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     1. 01:02 AM - Re: lift struts for GN-1 /Pietenpol (ivan.todorovic)
     2. 05:44 AM - 106 years ago today- prelude to flight (helspersew@aol.com)
     3. 07:02 AM - Re: 106 years ago today- prelude to flight (Jim Markle)
     4. 09:04 AM - Special Airworthiness Info Bulletin wrt float-type carbs (Dan Yocum)
     5. 10:13 AM - Re: 106 years ago today- prelude to flight (AMsafetyC@aol.com)
     6. 12:58 PM - Re: 106 years ago today- prelude to flight (helspersew@aol.com)
     7. 05:37 PM - Re: exhaust manifold [was Re: humped center section] (Rick Holland)
     8. 05:52 PM - Re: exhaust manifold [was Re: humped center section] (Gary Boothe)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | Re: lift struts for GN-1 /Pietenpol | 
      
      
      
      coxwelljon wrote:
      > ...  If so it sounds like I am in the ball park.
      
      Jon,
      
      There is a thread on this list where it is already calculated:
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=50044&highlight=strut+rod+ends
      
      Regards,
      Ivan
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=269028#269028
      
      
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| Subject:  | 106 years ago today- prelude to flight | 
      
      
      >From the diary of Orville Wright:
      
      Oct. 23, 1903
      Kitty Hawk N.C.
      
      Worked on skids during morning, and after dinner finished putting on hinge
      s. Dr. Spratt arrived shortly after noon. Sat up till 11 o'clock discussin
      g some of his theories of flight.
      
      do not archive
      
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| Subject:  | Re: 106 years ago today- prelude to flight | 
      
      
      And interestingly....I climbed Kill Devil Hill last evening....and thought a LOT
      about those theories of flight as I sat up on top looking down on the historic
      site....
      
      It was neat....
      
      -----Original Message-----
      >From: helspersew@aol.com
      >Sent: Oct 23, 2009 8:43 AM
      >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
      >Subject: Pietenpol-List: 106 years ago today- prelude to flight
      >
      >
      >>From the diary of Orville Wright:
      >
      >Oct. 23, 1903
      >Kitty Hawk N.C.
      >
      >Worked on skids during morning, and after dinner finished putting on hinges. Dr.
      Spratt arrived shortly after noon. Sat up till 11 o'clock discussing some of
      his theories of flight.
      >
      >do not archive
      
      
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| Subject:  | Special Airworthiness Info Bulletin wrt float-type carbs | 
      
      
      Just an FYI for those of us with float-type carbs which, I guess, covers 
      just about all of us:
      
      http://download.aopa.org/epilot/2009/091022saib.pdf
      
      Dan
      
      -- 
      Dan Yocum
      Fermilab  630.840.6509
      yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
      Fermilab.  Just zeros and ones.
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: 106 years ago today- prelude to flight | 
      
      Nicely done Dan
      John
      Do not archive
      
      
      In a message dated 10/23/2009 8:45:02 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
      helspersew@aol.com writes:
      
      >From the diary of Orville Wright:
      
      Oct. 23, 1903
      Kitty Hawk N.C.
      
      Worked on skids during morning, and after dinner  finished putting on 
      hinges. Dr. Spratt arrived shortly after noon. Sat up till  11 o'clock discussing
      
      some of his theories of flight.
      
      do not archive
      
      
      (http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List) 
      (http://www.matronics.com/contribution) 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: 106 years ago today- prelude to flight | 
      
      
       Jim,
      
      That is cool.  I visited there on the 100th anniversary year. Very cool pl
      ace and I highly recommend it also.
      
      Dan Helsper
      Poplar Grove, IL.
      
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: Jim Markle <jim_markle@mindspring.com>
      Sent: Fri, Oct 23, 2009 8:36 am
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: 106 years ago today- prelude to flight
      
      
      m>
      And interestingly....I climbed Kill Devil Hill last evening....and thought
       a LOT 
      bout those theories of flight as I sat up on top looking down on the histo
      ric 
      ite....
      It was neat....
      -----Original Message-----
      From: helspersew@aol.com
      Sent: Oct 23, 2009 8:43 AM
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: 106 years ago today- prelude to flight
      
      
      >From the diary of Orville Wright:
      
      Oct. 23, 1903
      Kitty Hawk N.C.
      
      Worked on skids during morning, and after dinner finished putting on hinge
      s. 
      r. Spratt arrived shortly after noon. Sat up till 11 o'clock discussing so
      me of 
      is theories of flight.
      
      do not archive
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: humped center section] | 
      
      Got 90 degree mandrel bent 1 1/2" mild steel exhaust pipe pieces for mine
      for $16 from JC Whitney.  Just cut the angles you need, very easy welding.
      
      rick
      
      On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 2:44 AM, Clif Dawson <CDAWSON5854@shaw.ca> wrote:
      
      > I made them. I found a local outlet for mandrel bent
      > steel tubing elbows and  U's. I forget how much but
      > not expensive so if you don't get it right the first time
      > it's not a big expense.
      >
      > I bought a 6" channel piece from metalsupermarket,
      > measured and drilled bolt holes from a cardboard
      > template taken directly from the engine. I made up the
      > front tube assembly with a long enough tube to go as
      > far back as I wanted the exhaust to go with the straight
      > part parallel to the flange.Then I fit the rear tube to that
      > and it's flange. This part is really picky!
      >
      > Once that was fitted I marked all around that joint and
      > cut out the straight tube to fit. Fiddled with this quite
      > a bit too. This was spot welded then checked for fit on
      > the engine. Once good and back on the jig it was fully
      > welded. My welding is structuraly sound but not all
      > that pretty so I filed and ground it till it was. It appears
      > that wasn't such a great idea. :-) It looks real nice in the
      > pics but isn't so hot in real life. Oh well.
      >
      > Oh yes, make sure your horizontal piping is parallel to
      > the plane, not the engine if the engine is angled down
      > at all.
      >
      > Clif
      >
      >
      > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Yocum" <yocum@fnal.gov>
      > To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
      > Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 11:40 AM
      > Subject: exhaust manifold [was Re: Pietenpol-List: humped center section]
      >
      >
      >>
      >> Clif,
      >>
      >> I like the look of your exhaust pipes.  Did you make your own or did you
      >> buy them from somewhere?  Mine are starting to rust through, so I'll
      >> need new ones real soon...
      >>
      >> Thanks,
      >> Dan
      >>
      >>
      >> Clif Dawson wrote:
      >>
      >> <snip>
      >>
      >>  I've also attached a pic of my throttle linkage
      >>> and left side exhaust manifold.
      >>>
      >>
      >> --
      >> Dan Yocum
      >> Fermilab  630.840.6509
      >> yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
      >> Fermilab.  Just zeros and ones.
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >
      >
      > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      >
      >
      > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
      > 18:44:00
      >
      
      
      -- 
      Rick Holland
      Castle Rock, Colorado
      
      "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"
      
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| Subject:  | Re: humped center section] | 
      
      Good to know Rick! Jim Boyer and I have bought some U-bend mandrels from
      www.magnumforce.com <http://www.magnumforce.com/> .... A little more
      expensive.
      
      
      Gary Boothe
      
      Cool, Ca.
      
      Pietenpol
      
      WW Corvair Conversion, mounted
      
      Tail done, Fuselage on gear
      
      (15 ribs down.)
      
        _____  
      
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick Holland
      Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 5:34 PM
      Subject: Re: exhaust manifold [was Re: Pietenpol-List: humped center
      section]
      
      
      Got 90 degree mandrel bent 1 1/2" mild steel exhaust pipe pieces for mine
      for $16 from JC Whitney.  Just cut the angles you need, very easy welding.
      
      rick
      
      On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 2:44 AM, Clif Dawson <CDAWSON5854@shaw.ca> wrote:
      
      I made them. I found a local outlet for mandrel bent
      steel tubing elbows and  U's. I forget how much but
      not expensive so if you don't get it right the first time
      it's not a big expense.
      
      I bought a 6" channel piece from metalsupermarket,
      measured and drilled bolt holes from a cardboard
      template taken directly from the engine. I made up the
      front tube assembly with a long enough tube to go as
      far back as I wanted the exhaust to go with the straight
      part parallel to the flange.Then I fit the rear tube to that
      and it's flange. This part is really picky!
      
      Once that was fitted I marked all around that joint and
      cut out the straight tube to fit. Fiddled with this quite
      a bit too. This was spot welded then checked for fit on
      the engine. Once good and back on the jig it was fully
      welded. My welding is structuraly sound but not all
      that pretty so I filed and ground it till it was. It appears
      that wasn't such a great idea. :-) It looks real nice in the
      pics but isn't so hot in real life. Oh well.
      
      Oh yes, make sure your horizontal piping is parallel to
      the plane, not the engine if the engine is angled down
      at all.
      
      Clif
      
      
      ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Yocum" <yocum@fnal.gov>
      Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 11:40 AM
      Subject: exhaust manifold [was Re: Pietenpol-List: humped center section]
      
      
      
      Clif,
      
      I like the look of your exhaust pipes.  Did you make your own or did you
      buy them from somewhere?  Mine are starting to rust through, so I'll
      need new ones real soon...
      
      Thanks,
      Dan
      
      
      Clif Dawson wrote:
      
      <snip>
      
      I've also attached a pic of my throttle linkage
      and left side exhaust manifold.
      
      
      -- 
      Dan Yocum
      Fermilab  630.840.6509
      yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
      Fermilab.  Just zeros and ones.
      
      
      ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
      ----
      
      
      Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
      
      18:44:00
      
      
      -- 
      Rick Holland
      Castle Rock, Colorado
      
      "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad" 
      
      
 
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