---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 11/06/09: 31 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:53 AM - Re: Vinyl gap seal for 3 pce. wing (Clif Dawson) 2. 12:53 AM - Re: Vinyl gap seal for 3 pce. wing (Clif Dawson) 3. 12:59 AM - Re: Re: Bending plywood (Clif Dawson) 4. 04:39 AM - wing gap seals (Douwe Blumberg) 5. 06:04 AM - Rubeck Ribs (tbyh@aol.com) 6. 06:04 AM - Fw: Re: Bending plywood (Michael Perez) 7. 06:14 AM - Re: Re: Bending plywood exelent (Gary Boothe) 8. 06:24 AM - Re: Re: Bending plywood (Gary Boothe) 9. 08:41 AM - Re: Re: Bending plywood (Bill Church) 10. 08:50 AM - Re: Re: Bending plywood (Gary Boothe) 11. 08:59 AM - Re: Re: Bending plywood (Michael Perez) 12. 09:14 AM - Yet another reason to hate me... (Ryan Mueller) 13. 09:14 AM - Mike Perez's workshop (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]) 14. 09:28 AM - Re: Yet another reason to hate me... (Bill Church) 15. 09:51 AM - Re: Yet another reason to hate me... (Ryan Mueller) 16. 09:55 AM - Yet another reason to hate me... (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]) 17. 09:55 AM - Re: Yet another reason to hate me... (Michael Perez) 18. 09:55 AM - Re: Yet another reason to hate me... (Gary Boothe) 19. 12:14 PM - Re: Re: Bending plywood (H RULE) 20. 12:59 PM - Yet another reason to hate me... (Oscar Zuniga) 21. 01:11 PM - Re: Yet another reason to hate me... (Gary Boothe) 22. 01:35 PM - Re: Yet another reason to hate me... (Ryan Mueller) 23. 02:32 PM - Re: Re Static port (Dan Yocum) 24. 02:48 PM - Re: Re Static port (Gene & Tammy) 25. 03:54 PM - Re: Yet another reason to hate me... (airlion) 26. 04:53 PM - Re: Yet another reason to hate me... (Jack Phillips) 27. 05:54 PM - Re: Yet another reason to hate me... (Gary Boothe) 28. 07:34 PM - Re: Yet another reason to hate me... (K5YAC) 29. 08:05 PM - Re: Vinyl gap seal for 3 pce. wing.ok (jorge lizarraga) 30. 08:11 PM - Re: Re: Bending plywood.exelent (jorge lizarraga) 31. 11:18 PM - Re: Re: Bending plywood.exelent (Clif Dawson) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:53:53 AM PST US From: "Clif Dawson" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Vinyl gap seal for 3 pce. wing OK, here's a few. First the plug ready to fiberglass the bottom. I positioned the basic plug in the wing where I wanted it, surounded it with a single piece of matt board and glued that to the plug with spray foam insulation. That cap I got at Arlington for ten bucks. It's $335 in AS+S! I made the fitting for it. The last pic shows the final layout. The fuel line is just sitting there. I need a couple of nut inserts before flairing and bending it to fit. Clif > > Hey Cliff! (Dawson) > > Do you have any pictures of your wing tank before install? > You read my mind perfectly!!! > > Dave ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 12:53:56 AM PST US From: "Clif Dawson" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Vinyl gap seal for 3 pce. wing They say necessity is the mother of invention. When I checked the 37 flair tools at a hundred bucks I just couldn't justify that for two lousy ends! So I simply made a head to fit over my standard plumbing one. Seems to work fine. This combo lathe-mill I agonized over buying on sale for $1000 ( regular $1800! ) has paid for itself at least once already! I walk in looking for 3/8" X 23 gauge pins and walk out with this thing. Damn good thing I'm no longer married! Clif > Hey Cliff! (Dawson) > > Do you have any pictures of your wing tank before install? > You read my mind perfectly!!! > > Dave ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 12:59:51 AM PST US From: "Clif Dawson" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Bending plywood Here's what I did. First I filled in and contoured the area with really light and thick balsa then, using water based contact cement, glued on 1/32 ply for a hard surface. My thinking was that I was going to be putting weight on that area every time I got in or out so I wanted the solidity of bulk but I also wanted the thinness where the ply overlay the stringers so there wouldn't be a significant bump in the fabric. Yes I know, there's a certain amount of anal involved! I just can't help it. :-) Clif ----- Original Message ----- From: Gary Boothe To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 3:21 PM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Bending plywood Steve, Here a couple pics of turtle decks made out of 1/8" Plywood.no steaming! Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion, mounted Tail done, Fuselage on gear (15 ribs down.) -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of chase143 Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 11:33 AM To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Bending plywood Outstanding! Thanks guys. Great pictures and ideas. I'll check out WC Piet as well. But sounds like no steaming and maybe 1/16 is the way to go, hopefully this weekend. Thanks again, Steve Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=271236#271236 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 11/05/09 19:52:00 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 04:39:40 AM PST US From: Douwe Blumberg Subject: Pietenpol-List: wing gap seals Just read the kudos for Cliff's center section gap seal idea, but I can't find what he did. Cliff, can you explain your method, or tell me where I can see some pics. I'm getting ready to make mine. Thanks Douwe ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:04:03 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Rubeck Ribs From: tbyh@aol.com Yes, Charlie Rubeck sold sets of ribs for $300...considering the hours and materials, he was working for way less than minimum wage! I would advise anyone who has an opportunity to buy a set of completed ribs (assuming th ey are well built), should buy 'em poste haste! Meanwhile, we all miss Charlie and remember him... Fred B. La Crosse, WI ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:04:03 AM PST US From: Michael Perez Subject: Fw: Re: Pietenpol-List: Bending plywood -The first picture shows the stringers with the flat 1/2" wide tops...ugl y under the fabric in my opinion. The second is the new shaped profile. The third is the stringers with the new profile.-These pictures were taken w ith the stringers just laid in place...nothing is attached or glued. I am n ow working on that...should have them all in tomorrow. - - ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 06:14:08 AM PST US From: "Gary Boothe" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Bending plywood exelent Jorge, Glad to hear you are welding..that means PROGRESS!! Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion, mounted Tail done, Fuselage on gear (15 ribs down.) Do not archive _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jorge lizarraga Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 8:35 PM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Bending plywood exelent that is bery good Idea Gary tanks I take and put in my plane too look bery nice to my seyou nex jorge from hanford, todays work in welding thinks --- On Thu, 11/5/09, Gary Boothe wrote: From: Gary Boothe Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Bending plywood Steve, Here a couple pics of turtle decks made out of 1/8" Plywood.no steaming! Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion, mounted Tail done, Fuselage on gear (15 ribs down.) -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of chase143 Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 11:33 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Bending plywood Outstanding! Thanks guys. Great pictures and ideas. I'll check out WC Piet as well. But sounds like no steaming and maybe 1/16 is the way to go, hopefully this weekend. Thanks again, Steve Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=271236#271236 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 06:24:21 AM PST US From: "Gary Boothe" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Bending plywood Great idea, Cliff! Plus, you did not have to struggle to get varnish under all that plywood! Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion, mounted Tail done, Fuselage on gear (15 ribs down.) Do not archive _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Clif Dawson Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 12:06 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Bending plywood Here's what I did. First I filled in and contoured the area with really light and thick balsa then, using water based contact cement, glued on 1/32 ply for a hard surface. My thinking was that I was going to be putting weight on that area every time I got in or out so I wanted the solidity of bulk but I also wanted the thinness where the ply overlay the stringers so there wouldn't be a significant bump in the fabric. Yes I know, there's a certain amount of anal involved! I just can't help it. :-) Clif ----- Original Message ----- From: Gary Boothe Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 3:21 PM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Bending plywood Steve, Here a couple pics of turtle decks made out of 1/8" Plywood.no steaming! Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion, mounted Tail done, Fuselage on gear (15 ribs down.) -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of chase143 Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 11:33 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Bending plywood Outstanding! Thanks guys. Great pictures and ideas. I'll check out WC Piet as well. But sounds like no steaming and maybe 1/16 is the way to go, hopefully this weekend. Thanks again, Steve Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=271236#271236 _____ - Release Date: 11/05/09 19:52:00 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 08:41:19 AM PST US Subject: RE: Re: Pietenpol-List: Bending plywood From: "Bill Church" Just a useless comment here... but, doesn't your wife get annoyed when you build your airplane in the kitchen? Then again, based on the tire marks, if she's okay with you working on the car in the kitchen, then a little woodworking should be no problem... Seriously, though... Is that your workshop? I can see the reflection of the cabinets in the floor! A little more luxurious than Clif's "workshop". ________________________________ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael Perez Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 8:54 AM Subject: Fw: Re: Pietenpol-List: Bending plywood The first picture shows the stringers with the flat 1/2" wide tops...ugly under the fabric in my opinion. The second is the new shaped profile. The third is the stringers with the new profile. These pictures were taken with the stringers just laid in place...nothing is attached or glued. I am now working on that...should have them all in tomorrow. ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 08:50:55 AM PST US From: "Gary Boothe" Subject: RE: Re: Pietenpol-List: Bending plywood I think Michael uses Photoshop. Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion, mounted Tail done, Fuselage on gear (15 ribs down.) Do not archive _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Church Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 8:35 AM Subject: RE: Re: Pietenpol-List: Bending plywood Just a useless comment here... but, doesn't your wife get annoyed when you build your airplane in the kitchen? Then again, based on the tire marks, if she's okay with you working on the car in the kitchen, then a little woodworking should be no problem... Seriously, though... Is that your workshop? I can see the reflection of the cabinets in the floor! A little more luxurious than Clif's "workshop". _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael Perez Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 8:54 AM Subject: Fw: Re: Pietenpol-List: Bending plywood The first picture shows the stringers with the flat 1/2" wide tops...ugly under the fabric in my opinion. The second is the new shaped profile. The third is the stringers with the new profile. These pictures were taken with the stringers just laid in place...nothing is attached or glued. I am now working on that...should have them all in tomorrow. ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 08:59:05 AM PST US From: Michael Perez Subject: RE: Re: Pietenpol-List: Bending plywood Yes Bill, my workshop. I used kitchen cabinets because they are cheap and a ll ready to go in. The counter tops are smooth and flat. The outer surfaces of all of these are a breeze to clean.- It was a win-win for me. - I had one of my cars in the shop for two winters, then decided to put it ba ck out in the garage with the others...It took up usable space and I was le ery about hitting it with something, so I moved it. - Had I not had the shop the Piet. may have very well been built in the kitch en! - (I wax the floor about every 3-5 years...8^)--- ) ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 09:14:42 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Yet another reason to hate me... From: Ryan Mueller Haha! Life is good! :P Ryan do not archive ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 09:14:57 AM PST US From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Mike Perez's workshop I've visited Mike's workshop at his house last winter guys and you may as well imagine that you're actually entering a surgical area of a hospital with one notable exception. There is way more clutter in an operating room. Mike just showed me his torque tube aileron control horn that he TIG welded up (the airfoil shaped / two-halves job) and it looked like it came out of a CNC machine---no distortions or warping anywhere on the edge welds and perfectly drilled and placed holes. My best control horns still had some slight distortion and warpage but Mike's look like a robotic welder welded them. Mike's also the world's luckiest man as he has the full blessings of his wi fe on this project and the stunning 1960's GTO he restored from the frame up. Mike C. ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 09:28:19 AM PST US Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Yet another reason to hate me... From: "Bill Church" Not many wives are pleased when their husbands give them power tools for their birthday ... or is that banner in the background just coincidence. do not archive this either ________________________________ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Mueller Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 12:08 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Yet another reason to hate me... Haha! Life is good! :P Ryan do not archive ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 09:51:44 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Yet another reason to hate me... From: Ryan Mueller Entirely coincidence...although Jess's birthday is this month. That banner is there, apparently, from a birthday get-together the airport owner had for his wife a couple years ago. It just happened to be hanging there the day we first were shown the barn, which was around my birthday in July. Go figure. :P Ryan do not archive On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 11:25 AM, Bill Church wrote: > Not many wives are pleased when their husbands give them power tools for > their birthday ... or is that banner in the background just coincidence. > > do not archive this either > > ------------------------------ > *From:* owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto: > owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Ryan Mueller > *Sent:* Friday, November 06, 2009 12:08 PM > *To:* pietenpol-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* Pietenpol-List: Yet another reason to hate me... > > Haha! Life is good! :P > > Ryan > > do not archive > > * > > * > > ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 09:55:02 AM PST US From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Yet another reason to hate me... You're a blesses husband Ryan ! Mike C. do not archive ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 09:55:16 AM PST US From: Michael Perez Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Yet another reason to hate me... How cool is that!? The wife is out in the shop, on her birthday, (or maybe it was one of the kids birthdays...) working with power tools making plane parts...that sound about right? - "Happy birthday dear, now get back to work!" - Why do I feel now we will see a flood of funny shop pics? ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 09:55:23 AM PST US From: "Gary Boothe" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Yet another reason to hate me... She already agreed to live in the barnger (barn/hanger)..do we need more reasons? Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion, mounted Tail done, Fuselage on gear (15 ribs down.) Do not archive _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Mueller Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 9:08 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Yet another reason to hate me... Haha! Life is good! :P Ryan do not archive ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 12:14:20 PM PST US From: H RULE Subject: Re: Re: Pietenpol-List: Bending plywood ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 12:59:31 PM PST US From: Oscar Zuniga Subject: Pietenpol-List: Yet another reason to hate me... What's curious to me is that (in the photo, at least), Jess looks like Sarah Palin. do not archive Oscar Zuniga Air Camper NX41CC San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 01:11:30 PM PST US From: "Gary Boothe" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Yet another reason to hate me... That's not curious at all, Oscar. I heard that Jess can shoot and field dress a moose just as well as Sarah! I can see why Ryan treats her so good... Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion, mounted Tail done, Fuselage on gear (15 ribs down.) Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Oscar Zuniga Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 12:55 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Yet another reason to hate me... What's curious to me is that (in the photo, at least), Jess looks like Sarah Palin. do not archive Oscar Zuniga Air Camper NX41CC San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 01:35:12 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Yet another reason to hate me... From: Ryan Mueller Hehe....I don't know who you've been talking to, Gary. She won't even kill a bug! However she does go shooting with me, and still has the most powerful handgun in the relationship, a Ruger Super Redhawk (.44 Mag) passed on from her father. I have five battle rifles to her zero thus far though, so I win overall. But Palin, Oscar? Ooh...there'll be some choice words over that comment. :P Ryan do not archive On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 3:06 PM, Gary Boothe wrote: > > That's not curious at all, Oscar. I heard that Jess can shoot and field > dress a moose just as well as Sarah! I can see why Ryan treats her so > good... > > Gary Boothe > Cool, Ca. > Pietenpol > WW Corvair Conversion, mounted > Tail done, Fuselage on gear > (15 ribs down.) > Do not archive > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Oscar > Zuniga > Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 12:55 PM > To: Pietenpol List > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Yet another reason to hate me... > > > > What's curious to me is that (in the photo, at least), > Jess looks like Sarah Palin. > > do not archive > > Oscar Zuniga > Air Camper NX41CC > San Antonio, TX > mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com > website at http://www.flysquirrel.net > > ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 02:32:34 PM PST US From: Dan Yocum Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re Static port Graham, There's a slight vacuum created in the cockpit, so while the reading will be "close" it will be off. If you're ok with "close" then that should be fine. I just bought a non-heated strut mount pitot/static port from AS&S for $20 and change. I still haven't mounted it yet, though. Cheers, Dan -- Dan Yocum Fermilab 630.840.6509 yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov Fermilab. Just zeros and ones. ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 02:48:39 PM PST US From: "Gene & Tammy" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re Static port Or.......If you want to see how fast (or slow) your going you can..... look down and see how fast things are going past, or, hold your hand out into the slip stream and judge your speed by the force of the wind. Not sure why 5 or even 10 mph makes any difference in a Piet. Fly the plane, fly the plane, fly the plane. Enjoy the plane, enjoy the plane, enjoy the plane. Just my 2 cents worth Gene N502R ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Yocum" Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 4:31 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re Static port > > Graham, > > There's a slight vacuum created in the cockpit, so while the reading > will be "close" it will be off. If you're ok with "close" then that > should be fine. > > I just bought a non-heated strut mount pitot/static port from AS&S for > $20 and change. I still haven't mounted it yet, though. > > Cheers, > Dan > > -- > Dan Yocum > Fermilab 630.840.6509 > yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov > Fermilab. Just zeros and ones. > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 07:38:00 ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 03:54:01 PM PST US From: airlion Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Yet another reason to hate me... Sounds like ya'll have great wives. I know you do Ryan, but I have never met Mrs. Boothe ( I don't think). I have a great wife too . She likes paper work, gardening, digging, electrickery and anything else that doesn't include actual flying, unless it has two engines and two pilots. Maybe I will have to move up to a beach baron to trick her out. Cheers, Gardiner Mason --- On Fri, 11/6/09, Gary Boothe wrote: > From: Gary Boothe > Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Yet another reason to hate me... > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Date: Friday, November 6, 2009, 12:26 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > She already > agreed to live in the barnger > (barn/hanger).do we need more > reasons? > > > > > > > Gary > Boothe > > Cool, > Ca. > > Pietenpol > > > WW > Corvair Conversion, > mounted > > Tail > done,Fuselageon gear > > (15 > ribs down) > > Do > not archive > > > > > > > > > > > > From: > owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Mueller > > Sent: Friday, > November 06, 2009 > 9:08 AM > > To: > pietenpol-list@matronics.com > > Subject: > Pietenpol-List: Yet > another reason to hate me... > > > > > > Haha! Life is good! :P > > > > Ryan > > > > do not archive > > > > > > > > > > > provided > > ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 04:53:05 PM PST US From: "Jack Phillips" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Yet another reason to hate me... How did you get Sarah Palin to come run the router in your workshop? _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation] Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 12:48 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Yet another reason to hate me... You're a blesses husband Ryan ! Mike C. do not archive ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 05:54:29 PM PST US From: "Gary Boothe" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Yet another reason to hate me... Gardiner, It is likely that you will never meet Mrs. Boothe. Concerning my flying, the best thing I can say about her is that she doesn't stand in my way. However, having mis-spent her youth on Harley's, she perked up a little when I bought the 21" Sportster wheels; only to become disinterested again when she saw the laminated struts, and the boards that will someday be my prop! Weren't you about to fly yours? Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion, mounted Tail done, Fuselage on gear (15 ribs down) Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of airlion Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 3:54 PM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Yet another reason to hate me... Sounds like ya'll have great wives. I know you do Ryan, but I have never met Mrs. Boothe ( I don't think). I have a great wife too . She likes paper work, gardening, digging, electrickery and anything else that doesn't include actual flying, unless it has two engines and two pilots. Maybe I will have to move up to a beach baron to trick her out. Cheers, Gardiner Mason --- On Fri, 11/6/09, Gary Boothe wrote: > From: Gary Boothe > Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Yet another reason to hate me... > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Date: Friday, November 6, 2009, 12:26 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > She already > agreed to live in the barnger > (barn/hanger).do we need more > reasons? > > > > > > > Gary > Boothe > > Cool, > Ca. > > Pietenpol > > > WW > Corvair Conversion, > mounted > > Tail > done,Fuselageon gear > > (15 > ribs down) > > Do > not archive > > > > > > > > > > > > From: > owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Mueller > > Sent: Friday, > November 06, 2009 > 9:08 AM > > To: > pietenpol-list@matronics.com > > Subject: > Pietenpol-List: Yet > another reason to hate me... > > > > > > Haha! Life is good! :P > > > > Ryan > > > > do not archive > > > > > > > > > > > provided > > ________________________________ Message 28 ____________________________________ Time: 07:34:19 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Yet another reason to hate me... From: "K5YAC" We are lucky Ryan. Theresa will be helping me make sawdust this weekend too. In fact, I didn't even have to ask... just about 20 minutes ago she said, "I'll help you rip that plywood on Sunday if you want." She knows that I have a couple of large pieces that I need to make into not-so-large pieces. Gotta love it. -------- Mark - working on wings Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=271442#271442 ________________________________ Message 29 ____________________________________ Time: 08:05:22 PM PST US From: jorge lizarraga Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Vinyl gap seal for 3 pce. wing.ok thats is bery good one tank were you found the gauge and like to now how you make the tank what cain of resine you used and congratulation is perfect seyou jorge from hanford --- On Fri, 11/6/09, Clif Dawson wrote: From: Clif Dawson Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Vinyl gap seal for 3 pce. wing OK, here's a few. First the plug ready to fiberglass the bottom. I positioned the basic plug in the wing where I wanted it, surounded it with a single piece of matt board and glued that to the plug with spray foam insulation. That cap I got at Arlington for ten bucks. It's $335 in AS+S! I made the fitting for it. The last pic shows the final layout. The fuel line is just sitting there. I need a couple of nut inserts before flairing and bending it to fit. Clif > > Hey Cliff! (Dawson) > > Do you have any pictures of your wing tank before install? > You read my mind perfectly!!! > > Dave ________________________________ Message 30 ____________________________________ Time: 08:11:27 PM PST US From: jorge lizarraga Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Bending plywood.exelent that is beautyfull touch congrat.. --- On Fri, 11/6/09, Clif Dawson wrote: From: Clif Dawson Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Bending plywood =0A=0A =0A=0A =0A=0A=0A=0AHere's what I did. First I filled in and contoure d =0Athe area=0Awith really light and thick balsa then, using water =0Abase d=0Acontact cement, glued on 1/32 ply for a hard =0Asurface.=0A=C2-My thi nking was that I was going to be =0Aputting weight=0Aon that area every tim e I got in or out so I wanted =0Athe=0Asolidity of bulk but I also wanted t he thinness =0Awhere the=0Aply overlay the stringers so there wouldn't be a =0Asignificant=0Abump in the fabric. Yes I know, there's a certain =0Aamou nt=0Aof anal involved! I just can't help it.=C2- =0A:-)=0A=C2-=0AClif =0A=0A ----- Original Message ----- =0A From: =0A Gary =0A Boothe =0A 9 3:21 =0A PM=0A Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Bending =0A plywood=0A =0A =0A Steve, =0A =C2- =0A Here a couple pics of turtle decks made out of 1/8=9D =0A Plywoodno steaming! =0A =C2- =0A =0A =C2- =0A =0A =C2- =0A Gary Boothe =0A Cool, Ca. =0A Pieten pol =0A WW Corvair Conversion, =0A mounted =0A Tail done, Fuselage on =0A gear =0A (15 ribs down) =0A -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com =0A [mailto:owner-pietenpo l-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of =0A chase143 Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 11:33 AM To:=0A pietenpol-list@matronics.com Subject: =0A Pietenpol-List: Re: Bending plywood=0A =C2- =0A --> Piet enpol-List message posted by: "chase143" =0A =0A =C2 - =0A Outstanding! Thanks guys. Great pictures and ideas. =0A I'll chec k out WC Piet as well. But sounds like no steaming and maybe 1/16 is =0A t he way to go, hopefully this weekend. =0A Thanks again, =0A Steve =0A =C2- =0A =C2- =0A =C2- =0A =C2- =0A Read this topic online =0A here: =0A =C2- =0A http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p= 271236#271236 =0A =C2- =0A =C2- =0A =C2- =0A =C2- =0A =C2 - =0A =C2- =0A =C2- =0A =0A =0A =0A =0A =0A =0A =0A =0A =0A =0A =0A =0A =0A =C2- =0A =C2- =0A =0A =0A=0A- =0ARelease =0A Date: 11/05/09 =0A19:52:00 =0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 31 ____________________________________ Time: 11:18:22 PM PST US From: "Clif Dawson" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Bending plywood.exelent Thanks Jorge. So the tank is vinyl ester resin. Apparently the only one that is fuel proof. The guage is a very uniquely designed oil tank one. The dial and the float assembly have no physical connection whatsoever, The dial pointer and the floatshaft are magnetic. The hand follows the float arm magneticaly through the dividing wall. Oh, I forgot to mention before and didn't take pics but the tank has four baffles in it, two fore and aft and two across. They are glassed into the bottom but not the top. Clif ----- Original Message ----- From: jorge lizarraga To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 8:11 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Bending plywood.exelent that is beautyfull touch congrat.. --- On Fri, 11/6/09, Clif Dawson wrote: From: Clif Dawson Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Bending plywood To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Date: Friday, November 6, 2009, 12:05 AM Here's what I did. First I filled in and contoured the area with really light and thick balsa then, using water based contact cement, glued on 1/32 ply for a hard surface. My thinking was that I was going to be putting weight on that area every time I got in or out so I wanted the solidity of bulk but I also wanted the thinness where the ply overlay the stringers so there wouldn't be a significant bump in the fabric. Yes I know, there's a certain amount of anal involved! I just can't help it. :-) Clif ----- Original Message ----- From: Gary Boothe To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 3:21 PM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Bending plywood Steve, Here a couple pics of turtle decks made out of 1/8=9D Plywoodno steaming! Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion, mounted Tail done, Fuselage on gear (15 ribs down) -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of chase143 Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 11:33 AM To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Bending plywood Outstanding! Thanks guys. Great pictures and ideas. I'll check out WC Piet as well. But sounds like no steaming and maybe 1/16 is the way to go, hopefully this weekend. 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