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     1. 06:31 AM - Fuselage Dimensions (jim)
     2. 06:55 AM - Re: Fuselage Dimensions (Ken Howe)
     3. 07:07 AM - Re: Fuselage Dimensions (Gary Boothe)
     4. 07:11 AM - Re: Air Camper splash page (Gary Boothe)
     5. 07:51 AM - Re: Fuselage Dimensions (Ryan Mueller)
     6. 07:59 AM - YouTube postings (Oscar Zuniga)
     7. 08:02 AM - UK built-up wing spar (Oscar Zuniga)
     8. 08:40 AM - Re: UK built-up wing spar (Lloyd Smith)
     9. 08:47 AM - Re: UK built-up wing spar (Lloyd Smith)
    10. 08:57 AM - Re: UK built-up wing spar (Gerry Holland)
    11. 11:03 AM - Re: UK built-up wing spar ()
    12. 12:33 PM - Re: UK built-up wing spar (Peter W Johnson)
    13. 01:49 PM - Re: UK built-up wing spar (Ryan Mueller)
    14. 02:08 PM - Re: UK built-up wing spar (carson)
    15. 03:13 PM - Re: YouTube postings (Gene & Tammy)
    16. 04:19 PM - Re: Fuselage Dimensions (Ben Charvet)
    17. 06:43 PM - Re: Re: Fuselage Dimensions (Jim)
    18. 07:51 PM - Re: YouTube postings (Dan Yocum)
    19. 08:17 PM - Re: Re: Fuselage Dimensions (Gary Boothe)
    20. 08:46 PM - Re: Re: Re: Fuselage Dimensions (Jim)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | Fuselage Dimensions | 
      
      I'm about to join the two sides of the fuselage, but, once again am 
      struggling with the plans, specifically trying to figure out the top and 
      bottom dimensions. Does anyone have a clean set of dimensions/drawings 
      to help with this. I'm building the long fuse.
      
      Thanks,
      
      Jim
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Fuselage Dimensions | 
      
      
      I'm not to that part of the project yet. Until now I hadn't looked 
      enough at the plans set to realize that those dimensions aren't shown on 
      the supplemental sheet. I guess what I'll end up doing is laying it out 
      full size on the workbench where I'll assemble it. Actually I plan to 
      build a mock-pit after I finish my ribs. Now I may do it full length 
      just to get these dimensions.
      
      My thoughts: Lay out one half - start with a full length centerline. 
      Draw the front of the fuse parallel to that, back to where ever you'll 
      start the bend. The plans show full width back to the rear panel, but I 
      know some have kept it full width to the rear seat back. Mark the 
      position and width of the tail post on the centerline. Now take a 
      flexible strip of wood, tack it to the full width, straight line at the 
      front and bend it back to the tail post. Mark the cross member 
      locations. Mirror the whole thing for the other side and measure away.
      
      Since there are so many variations, widened fuselage, different points 
      to start the bend, adjusted seat back locations, etc., I'd think we'd 
      all have to lay it out out this way unless building a stock short fuse.
      
      Let us know how it goes.
      
      --Ken
      
      jim wrote:
      > I'm about to join the two sides of the fuselage, but, once again am 
      > struggling with the plans, specifically trying to figure out the top and 
      > bottom dimensions. Does anyone have a clean set of dimensions/drawings 
      > to help with this. I'm building the long fuse.
      >  
      > Thanks,
      >  
      > Jim
      >  
      >  
      > 
      > *
      > 
      > 
      > *
      
      
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| Subject:  | Fuselage Dimensions | 
      
      Jim,
      
      
      Make your cockpit dimension to suit (whether 24" or wider), insert those
      x-members then squeeze the ends together at the tail. The rest of the
      dimensions will be whatever they are at that station.
      
      
      Happy Building,
      
      Gary Boothe
      
      Cool, Ca.
      
      Pietenpol
      
      WW Corvair Conversion, mounted
      
      Tail done, Fuselage on gear
      
      (15 ribs down.)
      
        _____  
      
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jim
      Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 6:20 AM
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fuselage Dimensions
      
      
      I'm about to join the two sides of the fuselage, but, once again am
      struggling with the plans, specifically trying to figure out the top and
      bottom dimensions. Does anyone have a clean set of dimensions/drawings to
      help with this. I'm building the long fuse.
      
      
      Thanks,
      
      
      Jim
      
      
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| Subject:  | Air Camper splash page | 
      
      
      ...and a great representation of a Piet, too, for many reasons!!
      
      Gary Boothe
      Cool, Ca.
      Pietenpol
      WW Corvair Conversion, mounted
      Tail done, Fuselage on gear
      (15 ribs down.)
      Do not archive
      
      -----Original Message-----
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      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeff
      Boatright
      Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 6:40 PM
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Air Camper splash page
      
      Wow, now this is fast action.  On Wednesday I asked the list if 
      anyone had a splash page for showing with a Piet at fly-ins. A day 
      and a half later the attached shows up from Barry Davis. Thanks Barry 
      - it'll go over great at the Jackson Co. Fly-In tomorrow!
      
      Jeff
      -- 
      
      Jeff Boatright
      "Now let's think about this..."
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Fuselage Dimensions | 
      
       I would think, looking at the plans (don't have the fuselage in front of
      me), that you would just use the dimensions from the overhead view on the
      '33 fuselage. The 'long' fuselage adds length between various stations, but
      it does not change the number of struts or diagonals. For example: on the
      '33 plans the vertical and diagonal members are numbered, 1 through 14.
      Label the members 1 through 14 on your long fuselage drawing, and just
      transfer the width dimensions.
      
      Stations #1-5 are 24". Starting with the seat back (station #7), it goes to
      22" wide. Station #9 is 17 3/4". Station #11 is 11". Finally, Station #13 is
      5 1/2".
      
      I assume there were no widths given on the supplemental long fuse plan
      because the intent is for you to use the same width dimensions given on the
      '33 sheet; no need to draw it out again. At least that's how I see it....
      
      Ryan
      
      On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 8:20 AM, jim <quinnj@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
      
      >  I'm about to join the two sides of the fuselage, but, once again am
      > struggling with the plans, specifically trying to figure out the top and
      > bottom dimensions. Does anyone have a clean set of dimensions/drawings to
      > help with this. I'm building the long fuse.
      >
      > Thanks,
      >
      > Jim
      >
      >
      
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| Subject:  | YouTube postings | 
      
      
      
      C'mon, you guys- be serious.  Don't even bother
      posting videos of landings on grass because it's 
      almost impossible to make a bad landing on grass.
      Too forgiving.  Paved, hard-surface runways only!
      
      do not archive
      
      Oscar Zuniga
      Air Camper NX41CC
      San Antonio, TX
      mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
      website at http://www.flysquirrel.net 		 	   		  
      
      
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| Subject:  | UK built-up wing spar | 
      
      
      
      Is the built-up (box) wing spar that is approved
      for use in the U.K. a 3/4" thick spar or 1"?  I've
      looked at pictures of one (Paul Shenton's, I believe)
      and can't see how it could possibly be 3/4".
      
      Oscar Zuniga
      Air Camper NX41CC
      San Antonio, TX
      mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
      website at http://www.flysquirrel.net 		 	   		  
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: UK built-up wing spar | 
      
      Oscar, I have looked at the built up spars as well, and it is hard to
      determine how they are constructed from photos.  I have searched for a place
      to order the PFA drawings for this spar, but all I have found is Mr.
      Trextor's drawings of his proposed spar.  It looks doable, but I'm
      interested in the necessity of intercostals where the ribs attach, filler
      blocks where fittings attach, etc.  These things are just as important as
      the spanwise loads because that's how we hang the fuse from the wing,  :-)
      
      On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Oscar Zuniga <taildrags@hotmail.com>wrote:
      
      >
      >
      > Is the built-up (box) wing spar that is approved
      > for use in the U.K. a 3/4" thick spar or 1"?  I've
      > looked at pictures of one (Paul Shenton's, I believe)
      > and can't see how it could possibly be 3/4".
      >
      > Oscar Zuniga
      > Air Camper NX41CC
      > San Antonio, TX
      > mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
      > website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
      >
      >
      
      
      -- 
      "Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it whether it exists or
      not, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying the wrong remedy." --British
      publisher and writer Ernest Benn (1875-1954)
      
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| Subject:  | Re: UK built-up wing spar | 
      
      I did just find this, but I wonder if the spar drawings are available as a
      supplement to US builders?
      
      http://www.pietenpolclub.co.uk/#/modifications-data/4533829721
      
      On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 11:34 AM, Lloyd Smith <lesmith240@gmail.com> wrote:
      
      > Oscar, I have looked at the built up spars as well, and it is hard to
      > determine how they are constructed from photos.  I have searched for a place
      > to order the PFA drawings for this spar, but all I have found is Mr.
      > Trextor's drawings of his proposed spar.  It looks doable, but I'm
      > interested in the necessity of intercostals where the ribs attach, filler
      > blocks where fittings attach, etc.  These things are just as important as
      > the spanwise loads because that's how we hang the fuse from the wing,  :-)
      >
      >
      > On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Oscar Zuniga <taildrags@hotmail.com>wrote:
      >
      >> >
      >>
      >>
      >> Is the built-up (box) wing spar that is approved
      >> for use in the U.K. a 3/4" thick spar or 1"?  I've
      >> looked at pictures of one (Paul Shenton's, I believe)
      >> and can't see how it could possibly be 3/4".
      >>
      >> Oscar Zuniga
      >> Air Camper NX41CC
      >> San Antonio, TX
      >> mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
      >> website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >
      >
      > --
      > "Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it whether it exists
      > or not, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying the wrong remedy." --British
      > publisher and writer Ernest Benn (1875-1954)
      >
      
      
      -- 
      "Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it whether it exists or
      not, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying the wrong remedy." --British
      publisher and writer Ernest Benn (1875-1954)
      
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| Subject:  | Re: UK built-up wing spar | 
      
      Hi
      Might be worth dropping a line to Alan James in UK (aka Mr. Pietenpol) and
      asking about this matter.
      gbucojames@hotmail.com
      Regards
      Gerry
      
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| Subject:  | Re: UK built-up wing spar | 
      
      Over the years I as well as others have been unsuccessfully in getting 
      the UK spar plans.  The person who designed the spar will not sell them 
      to anyone in the U.S. due to liability concerns.
      
      Chris
      Sacramento, CA
      WestCoastPiet.com
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Lloyd Smith 
        To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com 
        Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 8:34 AM
        Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: UK built-up wing spar
      
      
        Oscar, I have looked at the built up spars as well, and it is hard to 
      determine how they are constructed from photos.  I have searched for a 
      place to order the PFA drawings for this spar, but all I have found is 
      Mr. Trextor's drawings of his proposed spar.  It looks doable, but I'm 
      interested in the necessity of intercostals where the ribs attach, 
      filler blocks where fittings attach, etc.  These things are just as 
      important as the spanwise loads because that's how we hang the fuse from 
      the wing,  :-)
      
      
        On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Oscar Zuniga <taildrags@hotmail.com> 
      wrote:
      
      <taildrags@hotmail.com>
      
      
          Is the built-up (box) wing spar that is approved
          for use in the U.K. a 3/4" thick spar or 1"?  I've
          looked at pictures of one (Paul Shenton's, I believe)
          and can't see how it could possibly be 3/4".
      
          Oscar Zuniga
          Air Camper NX41CC
          San Antonio, TX
          mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
          website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
      
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      remedy." --British publisher and writer Ernest Benn (1875-1954)
      
      
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| Subject:  | UK built-up wing spar | 
      
      
      Oscar,
      
      I built the UK spar. Check out http://www.cpc-world.com Page 4 of the build
      photos. 
      
      The front spar is 7/8", the rear is 3/4". Both are covered with 1/8" ply
      totally on the front of the spars and in part on the rear of the spars.
      I can give you some dimensions if you like.
      
      I understand, as already suggested, Jim Wills will not sell to the US for
      fear of litigation if some thing fails. I have put them to the test and they
      don't fail.....
      
      Cheers
      
      Peter
      Wonthaggi Australia
      http://www.cpc-world.com
      
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Oscar Zuniga
      Sent: Sunday, 15 November 2009 2:59 AM
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: UK built-up wing spar
      
      
      
      Is the built-up (box) wing spar that is approved
      for use in the U.K. a 3/4" thick spar or 1"?  I've
      looked at pictures of one (Paul Shenton's, I believe)
      and can't see how it could possibly be 3/4".
      
      Oscar Zuniga
      Air Camper NX41CC
      San Antonio, TX
      mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
      website at http://www.flysquirrel.net 		 	   		  
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: UK built-up wing spar | 
      
      Will he sell them to Canadians?
      
      Ryan
      
      do not archive
      
      On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 1:03 PM, <catdesigns@att.net> wrote:
      
      >  Over the years I as well as others have been unsuccessfully in getting
      > the UK spar plans.  The person who designed the spar will not sell them to
      > anyone in the U.S. due to liability concerns.
      >
      > Chris
      > Sacramento, CA
      > WestCoastPiet.com
      >
      > ----- Original Message -----
      > *From:* Lloyd Smith <lesmith240@gmail.com>
      > *To:* pietenpol-list@matronics.com
      > *Sent:* Saturday, November 14, 2009 8:34 AM
      > *Subject:* Re: Pietenpol-List: UK built-up wing spar
      >
      > Oscar, I have looked at the built up spars as well, and it is hard to
      > determine how they are constructed from photos.  I have searched for a place
      > to order the PFA drawings for this spar, but all I have found is Mr.
      > Trextor's drawings of his proposed spar.  It looks doable, but I'm
      > interested in the necessity of intercostals where the ribs attach, filler
      > blocks where fittings attach, etc.  These things are just as important as
      > the spanwise loads because that's how we hang the fuse from the wing,  :-)
      >
      > On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Oscar Zuniga <taildrags@hotmail.com>wrote:
      >
      >> >
      >>
      >>
      >> Is the built-up (box) wing spar that is approved
      >> for use in the U.K. a 3/4" thick spar or 1"?  I've
      >> looked at pictures of one (Paul Shenton's, I believe)
      >> and can't see how it could possibly be 3/4".
      >>
      >> Oscar Zuniga
      >> Air Camper NX41CC
      >> San Antonio, TX
      >> mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
      >> website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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| Subject:  | Re: UK built-up wing spar | 
      
      
      Heres some pic's of mine
      I almost have one wing built but I can take photos of any part of the other two
      spars before I start assembly of the next wing if you have any specific requests
      Carson
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=272848#272848
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: YouTube postings | 
      
      
      I 2nd that!  And where are the tall trees at each end of the runway?
      Gene
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
      Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 9:55 AM
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: YouTube postings
      
      
      >
      >
      > C'mon, you guys- be serious.  Don't even bother
      > posting videos of landings on grass because it's
      > almost impossible to make a bad landing on grass.
      > Too forgiving.  Paved, hard-surface runways only!
      >
      > do not archive
      >
      > Oscar Zuniga
      > Air Camper NX41CC
      > San Antonio, TX
      > mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
      > website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
      >
      >
      
      
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      07:43:00
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Fuselage Dimensions | 
      
      
      That's what I did..
      
      Ben Charvet
      Airworthiness inspection scheduled for 12/4!
      
      
      Ryan Mueller wrote:
      >  I would think, looking at the plans (don't have the fuselage in front 
      > of me), that you would just use the dimensions from the overhead view 
      > on the '33 fuselage. The 'long' fuselage adds length between various 
      > stations, but it does not change the number of struts or diagonals. 
      > For example: on the '33 plans the vertical and diagonal members are 
      > numbered, 1 through 14. Label the members 1 through 14 on your long 
      > fuselage drawing, and just transfer the width dimensions.
      >
      > Stations #1-5 are 24". Starting with the seat back (station #7), it 
      > goes to 22" wide. Station #9 is 17 3/4". Station #11 is 11". Finally, 
      > Station #13 is 5 1/2".
      >
      > I assume there were no widths given on the supplemental long fuse plan 
      > because the intent is for you to use the same width dimensions given 
      > on the '33 sheet; no need to draw it out again. At least that's how I 
      > see it....
      >
      > Ryan
      >
      > On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 8:20 AM, jim <quinnj@sbcglobal.net 
      > <mailto:quinnj@sbcglobal.net>> wrote:
      >
      >     I'm about to join the two sides of the fuselage, but, once again
      >     am struggling with the plans, specifically trying to figure out
      >     the top and bottom dimensions. Does anyone have a clean set of
      >     dimensions/drawings to help with this. I'm building the long fuse.
      >      
      >     Thanks,
      >      
      >     Jim
      >      
      >      
      >
      >
      > *
      >
      >
      > *
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Fuselage Dimensions | 
      
      
      
      Oh come on Gary, thats too common sense. It must be harder than that.
      Jim B.
      
      Jim Boyer
      Santa Rosa, CA
      Pietenpol on wheels
      Tail surfaces done
      Wing ribs done
      Corvair engine
      
      
      Nov 14, 2009 07:11:01 AM, pietenpol-list@matronics.com wrote:
      
      
      Jim,
      
      Make your cockpit dimension to suit (whether 24 or wider), insert those x-members
      then squeeze the ends together at the tail. The rest of the dimensions will
      be whatever they are at that station.
      
      Happy Building,
      
      Gary Boothe
      Cool, Ca.
      Pietenpol
      WW Corvair Conversion, mounted
      Tail done, Fuselage on gear
      (15 ribs down)
      
      
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jim
      Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 6:20 AM
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fuselage Dimensions
      
      
      I'm about to join the two sides of the fuselage, but, once again am struggling
      with the plans, specifically trying to figure out the top and bottom dimensions.
      Does anyone have a clean set of dimensions/drawings to help with this. I'm
      building the long fuse.
      
      
      Thanks,
      
      
      Jim
      
      
      http://www.aeroelectric.com">www.aeroelectric.comwww.buildersbooks.comhttp://www.homebuilthelp.com">www.homebuilthelp.comhttp://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contributionhttp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List'>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-Listhttp://forums.matronics.com'>http://forums.matronics.com
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: YouTube postings | 
      
      
      OK, so a week before before my "5 minutes" email and youtube video, I 
      rounded out and flared so high on the grass strip at BUU that when I 
      bounced the first time, there wasn't enough time to bounce again before 
      the CFI pushed the throttle forward and we went around.  No, there's no 
      video.
      
      There was 3 things that I came away with on that go around:
      
      1) This airplane is built like a tank!  I must have bounced in from 10'. 
        OK, maybe it just felt that high, but it sure bounced.  No creaks or 
      bangs or anything made me think it was going to come apart.  What a 
      great plane!
      
      2) This airfoil responds well to any sort of power input.  When he 
      applied power the plane never dipped again.
      
      3) When you flare too high, just push the stick forward *a little bit* 
      and let it sink gently to the ground, easy as pie.
      
      Oscar Zuniga wrote:
      > 
      > 
      > C'mon, you guys- be serious.  Don't even bother
      > posting videos of landings on grass because it's 
      > almost impossible to make a bad landing on grass.
      > Too forgiving.  Paved, hard-surface runways only!
      >  
      > do not archive
      > 
      > Oscar Zuniga
      > Air Camper NX41CC
      > San Antonio, TX
      > mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
      > website at http://www.flysquirrel.net 		 	   		  
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      
      -- 
      Dan Yocum
      Fermilab  630.840.6509
      yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
      Fermilab.  Just zeros and ones.
      
      
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| Subject:  | Fuselage Dimensions | 
      
      
      Things have to be simple for me to understand them!
      
      Gary Boothe
      Cool, Ca.
      Pietenpol
      WW Corvair Conversion, mounted
      Tail done, Fuselage on gear
      (15 ribs down.)
      Do not archive
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim
      Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 6:43 PM
      Subject: Re: RE: Pietenpol-List: Fuselage Dimensions
      
      
      
      Oh come on Gary, thats too common sense. It must be harder than that.
      Jim B.
      
      Jim Boyer
      Santa Rosa, CA
      Pietenpol on wheels
      Tail surfaces done
      Wing ribs done
      Corvair engine
      
      
      Nov 14, 2009 07:11:01 AM, pietenpol-list@matronics.com wrote:
      
      
      Jim,
      
      Make your cockpit dimension to suit (whether 24" or wider), insert those
      x-members then squeeze the ends together at the tail. The rest of the
      dimensions will be whatever they are at that station.
      
      Happy Building,
      
      Gary Boothe
      Cool, Ca.
      Pietenpol
      WW Corvair Conversion, mounted
      Tail done, Fuselage on gear
      (15 ribs down.)
      
      
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jim
      Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 6:20 AM
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fuselage Dimensions
      
      
      I'm about to join the two sides of the fuselage, but, once again am
      struggling with the plans, specifically trying to figure out the top and
      bottom dimensions. Does anyone have a clean set of dimensions/drawings to
      help with this. I'm building the long fuse.
      
      
      Thanks,
      
      
      Jim
      
      
      http://www.aeroelectric.com">www.aeroelectric.comwww.buildersbooks.comhttp:/
      /www.homebuilthelp.com">www.homebuilthelp.comhttp://www.matronics.com/contri
      bution">http://www.matronics.com/contributionhttp://www.matronics.com/Naviga
      tor?Pietenpol-List'>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-Listhttp://
      forums.matronics.com'>http://forums.matronics.com
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Fuselage Dimensions | 
      
      
      
      Hi Gary,
      The sarcasm was unkind of me; I apologize to anyone who might have read it. Some
      questions I have asked have been even more obvious. 
      Oh well I didn't stay in a Holiday Inn Express last night but I did mash my right
      thumb with a hammer today trying to seal the  lid on a can of varnish.
      Cheers,
      Jim B.
      
      Jim Boyer
      Santa Rosa, CA
      Pietenpol on wheels
      Tail surfaces done
      Wing ribs done
      Corvair engine
      
      
      On Nov 14, 2009, Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote: 
      
      
      Things have to be simple for me to understand them!
      
      Gary Boothe
      Cool, Ca.
      Pietenpol
      WW Corvair Conversion, mounted
      Tail done, Fuselage on gear
      (15 ribs down.)
      Do not archive
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim
      Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 6:43 PM
      Subject: Re: RE: Pietenpol-List: Fuselage Dimensions
      
      
      
      Oh come on Gary, thats too common sense. It must be harder than that.
      Jim B.
      
      Jim Boyer
      Santa Rosa, CA
      Pietenpol on wheels
      Tail surfaces done
      Wing ribs done
      Corvair engine
      
      
      Nov 14, 2009 07:11:01 AM, pietenpol-list@matronics.com wrote:
      
      
      Jim,
      
      Make your cockpit dimension to suit (whether 24" or wider), insert those
      x-members then squeeze the ends together at the tail. The rest of the
      dimensions will be whatever they are at that station.
      
      Happy Building,
      
      Gary Boothe
      Cool, Ca.
      Pietenpol
      WW Corvair Conversion, mounted
      Tail done, Fuselage on gear
      (15 ribs down.)
      
      
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jim
      Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 6:20 AM
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fuselage Dimensions
      
      
      I'm about to join the two sides of the fuselage, but, once again am
      struggling with the plans, specifically trying to figure out the top and
      bottom dimensions. Does anyone have a clean set of dimensions/drawings to
      help with this. I'm building the long fuse.
      
      
      Thanks,
      
      
      Jim
      
      
      http://www.aeroelectric.com">www.aeroelectric.comwww.buildersbooks.comhttp:/
      /www.homebuilthelp.com">www.homebuilthelp.comhttp://www.matronics.com/contri
      bution">http://www.matronics.com/contributionhttp://www.matronics.com/Naviga
      tor?Pietenpol-List'>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-Listhttp://
      forums.matronics.com'>http://forums.matronics.com
      
      
 
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