Pietenpol-List Digest Archive

Thu 11/05/09


Total Messages Posted: 27



Today's Message Index:
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     0. 12:08 AM - Reminder (Matt Dralle)
     1. 04:02 AM - Vinyl gap seal for 3 pce. wing (Oscar Zuniga)
     2. 04:10 AM - Edge Trim (Oscar Zuniga)
     3. 05:59 AM - Re: Vinyl gap seal for 3 pce. wing (Jim Markle)
     4. 06:13 AM - Charlie Rubeck's ribs (Oscar Zuniga)
     5. 06:21 AM - Re: Charlie Rubeck's ribs (Scott Knowlton)
     6. 07:27 AM - Bending plywood (chase143)
     7. 07:28 AM - Re: Edge Trim (John Franklin)
     8. 07:45 AM - Re: Bending Plywood ()
     9. 07:49 AM - Re: Ed's Piet (Skip Gadd)
    10. 08:27 AM - Re: Bending plywood (Richard Schreiber)
    11. 08:39 AM - Re: Bending plywood (gboothe5@comcast.net)
    12. 10:53 AM - Re: Bending plywood (Lagowski Morrow)
    13. 11:33 AM - Re: Bending plywood (chase143)
    14. 12:05 PM - Re: Bending plywood (Michael Perez)
    15. 03:25 PM - Re Static port (G & R Hewitt)
    16. 03:46 PM - Re: Re Static port (K5YAC)
    17. 03:49 PM - Re: Re: Bending plywood (Gary Boothe)
    18. 04:03 PM - Vinyl gap seal for 3 pce. wing (Dave Abramson)
    19. 06:04 PM - Re: Re Static port (Lagowski Morrow)
    20. 06:10 PM - Re: Prop choices for Corvair (jerome bush)
    21. 06:54 PM - meeting with Jim Markle (Oscar Zuniga)
    22. 07:03 PM - Re: Bending plywood (John Franklin)
    23. 08:16 PM - Re: Prop choices for Corvair (jerome bush)
    24. 08:32 PM - Re: Bending plywood (Robert Ray)
    25. 08:34 PM - Re: Re: Bending plywood exelent (jorge lizarraga)
    26. 11:50 PM - Re: Vinyl gap seal for 3 pce. wing (Clif Dawson)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:08:11 AM PST US
    From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
    Subject: Reminder
    Dear Listers, Just a quick reminder that November is the annual List Fund Raiser. The Matronics Lists are 100% member supported and all of the operational costs are provided for my your Contributions during this time of the year. Your personal Contribution makes a difference and keeps all of the Matronics Email Lists and Forums completely ad-free. Please make your Contribution today to keep these services up and running! http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you in advance! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator


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    Time: 04:02:35 AM PST US
    From: Oscar Zuniga <taildrags@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Vinyl gap seal for 3 pce. wing
    Clif; VERY nice detail where your wing panels meet the center section! The wing gap covers on 41CC are simple enough, but each of them is in several pieces and each piece has multiple PK screws holding it in place, so a tight gap with just a push-in seal makes for a cleaner and simpler installation. Oscar Zuniga Air Camper NX41CC San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net


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    Time: 04:10:12 AM PST US
    From: Oscar Zuniga <taildrags@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Edge Trim
    John; I'm not sure what sort of edge trim you're looking for, but Corky used a very simple, effective, and affordable (and flexible, to follow curves) edge trim on the various cowling openings on 41CC. It's from JC Whitney and comes in a 20 ft. roll for $23.99 and is item no. 1JA890791 if you do a search on their website. It is available in black and white and will fit tightly over the edges of metal that is .030-.060" thick (they have more of this same stuff for thicker material, too). Like I say, it is flexible and can follow curves nicely. On 41CC it is on all the cowling openings where the cabanes poke through, where the engine pokes through, where the oil drain comes out the bottom, etc. Oscar Zuniga Air Camper NX41CC San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net


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    Time: 05:59:13 AM PST US
    From: Jim Markle <jim_markle@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Re: Vinyl gap seal for 3 pce. wing
    I think what's REALLY interesting about these pictures is Clif's "workshop". I have a wonderful 32X40 heated workshop. In contrast, when I went to visit Clif one winter....he had just spent the night before knocking the snow off the "roof" of his "shop". He works on his project right there under that tarp. I think that's pretty neat. You're my hero Clif. -----Original Message----- >From: Clif Dawson <CDAWSON5854@shaw.ca> >Sent: Nov 4, 2009 8:49 PM >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Vinyl gap seal for 3 pce. wing > >This is what I'm doing. The gap will be maybe 1/8". >The small cutout around the fitting will be on the >wing panel also. My flop goes right to the edge >and will not have the seal. The open areas will be >covered in lexan. > >Clif > >> Not sure if it will work with standard wing fitting setup. >> The gap on 41CC is considerably wider than the nominal 1/4" >> that the vinyl seal will fit into because there has to be >> enough of a gap to insert the wing attach bolts into the >> wing attach fittings and still get a wrench on the bolt >> head and nut to tighten. > >> Oscar Zuniga


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    Time: 06:13:01 AM PST US
    From: Oscar Zuniga <taildrags@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Charlie Rubeck's ribs
    Does anyone remember how much Charlie was selling his sets of Piet ribs for when he was still alive? Was it $300 for the set of 31 ribs? Oscar Zuniga Air Camper NX41CC San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net


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    Time: 06:21:09 AM PST US
    From: "Scott Knowlton " <flyingscott_k@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Charlie Rubeck's ribs
    Yes. I went to one of his rib forums in 03 and bought one for ten bucks to build my jig with. At the time he had a set and the fellow next to me at the forum bought them for 300. Scott K -----Original Message----- From: Oscar Zuniga <taildrags@hotmail.com> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Charlie Rubeck's ribs Does anyone remember how much Charlie was selling his sets of Piet ribs for when he was still alive? Was it $300 for the set of 31 ribs? Oscar Zuniga Air Camper NX41CC San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net <http://www.flysquirrel.net>


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    Time: 07:27:21 AM PST US
    Subject: Bending plywood
    From: "chase143" <chase143@aol.com>
    Working on my turtle back and looking ahead to attaching a 4-5" piece of 1/8" plywood over the stingers behind the cockpit, and at the rear where they meet. Do these need to be steamed, or does ply (Finnish Birch or Okoume) bend well enough not to require steaming? Just curious, not having cut the pieces yet. Thanks, Steve Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=271192#271192


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    Time: 07:28:29 AM PST US
    From: John Franklin <jbfjr@peoplepc.com>
    Subject: Re: Edge Trim
    Oscar, That's exactly what I was looking for, thanks! John F. -----Original Message----- >From: Oscar Zuniga <taildrags@hotmail.com> >Sent: Nov 5, 2009 7:08 AM >To: Pietenpol List <pietenpol-list@matronics.com> >Subject: Pietenpol-List: Edge Trim > > > >John; > >I'm not sure what sort of edge trim you're looking for, >but Corky used a very simple, effective, and affordable >(and flexible, to follow curves) edge trim on the various >cowling openings on 41CC. It's from JC Whitney and comes >in a 20 ft. roll for $23.99 and is item no. 1JA890791 if >you do a search on their website. It is available in >black and white and will fit tightly over the edges of >metal that is .030-.060" thick (they have more of this >same stuff for thicker material, too). Like I say, it >is flexible and can follow curves nicely. On 41CC it is >on all the cowling openings where the cabanes poke through, >where the engine pokes through, where the oil drain comes >out the bottom, etc. > >Oscar Zuniga >Air Camper NX41CC >San Antonio, TX >mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com >website at http://www.flysquirrel.net > > ________________________________________


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    Time: 07:45:52 AM PST US
    From: <dknoll@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: Bending Plywood
    Steve, You might want to consider using 1/16" plywood. It's easier to bend and weighs less. Lynn Knoll Wichita Corvair/Piet in the works


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    Time: 07:49:00 AM PST US
    From: "Skip Gadd" <skipgadd@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Ed's Piet
    Dan, Yeah, the report from the 200 hour Cub pilot who flew the plane for the 1 hour was that it was sensitive in pitch. We didn't know if there was something wrong with the rigging or maybe he had no experience with antique designs. It turned out they had so much tension (turnbuckles way too tight) in the elevator system that you had to put allot of pressure on the stick to move it fore and aft. Ed changed several things he didn't like, one was a lift strut that looked like it had been bent and made straight! He went over the plane very thoroughly, which is fine with me since I wound up flying it. Skip > Sounds like there was a > lot of work done to get it in a stable flying state, and I just don't > have the time to tinker... > Cheers! > Dan


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    Time: 08:27:12 AM PST US
    From: "Richard Schreiber" <lmforge@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Bending plywood
    Steve: I made mine out of 2 sheets of 1/16" plywood. Bent the first one cold and epoxied it in place. I let it cure overnight then laminated a second piece to the first. Worked well. Here are a couple of photos. Rick Schreiber > [Original Message] > From: chase143 <chase143@aol.com> > To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com> > Date: 11/5/2009 9:29:27 AM > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Bending plywood > > > Working on my turtle back and looking ahead to attaching a 4-5" piece of 1/8" plywood over the stingers behind the cockpit, and at the rear where they meet. Do these need to be steamed, or does ply (Finnish Birch or Okoume) bend well enough not to require steaming? Just curious, not having cut the pieces yet. > Thanks, > Steve > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=271192#271192 > >


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    Time: 08:39:48 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Bending plywood
    From: gboothe5@comcast.net
    Steve, All my turtle decks are 1/8" mahogany marine plywood. They are also 1 1/2" taller than plans, meaning that the radius is actually smaller. No steaming...just fit, glue, clamp and nail. You may see some pics at West Coast Pets, or I can send some tonight. Gary ------Original Message------ From: chase143 Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com ReplyTo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: Bending plywood Sent: Nov 5, 2009 7:26 AM Working on my turtle back and looking ahead to attaching a 4-5" piece of 1/8" plywood over the stingers behind the cockpit, and at the rear where they meet. Do these need to be steamed, or does ply (Finnish Birch or Okoume) bend well enough not to require steaming? Just curious, not having cut the pieces yet. Thanks, Steve Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=271192#271192 Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry


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    Time: 10:53:10 AM PST US
    From: "Lagowski Morrow" <jimdeb@charter.net>
    Subject: Re: Bending plywood
    I used 1/16" and it bent just fine. no steaming, a few clamps and T-88--Jim Lagowski ----- Original Message ----- From: "chase143" <chase143@aol.com> Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 10:26 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Bending plywood > > Working on my turtle back and looking ahead to attaching a 4-5" piece of > 1/8" plywood over the stingers behind the cockpit, and at the rear where > they meet. Do these need to be steamed, or does ply (Finnish Birch or > Okoume) bend well enough not to require steaming? Just curious, not having > cut the pieces yet. > Thanks, > Steve > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=271192#271192 > > >


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    Time: 11:33:18 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Bending plywood
    From: "chase143" <chase143@aol.com>
    Outstanding! Thanks guys. Great pictures and ideas. I'll check out WC Piet as well. But sounds like no steaming and maybe 1/16 is the way to go, hopefully this weekend. Thanks again, Steve Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=271236#271236


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    Time: 12:05:15 PM PST US
    From: Michael Perez <speedbrake@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Re: Bending plywood
    Timely post as I am also gluing in my turtle deck stringers and planning my plywood overlay at both ends. My stringers, as viewed from the ends, are b ullet shaped. The "pointed" edge is what the fabric will rest on. I hope th is will give a nicer look then the wide look of each piece had I left them all flat. Because of a planning error, mine are all 1/2" wide. So, I routed them to a bullet shape on the fabric side.- I can supply pictures if any one has an interest. - I plan on using 2 sheets of laminated 1/16" okume as posted by someone else .


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    Time: 03:25:21 PM PST US
    From: "G & R Hewitt" <grhewitt@globaldial.com>
    Subject: Re Static port
    Any info on position of Pitot Static ports please. Is just using a drilled plug on the back of the ASI/Altimeter OK for an open cockpit? Regards Graham


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    Time: 03:46:13 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Re Static port
    From: "K5YAC" <hangar10@cox.net>
    Should be... it's also ok for use in a closed non-pressurized cockpit. At least that is where backup static pressure is located. Right? -------- Mark - working on wings Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=271266#271266


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    Time: 03:49:37 PM PST US
    From: "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Bending plywood
    Steve, Here a couple pics of turtle decks made out of 1/8" Plywood.no steaming! Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion, mounted Tail done, Fuselage on gear (15 ribs down.) -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of chase143 Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 11:33 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Bending plywood Outstanding! Thanks guys. Great pictures and ideas. I'll check out WC Piet as well. But sounds like no steaming and maybe 1/16 is the way to go, hopefully this weekend. Thanks again, Steve Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=271236#271236


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    Time: 04:03:46 PM PST US
    From: "Dave Abramson" <davea@symbolicdisplays.com>
    Subject: Vinyl gap seal for 3 pce. wing
    Hey Cliff! (Dawson) Do you have any pictures of your wing tank before install? You read my mind perfectly!!! Dave -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Clif Dawson Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 6:49 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Vinyl gap seal for 3 pce. wing This is what I'm doing. The gap will be maybe 1/8". The small cutout around the fitting will be on the wing panel also. My flop goes right to the edge and will not have the seal. The open areas will be covered in lexan. Clif > Not sure if it will work with standard wing fitting setup. > The gap on 41CC is considerably wider than the nominal 1/4" > that the vinyl seal will fit into because there has to be > enough of a gap to insert the wing attach bolts into the > wing attach fittings and still get a wrench on the bolt > head and nut to tighten. > > Oscar Zuniga


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    Time: 06:04:40 PM PST US
    From: "Lagowski Morrow" <jimdeb@charter.net>
    Subject: Re: Re Static port
    My plug with a hole works fine--Jim Lagowski ----- Original Message ----- From: G & R Hewitt To: Pietenpol-List Digest Server Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 5:17 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re Static port Any info on position of Pitot Static ports please. Is just using a drilled plug on the back of the ASI/Altimeter OK for an open cockpit? Regards Graham


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    Time: 06:10:07 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Prop choices for Corvair
    From: "jerome bush" <dutchman77@gmail.com>
    I have a never used Hegy 66X30 prop that I no longer can use and is for sale. If you are interested in it, contact me off list at jjbush@gmail.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=271283#271283


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    Time: 06:54:11 PM PST US
    From: Oscar Zuniga <taildrags@hotmail.com>
    Subject: meeting with Jim Markle
    I was fortunate to be able to meet with Jim Markle after he completed his business here in San Antonio today. Jim exemplifies the classic Pietenpoler, from his enthusiasm for building and flying, to his propensity to tell tall tales. Jim shared some of the video clips that he took at Brodhead this year (Mike Cuy's landing was near-perfect; Frank Pavliga's was awesomely short). Jim even paid for my beer, which was a very generous move. I checked my pockets after I left and still had my valuables, so I think he's been reformed ;o) However, Jim tends to make things up or stretch the truth a bit. He may make a wild claim or two about some secret project I'm working on... pure fabrication. He had too much time on his hands to sit around the hotel waiting for me, so he cooked up a wild story. The beer didn't help, either. We did talk about progress that he's making on his project, and it was great to sit and talk with someone who is clearly stoked about completing his Piet. Nice guy, Jim, but full of tall tales, too. Thanks for the beer, Jim, but no matter what you say now, your credibility is shot ;o) do not archive Oscar Zuniga Air Camper NX41CC San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net


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    Time: 07:03:48 PM PST US
    From: John Franklin <jbfjr@peoplepc.com>
    Subject: Re: Bending plywood
    Piet Builders, I haven't tried this, but years ago I read about how wooden model ship builders would bend the planks that had to fit the curve of the bows of their model ships; they would soak them in a solution of one part ammonia to two parts of water. As I said, I have never tried this method but it supposedly made the wood very easy to bend. John F. Richmond, TX -----Original Message----- >From: gboothe5@comcast.net >Sent: Nov 5, 2009 11:38 AM >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Bending plywood > > >Steve, > >All my turtle decks are 1/8" mahogany marine plywood. They are also 1 1/2" taller than plans, meaning that the radius is actually smaller. No steaming...just fit, glue, clamp and nail. You may see some pics at West Coast Pets, or I can send some tonight. > >Gary >------Original Message------ >From: chase143 >Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >ReplyTo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Subject: Pietenpol-List: Bending plywood >Sent: Nov 5, 2009 7:26 AM > > >Working on my turtle back and looking ahead to attaching a 4-5" piece of 1/8" plywood over the stingers behind the cockpit, and at the rear where they meet. Do these need to be steamed, or does ply (Finnish Birch or Okoume) bend well enough not to require steaming? Just curious, not having cut the pieces yet. >Thanks, >Steve > > >Read this topic online here: > >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=271192#271192 > > >Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > ________________________________________


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    Time: 08:16:25 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Prop choices for Corvair
    From: "jerome bush" <dutchman77@gmail.com>
    Sorry, but I gave the wrong email address in the previous message regarding the Hegy prop for sale. My correct address is dutchman77@gmail.com Contact me at the corrected address if you are interested in buying the Hegy 66X30 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=271297#271297


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    Time: 08:32:15 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Bending plywood
    From: Robert Ray <rray032003@gmail.com>
    You can bend it dry or bend it more if wet, boiling water works good on Okume and birch, I have also heard of adding ammonia when bending birch however I never found a need to add it. It bends easier with outside grain perpendicular to the bend radius. Another trick on leading edge of wing is heat up a metal pipe lay the wet plywood across and bend using weights clamped to hold the edges of the ply down. The plywood will dry out and you can't tell it's been wet other than a slight raise of the grain which you just sand out. Also to avoid oil canning and starved horse look is to dampen the sides of the fuselage ply before glue and clamping, this relaxes the outside and when it drys it will pull it tight. I have bent 4 mm Okume but I think thats about the limit with out kerfs. Russell Russell On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 9:21 PM, John Franklin <jbfjr@peoplepc.com> wrote: > > Piet Builders, > > I haven't tried this, but years ago I read about how wooden model ship > builders would bend the planks that had to fit the curve of the bows of > their model ships; they would soak them in a solution of one part ammonia to > two parts of water. As I said, I have never tried this method but it > supposedly made the wood very easy to bend. > > John F. > Richmond, TX > > -----Original Message----- > >From: gboothe5@comcast.net > >Sent: Nov 5, 2009 11:38 AM > >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > >Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Bending plywood > > > > > >Steve, > > > >All my turtle decks are 1/8" mahogany marine plywood. They are also 1 1/2" > taller than plans, meaning that the radius is actually smaller. No > steaming...just fit, glue, clamp and nail. You may see some pics at West > Coast Pets, or I can send some tonight. > > > >Gary > >------Original Message------ > >From: chase143 > >Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > >ReplyTo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > >Subject: Pietenpol-List: Bending plywood > >Sent: Nov 5, 2009 7:26 AM > > > > > >Working on my turtle back and looking ahead to attaching a 4-5" piece of > 1/8" plywood over the stingers behind the cockpit, and at the rear where > they meet. Do these need to be steamed, or does ply (Finnish Birch or > Okoume) bend well enough not to require steaming? Just curious, not having > cut the pieces yet. > >Thanks, > >Steve > > > > > > > > > >Read this topic online here: > > > >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=271192#271192 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________ > >


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    Time: 08:34:56 PM PST US
    From: jorge lizarraga <flightwood@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Bending plywood exelent
    that is bery good Idea Gary tanks I take and put in my plane too=C2- look bery nice to my seyou nex jorge from hanford, todays work in welding think s --- On Thu, 11/5/09, Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote: From: Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net> Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Bending plywood =0A=0A=0A =0A =0A=0A =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ASteve, =0A=0A =C2- =0A=0AHer e a couple pics of turtle decks made out of 1/8=9D Plywoodno =0Asteaming! =0A=0A =C2- =0A=0A =0A=0A =C2- =0A=0A =0A=0A =C2- =0A=0A Gary Boothe =0A=0ACool, Ca. =0A=0APietenpol =0A=0AWW Corvair Conversion, mo unted =0A=0ATail done, Fuselage on gear =0A=0A(15 ribs down) =0A =0A-----Original Message----- =0AFrom: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com=0A[mailto:owner-pietenpo l-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of chase143 =0ASent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 11:33 AM =0ATo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com =0ASubject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Bending plywood=0A=0A =C2- =0A=0A--> Piet enpol-List message posted by: "chase143"=0A<chase143@aol.com> =0A=0A =C2- =0A=0AOutstanding! Thanks guys. Great pictures and ideas. I'll check out W C=0APiet as well. But sounds like no steaming and maybe 1/16 is the way to go,=0Ahopefully this weekend. =0A=0AThanks again, =0A=0ASteve =0A=0A =C2- =0A=0A =C2- =0A=0A =C2- =0A=0A =C2- =0A=0ARead this topic online her e: =0A=0A =C2- =0A=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=271236 #271236 =0A=0A =C2- =0A=0A =C2- =0A=0A =C2- =0A=0A =C2- =0A=0A =C2 - =0A=0A =C2- =0A=0A =C2- =0A=0A =0A=0A =0A=0A =0A=0A =0A=0A =0A=0A =0A=0A =0A=0A =0A=0A =0A=0A =0A=0A =0A=0A =0A=0A =0A=0A =C2- =0A=0A =C2 - =0A=0A=0A=0A =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A


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    Time: 11:50:03 PM PST US
    From: "Clif Dawson" <CDAWSON5854@shaw.ca>
    Subject: Re: Vinyl gap seal for 3 pce. wing
    Well, thank you Jim. That is a compliment indeed coming from someone who has been of so much help to so many of us. Clif > > I think what's REALLY interesting about these pictures is Clif's > "workshop". I have a wonderful 32X40 heated workshop. In contrast, when > I went to visit Clif one winter....he had just spent the night before > knocking the snow off the "roof" of his "shop". He works on his project > right there under that tarp. > > I think that's pretty neat. > > You're my hero Clif. >




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