Pietenpol-List Digest Archive

Sun 11/01/09


Total Messages Posted: 21



Today's Message Index:
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     0. 12:16 AM - PLEASE READ - Matronics Email List Fund Raiser During November! (Matt Dralle)
     1. 02:48 AM - Re: First Taxi! (Gene & Tammy)
     2. 04:03 AM - Re: First Taxi! (Jack Phillips)
     3. 06:55 AM - Re: First Taxi! (Gary Boothe)
     4. 06:55 AM - Re: Gear strut clearance (steven sadler)
     5. 07:06 AM - Strut tubing sizes (Jack)
     6. 07:59 AM - Re: Strut tubing sizes (David Paule)
     7. 08:05 AM - Re: Strut tubing sizes (Don Emch)
     8. 08:50 AM - Re: Re: Strut tubing sizes (Jack)
     9. 08:54 AM - Re: Re: Strut tubing sizes (Jack)
    10. 08:55 AM - A cool monring flight (Gene & Tammy)
    11. 09:16 AM - Re: A cool monring flight (Jack Phillips)
    12. 09:21 AM - Re: A cool monring flight (Jack)
    13. 09:46 AM - Re: A cool monring flight (Gene & Tammy)
    14. 09:59 AM - Re: A cool monring flight (Jack Phillips)
    15. 10:23 AM - Re: Strut tubing sizes (Don Emch)
    16. 02:54 PM - Re: Re: Strut tubing sizes (steven sadler)
    17. 03:54 PM - Re: Strut tubing sizes (Skip Gadd)
    18. 03:54 PM - She flys! (Skip Gadd)
    19. 05:02 PM - Re: She flys! (Gary Boothe)
    20. 07:04 PM - Re: She flys! (Rick Holland)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:16:29 AM PST US
    From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
    Subject: PLEASE READ - Matronics Email List Fund Raiser During
    November! Dear Listers, Each November I hold a PBS-like fund raiser to support the continued operation and upgrade of the List services at Matronics. It's solely through the Contributions of List members that these Matronics Lists are possible. There is NO advertising to support the Lists. You might have noticed the conspicuous lack of flashing banners and annoying pop-ups on the Matronics Email List email messages and web site pages such as the Matronics List Forums ( http://forums.matronics.com ), the List Wiki ( http://wiki.matronics.com), or other related pages such as the List Search Engine ( http://www.matronics.com/search ), the List Browser ( http://www.matronics.com/listbrowse ), etc. This is because I believe in a List experience that is completely about the sport we all enjoy - namely Airplanes and not about annoying advertisements. During the month of November I will be sending out List messages every couple of days reminding everyone that the Fund Raiser is underway. I ask for your patience and understanding during the Fund Raiser and throughout these regular messages. The Fund Raiser is only financial support mechanism I have to pay all of the bills associated with running these lists. Your personal Contribution counts! Once again, this year I've got a terrific line up of free gifts to go along with the various Contribution levels. Most all of these gifts have been provided by some of the vary members and vendors that you'll find on Matronics Lists and have been either donated or provided at substantially discounted rates. This year, these generous people include Bob Nuckolls of the AeroElectric Connection (http://www.aeroelectric.com/), Andy Gold of the Builder's Bookstore (http://www.buildersbooks.com/), and Jon Croke of HomebuiltHELP (http://www.homebuilthelp.com/). These are extremely generous guys and I encourage you to visit their respective web sites. Each one offers a unique and very useful aviation-related product line. I would like publicly to thank Bob, Andy, and Jon for their generous support of the Lists again this year!! You can make your List Contribution using any one of three secure methods this year including using a credit card, PayPal, or by personal check. All three methods afford you the opportunity to select one of this year's free gifts with a qualifying Contribution amount!! To make your Contribution, please visit the secure site below: http://www.matronics.com/contribution I would like to thank everyone in advance for their generous financial AND moral support over the years! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator


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    Time: 02:48:11 AM PST US
    From: "Gene & Tammy" <zharvey@bentoncountycable.net>
    Subject: Re: First Taxi!
    Way to go Ben! Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ben Charvet" <bcharvet@bellsouth.net> Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 7:54 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: First Taxi! > > Today I finally got everything ready for the first taxi. I ended up > moving my wing back 4 inches to meet weight and balance, and that > required replacing one of the cross cables between the aft cabanes > because to many threads were showing on the turnbuckle. By the time I > had it ready to taxi it was 1:30 and the airport was pretty much > deserted. I've installed a new Vertex hand-held, and since I have > non-sheilded harnesses on my mags I was worried about radio > interference. Well, I chained down the tail, chocked the wheels and > cranked it up. The radio seems to work perfectly with no engine noise > unless you turn the squelch way down. This was only a slow speed taxi, > but I went up and down the grass strip (1800 ft) at a brisk walking > pace, then ran it up and down the paved taxiway. The tailwheel cables > were a little loose, but thats an easy fix. > > I sent my airworthiness application in on Monday, so I'm anxious to get > it ready for the inspection. I've been flying a 54 year old Baby Ace > that is showing its age, so to taxi around in a new airplane I built > myself was quite a thrill. Hang in there builders.. ITS WORTH IT > > Ben Charvet > Mims, Fl > NX866BC > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 07:53:00


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    Time: 04:03:00 AM PST US
    From: "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: First Taxi!
    Way to go, Ben! Keep sending progress reports. It's great to see a new Pietenpol come to life. Jack Phillips NX899JP Raleigh, NC -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ben Charvet Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 9:55 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: First Taxi! Today I finally got everything ready for the first taxi. I ended up moving my wing back 4 inches to meet weight and balance, and that required replacing one of the cross cables between the aft cabanes because to many threads were showing on the turnbuckle. By the time I had it ready to taxi it was 1:30 and the airport was pretty much deserted. I've installed a new Vertex hand-held, and since I have non-sheilded harnesses on my mags I was worried about radio interference. Well, I chained down the tail, chocked the wheels and cranked it up. The radio seems to work perfectly with no engine noise unless you turn the squelch way down. This was only a slow speed taxi, but I went up and down the grass strip (1800 ft) at a brisk walking pace, then ran it up and down the paved taxiway. The tailwheel cables were a little loose, but thats an easy fix. I sent my airworthiness application in on Monday, so I'm anxious to get it ready for the inspection. I've been flying a 54 year old Baby Ace that is showing its age, so to taxi around in a new airplane I built myself was quite a thrill. Hang in there builders.. ITS WORTH IT Ben Charvet Mims, Fl NX866BC


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    Time: 06:55:00 AM PST US
    From: "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net>
    Subject: First Taxi!
    Good news, Ben!! Send out some pics, when you can... Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion, mounted Tail done, Fuselage on gear (15 ribs down.) Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ben Charvet Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 6:55 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: First Taxi! Today I finally got everything ready for the first taxi. I ended up moving my wing back 4 inches to meet weight and balance, and that required replacing one of the cross cables between the aft cabanes because to many threads were showing on the turnbuckle. By the time I had it ready to taxi it was 1:30 and the airport was pretty much deserted. I've installed a new Vertex hand-held, and since I have non-sheilded harnesses on my mags I was worried about radio interference. Well, I chained down the tail, chocked the wheels and cranked it up. The radio seems to work perfectly with no engine noise unless you turn the squelch way down. This was only a slow speed taxi, but I went up and down the grass strip (1800 ft) at a brisk walking pace, then ran it up and down the paved taxiway. The tailwheel cables were a little loose, but thats an easy fix. I sent my airworthiness application in on Monday, so I'm anxious to get it ready for the inspection. I've been flying a 54 year old Baby Ace that is showing its age, so to taxi around in a new airplane I built myself was quite a thrill. Hang in there builders.. ITS WORTH IT Ben Charvet Mims, Fl NX866BC


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    Time: 06:55:19 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Gear strut clearance
    From: steven sadler <steven244sadler@gmail.com>
    Jack, I had the same concerns as you. Here is how I mounted my springs. Seems to work, but I am not flying yet. I couldn't think of any reason why a high mount would be any advantage other than slightly less drag down low. Compared to the air resistance of the wheels it should be insignificant. Steve On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 11:45 AM, Jack <jack@textors.com> wrote: > I plan to stagger the gear strut attach points to allow clearance where > they cross. Also think I will mount the strut springs down low like the > attached picture. Does it seem like this will work? > > Thanks, > > Jack > > DSM > >


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    Time: 07:06:34 AM PST US
    From: "Jack" <jack@textors.com>
    Subject: Strut tubing sizes
    Still working on the particulars of my struts. Tying to determine the correct size and thickness of the tubing to order. Of the 3 diagrams I've looked at, the sizes differ. For the inside tube to slide freely within the outside tube how much clearance (difference) should I have? The HV Design has .06 clearance. Bingelis clearance is .009. The Debolt drawing is also .009 which seems tight. Wish I hade the tubing on-hand so I could try. Then I just need to figure the springs! Thanks! Jack DSM


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    Time: 07:59:27 AM PST US
    From: "David Paule" <dpaule@frii.com>
    Subject: Re: Strut tubing sizes
    Don't forget to allow for paint. David Paule From: Jack Still working on the particulars of my struts. Tying to determine the correct size and thickness of the tubing to order. Of the 3 diagrams I've looked at, the sizes differ. For the inside tube to slide freely within the outside tube how much clearance (difference) should I have? The HV Design has .06 clearance. Bingelis clearance is .009. The Debolt drawing is also .009 which seems tight. Wish I hade the tubing on-hand so I could try. Then I just need to figure the springs! Thanks! Jack DSM


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    Time: 08:05:49 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Strut tubing sizes
    From: "Don Emch" <EmchAir@aol.com>
    Hey Jack, I guess I'm not familiar with the "HV Design" and the "Debolt Drawing", and I don't remember what the plans call for. I can check my plans and see what it calls for and translate to decimal wall thickness. Off the top of my head though, .060" would be a huge amount of clearance fit. The .009" dimension sounds much better. Don Emch NX899DE Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=270442#270442


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    Time: 08:50:32 AM PST US
    From: "Jack" <jack@textors.com>
    Subject: Re: Strut tubing sizes
    Don, David and Steven, Thanks a bunch for the good thoughts! Never even thought about paint. Steven do you remember the tubing sizes and thickness for your gear? Jack DSM Hey Jack, I guess I'm not familiar with the "HV Design" and the "Debolt Drawing", and I don't remember what the plans call for. I can check my plans and see what it calls for and translate to decimal wall thickness. Off the top of my head though, .060" would be a huge amount of clearance fit. The .009" dimension sounds much better. Don Emch NX899DE Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=270442#270442 Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 07:38:00


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    Time: 08:54:48 AM PST US
    From: "Jack" <jack@textors.com>
    Subject: Re: Strut tubing sizes
    Here are the drawings... Jack DSM Hey Jack, I guess I'm not familiar with the "HV Design" and the "Debolt Drawing", and I don't remember what the plans call for. I can check my plans and see what it calls for and translate to decimal wall thickness. Off the top of my head though, .060" would be a huge amount of clearance fit. The .009" dimension sounds much better. Don Emch NX899DE Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=270442#270442 Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 07:38:00


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    Time: 08:55:02 AM PST US
    From: "Gene & Tammy" <zharvey@bentoncountycable.net>
    Subject: A cool monring flight
    Tennessee has had more than it's fair share of wind and rain this year, making it iffy for having a good day for flying when I had the day off. Got some time in last night, but it was windy and landing was with a 90 degree cross wind. Forcast for today was clear with wind 5 to 10. Showed up at the airport shortly after sunrise. Sky was severe clear, no wind and the temp was 32 degrees. N502R seemed as eager as I, and started on the first flip of the prop. Spent more time than normal warming up the engine, then taxied to runway 4. As I taxied out I noticed that the WWF's ("warm weather flyers") were all setting inside the FBO, probably bitching about the cold weather. The Ol' Piet and I spent a little over an hour in the air. Me, just enjoying flying and the beautiful fall colors and the Ol' Piet obviously pretending that she was a Super Cub, climbing like a home sick angel in the cool air. Made my landing (not the best I've ever made but not the worst either) and taxied to my hanger (the WWF's were still sitting in the FBO). I wouldn't have missed that flight for anything. What a day! I really encourage Piet owners not to put their planes away during cool weather, but to get out and enjoy the great flying that cool weather brings. Your Piet will love you for it. If you have questions about what to wear for warmth and what to do to preheat the engine, there are plenty of cool weather flyers here on this list that will be glad to offer suggestions. Gene in Beautiful Tennessee N502R (just don't tell her she's not a Super Cub)


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    Time: 09:16:31 AM PST US
    From: "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: A cool monring flight
    Gene, I know all about the rain you've had. My RV-4 has been sitting in a hangar at MKL since October 8th. I flew it there to visit my Mom, and had to leave it and come home commercial because of the constant IFR conditions in west Tennessee, or over the mountains between there and Raleigh. I'm hoping to come get it this week. Jack Phillips NX899JP Raleigh, NC _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gene & Tammy Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 11:52 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: A cool monring flight Tennessee has had more than it's fair share of wind and rain this year, making it iffy for having a good day for flying when I had the day off. Got some time in last night, but it was windy and landing was with a 90 degree cross wind. Forcast for today was clear with wind 5 to 10. Showed up at the airport shortly after sunrise. Sky was severe clear, no wind and the temp was 32 degrees. N502R seemed as eager as I, and started on the first flip of the prop. Spent more time than normal warming up the engine, then taxied to runway 4. As I taxied out I noticed that the WWF's ("warm weather flyers") were all setting inside the FBO, probably bitching about the cold weather. The Ol' Piet and I spent a little over an hour in the air. Me, just enjoying flying and the beautiful fall colors and the Ol' Piet obviously pretending that she was a Super Cub, climbing like a home sick angel in the cool air. Made my landing (not the best I've ever made but not the worst either) and taxied to my hanger (the WWF's were still sitting in the FBO). I wouldn't have missed that flight for anything. What a day! I really encourage Piet owners not to put their planes away during cool weather, but to get out and enjoy the great flying that cool weather brings. Your Piet will love you for it. If you have questions about what to wear for warmth and what to do to preheat the engine, there are plenty of cool weather flyers here on this list that will be glad to offer suggestions. Gene in Beautiful Tennessee N502R (just don't tell her she's not a Super Cub)


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    Time: 09:21:04 AM PST US
    From: "Jack" <jack@textors.com>
    Subject: A cool monring flight
    Gene, Thoughts of enjoying the fall colors keep me building, thanks. Jack DSM Do not archive Tennessee has had more than it's fair share of wind and rain this year, making it iffy for having a good day for flying when I had the day off. Got some time in last night, but it was windy and landing was with a 90 degree cross wind. Forcast for today was clear with wind 5 to 10. Showed up at the airport shortly after sunrise. Sky was severe clear, no wind and the temp was 32 degrees. N502R seemed as eager as I, and started on the first flip of the prop. Spent more time than normal warming up the engine, then taxied to runway 4. As I taxied out I noticed that the WWF's ("warm weather flyers") were all setting inside the FBO, probably bitching about the cold weather. The Ol' Piet and I spent a little over an hour in the air. Me, just enjoying flying and the beautiful fall colors and the Ol' Piet obviously pretending that she was a Super Cub, climbing like a home sick angel in the cool air. Made my landing (not the best I've ever made but not the worst either) and taxied to my hanger (the WWF's were still sitting in the FBO). I wouldn't have missed that flight for anything. What a day! I really encourage Piet owners not to put their planes away during cool weather, but to get out and enjoy the great flying that cool weather brings. Your Piet will love you for it. If you have questions about what to wear for warmth and what to do to preheat the engine, there are plenty of cool weather flyers here on this list that will be glad to offer suggestions. Gene in Beautiful Tennessee N502R (just don't tell her she's not a Super Cub) 07:38:00


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    Time: 09:46:26 AM PST US
    From: "Gene & Tammy" <zharvey@bentoncountycable.net>
    Subject: Re: A cool monring flight
    Any chance you can make it to OM4? We have the cheapest fuel around (100LL $3.60 a gal.). Gene 731-336-6893 ----- Original Message ----- From: Jack Phillips To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 11:13 AM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: A cool monring flight Gene, I know all about the rain you've had. My RV-4 has been sitting in a hangar at MKL since October 8th. I flew it there to visit my Mom, and had to leave it and come home commercial because of the constant IFR conditions in west Tennessee, or over the mountains between there and Raleigh. I'm hoping to come get it this week. Jack Phillips NX899JP Raleigh, NC ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gene & Tammy Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 11:52 AM To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: A cool monring flight Tennessee has had more than it's fair share of wind and rain this year, making it iffy for having a good day for flying when I had the day off. Got some time in last night, but it was windy and landing was with a 90 degree cross wind. Forcast for today was clear with wind 5 to 10. Showed up at the airport shortly after sunrise. Sky was severe clear, no wind and the temp was 32 degrees. N502R seemed as eager as I, and started on the first flip of the prop. Spent more time than normal warming up the engine, then taxied to runway 4. As I taxied out I noticed that the WWF's ("warm weather flyers") were all setting inside the FBO, probably bitching about the cold weather. The Ol' Piet and I spent a little over an hour in the air. Me, just enjoying flying and the beautiful fall colors and the Ol' Piet obviously pretending that she was a Super Cub, climbing like a home sick angel in the cool air. Made my landing (not the best I've ever made but not the worst either) and taxied to my hanger (the WWF's were still sitting in the FBO). I wouldn't have missed that flight for anything. What a day! I really encourage Piet owners not to put their planes away during cool weather, but to get out and enjoy the great flying that cool weather brings. Your Piet will love you for it. If you have questions about what to wear for warmth and what to do to preheat the engine, there are plenty of cool weather flyers here on this list that will be glad to offer suggestions. Gene in Beautiful Tennessee N502R (just don't tell her she's not a Super Cub) www.aeroelectric.comwww.homebuilthelp.comhttp://www.matronics.com/contrib ution ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 11/01/09 07:38:00


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    Time: 09:59:25 AM PST US
    From: "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: A cool monring flight
    Doubtful. I'll refuel it with the FBO in Jackson, since they've kept it in their hangar for the last 3 weeks. Possible I might go on Tuesday and wait until Thursday to leave, so if I do that I might be able to stop in for a visit. I'd like to see your Pietenpol. Do you ever fly into MKL? Jack _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gene & Tammy Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 12:43 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: A cool monring flight Any chance you can make it to OM4? We have the cheapest fuel around (100LL $3.60 a gal.). Gene 731-336-6893 ----- Original Message ----- From: Jack <mailto:pietflyr@bellsouth.net> Phillips Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 11:13 AM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: A cool monring flight Gene, I know all about the rain you've had. My RV-4 has been sitting in a hangar at MKL since October 8th. I flew it there to visit my Mom, and had to leave it and come home commercial because of the constant IFR conditions in west Tennessee, or over the mountains between there and Raleigh. I'm hoping to come get it this week. Jack Phillips NX899JP Raleigh, NC _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gene & Tammy Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 11:52 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: A cool monring flight Tennessee has had more than it's fair share of wind and rain this year, making it iffy for having a good day for flying when I had the day off. Got some time in last night, but it was windy and landing was with a 90 degree cross wind. Forcast for today was clear with wind 5 to 10. Showed up at the airport shortly after sunrise. Sky was severe clear, no wind and the temp was 32 degrees. N502R seemed as eager as I, and started on the first flip of the prop. Spent more time than normal warming up the engine, then taxied to runway 4. As I taxied out I noticed that the WWF's ("warm weather flyers") were all setting inside the FBO, probably bitching about the cold weather. The Ol' Piet and I spent a little over an hour in the air. Me, just enjoying flying and the beautiful fall colors and the Ol' Piet obviously pretending that she was a Super Cub, climbing like a home sick angel in the cool air. Made my landing (not the best I've ever made but not the worst either) and taxied to my hanger (the WWF's were still sitting in the FBO). I wouldn't have missed that flight for anything. What a day! I really encourage Piet owners not to put their planes away during cool weather, but to get out and enjoy the great flying that cool weather brings. Your Piet will love you for it. If you have questions about what to wear for warmth and what to do to preheat the engine, there are plenty of cool weather flyers here on this list that will be glad to offer suggestions. Gene in Beautiful Tennessee N502R (just don't tell her she's not a Super Cub) www.aeroelectric.com www.homebuilthelp.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution href="http://www.aeroelectric.com">www.aeroelectric.com href="http://www.buildersbooks.com">www.buildersbooks.com href="http://www.homebuilthelp.com">www.homebuilthelp.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/chref "http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.matronics.com /Navigator?Pietenpol-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com _____ - Release Date: 11/01/09 07:38:00


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    Time: 10:23:44 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Strut tubing sizes
    From: "Don Emch" <EmchAir@aol.com>
    Jack, I like the Debolt drawing. I actually recognize that from a past Frank Pavliga Sr. newsletter. If I was doing springs that is how I would do it. .009" clearance fit is plenty, even with paint. That will soon wear off though. I'd just keep it greased up in there. Every now and then I think of making a spring gear for mine. Those bungees can be a real pain to wrap. I just like the "Pietenpol-ish" look to them though. Good luck! Don Emch NX899DE Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=270475#270475


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    Time: 02:54:33 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Strut tubing sizes
    From: steven sadler <steven244sadler@gmail.com>
    Jack, I used the drawing (and the exact tubing sizes) shown in the drawing "strut 2" that you posted. The main difference is that I made the long pieces from 5/8" tubing and the shorter ones from 3/4". Basically I reversed the drawing. I also used "U" shape ends as per the pietenpol drawings instead of the closed cylinder as shown on the right side end of the drawing "strut 2" so that the end would fit over the fittings from the piet drawings. The U shaped ends are fairly easy to make with a small hydraulic press and could probably be made with a vise as well. I can give you details of that if you want. On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 10:47 AM, Jack <jack@textors.com> wrote: > Here are the drawings... > Jack > DSM > > Hey Jack, > > I guess I'm not familiar with the "HV Design" and the "Debolt Drawing", and > I don't remember what the plans call for. I can check my plans and see > what > it calls for and translate to decimal wall thickness. Off the top of my > head though, .060" would be a huge amount of clearance fit. The .009" > dimension sounds much better. > > Don Emch > NX899DE > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=270442#270442 > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > 07:38:00 >


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    Time: 03:54:40 PM PST US
    From: "Skip Gadd" <skipgadd@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Strut tubing sizes
    Jack, Just use .058 tube for the outside tube and the next smaller size for the inside and it will work. I used .058 for both, but have not flown my Piet yet. Skip ----- Original Message ----- From: Jack Sent: 11/1/2009 10:15:25 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Strut tubing sizes Still working on the particulars of my struts. Tying to determine the correct size and thickness of the tubing to order. Of the 3 diagrams Ive looked at, the sizes differ. For the inside tube to slide freely within the outside tube how much clearance (difference) should I have? The HV Design has .06 clearance. Bingelis clearance is .009. The Debolt drawing is also .009 which seems tight. Wish I hade the tubing on-hand so I could try. Then I just need to figure the springs! Thanks! Jack DSM


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    Time: 03:54:46 PM PST US
    From: "Skip Gadd" <skipgadd@earthlink.net>
    Subject: She flys!
    Flew Ed deLancy's Piet N6926J today. Ed bought the plane, a one piece wing A65 Piet from northern MN. He brought it back to WV on a trailer just after Brodhead this past summer. The plane was reported to have one hour. He worked on the thing several hours a day from then till now to get it trimmed and in good flying shape. Ed is an A&P, IA, CFII and airline pilot but not much taildragger time so I did the honers. Did some tail up fast taxi work 2 days ago and told Ed it was ready to fly. We put the cowl on and waited for the wind to calm down, it never did. Today was clear as a bell and at about 4:30 PM about 50 degrees and winds almost nill. It was my plan to get the tail up and do a few more fast taxi's. The tail came up, pulled the throttle back a little to keep it on the runway and next thing I knew it was flying. I moved the stick very gently one side of center to the other to varify ailerons worked, they did so added back in some throttle. The plane flys great! The only problem was the little flapper thing on the pitot did not move so no airspeed. The Piet flys so much like my GN-1 that wasn't a problem. We will get that fixed and put some more time on it tomorrow. Hales Landing now has 2 flying Piets! Skip skipgadd@earthlink.net


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    Time: 05:02:17 PM PST US
    From: "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net>
    Subject: She flys!
    GOOD JOB, SKIP!!!! Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion, mounted Tail done, Fuselage on gear (15 ribs down.) Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Skip Gadd Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 3:30 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: She flys! Flew Ed deLancy's Piet N6926J today. Ed bought the plane, a one piece wing A65 Piet from northern MN. He brought it back to WV on a trailer just after Brodhead this past summer. The plane was reported to have one hour. He worked on the thing several hours a day from then till now to get it trimmed and in good flying shape. Ed is an A&P, IA, CFII and airline pilot but not much taildragger time so I did the honers. Did some tail up fast taxi work 2 days ago and told Ed it was ready to fly. We put the cowl on and waited for the wind to calm down, it never did. Today was clear as a bell and at about 4:30 PM about 50 degrees and winds almost nill. It was my plan to get the tail up and do a few more fast taxi's. The tail came up, pulled the throttle back a little to keep it on the runway and next thing I knew it was flying. I moved the stick very gently one side of center to the other to varify ailerons worked, they did so added back in some throttle. The plane flys great! The only problem was the little flapper thing on the pitot did not move so no airspeed. The Piet flys so much like my GN-1 that wasn't a problem. We will get that fixed and put some more time on it tomorrow. Hales Landing now has 2 flying Piets! Skip skipgadd@earthlink.net


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    Time: 07:04:27 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: She flys!
    From: Rick Holland <at7000ft@gmail.com>
    Congrats Skip, nice work. Rick On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 6:29 PM, Skip Gadd <skipgadd@earthlink.net> wrote: > > Flew Ed deLancy's Piet N6926J today. Ed bought the plane, a one piece wing > A65 Piet from northern MN. He brought it back to WV on a trailer just after > Brodhead this past summer. The plane was reported to have one hour. He > worked on the thing several hours a day from then till now to get it > trimmed and in good flying shape. Ed is an A&P, IA, CFII and airline pilot > but not much taildragger time so I did the honers. Did some tail up fast > taxi work 2 days ago and told Ed it was ready to fly. We put the cowl on > and waited for the wind to calm down, it never did. Today was clear as a > bell and at about 4:30 PM about 50 degrees and winds almost nill. It was my > plan to get the tail up and do a few more fast taxi's. The tail came up, > pulled the throttle back a little to keep it on the runway and next thing I > knew it was flying. I moved the stick very gently one side of center to the > other to varify ailerons worked, they did so added back in some throttle. > The plane flys great! The only problem was the little flapper thing on the > pitot did not move so no airspeed. The Piet flys so much like my GN-1 that > wasn't a problem. We will get that fixed and put some more time on it > tomorrow. > Hales Landing now has 2 flying Piets! > Skip > > > skipgadd@earthlink.net > > -- Rick Holland Castle Rock, Colorado "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"




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