---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 10/23/09: 8 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:02 AM - Re: lift struts for GN-1 /Pietenpol (ivan.todorovic) 2. 05:44 AM - 106 years ago today- prelude to flight (helspersew@aol.com) 3. 07:02 AM - Re: 106 years ago today- prelude to flight (Jim Markle) 4. 09:04 AM - Special Airworthiness Info Bulletin wrt float-type carbs (Dan Yocum) 5. 10:13 AM - Re: 106 years ago today- prelude to flight (AMsafetyC@aol.com) 6. 12:58 PM - Re: 106 years ago today- prelude to flight (helspersew@aol.com) 7. 05:37 PM - Re: exhaust manifold [was Re: humped center section] (Rick Holland) 8. 05:52 PM - Re: exhaust manifold [was Re: humped center section] (Gary Boothe) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:02:45 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: lift struts for GN-1 /Pietenpol From: "ivan.todorovic" coxwelljon wrote: > ... If so it sounds like I am in the ball park. Jon, There is a thread on this list where it is already calculated: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=50044&highlight=strut+rod+ends Regards, Ivan Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=269028#269028 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:44:25 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: 106 years ago today- prelude to flight From: helspersew@aol.com >From the diary of Orville Wright: Oct. 23, 1903 Kitty Hawk N.C. Worked on skids during morning, and after dinner finished putting on hinge s. Dr. Spratt arrived shortly after noon. Sat up till 11 o'clock discussin g some of his theories of flight. do not archive ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:02:21 AM PST US From: Jim Markle Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: 106 years ago today- prelude to flight And interestingly....I climbed Kill Devil Hill last evening....and thought a LOT about those theories of flight as I sat up on top looking down on the historic site.... It was neat.... -----Original Message----- >From: helspersew@aol.com >Sent: Oct 23, 2009 8:43 AM >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Subject: Pietenpol-List: 106 years ago today- prelude to flight > > >>From the diary of Orville Wright: > >Oct. 23, 1903 >Kitty Hawk N.C. > >Worked on skids during morning, and after dinner finished putting on hinges. Dr. Spratt arrived shortly after noon. Sat up till 11 o'clock discussing some of his theories of flight. > >do not archive ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:04:15 AM PST US From: Dan Yocum Subject: Pietenpol-List: Special Airworthiness Info Bulletin wrt float-type carbs Just an FYI for those of us with float-type carbs which, I guess, covers just about all of us: http://download.aopa.org/epilot/2009/091022saib.pdf Dan -- Dan Yocum Fermilab 630.840.6509 yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov Fermilab. Just zeros and ones. ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 10:13:30 AM PST US From: AMsafetyC@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: 106 years ago today- prelude to flight Nicely done Dan John Do not archive In a message dated 10/23/2009 8:45:02 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, helspersew@aol.com writes: >From the diary of Orville Wright: Oct. 23, 1903 Kitty Hawk N.C. Worked on skids during morning, and after dinner finished putting on hinges. Dr. Spratt arrived shortly after noon. Sat up till 11 o'clock discussing some of his theories of flight. do not archive (http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List) (http://www.matronics.com/contribution) ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 12:58:56 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: 106 years ago today- prelude to flight From: helspersew@aol.com Jim, That is cool. I visited there on the 100th anniversary year. Very cool pl ace and I highly recommend it also. Dan Helsper Poplar Grove, IL. -----Original Message----- From: Jim Markle Sent: Fri, Oct 23, 2009 8:36 am Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: 106 years ago today- prelude to flight m> And interestingly....I climbed Kill Devil Hill last evening....and thought a LOT bout those theories of flight as I sat up on top looking down on the histo ric ite.... It was neat.... -----Original Message----- From: helspersew@aol.com Sent: Oct 23, 2009 8:43 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: 106 years ago today- prelude to flight >From the diary of Orville Wright: Oct. 23, 1903 Kitty Hawk N.C. Worked on skids during morning, and after dinner finished putting on hinge s. r. Spratt arrived shortly after noon. Sat up till 11 o'clock discussing so me of is theories of flight. do not archive -======================== ======================== =========== -= - The Pietenpol-List Email Forum - -= Use the Matronics List Features Navigator to browse -= the many List utilities such as List Un/Subscription, -= Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, -= Photoshare, and much much more: - -= --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List - -======================== ======================== =========== -= - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - -= Same great content also available via the Web Forums! - -= --> http://forums.matronics.com - -======================== ======================== =========== -= - List Contribution Web Site - -= Thank you for your generous support! -= -Matt Dralle, List Admin. -= --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution -======================== ======================== =========== ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 05:37:26 PM PST US Subject: Re: exhaust manifold [was Re: Pietenpol-List: humped center section] From: Rick Holland Got 90 degree mandrel bent 1 1/2" mild steel exhaust pipe pieces for mine for $16 from JC Whitney. Just cut the angles you need, very easy welding. rick On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 2:44 AM, Clif Dawson wrote: > I made them. I found a local outlet for mandrel bent > steel tubing elbows and U's. I forget how much but > not expensive so if you don't get it right the first time > it's not a big expense. > > I bought a 6" channel piece from metalsupermarket, > measured and drilled bolt holes from a cardboard > template taken directly from the engine. I made up the > front tube assembly with a long enough tube to go as > far back as I wanted the exhaust to go with the straight > part parallel to the flange.Then I fit the rear tube to that > and it's flange. This part is really picky! > > Once that was fitted I marked all around that joint and > cut out the straight tube to fit. Fiddled with this quite > a bit too. This was spot welded then checked for fit on > the engine. Once good and back on the jig it was fully > welded. My welding is structuraly sound but not all > that pretty so I filed and ground it till it was. It appears > that wasn't such a great idea. :-) It looks real nice in the > pics but isn't so hot in real life. Oh well. > > Oh yes, make sure your horizontal piping is parallel to > the plane, not the engine if the engine is angled down > at all. > > Clif > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Yocum" > To: > Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 11:40 AM > Subject: exhaust manifold [was Re: Pietenpol-List: humped center section] > > >> >> Clif, >> >> I like the look of your exhaust pipes. Did you make your own or did you >> buy them from somewhere? Mine are starting to rust through, so I'll >> need new ones real soon... >> >> Thanks, >> Dan >> >> >> Clif Dawson wrote: >> >> >> >> I've also attached a pic of my throttle linkage >>> and left side exhaust manifold. >>> >> >> -- >> Dan Yocum >> Fermilab 630.840.6509 >> yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov >> Fermilab. Just zeros and ones. >> >> >> >> >> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > 18:44:00 > -- Rick Holland Castle Rock, Colorado "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad" ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 05:52:04 PM PST US From: "Gary Boothe" Subject: RE: exhaust manifold [was Re: Pietenpol-List: humped center section] Good to know Rick! Jim Boyer and I have bought some U-bend mandrels from www.magnumforce.com .... A little more expensive. Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion, mounted Tail done, Fuselage on gear (15 ribs down.) _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick Holland Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 5:34 PM Subject: Re: exhaust manifold [was Re: Pietenpol-List: humped center section] Got 90 degree mandrel bent 1 1/2" mild steel exhaust pipe pieces for mine for $16 from JC Whitney. Just cut the angles you need, very easy welding. rick On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 2:44 AM, Clif Dawson wrote: I made them. I found a local outlet for mandrel bent steel tubing elbows and U's. I forget how much but not expensive so if you don't get it right the first time it's not a big expense. I bought a 6" channel piece from metalsupermarket, measured and drilled bolt holes from a cardboard template taken directly from the engine. I made up the front tube assembly with a long enough tube to go as far back as I wanted the exhaust to go with the straight part parallel to the flange.Then I fit the rear tube to that and it's flange. This part is really picky! Once that was fitted I marked all around that joint and cut out the straight tube to fit. Fiddled with this quite a bit too. This was spot welded then checked for fit on the engine. Once good and back on the jig it was fully welded. My welding is structuraly sound but not all that pretty so I filed and ground it till it was. It appears that wasn't such a great idea. :-) It looks real nice in the pics but isn't so hot in real life. Oh well. Oh yes, make sure your horizontal piping is parallel to the plane, not the engine if the engine is angled down at all. Clif ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Yocum" Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 11:40 AM Subject: exhaust manifold [was Re: Pietenpol-List: humped center section] Clif, I like the look of your exhaust pipes. Did you make your own or did you buy them from somewhere? Mine are starting to rust through, so I'll need new ones real soon... Thanks, Dan Clif Dawson wrote: I've also attached a pic of my throttle linkage and left side exhaust manifold. -- Dan Yocum Fermilab 630.840.6509 yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov Fermilab. Just zeros and ones. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 18:44:00 -- Rick Holland Castle Rock, Colorado "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message pietenpol-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pietenpol-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/pietenpol-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.