Today's Message Index:
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1. 03:39 AM - Re: straight axle bungees (Robert Ray)
2. 04:42 AM - bungee/springs (Douwe Blumberg)
3. 05:04 AM - Re: hickory wood-skinny legs (Gary Boothe)
4. 05:11 AM - Re: hickory wood-skinny legs (Ryan Mueller)
5. 05:24 AM - Re: hickory wood-skinny legs (Gary Boothe)
6. 05:27 AM - Re: straight axle bungees (wizzard187@aol.com)
7. 05:52 AM - Western Piets availabele next week? (AMsafetyC@aol.com)
8. 06:07 AM - Re: 3-piece wing fairing attach method (Gary Boothe)
9. 06:25 AM - Re: hickory wood (TOM STINEMETZE)
10. 07:24 AM - Sort of Piet related (jeremy bramall)
11. 07:42 AM - Re: hickory wood-skinny legs ()
12. 07:48 AM - Re: Sort of Piet related (AMsafetyC@aol.com)
13. 08:03 AM - Re: hickory wood-skinny legs (Gary Boothe)
14. 08:46 AM - Re: hickory wood-skinny legs (Ryan Mueller)
15. 08:48 AM - Re: hickory wood-skinny legs (Jim Markle)
16. 09:34 AM - hickory wood- skinny legs (Oscar Zuniga)
17. 09:35 AM - Re: hickory wood-skinny legs (Gary Boothe)
18. 09:47 AM - Re: Sort of Piet related (Gary Boothe)
19. 10:20 AM - Re: hickory wood-skinny legs (Jim Markle)
20. 10:41 AM - Re: hickory wood-skinny legs (Bill Church)
21. 10:55 AM - Re: hickory wood-skinny legs (Jim Markle)
22. 12:09 PM - Re: Spring Gear (Bill Church)
23. 12:55 PM - the "do not archive" option (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation])
24. 01:22 PM - Re: Western Piets availabele next week? (Jim)
25. 01:22 PM - Re: Re: hickory wood-skinny legs (Jim)
26. 01:31 PM - Re: Western Piets availabele next week? (AMsafetyC@aol.com)
27. 03:39 PM - Re: the "do not archive" option (Dave and Connie)
28. 03:56 PM - Re: Western Piets availabele next week? (Gary Boothe)
29. 04:22 PM - Re: the "do not archive" option (Ryan Mueller)
30. 05:04 PM - Re: Re: Western Piets availabele next week? (Jim)
31. 05:17 PM - Re: Re: Western Piets availabele next week? (Gary Boothe)
32. 05:38 PM - Re: Re: hickory wood-skinny legs (Gary Boothe)
33. 09:12 PM - Re: Re: hickory wood-skinny legs (Jim Markle)
34. 10:02 PM - Re: Re: hickory wood-skinny legs (Ryan Mueller)
35. 11:06 PM - Re: Re: hickory wood-skinny legs ()
36. 11:22 PM - Re: Re: hickory wood-skinny legs ()
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| Subject: | Re: straight axle bungees |
Also by the end of the war they weren't putting rubber tires on there
fighters,
they were steaming wood and making tires out of wood.
Russell
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 9:03 AM, Bill Church <eng@canadianrogers.com> wrote:
> eng@canadianrogers.com>
>
> Douwe,
> Do you mean the springs were used as bungees? Long springs wrapped in
> the same manner as bungees?
> I would imagine that set-up would have its own bunch of problems, even
> more troublesome than the rubber bungees.
> I think the springs would become entangled as they were stretched,
> side-by-side, and jostled around, ending up with a tangled mess.
> And springs break too - not just bungees.
> Do you have one of those photos to share? Just curious as to what it
> looked like.
>
> Bill C.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Douwe
> Blumberg
> Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 5:11 AM
> To: pietenpolgroup
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: straight axle bungees
>
> --> <douweblumberg@earthlink.net>
>
> The other day I came across some photos of WWI german airplanes where
> the landing gear bungees had been replaced with long coil springs
> wrapped around the axle in a similar manner. I am assuming this
> expedient was due to their rubber shortage, but it set me thinking...
>
> Though heavier, I wonder if it would work. Over the years, I've heard
> of two incidents with straight axle gears due to broken bungees.
> Stainless steel springs can be had which would virtually eliminate worry
> over aging bungees and the headache of replacing them every so often.
>
> I wonder how much heavier it would be.
>
> Douwe
>
>
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I don't have the photo, but they used long springs and wrapped the axle
exactly like a bungee.
D
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| Subject: | hickory wood-skinny legs |
Ryan,
Now, that's simply not true! Why, just the other day, I was searching the
archives for a correlation between my love of hickory and women with skinny
legs. Lo and behold, there was Russell's entry, confirming that, at least on
one point, someone out there agrees with me.(on the skinny legs part).
I will say, though, that I am as guilty as anyone of forgetting to add, from
time to time, "Do not archive."
Gary Boothe
Cool, Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion, mounted
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
(15 ribs down.)
Definitely, DO NOT ARCHIVE
_____
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Mueller
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 8:11 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: hickory wood
Russell,
There is a feature on the Pietenpol list called the 'do not archive' tag.
I'm sure you have noticed some of list subscribers use it from time to time.
It allows your message to go out to the list and be seen and read by all,
but it does not store a copy of the message in the archive for posterity.
You use this for messages that have no need to be stored in the archives,
usually because they contain no useful information for people that go
searching in the archives for building hints, data, methods and practices,
etc. These may be messages welcoming someone to the list, giving
congratulations for achievements; all sorts of things.
I can, shall we say, guaran-damn-teed you that there is no one - absolutely
no one - who will be searching for information in the archives about wood
cabane struts that will gain anything from reading that you don't want no
skinny cabanes, but you like women with skinny legs. Not a soul. So if such
a message must be sent out, it would be the polite thing to do to just put
'do not archive' at the end of the message, to help out those folks down the
road who are looking for information in the always helpful Pietenpol list
archive. Just a suggestion. Thanks!
Ryan
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 9:16 PM, Robert Ray <rray032003@gmail.com> wrote:
I don't want no skinny cabanes no sir, how ever I like women with skinny
legs!
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 9:34 AM, Bill Church <eng@canadianrogers.com> wrote:
For the loads imposed on the cabane struts (only about 50 pounds or so,
each), ALMOST any type of wood would likely be sufficient. I wrote the
word "almost" in caps to avoid having anyone following up with wiseguy
suggestions like using spalted burls for the cabanes (well, that's what
I would probably do anyway).
Cabane struts made of Spruce can handle the loads - provided an adequate
cross-section is used, and the connection details are also properly
thought out.
Actually, the connection details are likely more important than the
species of wood used.
Substituting wood cabanes for the streamline steel shown in the plans is
a structural change, so of course, anyone proposing making a change like
this should either do the calculations themselves (if they are
qualified), or have them done by someone who is qualified. Don't mess
with it if you don't know what you're doing.
I don't have the info at my fingertips, but as I recall, if made of
4130, the cabanes could be as small as (maybe) 1/2" diameter tube (?) to
carry the loads imposed on them. But they would look stupid. Visually
they would not appear to be correct.
Bill C.
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| Subject: | Re: hickory wood-skinny legs |
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 7:00 AM, Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote:
> Ryan,
>
>
> Now, that=92s simply not true! Why, just the other day, I was searching t
he
> archives for a correlation between my love of hickory and women with skin
ny
> legs. Lo and behold, there was Russell=92s entry, confirming that, at lea
st on
> one point, someone out there agrees with me=85(on the skinny legs part).
>
>
And you died a little bit inside....it's ok...you can admit it. ;)
Ryan
do not archive
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| Subject: | hickory wood-skinny legs |
I'm over it now.
What concerns me today is that Piet builders Chris Tracy and Mike Weaver are
coming over to eat my food, drink my beer and steal my tools! I have
installed security cameras in my garage, but I cannot account for the
intellectual property they will take. Fortunately, there isn't much!
We will finish off the day on a positive note, though, with a visit to Bob
O'Hara's Piet, just a few miles away at the Georgetown airport.
Gary Boothe
Cool, Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion, mounted
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
(15 ribs down.)
Do not archive
_____
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Mueller
Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 5:11 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: hickory wood-skinny legs
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 7:00 AM, Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote:
Ryan,
Now, that's simply not true! Why, just the other day, I was searching the
archives for a correlation between my love of hickory and women with skinny
legs. Lo and behold, there was Russell's entry, confirming that, at least on
one point, someone out there agrees with me.(on the skinny legs part).
And you died a little bit inside....it's ok...you can admit it. ;)
Ryan
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: straight axle bungees |
Does anyone? have any experience in pressing new sleeve bushing?on? contintal connecting
rods?? I now heating rod and? freezing bushing.
-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Ray <rray032003@gmail.com>
Sent: Fri, Oct 9, 2009 5:34 am
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: straight axle bungees
Also by the end of the war they weren't putting rubber tires on there fighters,
they were steaming wood and making tires out of wood.
?
Russell
?
?
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 9:03 AM, Bill Church <eng@canadianrogers.com> wrote:
Douwe,
Do you mean the springs were used as bungees? Long springs wrapped in
the same manner as bungees?
I would imagine that set-up would have its own bunch of problems, even
more troublesome than the rubber bungees.
I think the springs would become entangled as they were stretched,
side-by-side, and jostled around, ending up with a tangled mess.
And springs break too - not just bungees.
Do you have one of those photos to share? Just curious as to what it
looked like.
Bill C.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Douwe
Blumberg
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 5:11 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: straight axle bungees
--> <douweblumberg@earthlink.net>
The other day I came across some photos of WWI german airplanes where
the landing gear bungees had been replaced with long coil springs
wrapped around the axle in a similar manner. ?I am assuming this
expedient was due to their rubber shortage, but it set me thinking...
Though heavier, I wonder if it would work. ?Over the years, I've heard
of two incidents with straight axle gears due to broken bungees.
Stainless steel springs can be had which would virtually eliminate worry
over aging bungees and the headache of replacing them every so often.
:
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| Subject: | Western Piets availabele next week? |
Going to Portland, Sacramento and Stockton next week looking for Piets,
second request got 2 reply's anyone else interested?
Lemme no
John
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| Subject: | 3-piece wing fairing attach method |
Charlie, Mike, Jack, Clif, (and anyone else I forgot)
Thanks for the replies on the wing fairings! 4 responses, and 4 different
methods.tells me that it's probably not that critical. I won't lose anymore
sleep over it.
Gary Boothe
Cool, Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion, mounted
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
(15 ribs down.)
Do not archive
_____
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Cuy, Michael
D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]
Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 11:08 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: 3-piece wing fairing attach method
Gary,
I glued little blocks of wood every 3-4" to the plywood-sheeted but rib ends
and
CC sheeted ribs with T-88 and then used small flathead wood screws thru my
aluminum
fairings to attach. Worked fine.
Mike C.
PS-I considered Velcro for a time but...decided against it.
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| Subject: | Re: hickory wood |
Oooooooo Oscar. You are such a poet!
Stinemetze in "no beaches here" Kansas.
do not archive
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| Subject: | Sort of Piet related |
I always wanted to have a drafting table in my office.- My dad has one in
his office, I should get to have one too right?- I thought of this table
last night.- The top is glass.- The base for the glass will be made fr
om wing ribs and some short spars.- I was thinking of adding the drag/ant
idrag wires inside the wing portion.- The stand will be made similar to a
fuselage.- I was thinking of adding a turtle deck to the back, and makin
g it all from poplar.
-
See what you think.- There is a poor drawing at the bottom of my webpage.
http://www.myaffordaplane.com/other_stuff- It could be a good use for th
ose extra wood and ribs you build that get culled in the end.
-
If you hover over the picture and click the magnifying glass. -It will ge
t a little bigger.
-
Jeremy Bramall
Dallas, TX
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| Subject: | Re: hickory wood-skinny legs |
Gary
It should be easy pickings as I'm betting you got halfway done with the
camera installation and moved on to other things. Be warned, we will be
counting those ribs just to make sure your not padding the numbers.
Chris
Sacramento, CA
WestCoastPiet.com
Do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Gary Boothe
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 5:20 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: hickory wood-skinny legs
I'm over it now.
What concerns me today is that Piet builders Chris Tracy and Mike
Weaver are coming over to eat my food, drink my beer and steal my tools!
I have installed security cameras in my garage, but I cannot account for
the intellectual property they will take. Fortunately, there isn't much!
We will finish off the day on a positive note, though, with a visit to
Bob O'Hara's Piet, just a few miles away at the Georgetown airport.
Gary Boothe
Cool, Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion, mounted
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
(15 ribs down.)
Do not archive
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ryan
Mueller
Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 5:11 AM
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: hickory wood-skinny legs
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 7:00 AM, Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net>
wrote:
Ryan,
Now, that's simply not true! Why, just the other day, I was searching
the archives for a correlation between my love of hickory and women with
skinny legs. Lo and behold, there was Russell's entry, confirming that,
at least on one point, someone out there agrees with me.(on the skinny
legs part).
And you died a little bit inside....it's ok...you can admit it. ;)
Ryan
do not archive
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comhttp://www.matronics.com/contribution
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| Subject: | Re: Sort of Piet related |
Really neat stuff, I like the table design. I guess I am not too far from
ya, I built a CJ7 for my son with the lift kit and plastic body, a 1973 MGB
for my wife, rebuilt a few bikes along the way for friends and a place for
my Daughter to live, an office and a Gelataria and a bunch of computers.
As far as the enlargement part well I'll have to give that one a try when
I get home, so far not much has really worked in that department plus they
frown on that stuff at work!
DO not archive
John
In a message dated 10/9/2009 10:24:40 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
outofthebox50@yahoo.com writes:
I always wanted to have a drafting table in my office. My dad has one in
his office, I should get to have one too right? I thought of this table
last night. The top is glass. The base for the glass will be made from wing
ribs and some short spars. I was thinking of adding the drag/antidrag
wires inside the wing portion. The stand will be made similar to a fuselage.
I was thinking of adding a turtle deck to the back, and making it all from
poplar.
See what you think. There is a poor drawing at the bottom of my webpage.
_http://www.myaffordaplane.com/other_stuff_
(http://www.myaffordaplane.com/other_stuff) It could be a good use for those extra wood and ribs you
build that get culled in the end.
If you hover over the picture and click the magnifying glass. It will get
a little bigger.
Jeremy Bramall
Dallas, TX
(http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List)
(http://www.matronics.com/contribution)
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| Subject: | hickory wood-skinny legs |
That was cruel & viscous! No soup for you!
Do not archive
_____
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
catdesigns@att.net
Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 7:31 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: hickory wood-skinny legs
Gary
It should be easy pickings as I'm betting you got halfway done with the
camera installation and moved on to other things. Be warned, we will be
counting those ribs just to make sure your not padding the numbers.
Chris
Sacramento, CA
WestCoastPiet.com
Do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Gary Boothe <mailto:gboothe5@comcast.net>
Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 5:20 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: hickory wood-skinny legs
I'm over it now.
What concerns me today is that Piet builders Chris Tracy and Mike Weaver are
coming over to eat my food, drink my beer and steal my tools! I have
installed security cameras in my garage, but I cannot account for the
intellectual property they will take. Fortunately, there isn't much!
We will finish off the day on a positive note, though, with a visit to Bob
O'Hara's Piet, just a few miles away at the Georgetown airport.
Gary Boothe
Cool, Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion, mounted
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
(15 ribs down.)
Do not archive
_____
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Mueller
Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 5:11 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: hickory wood-skinny legs
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 7:00 AM, Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote:
Ryan,
Now, that's simply not true! Why, just the other day, I was searching the
archives for a correlation between my love of hickory and women with skinny
legs. Lo and behold, there was Russell's entry, confirming that, at least on
one point, someone out there agrees with me.(on the skinny legs part).
And you died a little bit inside....it's ok...you can admit it. ;)
Ryan
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: hickory wood-skinny legs |
That's how it goes...one minute you're looking forward to a nice weekend,
next thing you know you are mired in gelatinous goo, having insults hurled
at you. ;)
No archiving for you!
do not archive
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 9:57 AM, Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote:
> That was cruel & viscous! No soup for you!
>
>
> Do not archive
>
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| Subject: | hickory wood-skinny legs |
Hey Gary, let me know if you need some help with this....
-----Original Message-----
>From: Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net>
>Sent: Oct 9, 2009 7:57 AM
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: hickory wood-skinny legs
>
>That was cruel & viscous! No soup for you!
>
>
>
>Do not archive
>
> _____
>
>From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
>catdesigns@att.net
>Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 7:31 AM
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: hickory wood-skinny legs
>
>
>
>Gary
>
>
>
>It should be easy pickings as I'm betting you got halfway done with the
>camera installation and moved on to other things. Be warned, we will be
>counting those ribs just to make sure your not padding the numbers.
>
>
>
>Chris
>Sacramento, CA
>WestCoastPiet.com
>
>
>
>Do not archive
>
>----- Original Message -----
>
>From: Gary Boothe <mailto:gboothe5@comcast.net>
>
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>
>Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 5:20 AM
>
>Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: hickory wood-skinny legs
>
>
>
>I'm over it now.
>
>
>
>What concerns me today is that Piet builders Chris Tracy and Mike Weaver are
>coming over to eat my food, drink my beer and steal my tools! I have
>installed security cameras in my garage, but I cannot account for the
>intellectual property they will take. Fortunately, there isn't much!
>
>
>
>We will finish off the day on a positive note, though, with a visit to Bob
>O'Hara's Piet, just a few miles away at the Georgetown airport.
>
>
>
>Gary Boothe
>
>Cool, Ca.
>
>Pietenpol
>
>WW Corvair Conversion, mounted
>
>Tail done, Fuselage on gear
>
>(15 ribs down.)
>
>Do not archive
>
>
> _____
>
>
>From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Mueller
>Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 5:11 AM
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: hickory wood-skinny legs
>
>
>
>On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 7:00 AM, Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>Ryan,
>
>
>
>Now, that's simply not true! Why, just the other day, I was searching the
>archives for a correlation between my love of hickory and women with skinny
>legs. Lo and behold, there was Russell's entry, confirming that, at least on
>one point, someone out there agrees with me.(on the skinny legs part).
>
>
>
>
>And you died a little bit inside....it's ok...you can admit it. ;)
>
>Ryan
>
>do not archive
>
>
>
>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
>http://forums.matronics.com
>http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>
>
>
>href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.matronic
>s.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
>href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
>href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | hickory wood- skinny legs |
Yeh... I made enough money selling cheap pulp romance
paperbacks that I could finally afford to buy my own
Piet.
Seriously, though, the airplane insprires flights of
fancy. That and a few glasses of red wine.
Meanwhile, I do want to mention that the latest edition
of the BPA Newsletter is a good one (and aren't they all?)
so if you aren't subscribed, it's a good old fashioned
read with pictures and everything.
Oscar Zuniga
Air Camper NX41CC
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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Jim,
You mean with the soup? Or the cameras? Or the intellectual property?
I'm not worried about the soup, 'cause he doesn't get any! The cameras,
maybe, Yes. But here's where I got them, on the intellectual property:
I used no common sense, good judgment or acceptable building
practices...just let them try to steal my ideas!
Gary Boothe
Cool, Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion, mounted
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
(15 ribs down.)
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Markle
Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 8:23 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: hickory wood-skinny legs
Hey Gary, let me know if you need some help with this....
-----Original Message-----
>From: Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net>
>Sent: Oct 9, 2009 7:57 AM
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: hickory wood-skinny legs
>
>That was cruel & viscous! No soup for you!
>
>
>
>Do not archive
>
> _____
>
>From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
>catdesigns@att.net
>Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 7:31 AM
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: hickory wood-skinny legs
>
>
>
>Gary
>
>
>
>It should be easy pickings as I'm betting you got halfway done with the
>camera installation and moved on to other things. Be warned, we will be
>counting those ribs just to make sure your not padding the numbers.
>
>
>
>Chris
>Sacramento, CA
>WestCoastPiet.com
>
>
>
>Do not archive
>
>----- Original Message -----
>
>From: Gary Boothe <mailto:gboothe5@comcast.net>
>
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>
>Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 5:20 AM
>
>Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: hickory wood-skinny legs
>
>
>
>I'm over it now.
>
>
>
>What concerns me today is that Piet builders Chris Tracy and Mike Weaver
are
>coming over to eat my food, drink my beer and steal my tools! I have
>installed security cameras in my garage, but I cannot account for the
>intellectual property they will take. Fortunately, there isn't much!
>
>
>
>We will finish off the day on a positive note, though, with a visit to Bob
>O'Hara's Piet, just a few miles away at the Georgetown airport.
>
>
>
>Gary Boothe
>
>Cool, Ca.
>
>Pietenpol
>
>WW Corvair Conversion, mounted
>
>Tail done, Fuselage on gear
>
>(15 ribs down.)
>
>Do not archive
>
>
> _____
>
>
>From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ryan
Mueller
>Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 5:11 AM
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: hickory wood-skinny legs
>
>
>
>On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 7:00 AM, Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>Ryan,
>
>
>
>Now, that's simply not true! Why, just the other day, I was searching the
>archives for a correlation between my love of hickory and women with skinny
>legs. Lo and behold, there was Russell's entry, confirming that, at least
on
>one point, someone out there agrees with me.(on the skinny legs part).
>
>
>
>
>And you died a little bit inside....it's ok...you can admit it. ;)
>
>Ryan
>
>do not archive
>
>
>
>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
>http://forums.matronics.com
>http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>
>
>
>href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.matroni
c
>s.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
>href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
>href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Sort of Piet related |
John,
You give a new meaning to the phrase, "Flying a desk!" Good luck, and I
definitely think you should build that!
Gary Boothe
Cool, Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion, mounted
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
(15 ribs down.)
Do not archive
_____
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
AMsafetyC@aol.com
Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 7:42 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Sort of Piet related
Really neat stuff, I like the table design. I guess I am not too far from
ya, I built a CJ7 for my son with the lift kit and plastic body, a 1973 MGB
for my wife, rebuilt a few bikes along the way for friends and a place for
my Daughter to live, an office and a Gelataria and a bunch of computers.
As far as the enlargement part well I'll have to give that one a try when I
get home, so far not much has really worked in that department plus they
frown on that stuff at work!
DO not archive
John
In a message dated 10/9/2009 10:24:40 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
outofthebox50@yahoo.com writes:
I always wanted to have a drafting table in my office. My dad has one in
his office, I should get to have one too right? I thought of this table
last night. The top is glass. The base for the glass will be made from
wing ribs and some short spars. I was thinking of adding the drag/antidrag
wires inside the wing portion. The stand will be made similar to a
fuselage. I was thinking of adding a turtle deck to the back, and making it
all from poplar.
See what you think. There is a poor drawing at the bottom of my webpage.
http://www.myaffordaplane.com/other_stuff It could be a good use for those
extra wood and ribs you build that get culled in the end.
If you hover over the picture and click the magnifying glass. It will get a
little bigger.
Jeremy Bramall
Dallas, TX
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| Subject: | hickory wood-skinny legs |
HA! My thoughts exactly.
Hey, there's nothing in my shop that I actually came up with so help yourself!
Even if I was smart enough to come up with a good idea, there are plenty out
there better than anything I could EVER come up with!
-----Original Message-----
>From: Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net>
>Sent: Oct 9, 2009 9:31 AM
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: hickory wood-skinny legs
>
>
>Jim,
>
>You mean with the soup? Or the cameras? Or the intellectual property?
>
>I'm not worried about the soup, 'cause he doesn't get any! The cameras,
>maybe, Yes. But here's where I got them, on the intellectual property:
>
>I used no common sense, good judgment or acceptable building
>practices...just let them try to steal my ideas!
>
>Gary Boothe
>Cool, Ca.
>Pietenpol
>WW Corvair Conversion, mounted
>Tail done, Fuselage on gear
>(15 ribs down.)
>Do not archive
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Markle
>Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 8:23 AM
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: hickory wood-skinny legs
>
>
>Hey Gary, let me know if you need some help with this....
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net>
>>Sent: Oct 9, 2009 7:57 AM
>>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>>Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: hickory wood-skinny legs
>>
>>That was cruel & viscous! No soup for you!
>>
>>
>>
>>Do not archive
>>
>> _____
>>
>>From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
>>[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
>>catdesigns@att.net
>>Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 7:31 AM
>>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>>Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: hickory wood-skinny legs
>>
>>
>>
>>Gary
>>
>>
>>
>>It should be easy pickings as I'm betting you got halfway done with the
>>camera installation and moved on to other things. Be warned, we will be
>>counting those ribs just to make sure your not padding the numbers.
>>
>>
>>
>>Chris
>>Sacramento, CA
>>WestCoastPiet.com
>>
>>
>>
>>Do not archive
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>
>>From: Gary Boothe <mailto:gboothe5@comcast.net>
>>
>>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>>
>>Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 5:20 AM
>>
>>Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: hickory wood-skinny legs
>>
>>
>>
>>I'm over it now.
>>
>>
>>
>>What concerns me today is that Piet builders Chris Tracy and Mike Weaver
>are
>>coming over to eat my food, drink my beer and steal my tools! I have
>>installed security cameras in my garage, but I cannot account for the
>>intellectual property they will take. Fortunately, there isn't much!
>>
>>
>>
>>We will finish off the day on a positive note, though, with a visit to Bob
>>O'Hara's Piet, just a few miles away at the Georgetown airport.
>>
>>
>>
>>Gary Boothe
>>
>>Cool, Ca.
>>
>>Pietenpol
>>
>>WW Corvair Conversion, mounted
>>
>>Tail done, Fuselage on gear
>>
>>(15 ribs down.)
>>
>>Do not archive
>>
>>
>> _____
>>
>>
>>From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
>>[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ryan
>Mueller
>>Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 5:11 AM
>>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>>Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: hickory wood-skinny legs
>>
>>
>>
>>On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 7:00 AM, Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>Ryan,
>>
>>
>>
>>Now, that's simply not true! Why, just the other day, I was searching the
>>archives for a correlation between my love of hickory and women with skinny
>>legs. Lo and behold, there was Russell's entry, confirming that, at least
>on
>>one point, someone out there agrees with me.(on the skinny legs part).
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>And you died a little bit inside....it's ok...you can admit it. ;)
>>
>>Ryan
>>
>>do not archive
>>
>>
>>
>>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
>>http://forums.matronics.com
>>http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>>
>>
>>
>>href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.matroni
>c
>>s.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
>>href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
>>href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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So Jim, you're saying that you were already thinking that Gary used no
common sense, good judgement or acceptable building practices.
(just stirring the pot on a Friday)
By the way, Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Markle
Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 1:00 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: hickory wood-skinny legs
--> <jim_markle@mindspring.com>
HA! My thoughts exactly.
-----Original Message-----
>From: Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net>
>Sent: Oct 9, 2009 9:31 AM
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: hickory wood-skinny legs
>
>--> <gboothe5@comcast.net>
>
>Jim,
>
>...
>I used no common sense, good judgment or acceptable building
>practices...
>
>Gary Boothe
>Cool, Ca.
>Pietenpol
>WW Corvair Conversion, mounted
>Tail done, Fuselage on gear
>(15 ribs down.)
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| Subject: | hickory wood-skinny legs |
hahahaha, that's great. Well, I wasn't going anywhere NEAR that thought but...I
like it! I think that will be my final answer....
I'm always amazed how I can type a message into an email and be thinking one thing.....
but go back a re read it and see a totally different message!
Thanks for the laugh!
-----Original Message-----
>From: Bill Church <eng@canadianrogers.com>
>Sent: Oct 9, 2009 1:37 PM
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: hickory wood-skinny legs
>
>
>So Jim, you're saying that you were already thinking that Gary used no
>common sense, good judgement or acceptable building practices.
>
>(just stirring the pot on a Friday)
>
>By the way, Do not archive
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim
>Markle
>Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 1:00 PM
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: hickory wood-skinny legs
>
>--> <jim_markle@mindspring.com>
>
>
>HA! My thoughts exactly.
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net>
>>Sent: Oct 9, 2009 9:31 AM
>>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>>Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: hickory wood-skinny legs
>>
>>--> <gboothe5@comcast.net>
>>
>>Jim,
>>
>>...
>>I used no common sense, good judgment or acceptable building
>>practices...
>>
>>Gary Boothe
>>Cool, Ca.
>>Pietenpol
>>WW Corvair Conversion, mounted
>>Tail done, Fuselage on gear
>>(15 ribs down.)
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Steve,
Looks like Ryan did my work for me.
Everything he wrote makes sense to me.
I believe the H-56L is just the new name for H-56. My guess is that the
L stands for Lamina. There was a corporate merger a few years ago, and
Anchor-lamina merged with Danly, to form Anchor-Danly. I think the L was
added to the end of any Lamina part numbers, to easily differentiate
between the Lamina springs and the Danly springs. So, it looks like
there's basically one source for die springs, whether you choose to go
with Lamina or Danly (which is the manufacturer of the springs used by
Hans, as sold by Aircraft Spruce). So, in short, I don't think there's
any signficant difference between the H-56 and the H-56L (except for the
paint job).
As far as I know, the H-56 Lamina springs have been used successfully
for some time for homebuilt aircraft landing gear applications.
One thing to keep in mind, regarding the loading is the geometrical
arrangement of the landing gear, with the springs being applied to
diagonal members. Another thing is the softness of the tires, as
mentioned by Oscar. For some reference, the Flybaby homebuilt relies
solely on the softness of the fat tires for shock absorption. The
Flybaby landing gear is rigid.
My guess is that Hans' set-up provides a bit stiffer suspension than the
H-56 springs, but that both are quite acceptable.
I would make the slot long enough to permit full compression of whatever
spring you choose to go with.
Good luck with your progress over the weekend.
Bill C.
________________________________
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ryan
Mueller
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 11:00 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Spring Gear
Steve,
You may want to check with a supplier or distributor of Lamina products,
but I think you may be looking at an outdated catalog. I believe Bill
pulled that page from the most recent catalog, dated May 20, 2008,
available from the Anchor Lamina website:
http://www.anchorlamina.com/pdf.d/DieMaxDieSprings.pdf
<http://www.anchorlamina.com/pdf.d/DieMaxDieSprings.pdf> The H56L spring
listed is the only spring shown in any of the current catalogs on the
Anchor Lamina site (that I can find) that is almost identical to the
H-56 listings that I can find in the older catalogs from third party
suppliers websites. Two main differences: they have appended an 'L' to
the part name, and the wire dimensions changed from .225" x .350" for
the H56 to .245" x .328" for the H56L.
The maximum operating deflection of 1.80" for the H56 that you give is
at 30% of the free length of the spring. The H56L catalog listing does
not give a value for maximum operating deflection at 30% of the free
length; they now consider 28% of the free length to be the maximum
operating deflection, which for the H56L is 1.68". If you compressed the
H56L to 30% of the free length would the deflection increase 0.12"? I
don't know, but I think it's a moot point because it's pretty close, and
because both catalogs make note that the 28/30% max deflection is for
design and informational purposes only; you wouldn't want to be
approaching those values in practical application. As far as the
deflection values at 15% and 20% of free length, they are exactly the
same between the H56 and H56L.
In a nutshell, it would appear to me that the H56 spring became (or has
been superseded by) the H56L, but thankfully they have almost identical
operating properties according to the catalog. Again, give Anchor Lamina
or a distributor a call to be sure. HTH,
Ryan
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 7:19 PM, steven sadler
<steven244sadler@gmail.com> wrote:
Bill,
Thanks for the information. This is an important subject for me
as I intend to finish putting the springs on my landing gear this
weekend. Can you take a look at my information below and see if I have
missed something?
I think we are looking at different springs. The Lamina H-56 and
H-56L springs are shown in different Lamina catalogs and have slightly
different information. The H-56 springs show a maximum allowable
deflection of 1.80" (not the 1.65" I stated earlier - I misread the
number) at 1.8 * 10 * 58.4 lbs/0.1 inch = 1051 lbs at full deflection.
It is interesting that the H-56L spring shows a fully compressed length
but the H-56 doesn't. The H-56L appears to have a bit more travel and
might actually be a better choice.
My arithmetic shows, for a 2.18" travel @ 58.4" per 1/10"
travel: 2.18 * 10 * 58.4 = 1273 lbs at full compression. With two
springs, the total available force before bottoming out will be 2500
lbs+.
Either way, it looks like a hard landing in a 1200 lb airplane
will probably bottom out the springs.
Steve in Winnipeg
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 2:37 PM, Bill Church
<eng@canadianrogers.com> wrote:
I've attached a JPG image of the Lamina catalog page
that shows the H56 spring data, highlighted.
The maximum recommended operating deflection is 1.68",
but the Max compressed length is 3.82", which means that the spring can
actually compress 6 - 3.82 = 2.18". This is not recommended, but is
possible.
The H-56 Lamina is the spring called for in the Frank
Pavliga drawing:
http://www.mykitplane.com/Planes/photoDisplay.cfm?PhotoName=lndg_gear_s
p
ring.jpg&PhotoID 09
In that drawing, the arrangement uses a 1/4" diameter
cross-bolt.
There is a note that says the slot should be 1/4" x
length to allow for full compression of spring (2 3/4" for H-56).
Based on the data from the catalog, full compression of
the spring will take 2.18" of travel. Add the diameter of the cross bolt
(0.25") for the minimum slot length: 2.18 + 0.25 = 2.43". So, a 2
1/2"
slot would suffice.
If a slot with length of only 1 3/4" is used with the
H-56 spring, and a 1/4" diameter cross-bolt, the spring will only be
able to compress 1 3/4" - 1/4" = 1 1/2". Based on the catalog data,
the
H-56 spring takes 58.4 pounds per 1/10" of deflection, so the landing
gear will reach the end of the slot at a loading of 876 pounds. That
might not be enough travel.
But in general, the slot length should be just slightly
longer than the sum of the spring full compression distance plus the
diameter of the cross-bolt (or pin).
Bill C.
________________________________
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of steven
sadler
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 2:18 PM
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Spring Gear
For a Lamina H-56 spring (a common die spring for small
aircraft use), the manufacturer's numbers show a maximum compression of
1.65". For that spring, there isn't any point in making the slot much
longer than 1 3/4" because the spring will be fully compressed already.
I am thinking that for any spring, you want the slot
just slightly longer than the spring full compression distance.
Steve in Winnipeg
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I agree with Ryan's post about frivolous (yet perhaps fun, jovial) posts th
at would merely take up precious
space in the Matronics archives, especially to those searching the archived
posts looking for solid information
when they have to dredge up a bunch of seaweed with it and sort thru the BS
and the good.
And Russell, have you gotten any more of those free Jim Beam hats lately o
r do you have to have your card
punched so many times at the beverage store before you get the t-shirt nex
t ?
Okay-here's a little hint.
DO NOT ARCHIVE
Mike C. in Ohio
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| Subject: | Re: Western Piets availabele next week? |
John,
If you don't mind a 40 mile detour off I-80 you are welcome to come to Santa Rosa
and see my Piet under construction. I have the fuselage on wheels, wing ribs
done, tail surfaces done, engine mount done, and engine about ready to hang.l
Santa Rosa is North of San Francisco on highway 101 and about 40 miles West of
I-80 via highway 12.
My address is 3504 BAnyan St and phone is 707-571-8001.
It would be nice to have a visitor and get some constructive comments.
Cheers,
Jim B.
Jim Boyer
Santa Rosa, CA
Pietenpol builder with Corvair
On Oct 9, 2009, AMsafetyC@aol.com wrote:
Going to Portland, Sacramento and Stockton next week looking for Piets, second
request got 2 reply's anyone else interested?Lemme noJohn
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| Subject: | Re: hickory wood-skinny legs |
Hey Chris and Mike,
Be sure to check out his kitchen remodel job to see if we can't slow him down.
Swipe some of those 15 ribs or something.
Jim B.
Jim Boyer
Santa Rosa, CA
Pietenpol builder with Corvair
On Oct 9, 2009, catdesigns@att.net wrote:
http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40" xmlns:v =
"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o =
"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w =
"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:st1 =
"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags">
Gary
It should be easy pickings as I'm betting you got
halfway done with the camera installation and moved on to other things. Be
warned, we will be counting those ribs just to make sure your not padding
the numbers.
Chris
Sacramento,
CA
WestCoastPiet.com
Do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From:
Gary
Boothe
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 5:20
AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: hickory
wood-skinny legs
Im over it
now
What concerns me
today is that Piet builders Chris Tracy and Mike Weaver are coming over to eat
my food, drink my beer and steal my tools! I have installed security cameras
in my garage, but I cannot account for the intellectual property they will
take. Fortunately, there isnt much!
We will finish off
the day on a positive note, though, with a visit to Bob OHaras Piet, just a
few miles away at the Georgetown
airport.
Gary
Boothe
Cool,
Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair
Conversion, mounted
Tail
done, Fuselage on gear
(15 ribs
down)
Do not
archive
From:
owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Mueller
Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 5:11
AM
To:
pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: hickory
wood-skinny legs
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 7:00 AM, Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net>
wrote:
Ryan,
Now, thats simply
not true! Why, just the other day, I was searching the archives for a
correlation between my love of hickory and women with skinny legs. Lo and
behold, there was Russells entry, confirming that, at least on one point,
someone out there agrees with me(on the skinny legs
part).
And you died a little bit inside....it's
ok...you can admit it. ;)
Ryan
do not
archive
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-Listhttp://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.comhttp://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c
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| Subject: | Re: Western Piets availabele next week? |
In a message dated 10/9/2009 4:23:21 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
jimboyer@hughes.net writes:
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Jim <jimboyer@hughes.net>
John,
If you don't mind a 40 mile detour off I-80 you are welcome to come to
Santa Rosa and see my Piet under construction. I have the fuselage on wheels,
wing ribs done, tail surfaces done, engine mount done, and engine about
ready to hang.l
Santa Rosa is North of San Francisco on highway 101 and about 40 miles
West of I-80 via highway 12.
My address is 3504 BAnyan St and phone is 707-571-8001.
It would be nice to have a visitor and get some constructive comments.
Cheers,
Jim B.
Jim Boyer
Santa Rosa, CA
Pietenpol builder with Corvair
On Oct 9, 2009, AMsafetyC@aol.com wrote:
Going to Portland, Sacramento and Stockton next week looking for Piets,
second request got 2 reply's anyone else interested? Lemme no John
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| Subject: | Re: the "do not archive" option |
I am looking at restarting an old project and have been closely reading
posts and doing a lot of searching lately. One problem that I have seen
with Do Not Archive is that it appears in a lot of posts that contain
information that should be in the archives. Some posters seem to almost
have it in their signatures.
Dave
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| Subject: | Western Piets availabele next week? |
Hold the phone! You have her on the gear? Let's see some pics!!
Gary Boothe
Cool, Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion, mounted
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
(15 ribs down)
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 1:18 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Western Piets availabele next week?
John,
If you don't mind a 40 mile detour off I-80 you are welcome to come to Santa
Rosa and see my Piet under construction. I have the fuselage on wheels, wing
ribs done, tail surfaces done, engine mount done, and engine about ready to
hang.l
Santa Rosa is North of San Francisco on highway 101 and about 40 miles West
of I-80 via highway 12.
My address is 3504 BAnyan St and phone is 707-571-8001.
It would be nice to have a visitor and get some constructive comments.
Cheers,
Jim B.
Jim Boyer
Santa Rosa, CA
Pietenpol builder with Corvair
On Oct 9, 2009, AMsafetyC@aol.com wrote:
Going to Portland, Sacramento and Stockton next week looking for Piets,
second request got 2 reply's anyone else interested?Lemme noJohn
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| Subject: | Re: the "do not archive" option |
Dave,
If that is the case, then that is no problem with the 'do not archive' tag,
that would just be an issue with the person posting. If you see someone
putting a 'do not archive' tag on a message that you feel contains valuable
information, you can always repost that information yourself for inclusion
in the archives. On a side note, the archives contain lots of information
going back at least 13 years now. Quite possibly some of the stuff you are
referring to has already been hashed/rehashed out in the past....
Ryan
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 5:36 PM, Dave and Connie <dmatt@frontiernet.net>wrote:
> dmatt@frontiernet.net>
>
> I am looking at restarting an old project and have been closely reading
> posts and doing a lot of searching lately. One problem that I have seen
> with Do Not Archive is that it appears in a lot of posts that contain
> information that should be in the archives. Some posters seem to almost
> have it in their signatures.
>
> Dave
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Western Piets availabele next week? |
Just had to send it to you; i.e. ask and you shall receive. I've got all th
e fuselage fittings off as I am sanding and varnishing the inside of the co
ckpits. Then paint all the control sticks, etc before mounting them again.
Notice I still have the price tag on the tailwheel; I may leave it there al
a Minnie Pearl.
Jim B.
Jim Boyer
Santa Rosa, CA
Pietenpol builder with Corvair
On Oct 9, 2009, Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote:
Hold the phone! You have her on the gear? Let's see some pics!!
Gary Boothe
Cool, Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion, mounted
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
(15 ribs down=C2=85)
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 1:18 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Western Piets availabele next week?
John,
If you don't mind a 40 mile detour off I-80 you are welcome to come to Sant
a
Rosa and see my Piet under construction. I have the fuselage on wheels, win
g
ribs done, tail surfaces done, engine mount done, and engine about ready to
hang.l
Santa Rosa is North of San Francisco on highway 101 and about 40 miles West
of I-80 via highway 12.
My address is 3504 BAnyan St and phone is 707-571-8001.
It would be nice to have a visitor and get some constructive comments.
Cheers,
Jim B.
Jim Boyer
Santa Rosa, CA
Pietenpol builder with Corvair
On Oct 9, 2009, AMsafetyC@aol.com wrote:
Going to Portland, Sacramento and Stockton next week looking for Piets,
second request=C2- got 2 reply's anyone else interested?=C2-Lemme no=C2
-John
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| Subject: | Western Piets availabele next week? |
Jim,
It's just about time!!! You must be excited!
I have to ask, though: What's wrong with your camera? I notice that your
pictures are getting fuzzy, or do I need a new prescription?
Gary Boothe
Cool, Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion, mounted
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
(15 ribs down)
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 5:02 PM
Subject: Re: RE: Pietenpol-List: Western Piets availabele next week?
Just had to send it to you; i.e. ask and you shall receive. I've got all the
fuselage fittings off as I am sanding and varnishing the inside of the
cockpits. Then paint all the control sticks, etc before mounting them again.
Notice I still have the price tag on the tailwheel; I may leave it there ala
Minnie Pearl.
Jim B.
Jim Boyer
Santa Rosa, CA
Pietenpol builder with Corvair
On Oct 9, 2009, Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote:
Hold the phone! You have her on the gear? Let's see some pics!!
Gary Boothe
Cool, Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion, mounted
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
(15 ribs down)
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 1:18 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Western Piets availabele next week?
John,
If you don't mind a 40 mile detour off I-80 you are welcome to come to Santa
Rosa and see my Piet under construction. I have the fuselage on wheels, wing
ribs done, tail surfaces done, engine mount done, and engine about ready to
hang.l
Santa Rosa is North of San Francisco on highway 101 and about 40 miles West
of I-80 via highway 12.
My address is 3504 BAnyan St and phone is 707-571-8001.
It would be nice to have a visitor and get some constructive comments.
Cheers,
Jim B.
Jim Boyer
Santa Rosa, CA
Pietenpol builder with Corvair
On Oct 9, 2009, AMsafetyC@aol.com wrote:
Going to Portland, Sacramento and Stockton next week looking for Piets,
second request got 2 reply's anyone else interested?Lemme noJohn
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| Subject: | Re: hickory wood-skinny legs |
Jim,
Sure wish you hadn't of said that. Here's my garage when they arrived:
Here's how it looked when they left:
I'm still trying to figure out what's missing..
.and I thought we were having such fun! Chris Tracy on my right wing, Mike
Weaver on my left wing.
We got to go to Georgetown Airport(E36) and see Bob O'Hara's nice Piet. He
is actually one of three owner/builders.
C-85
Piper Colt gear (reversed).and, NO, that is not a GN-1! They did some
interesting reinforcing for that rear gear leg!
Incidentally, Bob's so old he remembers when they invented dirt, still
flies!!
Gary Boothe
Cool, Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion, mounted
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
(15 ribs down.)
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 1:22 PM
Subject: Re: Re: Pietenpol-List: hickory wood-skinny legs
Hey Chris and Mike,
Be sure to check out his kitchen remodel job to see if we can't slow him
down. Swipe some of those 15 ribs or something.
Jim B.
Jim Boyer
Santa Rosa, CA
Pietenpol builder with Corvair
On Oct 9, 2009, catdesigns@att.net wrote:
http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40" xmlns:v =
"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o =
"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w =
"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:st1 =
"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags">
Gary
It should be easy pickings as I'm betting you got
halfway done with the camera installation and moved on to other things. Be
warned, we will be counting those ribs just to make sure your not padding
the numbers.
Chris
Sacramento,
CA
WestCoastPiet.com
Do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From:
Gary
Boothe
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 5:20
AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: hickory
wood-skinny legs
I'm over it
now.
What concerns me
today is that Piet builders Chris Tracy and Mike Weaver are coming over to
eat
my food, drink my beer and steal my tools! I have installed security
cameras
in my garage, but I cannot account for the intellectual property they will
take. Fortunately, there isn't much!
We will finish off
the day on a positive note, though, with a visit to Bob O'Hara's Piet,
just a
few miles away at the Georgetown
airport.
Gary
Boothe
Cool,
Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair
Conversion, mounted
Tail
done, Fuselage on gear
(15 ribs
down.)
Do not
archive
From:
owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ryan
Mueller
Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 5:11
AM
To:
pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: hickory
wood-skinny legs
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 7:00 AM, Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net>
wrote:
Ryan,
Now, that's simply
not true! Why, just the other day, I was searching the archives for a
correlation between my love of hickory and women with skinny legs. Lo and
behold, there was Russell's entry, confirming that, at least on one point,
someone out there agrees with me.(on the skinny legs
part).
And you died a little bit inside....it's
ok...you can admit it. ;)
Ryan
do not
archive
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.matronics.com/
Navigator?Pietenpol-Listhttp://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics
.comhttp://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribu
tion
href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.matronic
s.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c
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| Subject: | Re: hickory wood-skinny legs |
cool pictures. Looks like you guys had some fun....
So is the valve cover crooked a bit in your corvair picture (starboard side) or
is that just the photo distortion? Looks like the bottom is tilted outward a
bit....
Sure is encouraging to see completed and progressing Air Campers!
-----Original Message-----
>From: Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net>
>Sent: Oct 9, 2009 7:37 PM
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RE: Re: Pietenpol-List: hickory wood-skinny legs
>
>Jim,
>
>
>
>Sure wish you hadn't of said that. Here's my garage when they arrived:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Here's how it looked when they left:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>I'm still trying to figure out what's missing..
>
>
>
>
>
>
>.and I thought we were having such fun! Chris Tracy on my right wing, Mike
>Weaver on my left wing.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>We got to go to Georgetown Airport(E36) and see Bob O'Hara's nice Piet. He
>is actually one of three owner/builders.
>
>
>
>C-85
>
>Piper Colt gear (reversed).and, NO, that is not a GN-1! They did some
>interesting reinforcing for that rear gear leg!
>
>
>
>Incidentally, Bob's so old he remembers when they invented dirt, still
>flies!!
>
>
>
>Gary Boothe
>
>Cool, Ca.
>
>Pietenpol
>
>WW Corvair Conversion, mounted
>
>Tail done, Fuselage on gear
>
>(15 ribs down.)
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim
>Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 1:22 PM
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Re: Pietenpol-List: hickory wood-skinny legs
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Hey Chris and Mike,
>
>Be sure to check out his kitchen remodel job to see if we can't slow him
>down. Swipe some of those 15 ribs or something.
>
>Jim B.
>
>
>
>Jim Boyer
>
>Santa Rosa, CA
>
>Pietenpol builder with Corvair
>
>
>
>On Oct 9, 2009, catdesigns@att.net wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40" xmlns:v =
>
>"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o =
>
>"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w =
>
>"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:st1 =
>
>"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags">
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Gary
>
>
>
>It should be easy pickings as I'm betting you got
>
>halfway done with the camera installation and moved on to other things. Be
>
>warned, we will be counting those ribs just to make sure your not padding
>
>the numbers.
>
>
>
>Chris
>
>Sacramento,
>
>CA
>
>WestCoastPiet.com
>
>
>
>Do not archive
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From:
>
> Gary
>
> Boothe
>
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>
>
>
> Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 5:20
>
> AM
>
> Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: hickory
>
> wood-skinny legs
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I'm over it
>
> now.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> What concerns me
>
> today is that Piet builders Chris Tracy and Mike Weaver are coming over to
>eat
>
> my food, drink my beer and steal my tools! I have installed security
>cameras
>
> in my garage, but I cannot account for the intellectual property they will
>
>
> take. Fortunately, there isn't much!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> We will finish off
>
> the day on a positive note, though, with a visit to Bob O'Hara's Piet,
>just a
>
> few miles away at the Georgetown
>
> airport.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Gary
>
> Boothe
>
>
>
> Cool,
>
> Ca.
>
>
>
> Pietenpol
>
>
>
> WW Corvair
>
> Conversion, mounted
>
>
>
> Tail
>
> done, Fuselage on gear
>
>
>
> (15 ribs
>
> down.)
>
>
>
> Do not
>
> archive
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From:
>
> owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
>
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ryan
>Mueller
>
>Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 5:11
>
> AM
>
>To:
>
> pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>
>Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: hickory
>
> wood-skinny legs
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 7:00 AM, Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net>
>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Ryan,
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Now, that's simply
>
> not true! Why, just the other day, I was searching the archives for a
>
> correlation between my love of hickory and women with skinny legs. Lo and
>
> behold, there was Russell's entry, confirming that, at least on one point,
>
>
> someone out there agrees with me.(on the skinny legs
>
> part).
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>And you died a little bit inside....it's
>
> ok...you can admit it. ;)
>
>
>
>Ryan
>
>
>
>do not
>
> archive
>
>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.matronics.com/
>Navigator?Pietenpol-Listhttp://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics
>.comhttp://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribu
>tion
>
>
>
>href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.matronic
>s.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
>
>href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
>
>href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c
>
>
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Jim,
I believe you are correct. There is more of a gap to the south than there is
to the north. I would posit two theories: Gary was showing off his
immaculate valve train to his guests and forgot to tighten, and they
promptly absconded with his entire project, or Gary is going to pull the
covers to set the lifters before his first start.
Gary, I see you have the carb mounting pads still on the cylinders...what
are you doing for your intake setup? (I don't recall)
Have a good night,
Ryan
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 11:01 PM, Jim Markle <jim_markle@mindspring.com>wrote:
> jim_markle@mindspring.com>
>
> cool pictures. Looks like you guys had some fun....
>
> So is the valve cover crooked a bit in your corvair picture (starboard
> side) or is that just the photo distortion? Looks like the bottom is tilted
> outward a bit....
>
> Sure is encouraging to see completed and progressing Air Campers!
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net>
> >Sent: Oct 9, 2009 7:37 PM
> >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> >Subject: RE: Re: Pietenpol-List: hickory wood-skinny legs
> >
> >Jim,
> >
> >
> >
> >Sure wish you hadn't of said that. Here's my garage when they arrived:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Here's how it looked when they left:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >I'm still trying to figure out what's missing..
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >.and I thought we were having such fun! Chris Tracy on my right wing, Mike
> >Weaver on my left wing.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >We got to go to Georgetown Airport(E36) and see Bob O'Hara's nice Piet. He
> >is actually one of three owner/builders.
> >
> >
> >
> >C-85
> >
> >Piper Colt gear (reversed).and, NO, that is not a GN-1! They did some
> >interesting reinforcing for that rear gear leg!
> >
> >
> >
> >Incidentally, Bob's so old he remembers when they invented dirt, still
> >flies!!
> >
> >
> >
> >Gary Boothe
> >
> >Cool, Ca.
> >
> >Pietenpol
> >
> >WW Corvair Conversion, mounted
> >
> >Tail done, Fuselage on gear
> >
> >(15 ribs down.)
> >
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> >[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim
> >Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 1:22 PM
> >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> >Subject: Re: Re: Pietenpol-List: hickory wood-skinny legs
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Hey Chris and Mike,
> >
> >Be sure to check out his kitchen remodel job to see if we can't slow him
> >down. Swipe some of those 15 ribs or something.
> >
> >Jim B.
> >
> >
> >
> >Jim Boyer
> >
> >Santa Rosa, CA
> >
> >Pietenpol builder with Corvair
> >
> >
> >
> >On Oct 9, 2009, catdesigns@att.net wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40" xmlns:v
> >
> >"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o
> >
> >"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w
> >
> >"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:st1
> >
> >"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags">
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Gary
> >
> >
> >
> >It should be easy pickings as I'm betting you got
> >
> >halfway done with the camera installation and moved on to other things. Be
> >
> >warned, we will be counting those ribs just to make sure your not padding
> >
> >the numbers.
> >
> >
> >
> >Chris
> >
> >Sacramento,
> >
> >CA
> >
> >WestCoastPiet.com
> >
> >
> >
> >Do not archive
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >
> > From:
> >
> > Gary
> >
> > Boothe
> >
> > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> >
> >
> >
> > Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 5:20
> >
> > AM
> >
> > Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: hickory
> >
> > wood-skinny legs
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I'm over it
> >
> > now.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > What concerns me
> >
> > today is that Piet builders Chris Tracy and Mike Weaver are coming over
> to
> >eat
> >
> > my food, drink my beer and steal my tools! I have installed security
> >cameras
> >
> > in my garage, but I cannot account for the intellectual property they
> will
> >
> >
> > take. Fortunately, there isn't much!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > We will finish off
> >
> > the day on a positive note, though, with a visit to Bob O'Hara's Piet,
> >just a
> >
> > few miles away at the Georgetown
> >
> > airport.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Gary
> >
> > Boothe
> >
> >
> >
> > Cool,
> >
> > Ca.
> >
> >
> >
> > Pietenpol
> >
> >
> >
> > WW Corvair
> >
> > Conversion, mounted
> >
> >
> >
> > Tail
> >
> > done, Fuselage on gear
> >
> >
> >
> > (15 ribs
> >
> > down.)
> >
> >
> >
> > Do not
> >
> > archive
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From:
> >
> > owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> >
> > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ryan
> >Mueller
> >
> >Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 5:11
> >
> > AM
> >
> >To:
> >
> > pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> >
> >Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: hickory
> >
> > wood-skinny legs
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 7:00 AM, Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net>
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Ryan,
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Now, that's simply
> >
> > not true! Why, just the other day, I was searching the archives for a
> >
> > correlation between my love of hickory and women with skinny legs. Lo
> and
> >
> > behold, there was Russell's entry, confirming that, at least on one
> point,
> >
> >
> > someone out there agrees with me.(on the skinny legs
> >
> > part).
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >And you died a little bit inside....it's
> >
> > ok...you can admit it. ;)
> >
> >
> >
> >Ryan
> >
> >
> >
> >do not
> >
> > archive
> >
> >http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">
> http://www.matronics.com/
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> >tion
> >
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> >
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> >
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Jim,
Here is a picture I found in Gary's security camera. If you look closely
you can see Mike making a few helpful adjustments to Gary valve cover
just as Gary seems to notice. Good thing I accidentally found the camera
in the trunk of the car when I got home or he might think we were up to
no good. I spoke to his wife about the kitchen remodel but Gary had
recently bought her silence with a bunch of quilting supplies. I think
it's hopeless to slow him down. We are just going to have to build
faster. This new kid on the block must not fly before us! If so we
will have wasted 8 years of procrastination and excuses.
Chris
Sacramento, CA
WestCoastPiet.com
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----- Original Message -----
From: Gary Boothe
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 5:37 PM
Subject: RE: Re: Pietenpol-List: hickory wood-skinny legs
Jim,
Sure wish you hadn't of said that. Here's my garage when they arrived:
Here's how it looked when they left:
I'm still trying to figure out what's missing..
.and I thought we were having such fun! Chris Tracy on my right wing,
Mike Weaver on my left wing.
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| Subject: | Re: hickory wood-skinny legs |
I highly recommend you all go to Gary's house. Not only does he
generously loan you lots of stuff from his garage but he feeds you lunch
and chauffeurs you around as well. His low cost Poplarpol is coming
along nicely and I am currious to see how the weight compairs to my high
cost Sprucenpol.
Chris
Sacramento, CA
WestCoastPiet.com
Do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Gary Boothe
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 5:37 PM
Subject: RE: Re: Pietenpol-List: hickory wood-skinny legs
Jim,
Sure wish you hadn't of said that. Here's my garage when they arrived:
Here's how it looked when they left:
I'm still trying to figure out what's missing..
.and I thought we were having such fun! Chris Tracy on my right wing,
Mike Weaver on my left wing.
We got to go to Georgetown Airport(E36) and see Bob O'Hara's nice
Piet. He is actually one of three owner/builders.
C-85
Piper Colt gear (reversed).and, NO, that is not a GN-1! They did some
interesting reinforcing for that rear gear leg!
Incidentally, Bob's so old he remembers when they invented dirt, still
flies!!
Gary Boothe
Cool, Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion, mounted
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
(15 ribs down.)
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 1:22 PM
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Re: Pietenpol-List: hickory wood-skinny legs
Hey Chris and Mike,
Be sure to check out his kitchen remodel job to see if we can't slow
him down. Swipe some of those 15 ribs or something.
Jim B.
Jim Boyer
Santa Rosa, CA
Pietenpol builder with Corvair
On Oct 9, 2009, catdesigns@att.net wrote:
http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40" xmlns:v =
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"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags">
Gary
It should be easy pickings as I'm betting you got
halfway done with the camera installation and moved on to other
things. Be
warned, we will be counting those ribs just to make sure your not
padding
the numbers.
Chris
Sacramento,
CA
WestCoastPiet.com
Do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From:
Gary
Boothe
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 5:20
AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: hickory
wood-skinny legs
I'm over it
now.
What concerns me
today is that Piet builders Chris Tracy and Mike Weaver are coming
over to eat
my food, drink my beer and steal my tools! I have installed security
cameras
in my garage, but I cannot account for the intellectual property
they will
take. Fortunately, there isn't much!
We will finish off
the day on a positive note, though, with a visit to Bob O'Hara's
Piet, just a
few miles away at the Georgetown
airport.
Gary
Boothe
Cool,
Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair
Conversion, mounted
Tail
done, Fuselage on gear
(15 ribs
down.)
Do not
archive
From:
owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ryan
Mueller
Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 5:11
AM
To:
pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: hickory
wood-skinny legs
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 7:00 AM, Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net>
wrote:
Ryan,
Now, that's simply
not true! Why, just the other day, I was searching the archives for
a
correlation between my love of hickory and women with skinny legs.
Lo and
behold, there was Russell's entry, confirming that, at least on one
point,
someone out there agrees with me.(on the skinny legs
part).
And you died a little bit inside....it's
ok...you can admit it. ;)
Ryan
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