---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 11/21/09: 22 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:02 AM - Re: removing contact cement (Doug Dever) 2. 08:55 AM - Covering question - drain grommets (Rick Holland) 3. 09:13 AM - Re: Covering question - drain grommets (Don Emch) 4. 10:35 AM - Re: Covering question - drain grommets (helspersew@aol.com) 5. 10:59 AM - Re: Covering question - drain grommets (Rick Holland) 6. 12:09 PM - Center section question (Ken Chambers) 7. 12:34 PM - Re: Center section question (John Recine) 8. 12:39 PM - Re: Center section question (Gary Boothe) 9. 12:54 PM - Re: Center section question (Ken Chambers) 10. 01:07 PM - This is different- pilot step (helspersew@aol.com) 11. 01:18 PM - Pilot step (helspersew@aol.com) 12. 01:19 PM - Re: travel (John Recine) 13. 01:19 PM - Re: This is different- pilot step (John Recine) 14. 01:21 PM - Re: This is different- pilot step (Jim Markle) 15. 01:21 PM - Re: Pilot step (John Recine) 16. 02:14 PM - Re: Pilot step (Gary Boothe) 17. 02:15 PM - Re: Center section question (Gary Boothe) 18. 02:17 PM - Re: Pilot step (Jim Markle) 19. 02:21 PM - Re: Center section question (Jim Markle) 20. 03:53 PM - Re: Center section question (Ben Charvet) 21. 03:54 PM - Re: Pilot step (Rick Holland) 22. 07:56 PM - Re: Center section question (Ken Chambers) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:02:25 AM PST US From: Doug Dever Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: removing contact cement Oscar=2C Depends on the paint. If it's and OEM finnish on a car or truck built w/in the last 20yrs then laquer thinner is fine. For any other paint I wouldn' t go any harsher than a cleaner/degreaser sold at any automotive paint shop =2C but I'm not sure that it will cut contact cement. Doug Dever In beautiful Stow Ohio > From: taildrags@hotmail.com > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Pietenpol-List: removing contact cement > Date: Fri=2C 20 Nov 2009 15:03:44 -0600 > > > > > Does anyone have recommendations regarding how to > remove contact cement from painted surfaces? For > example=2C if a gasket or trim comes off of an auto > and needs to be reattached but there is contact > cement residue (the typical yellow cement)=2C is there > something that will release the old cement without > harming the paint? > > Most cement cans=2C like the Weldwood that I have=2C > says to use mineral spirits for cleanup but before > I try it I thought I'd ask. The paint is enamel. > > Thanks. > > Oscar Zuniga > Air Camper NX41CC > San Antonio=2C TX > mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com > website at http://www.flysquirrel.net > =========== =========== =========== =========== > > > _________________________________________________________________ Windows 7: I wanted simpler=2C now it's simpler. I'm a rock star. http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/windows-7/default.aspx?h=myidea?ocid=P ID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_myidea:112009 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:55:17 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Covering question - drain grommets From: Rick Holland Am having fun covering my tail pieces using the Stuart systems stuff (its great not having to breath that stinkin MEK in a closed garage). Would like opinions about installing drain grommets, seems to be 3 ways to do it: 1 - Just burn holes in the fabric with a soldering iron. 2 - Glue drain grommets to the fabric 3 - Glue drain grommets to the fabric and cover with a glued on 2" patch Also did you burn the hole before or after finish paint? Thanks Rick -- Rick Holland Castle Rock, Colorado "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad" ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:13:25 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Covering question - drain grommets From: "Don Emch" I used drain grommets on my wing and burned holes on the tail. I'm not too crazy about the drain grommets. Ugly and just add to something else that can peel and you have to kind of sand around them in the build up coats. I'm just about ready to start spraying the build up coats on my Chief now. I'm just burning holes in with the solder iron after it's finished through color. It's neater and simpler too. Just make sure it is on a tape and not just out in single layer fabric. Don Emch NX899DE Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=274090#274090 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:35:37 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Covering question - drain grommets From: helspersew@aol.com Rick, I am a little ahead of you with the Stewart System. I just took a solderin g iron with a blunt round end (I think about 3/16") and burned right throu gh. Be careful not to go through to the other side. "Measure twice, burn once." I see no reason to use drain grommets. Dan Helsper Poplar Grove, IL. -----Original Message----- From: Rick Holland Sent: Sat, Nov 21, 2009 10:54 am Subject: Pietenpol-List: Covering question - drain grommets Am having fun covering my tail pieces using the Stuart systems stuff (its great not having to breath that stinkin MEK in a closed garage). Would li ke opinions about installing drain grommets, seems to be 3 ways to do it: 1 - Just burn holes in the fabric with a soldering iron. 2 - Glue drain grommets to the fabric 3 - Glue drain grommets to the fabric and cover with a glued on 2" patch Also did you burn the hole before or after finish paint? Thanks Rick -- Rick Holland Castle Rock, Colorado "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad" ======================== =========== - -= -- Please Support Your Lists This Month -- -= (And Get Some AWESOME FREE Gifts!) - -= November is the Annual List Fund Raiser. 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That sounds good to me. Rick On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 1:28 PM, wrote: > Rick, > > I am a little ahead of you with the Stewart System. I just took a soldering > iron with a blunt round end (I think about 3/16") and burned right through. > Be careful not to go through to the other side. "Measure twice, burn > once." I see no reason to use drain grommets. > > Dan Helsper > Poplar Grove, IL. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rick Holland > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Sent: Sat, Nov 21, 2009 10:54 am > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Covering question - drain grommets > > Am having fun covering my tail pieces using the Stuart systems stuff (its > great not having to breath that stinkin MEK in a closed garage). Would like > opinions about installing drain grommets, seems to be 3 ways to do it: > > 1 - Just burn holes in the fabric with a soldering iron. > 2 - Glue drain grommets to the fabric > 3 - Glue drain grommets to the fabric and cover with a glued on 2" patch > > Also did you burn the hole before or after finish paint? > > Thanks > > Rick > > -- > Rick Holland > Castle Rock, Colorado > > "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad" > > * > > =================================== > =_blank>www.aeroelectric.com > m/" target=_blank>www.buildersbooks.com > =_blank>www.homebuilthelp.com > _blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution > =================================== > t" target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List > =================================== > tp://forums.matronics.com > =================================== > * > > * > > * > > -- Rick Holland Castle Rock, Colorado "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad" ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 12:09:07 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Center section question From: Ken Chambers Has anyone glued their center section floor on the outside of the ribs and compressions struts? Looks like on the plans you glue it to the spars, which leaves space between the floor and the 2" wide plywood rib braces along the bottom of each rib. I thought if I used one piece of plywood as the floor out to the ribs it can serve as a the rib braces too. I could ad cap strips to the bottom of the spars to provide a gluing surface even with the bottom of the ribs. Does this make any sense? Anyone see any problems? As an aside, I was scraping the second layer of wall paper off my kitchen this morning when I remembered that I bought this old house six years ago. At the time, I mentioned to Jim Markle (a customer of my dad's parts supply business) that I'd have it all fixed up in about six months so I could get back to the Pietenpol. He said something like "I'd give it six years" And I'm just now finishing up the worst of it. But I have worked in a little Pietenpol time. ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 12:34:25 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Center section question From: "John Recine" TmV2ZXIgdW5kZXJlc3RpbWF0ZSB0aGUgYWxsIGtub3dpbmcsIGFsbCBzZWVpbmcgIE1hcmtsZSEN Cg0KRG8gbm90IGFyY2hpdmUNCg0KSm9obiAgDQpTZW50IGZyb20gbXkgVmVyaXpvbiBXaXJlbGVz cyBCbGFja0JlcnJ5DQoNCi0tLS0tT3JpZ2luYWwgTWVzc2FnZS0tLS0tDQpGcm9tOiBLZW4gQ2hh bWJlcnMgPGtlbi5yaWZmaWNAZ21haWwuY29tPg0KRGF0ZTogU2F0LCAyMSBOb3YgMjAwOSAxNDow MTozNCANClRvOiA8cGlldGVucG9sLWxpc3RAbWF0cm9uaWNzLmNvbT4NClN1YmplY3Q6IFBpZXRl bnBvbC1MaXN0OiBDZW50ZXIgc2VjdGlvbiBxdWVzdGlvbg0KDQpIYXMgYW55b25lIGdsdWVkIHRo ZWlyIGNlbnRlciBzZWN0aW9uIGZsb29yIG9uIHRoZSBvdXRzaWRlIG9mIHRoZSByaWJzIGFuZA0K Y29tcHJlc3Npb25zIHN0cnV0cz8NCg0KTG9va3MgbGlrZSBvbiB0aGUgcGxhbnMgeW91IGdsdWUg aXQgdG8gdGhlIHNwYXJzLCB3aGljaCBsZWF2ZXMgc3BhY2UgYmV0d2Vlbg0KdGhlIGZsb29yIGFu ZCB0aGUgMiIgd2lkZSBwbHl3b29kIHJpYiBicmFjZXMgYWxvbmcgdGhlIGJvdHRvbSBvZiBlYWNo IHJpYi4NCg0KSSB0aG91Z2h0IGlmIEkgdXNlZCBvbmUgcGllY2Ugb2YgcGx5d29vZCBhcyB0aGUg Zmxvb3Igb3V0IHRvIHRoZSByaWJzIGl0IGNhbg0Kc2VydmUgYXMgYSB0aGUgcmliIGJyYWNlcyB0 b28uIEkgY291bGQgYWQgY2FwIHN0cmlwcyB0byB0aGUgYm90dG9tIG9mIHRoZQ0Kc3BhcnMgdG8g cHJvdmlkZSBhIGdsdWluZyBzdXJmYWNlIGV2ZW4gd2l0aCB0aGUgYm90dG9tIG9mIHRoZSByaWJz Lg0KDQpEb2VzIHRoaXMgbWFrZSBhbnkgc2Vuc2U/IEFueW9uZSBzZWUgYW55IHByb2JsZW1zPw0K DQpBcyBhbiBhc2lkZSwgSSB3YXMgc2NyYXBpbmcgdGhlIHNlY29uZCBsYXllciBvZiB3YWxsIHBh cGVyIG9mZiBteSBraXRjaGVuDQp0aGlzIG1vcm5pbmcgd2hlbiBJIHJlbWVtYmVyZWQgdGhhdCBJ IGJvdWdodCB0aGlzIG9sZCBob3VzZSBzaXggeWVhcnMgYWdvLg0KQXQgdGhlIHRpbWUsIEkgbWVu dGlvbmVkIHRvIEppbSBNYXJrbGUgKGEgY3VzdG9tZXIgb2YgbXkgZGFkJ3MgcGFydHMgc3VwcGx5 DQpidXNpbmVzcykgdGhhdCBJJ2QgaGF2ZSBpdCBhbGwgZml4ZWQgdXAgaW4gYWJvdXQgc2l4IG1v bnRocyBzbyBJIGNvdWxkIGdldA0KYmFjayB0byB0aGUgUGlldGVucG9sLiBIZSBzYWlkIHNvbWV0 aGluZyBsaWtlICJJJ2QgZ2l2ZSBpdCBzaXggeWVhcnMiIEFuZA0KSSdtIGp1c3Qgbm93IGZpbmlz aGluZyB1cCB0aGUgd29yc3Qgb2YgaXQuIEJ1dCBJIGhhdmUgd29ya2VkIGluIGEgbGl0dGxlDQpQ aWV0ZW5wb2wgdGltZS4NCg0K ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 12:39:17 PM PST US From: "Gary Boothe" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Center section question Ken, I'm just finishing up some varnishing on my center section now. I glued floor to spars and compression struts, as per plans. Your idea might be OK, but I don't see how you are going to attach to the spars, unless you use a filler piece. That might be OK, too. Other than that, I don't see a problem (or an advantage). Yes, there is a gap between the floor and the rib braces, but all covers up with fabric. Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion, mounted Tail done, Fuselage on gear (15 ribs down.) _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ken Chambers Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 12:02 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Center section question Has anyone glued their center section floor on the outside of the ribs and compressions struts? Looks like on the plans you glue it to the spars, which leaves space between the floor and the 2" wide plywood rib braces along the bottom of each rib. I thought if I used one piece of plywood as the floor out to the ribs it can serve as a the rib braces too. I could ad cap strips to the bottom of the spars to provide a gluing surface even with the bottom of the ribs. Does this make any sense? Anyone see any problems? As an aside, I was scraping the second layer of wall paper off my kitchen this morning when I remembered that I bought this old house six years ago. At the time, I mentioned to Jim Markle (a customer of my dad's parts supply business) that I'd have it all fixed up in about six months so I could get back to the Pietenpol. He said something like "I'd give it six years" And I'm just now finishing up the worst of it. But I have worked in a little Pietenpol time. ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 12:54:22 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Center section question From: Ken Chambers Thanks Gary, your answer brings up another question I have. In the description of the compression strut, my plans say: "Bottom edge cut out to match bottom curve of wing rib." So wouldn't this mean that you couldn't glue the floor to the spars and the compression struts unless you had a filler to make the spars the same level ? On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 2:35 PM, Gary Boothe wrote: > Ken, > > > I=92m just finishing up some varnishing on my center section now. I glued > floor to spars and compression struts, as per plans. Your idea might be O K, > but I don=92t see how you are going to attach to the spars, unless you us e a > filler piece. That might be OK, too. Other than that, I don=92t see a pro blem > (or an advantage). Yes, there is a gap between the floor and the rib brac es, > but all covers up with fabric. > > > Gary Boothe > > Cool, Ca. > > Pietenpol > > WW Corvair Conversion, mounted > > Tail done, Fuselage on gear > > (15 ribs down=85) > ------------------------------ > > *From:* owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto: > owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken Chambers > *Sent:* Saturday, November 21, 2009 12:02 PM > > *To:* pietenpol-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* Pietenpol-List: Center section question > > > Has anyone glued their center section floor on the outside of the ribs an d > compressions struts? > > Looks like on the plans you glue it to the spars, which leaves space > between the floor and the 2" wide plywood rib braces along the bottom of > each rib. > > I thought if I used one piece of plywood as the floor out to the ribs it > can serve as a the rib braces too. I could ad cap strips to the bottom of > the spars to provide a gluing surface even with the bottom of the ribs. > > Does this make any sense? Anyone see any problems? > > As an aside, I was scraping the second layer of wall paper off my kitchen > this morning when I remembered that I bought this old house six years ago .. > At the time, I mentioned to Jim Markle (a customer of my dad's parts supp ly > business) that I'd have it all fixed up in about six months so I could ge t > back to the Pietenpol. He said something like "I'd give it six years" And > I'm just now finishing up the worst of it. But I have worked in a little > Pietenpol time. > > > * * > > * * > > ** > > ** > > ** > > *www.aeroelectric.com* > > *www.homebuilthelp.com* > > ** > > *http://www.matronics.com/contribution* > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > * * > > * > =========== =========== =========== =========== > * > > -- Ken Chambers 512-796-1798 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 01:07:00 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: This is different- pilot step From: helspersew@aol.com Hi Guys, Here is a pic of the protective plate I just finished that goes around the pilot step. Only had to make it twice to get it right. I saw one like thi s on an antique biplane at Oshkosh. 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Cj4NCj4NCg0KDQotLSANCktlbiBDaGFtYmVycw0KNTEyLTc5Ni0xNzk4DQoNCg= ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 01:19:55 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: This is different- pilot step From: "John Recine" Dan I have some polished aluminum tread plate I am considerin g using for that application if you are interested in a piece? Let me know John Do not archive Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: helspersew@aol.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: This is different- pilot step Hi Guys, Here is a pic of the protective plate I just finished that goes around the pilot step. Only had to make it twice to get it right. I saw one like this on an antique biplane at Oshkosh. Dan Helsper Poplar Grove, IL. ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 01:21:37 PM PST US From: Jim Markle Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: This is different- pilot step Ok, let's see it!!! :-) I didn't get the attachment... -----Original Message----- From: helspersew@aol.com Sent: Nov 21, 2009 3:02 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: This is different- pilot step Hi Guys, Here is a pic of the protective plate I just finished that goes around the pilot step. Only had to make it twice to get it right. I saw one like this on an antique biplane at Oshkosh. Dan Helsper Poplar Grove, IL. ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 01:21:37 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pilot step From: "John Recine" Killer job Dan, looks great! John Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: helspersew@aol.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: Pilot step Forgot to attach photo. ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 02:14:07 PM PST US From: "Gary Boothe" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Pilot step HOLY COW, Dan!! That's beautiful. You're not going to want to put your dirty tennies on that step!! Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion, mounted Tail done, Fuselage on gear (15 ribs down.) Do not archive _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of helspersew@aol.com Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 1:14 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Pilot step Forgot to attach photo. ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 02:15:21 PM PST US From: "Gary Boothe" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Center section question I'm sure others have done differently, but I took this to mean that, when the compression strut is even with the bottom of the spar, there is an area, only in the middle, that needs to be matched to the rib curve. Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion, mounted Tail done, Fuselage on gear (15 ribs down.) _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ken Chambers Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 12:51 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Center section question Thanks Gary, your answer brings up another question I have. In the description of the compression strut, my plans say: "Bottom edge cut out to match bottom curve of wing rib." So wouldn't this mean that you couldn't glue the floor to the spars and the compression struts unless you had a filler to make the spars the same level? On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 2:35 PM, Gary Boothe wrote: Ken, I'm just finishing up some varnishing on my center section now. I glued floor to spars and compression struts, as per plans. Your idea might be OK, but I don't see how you are going to attach to the spars, unless you use a filler piece. That might be OK, too. Other than that, I don't see a problem (or an advantage). Yes, there is a gap between the floor and the rib braces, but all covers up with fabric. Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion, mounted Tail done, Fuselage on gear (15 ribs down.) _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ken Chambers Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 12:02 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Center section question Has anyone glued their center section floor on the outside of the ribs and compressions struts? Looks like on the plans you glue it to the spars, which leaves space between the floor and the 2" wide plywood rib braces along the bottom of each rib. I thought if I used one piece of plywood as the floor out to the ribs it can serve as a the rib braces too. I could ad cap strips to the bottom of the spars to provide a gluing surface even with the bottom of the ribs. Does this make any sense? Anyone see any problems? As an aside, I was scraping the second layer of wall paper off my kitchen this morning when I remembered that I bought this old house six years ago. At the time, I mentioned to Jim Markle (a customer of my dad's parts supply business) that I'd have it all fixed up in about six months so I could get back to the Pietenpol. He said something like "I'd give it six years" And I'm just now finishing up the worst of it. But I have worked in a little Pietenpol time. www.aeroelectric.com www.homebuilthelp.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution _blank">www.aeroelectric.com .com" target="_blank">www.buildersbooks.com ="_blank">www.homebuilthelp.com _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List tp://forums.matronics.com -- Ken Chambers 512-796-1798 ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 02:17:48 PM PST US From: Jim Markle Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pilot step Rolling the material around the corner into the inside of the opening is a very nice touch! Sweet. -----Original Message----- From: helspersew@aol.com Sent: Nov 21, 2009 3:13 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Pilot step Forgot to attach photo. ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 02:21:33 PM PST US From: Jim Markle Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Center section question As an aside, I was scraping the second layer of wall paper off my kitchen this morning when I remembered that I bought this old house six years ago. At the time, I mentioned to Jim Markle (a customer of my dad's parts supply business) that I'd have it all fixed up in about six months so I could get back to the Pietenpol. He said something like "I'd give it six years" And I'm just now finishing up the worst of it. But I have worked in a little Pietenpol time. Believe me, that estimate was based on experience.....I'm just glad to see you back to work on what REALLY matters! I miss going out to see your dad and being able to ask questions about aviation supplies and get an answer from someone who knew what they were talking about....plus he's just a nice guy. jm ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 03:53:05 PM PST US From: Ben Charvet Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Center section question I think I used a 1/8inch filler on the bottom of the spars, and glued the compression struts 1/8 inch above the bottom of the ribs, to make the floor flush with the bottom of the ribs. When I made the 1/16 inch cap strips I tapered the inside edge with sandpaper before glueing it in place and overlapped the floor by 1/2 inch, which tied the whole thing together (made that cap strip 2-1/2 inch wide) Ben Charvet Piet is done, now overhauling the A-65. Ken Chambers wrote: > > Thanks Gary, your answer brings up another question I have. In the > description of the compression strut, my plans say: "Bottom edge cut > out to match bottom curve of wing rib." > > So wouldn't this mean that you couldn't glue the floor to the spars > and the compression struts unless you had a filler to make the spars > the same level? > > ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 03:54:19 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pilot step From: Rick Holland Holy cow, looks like modern art. On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 4:13 PM, wrote: > Forgot to attach photo. -- Rick Holland Castle Rock, Colorado "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad" ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 07:56:20 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Center section question From: Ken Chambers Hey Jim Dad asked where you've been. I told him I was afraid that you had moved up north. Dad's retiring more every month. Gradually getting rid of his inventory, but still building and flying airplanes. Ken On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 4:20 PM, Jim Markle wrote: > jim_markle@mindspring.com> > > As an aside, I was scraping the second layer of wall paper off my kitchen > this morning when I remembered that I bought this old house six years ago. > At the time, I mentioned to Jim Markle (a customer of my dad's parts supply > business) that I'd have it all fixed up in about six months so I could get > back to the Pietenpol. He said something like "I'd give it six years" And > I'm just now finishing up the worst of it. But I have worked in a little > Pietenpol time. > > > Believe me, that estimate was based on experience.....I'm just glad to see > you back to work on what REALLY matters! > > I miss going out to see your dad and being able to ask questions about > aviation supplies and get an answer from someone who knew what they were > talking about....plus he's just a nice guy. > > jm > > -- Ken Chambers 512-796-1798 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message pietenpol-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pietenpol-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/pietenpol-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.