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1. 03:11 AM - Re: Re: Marquart Charger (Jack)
2. 06:54 AM - Re: Marquart Charger (Jim Markle)
3. 07:19 AM - Re: old aviation footage (KMHeide, BA, CPO, FAAOP)
4. 07:19 AM - Re: popsicle/craft sticks to glue TE on (KMHeide, BA, CPO, FAAOP)
5. 07:22 AM - old aviation footage (Oscar Zuniga)
6. 07:23 AM - starter for no-electrics engines (Oscar Zuniga)
7. 07:23 AM - Re: Re: popsicle/craft sticks to glue TE on (amsafetyc@aol.com)
8. 07:47 AM - Re: Re: popsicle/craft sticks to glue TE on (Matt Redmond)
9. 08:47 AM - Re: Marquart Charger (John Hofmann)
10. 08:48 AM - Falling soon, out of a sky near you! (Ryan Mueller)
11. 09:18 AM - Re: Marquart Charger (Jack Phillips)
12. 09:18 AM - Re: Falling soon, out of a sky near you! (Jack Phillips)
13. 10:19 AM - Re: Marquart Charger (Michael McGowan)
14. 10:32 AM - Re: Marquart Charger (Doug Dever)
15. 12:50 PM - off subject-- Rust Buster (Tim Willis)
16. 04:05 PM - Re: starter for no-electrics engines (Gene & Tammy)
17. 04:44 PM - gap seal (airlion)
18. 04:44 PM - Re: off subject-- Rust Buster (Gene & Tammy)
19. 06:08 PM - Re: starter for no-electrics engines (Ozarkflyer)
20. 06:23 PM - Re: old aviation footage (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation])
21. 06:40 PM - Re: old aviation footage (K5YAC)
22. 07:16 PM - Re: old aviation footage (Michael Silvius)
23. 07:55 PM - Out Fox The Fox (Pieti Lowell)
24. 09:11 PM - Re: Out Fox The Fox (amsafetyc@aol.com)
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| Subject: | Re: Marquart Charger |
Really good quality. I'm PC based with an iPhone. PC's just don't seem to
be video and editing friendly.thanks!
Jack Textor
29 SW 58th Drive
Des Moines, IA 50312
www.textors.com
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Hofmann
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 7:56 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Marquart Charger
Hey Jack,
I ran the bits through iMovie and uploaded it to my mobile me account. It
was easy. Contact me offline if you want more detail.
do not archive
-john-
John Hofmann
Vice-President, Information Technology
The Rees Group, Inc.
2810 Crossroads Drive, Ste 3800
Madison, WI 53718
Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150
Fax: 608.443.2474
Email: jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com
On Sep 17, 2009, at 4:37 PM, Jack wrote:
John,
Great thanks for sharing! You have to show me how to share vids from
iPhone.
Jack
Www.textors.com <http://Www.textors.com/>
Sent from my iPhone
On Sep 17, 2009, at 11:18, John Hofmann <jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com> wrote:
>From Pat Panzera's Experimenter Online mag. Thanks Pat. You are doing a
great job.
<http://www.eaa.org/video/eaa.html?videoId=40274896001>
http://www.eaa.org/video/eaa.html?videoId=40274896001
The link is to the video of Mark Gilmore's, Gold Lindy, Marquart Charger. I
have known Mark since 1990 and shared a hangar with him in Anderson, Indiana
for about five years. Those of us who have been around this project for the
past 20 years new (if it ever got done) it would be something special. It
is. Some may have seen it at Brodhead for the Piet flyin. He staged there.
Mark was back for Grassroots last weekend and hopped a few rides. When I
talked with him back in July he was telling me how he flew circles, working
his way to the edge of his flight test box and when his time hit 25 hours he
headed up towards Brodhead.
Also, here is a link to a bad iPhone video I took last weekend at Brodhead
of the Autogyro and my Beech 18 ride with Steve Thomas. 110 GPH on takeoff!
<http://gallery.me.com/johnnyskyrocket#100012>
http://gallery.me.com/johnnyskyrocket#100012
-john-
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| Subject: | Re: Marquart Charger |
That video is awesome. I gotta ask though, is that someone you know sitting in
the rear seat on the Beech ride? If so, next time you talk to them please ask
how the heck someone takes THAT ride WITHOUT a huge smile on their face????
That was neat, thanks for sharing.
thanks
-----Original Message-----
From: John Hofmann
Sent: Sep 17, 2009 8:55 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Marquart Charger
Hey Jack,
I ran the bits through iMovie and uploaded it to my mobile me account. It was easy.
Contact me offline if you want more detail.
do not archive
-john-
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| Subject: | Re: old aviation footage |
Just remember the rudder will be a "little" touchier, but not a lot, so don
't panic and over control the dam thing.
-
Village idiot
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--- On Thu, 9/17/09, Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]
<michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov> wrote:
From: Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation] <michael.d.cuy
@nasa.gov>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: old aviation footage
>Mikeee- did you notice near the end, when the guy is
>thinking back to his experience flying single-engine
>fighters, one of them is just like your "flying bicycle"?
Ah yes-- that was great footage.---Here's my recreation of that flyin
g bike
with the Roman Candle pack of motors on the tail for propulsion.
My wife and I rode this around the airport ramp when I finished it but the
weight of the wings makes turns really difficult so you keep your turns ver
y
wide, very shallow.- - No, we never did liftoff.---I was over gro
ss mostly likely
and we never lit the fake rocket motors that I made with Quarter Paper mone
y rolls
and yellow string to look like wicks to light.
Fun project.
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| Subject: | Re: popsicle/craft sticks to glue TE on |
Try Harbor Freight... bought many boxes for mixing glues.
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--- On Thu, 9/17/09, Gene Rambo <generambo@msn.com> wrote:
From: Gene Rambo <generambo@msn.com>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: popsicle/craft sticks to glue TE on
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I went today to the craft store thinking I could buy a batch of the wider (
3/4"?) popsicle sticks.- All they had was the 3/8" ones, which I already
have.- Maybe the wider ones are medical??- Anyway, I will check a coupl
e of other places before I start hanging around the doctor's office.- (my
next door neighbor is a doctor, so could probably get from her anyway)
-
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 12:49 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: popsicle/craft sticks to glue TE on
Gene-I like that idea very much.-- I too simply sanded the edges/bevele
d them at each end and by the time the covering
and edge tapes go on- with paint and all they really don't look bad at al
l.---- I think you'll be pleased with the appearance of
the approach you're using. -(and integrity of the bond using that materia
l.)-
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| Subject: | old aviation footage |
Mikeee-
Just curious; what airfoil did you use for the flying bike?
Is that the Eiffel, Pietenpol, Riblett, or a NACA selection?
;o)
Oscar Zuniga
Air Camper NX41CC
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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| Subject: | starter for no-electrics engines |
This may already have come up in discussion here so if it
has, I apologize in advance but I'm
always behind on my reading so I'm just now getting around
to reading my Sport Aviation with the Tailwind on the cover.
Probably from March or April. Anyway, there is a short
article on a really nifty starter that uses a cordless
drill driving a ring gear that bolts to the prop hub
before the prop goes on. It's for older Continentals like
the A65s that so many of us have (as well as other engines
and airplanes with no electrics or provision for starters).
A T-handle pull cable
from the cockpit engages the drive gear from the drill at
the same time that the trigger is pulled, and a Bendix
arrangement keeps the drive from breaking if the engine
kicks back.
Has anyone seen one of these or actually tried one? They
are STC'ing the setup and it is supposed to sell for something
like $1500 plus another $800 for installation (or some
amount like that). I thought it was very clever.
Oscar Zuniga
Air Camper NX41CC
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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| Subject: | Re: popsicle/craft sticks to glue TE on |
I got my sticks and mix cups at quiznos. They were free for the asking!
John
------Original Message------
From: Mark Chunard
Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
ReplyTo: Pietenpol builders Board
Sent: Sep 17, 2009 9:19 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: popsicle/craft sticks to glue TE on
I got mine at Aircraft Spruce (please don't boo me)... 3/4" x 6", box of 500, $10.75.
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/cmpages/mixingsticks.php
These may actually be cheaper than anything that might be packaged for "medical"
use. You certainly don't want to pay for sterile type depressors, just the
unsealed, loosely packaged craft type should do.
--------
Mark - working on wings
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=263614#263614
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
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| Subject: | Re: popsicle/craft sticks to glue TE on |
I they sell these things in bulk at artsy-craftsy stores like Michael's and
Hobby Lobby. Anyone remeber the lamps and other crap people used to make
with 'em in the 70s?
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 8:19 PM, K5YAC <hangar10@cox.net> wrote:
>
> I got mine at Aircraft Spruce (please don't boo me)... 3/4" x 6", box of
> 500, $10.75.
>
> http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/cmpages/mixingsticks.php
>
> These may actually be cheaper than anything that might be packaged for
> "medical" use. You certainly don't want to pay for sterile type depressors,
> just the unsealed, loosely packaged craft type should do.
>
> --------
> Mark - working on wings
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=263614#263614
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Marquart Charger |
Yes, that is Jeff Moore from Anderson, Indiana. He flew his Hatz up to
Brodhead with his daughter (she was in the seat next to me). He has a
black and yellow Hatz that is always at the flyin before Oshkosh. Next
to Jeff was Diane Gilmore, wife of Mark (Charger builder). I think we
were both in shock at the fuel flow. Fritz Badertscher was in the
right seat. Fritz is a diary farmer a couple of miles away and was one
of the Brodhead Airport founders. His hangar was the first one on the
airport (legend says). Everyone who has been to Brodhead knows of his
plane. Fritz has the red Cub that lives in the open tee hangar next to
the pavilion. I like Fritz. He is properly sized, like me. In fact he
makes me look tall. Steve Thomas was in the left seat. He and his wife
Tina own the Poplar Grove operation.
Do not arcive.
John Hofmann
Vice-President, Information Technology
The Rees Group, Inc.
2810 Crossroads Drive, Ste 3800
Madison, WI 53718
Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150
Fax: 608.443.2474
Email: jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com
On Sep 18, 2009, at 8:15 AM, Jim Markle wrote:
> >
>
> That video is awesome. I gotta ask though, is that someone you know
> sitting in the rear seat on the Beech ride? If so, next time you
> talk to them please ask how the heck someone takes THAT ride WITHOUT
> a huge smile on their face????
>
> That was neat, thanks for sharing.
>
> thanks
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: John Hofmann
> Sent: Sep 17, 2009 8:55 PM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Marquart Charger
>
> Hey Jack,
> I ran the bits through iMovie and uploaded it to my mobile me
> account. It was easy. Contact me offline if you want more detail.
> do not archive
> -john-
>
>
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| Subject: | Falling soon, out of a sky near you! |
http://www.aero-news.net/index.cfm?ContentBlockID=02eb787b-7b54-46c5-86d8-0f18e4b1b85c&#d
I was just thinking the other day:
Man, the Piet will be nice, but what I really want to do is spend over
$100,000 on a 'Made in China' 21st century spam can with a penchant for
unrecoverable spins. Thank you Cessna!
Ryan
do not archive
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| Subject: | Marquart Charger |
Talking about the fuel flow in the Beech 18 reminds me of the time when I
was a young line boy at the airport, back in the 60's. A DC-3 came in for
fuel, and as I was up on the wing refueling it, the pilot asked me to check
the oil in the right engine. I found the door on the nacelle and unscrewed
the dipstick. There was a mark labelled "24" and one at 22, and the oil
level was right in between them. I yelled down to the pilot "You've got 23
quarts."
He said "Quarts? You mean gallons. Goa ahead and put another gallon in
it." Thus it is in the world of radial engines.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Hofmann
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 11:32 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Marquart Charger
Yes, that is Jeff Moore from Anderson, Indiana. He flew his Hatz up to
Brodhead with his daughter (she was in the seat next to me). He has a black
and yellow Hatz that is always at the flyin before Oshkosh. Next to Jeff was
Diane Gilmore, wife of Mark (Charger builder). I think we were both in shock
at the fuel flow. Fritz Badertscher was in the right seat. Fritz is a diary
farmer a couple of miles away and was one of the Brodhead Airport founders.
His hangar was the first one on the airport (legend says). Everyone who has
been to Brodhead knows of his plane. Fritz has the red Cub that lives in the
open tee hangar next to the pavilion. I like Fritz. He is properly sized,
like me. In fact he makes me look tall. Steve Thomas was in the left seat.
He and his wife Tina own the Poplar Grove operation.
Do not arcive.
John Hofmann
Vice-President, Information Technology
The Rees Group, Inc.
2810 Crossroads Drive, Ste 3800
Madison, WI 53718
Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150
Fax: 608.443.2474
Email: jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com
On Sep 18, 2009, at 8:15 AM, Jim Markle wrote:
That video is awesome. I gotta ask though, is that someone you know sitting
in the rear seat on the Beech ride? If so, next time you talk to them
please ask how the heck someone takes THAT ride WITHOUT a huge smile on
their face????
That was neat, thanks for sharing.
thanks
-----Original Message-----
From: John Hofmann
Sent: Sep 17, 2009 8:55 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Marquart Charger
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| Subject: | Falling soon, out of a sky near you! |
At least it has a Continental engine.
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Mueller
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 11:43 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Falling soon, out of a sky near you!
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I was just thinking the other day:
Man, the Piet will be nice, but what I really want to do is spend over
$100,000 on a 'Made in China' 21st century spam can with a penchant for
unrecoverable spins. Thank you Cessna!
Ryan
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Marquart Charger |
I'm an old DC-6 engineer we planned on 100 gallons of gas and 1 gallon
of oil per hour per engine. The oil dipstick was in 5 gal increments. If
you didn't need at least 10 gal of oil per engine you didn't bother
putting oil in. By the way the take off power was 59.5 inches at 2800
rpm with a fuel flow of 300 gal/hr per engine. The Connie in Kansas City
burns more than that and holds 7020 gallons if you fill it up and that's
without the center section tank. Mike McGowan
----- Original Message -----
From: Jack Phillips
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 11:02 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Marquart Charger
Talking about the fuel flow in the Beech 18 reminds me of the time
when I was a young line boy at the airport, back in the 60's. A DC-3
came in for fuel, and as I was up on the wing refueling it, the pilot
asked me to check the oil in the right engine. I found the door on the
nacelle and unscrewed the dipstick. There was a mark labelled "24" and
one at 22, and the oil level was right in between them. I yelled down
to the pilot "You've got 23 quarts."
He said "Quarts? You mean gallons. Goa ahead and put another gallon
in it." Thus it is in the world of radial engines.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John
Hofmann
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 11:32 AM
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Marquart Charger
Yes, that is Jeff Moore from Anderson, Indiana. He flew his Hatz up to
Brodhead with his daughter (she was in the seat next to me). He has a
black and yellow Hatz that is always at the flyin before Oshkosh. Next
to Jeff was Diane Gilmore, wife of Mark (Charger builder). I think we
were both in shock at the fuel flow. Fritz Badertscher was in the right
seat. Fritz is a diary farmer a couple of miles away and was one of the
Brodhead Airport founders. His hangar was the first one on the airport
(legend says). Everyone who has been to Brodhead knows of his plane.
Fritz has the red Cub that lives in the open tee hangar next to the
pavilion. I like Fritz. He is properly sized, like me. In fact he makes
me look tall. Steve Thomas was in the left seat. He and his wife Tina
own the Poplar Grove operation.
Do not arcive.
John Hofmann
Vice-President, Information Technology
The Rees Group, Inc.
2810 Crossroads Drive, Ste 3800
Madison, WI 53718
Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150
Fax: 608.443.2474
Email: jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com
On Sep 18, 2009, at 8:15 AM, Jim Markle wrote:
<jim_markle@mindspring.com>
That video is awesome. I gotta ask though, is that someone you know
sitting in the rear seat on the Beech ride? If so, next time you talk
to them please ask how the heck someone takes THAT ride WITHOUT a huge
smile on their face????
That was neat, thanks for sharing.
thanks
-----Original Message-----
From: John Hofmann
Sent: Sep 17, 2009 8:55 PM
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Marquart Charger
Hey Jack,
I ran the bits through iMovie and uploaded it to my mobile me account.
It was easy. Contact me offline if you want more detail.
do not
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| Subject: | Marquart Charger |
Jack=2C
Had a similar experience when I got a little time in an AT-6 with Dick Schw
ab. People in NE ohio might remember him. When doing the preflight and ch
ecking the oil I asked how much should be in there? He said 8-10. I said q
uarts? he said no=2C gallons.
On another note when we got in and took off he told me to help him watch fo
r traffic as he had promised a fly by. When he asked if I was ready I look
ed down at the airport. We were only about 1/2 mile from the end of the ru
nway and at 200agl. I said sure. He pointed the thing down at about 50deg
and when we went screaming past the terminal bldg we were doing 260mph (we
ll past redline). I asked him if the a.s. indicator was accurate. he said
not to worry as they used to dive them to 320 all the time during WWII!
He let me fly it all the back to Kent. On of the most exciting flights I'v
e had. Unless you count the engine failure and 2 inflight fires and the ro
ck I hit on floats at about 25kts. But=2C that's not the knid of excitemen
t I like=3B-)
Doug Dever
In beautiful Stow Ohio
From: pietflyr@bellsouth.net
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Marquart Charger
Talking about the fuel flow in the Beech 18 reminds me of the time when I w
as a young line boy at the airport=2C back in the 60=92s. A DC-3 came in f
or fuel=2C and as I was up on the wing refueling it=2C the pilot asked me t
o check the oil in the right engine. I found the door on the nacelle and u
nscrewed the dipstick. There was a mark labelled =9324=94 and one at 22=2C
and the oil level was right in between them. I yelled down to the pilot
=93You=92ve got 23 quarts.=94
He said =93Quarts? You mean gallons. Goa ahead and put another gallon in
it.=94 Thus it is in the world of radial engines.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-lis
t-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Hofmann
Sent: Friday=2C September 18=2C 2009 11:32 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Marquart Charger
Yes=2C that is Jeff Moore from Anderson=2C Indiana. He flew his Hatz up to
Brodhead with his daughter (she was in the seat next to me). He has a black
and yellow Hatz that is always at the flyin before Oshkosh. Next to Jeff w
as Diane Gilmore=2C wife of Mark (Charger builder). I think we were both in
shock at the fuel flow. Fritz Badertscher was in the right seat. Fritz is
a diary farmer a couple of miles away and was one of the Brodhead Airport f
ounders. His hangar was the first one on the airport (legend says). Everyon
e who has been to Brodhead knows of his plane. Fritz has the red Cub that l
ives in the open tee hangar next to the pavilion. I like Fritz. He is prope
rly sized=2C like me. In fact he makes me look tall. Steve Thomas was in th
e left seat. He and his wife Tina own the Poplar Grove operation.
Do not arcive.
John Hofmann
Vice-President=2C Information Technology
The Rees Group=2C Inc.
2810 Crossroads Drive=2C Ste 3800
Madison=2C WI 53718
Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150
Fax: 608.443.2474
Email: jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com
On Sep 18=2C 2009=2C at 8:15 AM=2C Jim Markle wrote:
>
That video is awesome. I gotta ask though=2C is that someone you know sitt
ing in the rear seat on the Beech ride? If so=2C next time you talk to the
m please ask how the heck someone takes THAT ride WITHOUT a huge smile on t
heir face????
That was neat=2C thanks for sharing.
thanks
-----Original Message-----
From: John Hofmann
Sent: Sep 17=2C 2009 8:55 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Marquart Charger
Hey Jack=2C
I ran the bits through iMovie and uploaded it to my mobile me account. It w
as easy. Contact me offline if you want more detail.
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| Subject: | off subject-- Rust Buster |
Those of us tearing down Corvairs or A-65s may like this.
I got this note from two friends. The first attached the article from "Turning
Wheels." The second attached a plug for Kroil, with which he has had excellent
user experience. I have none with that product. I like the acetone-ATF mix,
as well, since both are in the garage.
Tim in central TX
======================
THE BEST RUST PENETRANT?
>From Turning Wheels, August 2009, Published by the Studebaker Drivers Club
Most hobbyists have their own favorite rust-busting penetrant for loosening rusty
fasteners. Its difficult to compare products Its difficult to compare products
because
rusted parts are likely to vary as to severity of seizure.
Nonetheless, Advisor Jim Pepper forwarded results from a study undertaken by
Machinists Workshop magazine for their April 2007 issue. Therein, they tested
various penetrants for break-away torque on nuts that had been scientifically rusted
(whatever that means).
We must assume they made every attempt to insure that the nuts were equally seized
due
to rust. Its too bad they did not specify how long they allowed each product to
soak
before conducting the test. While all probably soaked the same length of time,
perhaps
some products would be more effective with a longer soak time.
Heres what they found; the torque required to remove comparable nuts from a
scientifically-rusted constant. The ATF-Acetone mix was a 50/50 home brew of
automatic transmission fluid and acetone. Note the home brew being better than
any
commercial product, at least in this particular test.
PENETRANT AVERAGE TORQUE
None 516 pounds
WD-40 238 pounds
PB Blaster 214 pounds
Liquid Wrench 127 pounds
Kano Kroil 106 pounds
ATF-Acetone mix 53 pounds
Kroil (The Oil that Creeps) is used by the most accuracy-obsessed benchrest shooters
to keep their barrels clean. Kroil creeps below the fouling in your barrel,
allowing you to knock it out easily with a patch or brush. Kroil also displaces
moisture, dissolves and prevents rust and can even be used as a lubricant.
Size: 8 fl. oz.
Container: Metal Canister
Material: Liquid Solvent
Notes:
Noted for cleaning bores which are have been exposed to moly-coated bullets.
Removes carbon, lead and copper fouling
Unsticks frozen threads
Loosens stuck screws and bolts
Dissolves dried grease and oil
Displaces water
For best results when working with rusted or frozen gun parts, allow 24 hours
for Kroil to penetrate.
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| Subject: | Re: starter for no-electrics engines |
Why would anyone want one? Maybe it's just me, but hand proping my A 65 is
just part of flying an old open cockpit airplane. I love it all.
Gene in rainy Tennessee
N502R
----- Original Message -----
From: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 7:52 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: starter for no-electrics engines
>
>
> This may already have come up in discussion here so if it
> has, I apologize in advance but I'm
> always behind on my reading so I'm just now getting around
> to reading my Sport Aviation with the Tailwind on the cover.
> Probably from March or April. Anyway, there is a short
> article on a really nifty starter that uses a cordless
> drill driving a ring gear that bolts to the prop hub
> before the prop goes on. It's for older Continentals like
> the A65s that so many of us have (as well as other engines
> and airplanes with no electrics or provision for starters).
> A T-handle pull cable
> from the cockpit engages the drive gear from the drill at
> the same time that the trigger is pulled, and a Bendix
> arrangement keeps the drive from breaking if the engine
> kicks back.
>
> Has anyone seen one of these or actually tried one? They
> are STC'ing the setup and it is supposed to sell for something
> like $1500 plus another $800 for installation (or some
> amount like that). I thought it was very clever.
>
> Oscar Zuniga
> Air Camper NX41CC
> San Antonio, TX
> mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
> website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
>
>
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To Jack phillips. Jack, on your elevator gap seal did you put duck tape on the
top or bottom or both sides? Also, did you gap seal the verticle stab. and rudder
too? Cheers, Gardiner Mason
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| Subject: | Re: off subject-- Rust Buster |
Thanks Tim, for the heads up. Had not heard of the acetone-AFT mix, but you
can bet I'll give it a try. I worked a lot of years in the Arctic and
around salt water and we found Kroil worked the best and always carried a
can on any of my boats.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Willis" <timothywillis@earthlink.net>
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 2:46 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: off subject-- Rust Buster
> <timothywillis@earthlink.net>
>
> Those of us tearing down Corvairs or A-65s may like this.
>
> I got this note from two friends. The first attached the article from
> "Turning Wheels." The second attached a plug for Kroil, with which he has
> had excellent user experience. I have none with that product. I like the
> acetone-ATF mix, as well, since both are in the garage.
>
> Tim in central TX
> ======================
>
>
> THE BEST RUST PENETRANT?
>
>>From Turning Wheels, August 2009, Published by the Studebaker Drivers
>>Club
>
> Most hobbyists have their own favorite rust-busting penetrant for
> loosening rusty
>
> fasteners. Its difficult to compare products Its difficult to compare
> products because
>
> rusted parts are likely to vary as to severity of seizure.
>
> Nonetheless, Advisor Jim Pepper forwarded results from a study undertaken
> by
>
> Machinists Workshop magazine for their April 2007 issue. Therein, they
> tested
>
> various penetrants for break-away torque on nuts that had been
> scientifically rusted
>
> (whatever that means).
>
> We must assume they made every attempt to insure that the nuts were
> equally seized due
>
> to rust. Its too bad they did not specify how long they allowed each
> product to soak
>
> before conducting the test. While all probably soaked the same length of
> time, perhaps
>
> some products would be more effective with a longer soak time.
>
> Heres what they found; the torque required to remove comparable nuts from
> a
>
> scientifically-rusted constant. The ATF-Acetone mix was a 50/50 home
> brew of
>
> automatic transmission fluid and acetone. Note the home brew being better
> than any
>
> commercial product, at least in this particular test.
>
> PENETRANT AVERAGE TORQUE
>
> None 516 pounds
>
> WD-40 238 pounds
>
> PB Blaster 214 pounds
>
> Liquid Wrench 127 pounds
>
> Kano Kroil 106 pounds
>
> ATF-Acetone mix 53 pounds
>
> Kroil (The Oil that Creeps) is used by the most accuracy-obsessed
> benchrest shooters to keep their barrels clean. Kroil creeps below the
> fouling in your barrel, allowing you to knock it out easily with a patch
> or brush. Kroil also displaces moisture, dissolves and prevents rust and
> can even be used as a lubricant.
>
> Size: 8 fl. oz.
> Container: Metal Canister
> Material: Liquid Solvent
>
> Notes:
>
> Noted for cleaning bores which are have been exposed to moly-coated
> bullets.
>
> Removes carbon, lead and copper fouling
>
> Unsticks frozen threads
>
> Loosens stuck screws and bolts
>
> Dissolves dried grease and oil
>
> Displaces water
>
> For best results when working with rusted or frozen gun parts, allow 24
> hours for Kroil to penetrate.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: starter for no-electrics engines |
I saw one on a Taylorcraft a week or so ago in Batesville, AR. The guy I rent
a 150 from put one on for somebody and when he told me about it I just had to
see it. If I go over next week I'll try and get a picture of it. It turned the
engine over for a test spin but you could tell it was laboring.
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| Subject: | old aviation footage |
Just curious; what airfoil did you use for the flying bike?
Is that the Eiffel, Pietenpol, Riblett, or a NACA selection?
Dear Oscar,
I used the TLAFR method for determining my bike airfoil section from photos my
wife took of the Aerocycle at The
Old Rhinebeck Aerodrome were they actually light the Roman Candles on the back
of the bike and the rider rides at
full speed over a little hill across the runway to a display of huge black powder
blasts and comes out holding nothing
but a bent up bicycle rim. Hope this helps.
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: old aviation footage |
That thing is awesome! Looks like something Emmett Brown might have used. Flux
capacitor... fluxing!
--------
Mark - working on wings
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| Subject: | Re: old aviation footage |
Michael Cuy:
Next time whimsical inspiration overwhelms, you may consider adding one of
these to your inventory. .
http://www.ohtm.org/demenjoz.html
The specimen is located at the Owls Head Transportation Museum in
Thomaston/Rockland Maine.
http://www.ohtm.org/
Michael in Maine
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Hi Gang.
Well- the check ride is over, and here is a general summery.
With an early morning appointment on a perfect day. Temps around the mid 50's Mr
FAA comes to work in jeans and a short sleeve shirt. We pushed the hot J3 out
of the hanger and after a long check-out, I ask if he would want the doors open
or closed. Reply." Your discretion ." , I selected, open. I was wearing a
jacket. He said that I select the runway and he will instruct maneuvers to be
done.
We took off and went to 3000 Ft. Temps were in the 40's, a couple clearance turns
and 360's to the right and left but steeper. one power off stall, and one accelerated
at my discretion.
His next words were." Lets shoot a few landings" The word "discretion" came up
many times. Runway selection etc.
He kept me closer and closer to the airport, until between side-slips and power
approaches to hit a spot he insisted I hit.
The last landing, I told him that it will be exactly as I did on 36L, at 12" off
the turf I dropped the J3 in with a mild quick stall.
The next thing I heard "Lets go in and talk about things." as he rubbed his arms
to bring a bit of warmth into circulation.
In a later discussion he mentioned that a rebound from a small bounce may have
lightened the gears enough to allow the side movement that I had. But a picture
shows what a thousand words cannot cannot express.
The next hour I asked how his great adventures in the CO mountains went and what
his greatest fears were. The Cougar was his answer, and it was a piece of cake
from there on.
Pieti Lowell
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| Subject: | Re: Out Fox The Fox |
Glad to hear it went well. Sounds like you were much better prepared than Mr FAA
which is always a good thing.
The trouble with the FAA is over now, Mr Brown?
John
------Original Message------
From: Pieti Lowell
Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
ReplyTo: Pietenpol builders Board
Sent: Sep 18, 2009 10:55 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Out Fox The Fox
Hi Gang.
Well- the check ride is over, and here is a general summery.
With an early morning appointment on a perfect day. Temps around the mid 50's Mr
FAA comes to work in jeans and a short sleeve shirt. We pushed the hot J3 out
of the hanger and after a long check-out, I ask if he would want the doors open
or closed. Reply." Your discretion ." , I selected, open. I was wearing a
jacket. He said that I select the runway and he will instruct maneuvers to be
done.
We took off and went to 3000 Ft. Temps were in the 40's, a couple clearance turns
and 360's to the right and left but steeper. one power off stall, and one accelerated
at my discretion.
His next words were." Lets shoot a few landings" The word "discretion" came up
many times. Runway selection etc.
He kept me closer and closer to the airport, until between side-slips and power
approaches to hit a spot he insisted I hit.
The last landing, I told him that it will be exactly as I did on 36L, at 12" off
the turf I dropped the J3 in with a mild quick stall.
The next thing I heard "Lets go in and talk about things." as he rubbed his arms
to bring a bit of warmth into circulation.
In a later discussion he mentioned that a rebound from a small bounce may have
lightened the gears enough to allow the side movement that I had. But a picture
shows what a thousand words cannot cannot express.
The next hour I asked how his great adventures in the CO mountains went and what
his greatest fears were. The Cougar was his answer, and it was a piece of cake
from there on.
Pieti Lowell
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=263771#263771
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