Pietenpol-List Digest Archive

Mon 11/02/09


Total Messages Posted: 7



Today's Message Index:
----------------------
 
     1. 01:09 AM - Re: A cool monring flight (Gene & Tammy)
     2. 06:57 AM - Re: West System epoxy (chase143)
     3. 07:16 AM - no longer needed (Joe Czaplicki)
     4. 05:53 PM - 106 years ago today- Prelude to flight (helspersew@aol.com)
     5. 06:48 PM - Re: Re: West System epoxy (Robert Ray)
     6. 07:51 PM - Strut tubing sizes (Oscar Zuniga)
     7. 09:04 PM - Re: Re: West System epoxy (John Recine)
 
 
 


Message 1


  • INDEX
  • Back to Main INDEX
  • NEXT
  • Skip to NEXT Message
  • LIST
  • Reply to LIST Regarding this Message
  • SENDER
  • Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message
    Time: 01:09:31 AM PST US
    From: "Gene & Tammy" <zharvey@bentoncountycable.net>
    Subject: Re: A cool monring flight
    Normally stay out of controled airspace. Talked with Randy Bush last night and if all works out, I will fly down to Randy's field (close to MKL) and the two of us will meet you for coffee. Gene DO NOT ARCHIVE ----- Original Message ----- From: Jack Phillips To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 11:53 AM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: A cool monring flight Doubtful. I'll refuel it with the FBO in Jackson, since they've kept it in their hangar for the last 3 weeks. Possible I might go on Tuesday and wait until Thursday to leave, so if I do that I might be able to stop in for a visit. I'd like to see your Pietenpol. Do you ever fly into MKL? Jack


    Message 2


  • INDEX
  • Back to Main INDEX
  • PREVIOUS
  • Skip to PREVIOUS Message
  • NEXT
  • Skip to NEXT Message
  • LIST
  • Reply to LIST Regarding this Message
  • SENDER
  • Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message
    Time: 06:57:00 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: West System epoxy
    From: "chase143" <chase143@aol.com>
    Hello Fred, West System is good stuff (I use it often on my wooden boat). Just fyi, one issue which was brought to my attention and well worth understanding is Amine Blush, which is a waxy by product which occurs on the surface as the epoxy cures. West System is one of these epoxies, and in wooden boat circles, a common phenomenon we live with, but take precautions. Whenever attaching epoxy to epoxy, it should be cleaned off and then rough sanded first, otherwise adhesion may be compromised. A quick search on the internet will provide all the info anyone needs (if you are not already familiar). Nothing to get excited about, just something to be aware of. Its one reason I went with System 3, it does not produce Amine Blush by-product upon curing. Both good epoxies (IMHO), just fyi. Keep up the building! Steve Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=270574#270574


    Message 3


  • INDEX
  • Back to Main INDEX
  • PREVIOUS
  • Skip to PREVIOUS Message
  • NEXT
  • Skip to NEXT Message
  • LIST
  • Reply to LIST Regarding this Message
  • SENDER
  • Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message
    Time: 07:16:16 AM PST US
    From: Joe Czaplicki <fishin3@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: no longer needed
    Medical problems has curtailed my flying activities so it=99s time to part with a few items that have served me well. Thought I=99d offer them to the Pietenpol community first before they went on eBay.=0AI have a Magellan 315 GPS with aviation database, has windshield suction and cig lig hter power cord.=0AAlso have Icom ICA3 transciever with belt clip, extra ba ttery pak, cig lighter power cord, wall battery charger and headset adaptor . Both has owner user manuals. Both for $225 plus shipping


    Message 4


  • INDEX
  • Back to Main INDEX
  • PREVIOUS
  • Skip to PREVIOUS Message
  • NEXT
  • Skip to NEXT Message
  • LIST
  • Reply to LIST Regarding this Message
  • SENDER
  • Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message
    Time: 05:53:46 PM PST US
    Subject: 106 years ago today- Prelude to flight
    From: helspersew@aol.com
    >From the diary of Orville Wright: Saturday, October 31st, 1903 Kitty Hawk, N.C. Trussed skids under machine and began work on frame for tail. Wind light Sunday, November 1st, 1903 Will and Spratt made trip to woods. Birds have mostly left. Mr. Daniels of Life Savers Service visited us and brought letters from O. Chanute and Ka te. Mr. Chanute is to leave today for Washington, where he expects to meet Mr. Alexander. Wind light. (Note: The Wrights never "worked" on Sundays. This includes working on the ir machine or flight testing.) Monday, November 2nd, 1903 Began work of placing engine on machine, also uprights for screws. Telegra phed Mr. Chanute telling him that he and Mr. Alexander would be welcome to visit us after 5th of month. Wind still light. Probably 4 meters. Wilbur Wright to Octave Chanute (Telegram) Yourself and Mr. Alexander welcome after November 5th. Bring abundant bedd ing.


    Message 5


  • INDEX
  • Back to Main INDEX
  • PREVIOUS
  • Skip to PREVIOUS Message
  • NEXT
  • Skip to NEXT Message
  • LIST
  • Reply to LIST Regarding this Message
  • SENDER
  • Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message
    Time: 06:48:15 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: West System epoxy
    From: Robert Ray <rray032003@gmail.com>
    Raka is also a very low Amine if any, however the epoxy to epoxy joint should be sanded for adhesion, also I would not glue wood to aluminum with out fasteners like bolts screws or nails, the aluminum will corrode over the years under the epoxy and result in a weak joint. my 02 cents worth Russell On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 9:53 AM, chase143 <chase143@aol.com> wrote: > > Hello Fred, > West System is good stuff (I use it often on my wooden boat). Just fyi, o ne > issue which was brought to my attention and well worth understanding is > =93Amine Blush=94, which is a waxy by product which occurs on the surface as the > epoxy cures. West System is one of these epoxies, and in wooden boat > circles, a common phenomenon we live with, but take precautions. Wheneve r > attaching epoxy to epoxy, it should be cleaned off and then rough sanded > first, otherwise adhesion may be compromised. A quick search on the inter net > will provide all the info anyone needs (if you are not already familiar). > Nothing to get excited about, just something to be aware of. It=92s one r eason > I went with System 3, it does not produce Amine Blush by-product upon > curing. Both good epoxies (IMHO), just fyi. > Keep up the building! > Steve > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=270574#270574 > > =========== =========== =========== =========== > >


    Message 6


  • INDEX
  • Back to Main INDEX
  • PREVIOUS
  • Skip to PREVIOUS Message
  • NEXT
  • Skip to NEXT Message
  • LIST
  • Reply to LIST Regarding this Message
  • SENDER
  • Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message
    Time: 07:51:39 PM PST US
    From: Oscar Zuniga <taildrags@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Strut tubing sizes
    The gearlegs and spring struts on 41CC had paint on them but it goes pretty fast on the spring struts where one tube moves inside the other so don't worry about paint... just keep the clearances tight and grease up the fittings when you assemble them. As far as position of the springs or bungees on the struts, I prefer to keep things up and out of the way because I like flying off of grass and if the springs or anything else are down low on the gear legs, they pick up grass and dust. Just my preference, and apparently Corky's too. PS to Skip- I hope you gave a loud "YEEEHAAAAWWW!" as you flew that new Piet around the patch! It's great to see that new ones are taking to the air every day now. Oscar Zuniga Air Camper NX41CC San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net


    Message 7


  • INDEX
  • Back to Main INDEX
  • PREVIOUS
  • Skip to PREVIOUS Message
  • NEXT
  • Skip to NEXT Message
  • LIST
  • Reply to LIST Regarding this Message
  • SENDER
  • Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message
    Time: 09:04:04 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: West System epoxy
    From: "John Recine" <amsafetyc@aol.com>
    U3RhaW5sZXNzIGlzIGZvcmV2ZXINCg0KSm9obg0KDQpEbyBub3QgYXJjaGl2ZQ0KU2VudCBmcm9t IG15IFZlcml6b24gV2lyZWxlc3MgQmxhY2tCZXJyeQ0KDQotLS0tLU9yaWdpbmFsIE1lc3NhZ2Ut LS0tLQ0KRnJvbTogUm9iZXJ0IFJheSA8cnJheTAzMjAwM0BnbWFpbC5jb20+DQpEYXRlOiBNb24s IDIgTm92IDIwMDkgMjE6Mzg6MDIgDQpUbzogPHBpZXRlbnBvbC1saXN0QG1hdHJvbmljcy5jb20+ DQpTdWJqZWN0OiBSZTogUGlldGVucG9sLUxpc3Q6IFJlOiBXZXN0IFN5c3RlbSBlcG94eQ0KDQpS YWthIGlzIGFsc28gYSB2ZXJ5IGxvdyBBbWluZSBpZiBhbnksIGhvd2V2ZXIgdGhlIGVwb3h5IHRv IGVwb3h5DQpqb2ludCBzaG91bGQgYmUgc2FuZGVkIGZvciBhZGhlc2lvbiwgYWxzbyBJIHdvdWxk IG5vdCBnbHVlIHdvb2QgdG8gYWx1bWludW0NCndpdGggb3V0IGZhc3RlbmVycyBsaWtlIGJvbHRz IHNjcmV3cyBvciBuYWlscywgdGhlIGFsdW1pbnVtIHdpbGwgY29ycm9kZQ0Kb3ZlciB0aGUgeWVh cnMgdW5kZXIgdGhlIGVwb3h5IGFuZCByZXN1bHQgaW4gYSB3ZWFrIGpvaW50Lg0KDQpteSAwMiBj ZW50cyB3b3J0aA0KDQpSdXNzZWxsDQoNCk9uIE1vbiwgTm92IDIsIDIwMDkgYXQgOTo1MyBBTSwg Y2hhc2UxNDMgPGNoYXNlMTQzQGFvbC5jb20+IHdyb3RlOg0KDQo+IC0tPiBQaWV0ZW5wb2wtTGlz dCBtZXNzYWdlIHBvc3RlZCBieTogImNoYXNlMTQzIiA8Y2hhc2UxNDNAYW9sLmNvbT4NCj4NCj4g SGVsbG8gRnJlZCwNCj4gV2VzdCBTeXN0ZW0gaXMgZ29vZCBzdHVmZiAoSSB1c2UgaXQgb2Z0ZW4g b24gbXkgd29vZGVuIGJvYXQpLiBKdXN0IGZ5aSwgb25lDQo+IGlzc3VlIHdoaWNoIHdhcyBicm91 Z2h0IHRvIG15IGF0dGVudGlvbiBhbmQgd2VsbCB3b3J0aCB1bmRlcnN0YW5kaW5nIGlzDQo+IJNB bWluZSBCbHVzaJQsIHdoaWNoIGlzIGEgd2F4eSBieSBwcm9kdWN0IHdoaWNoIG9jY3VycyBvbiB0 aGUgc3VyZmFjZSBhcyB0aGUNCj4gZXBveHkgY3VyZXMuIFdlc3QgU3lzdGVtIGlzIG9uZSBvZiB0 aGVzZSBlcG94aWVzLCBhbmQgaW4gd29vZGVuIGJvYXQNCj4gY2lyY2xlcywgYSBjb21tb24gcGhl bm9tZW5vbiB3ZSBsaXZlIHdpdGgsIGJ1dCB0YWtlIHByZWNhdXRpb25zLiAgV2hlbmV2ZXINCj4g YXR0YWNoaW5nIGVwb3h5IHRvIGVwb3h5LCBpdCBzaG91bGQgYmUgY2xlYW5lZCBvZmYgYW5kIHRo ZW4gcm91Z2ggc2FuZGVkDQo+IGZpcnN0LCBvdGhlcndpc2UgYWRoZXNpb24gbWF5IGJlIGNvbXBy b21pc2VkLiBBIHF1aWNrIHNlYXJjaCBvbiB0aGUgaW50ZXJuZXQNCj4gd2lsbCBwcm92aWRlIGFs bCB0aGUgaW5mbyBhbnlvbmUgbmVlZHMgKGlmIHlvdSBhcmUgbm90IGFscmVhZHkgZmFtaWxpYXIp Lg0KPiBOb3RoaW5nIHRvIGdldCBleGNpdGVkIGFib3V0LCBqdXN0IHNvbWV0aGluZyB0byBiZSBh d2FyZSBvZi4gSXSScyBvbmUgcmVhc29uDQo+IEkgd2VudCB3aXRoIFN5c3RlbSAzLCBpdCBkb2Vz IG5vdCBwcm9kdWNlIEFtaW5lIEJsdXNoIGJ5LXByb2R1Y3QgdXBvbg0KPiBjdXJpbmcuIEJvdGgg Z29vZCBlcG94aWVzIChJTUhPKSwganVzdCBmeWkuDQo+IEtlZXAgdXAgdGhlIGJ1aWxkaW5nIQ0K PiBTdGV2ZQ0KPg0KPg0KPg0KPg0KPiBSZWFkIHRoaXMgdG9waWMgb25saW5lIGhlcmU6DQo+DQo+ IGh0dHA6Ly9mb3J1bXMubWF0cm9uaWNzLmNvbS92aWV3dG9waWMucGhwP3A9MjcwNTc0IzI3MDU3 NA0KPg0KPg0KPg0KPg0KPg0KPg0KPg0KPT09PT09PT09PT09DQo9PT09PT09PT09PT0NCj09PT09 PT09PT09PQ0KPT09PT09PT09PT09DQo+DQo+DQo+DQo+DQoNCg=




    Other Matronics Email List Services

  • Post A New Message
  •   pietenpol-list@matronics.com
  • UN/SUBSCRIBE
  •   http://www.matronics.com/subscription
  • List FAQ
  •   http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pietenpol-List.htm
  • Web Forum Interface To Lists
  •   http://forums.matronics.com
  • Matronics List Wiki
  •   http://wiki.matronics.com
  • 7-Day List Browse
  •   http://www.matronics.com/browse/pietenpol-list
  • Browse Pietenpol-List Digests
  •   http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list
  • Browse Other Lists
  •   http://www.matronics.com/browse
  • Live Online Chat!
  •   http://www.matronics.com/chat
  • Archive Downloading
  •   http://www.matronics.com/archives
  • Photo Share
  •   http://www.matronics.com/photoshare
  • Other Email Lists
  •   http://www.matronics.com/emaillists
  • Contributions
  •   http://www.matronics.com/contribution

    These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.

    -- Please support this service by making your Contribution today! --