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1. 03:45 AM - Seaplane grommets (helspersew@aol.com)
2. 06:03 AM - Re: covering question-drain grommets (TOM STINEMETZE)
3. 06:23 AM - Re: Seaplane grommets (Tim Willis)
4. 06:39 AM - Re: Seaplane grommets (H RULE)
5. 06:52 AM - Re: Seaplane grommets (Jeff Boatright)
6. 08:03 AM - Re: Seaplane grommets (H RULE)
7. 09:12 AM - Fw: How to be a proper Pietenpol passenger (gcardinal)
8. 10:21 AM - How to be a proper Pietenpol passenger (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation])
9. 10:41 AM - Re: How to be a proper Pietenpol passenger (K5YAC)
10. 12:18 PM - Re: Fw: How to be a proper Pietenpol passenger (Jim)
11. 02:04 PM - Re: Fw: How to be a proper Pietenpol passenger (Gary Boothe)
12. 04:12 PM - Re: How to be a proper Pietenpol passenger (Jack)
13. 05:29 PM - Re: Fw: How to be a proper Pietenpol passenger (gcardinal)
14. 07:03 PM - Re: Fw: How to be a proper Pietenpol passenger (H RULE)
15. 08:28 PM - Re: Fw: How to be a proper Pietenpol passenger (Gary Boothe)
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| Subject: | Seaplane grommets |
Bleed-off some of the exhaust gasses, back into the inside of the stab and
elevators. The energy released out the seaplane grommets will be worth at
least 20 or 30 lbs. more thrust!!
Happy Thanksgiving to all!!!
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
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| Subject: | Re: covering question-drain grommets |
OOooo Oscar - you're such a kidder!
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>>> Oscar Zuniga <taildrags@hotmail.com> 11/24/2009 10:05 PM >>>
I was very concerned about the drain grommets on
41CC when I first started flying it. I noticed
that when the airspeed would get close to 75-80 MPH
indicated, I'd look out at the underside of the wing
trailing edges and the bottom of the wing fabric
would begin bellying towards the trailing edges as
the venturi suction past the seaplane grommets created
a vacuum inside the wing. The reshaping of the wing
would shift the center of pressure forward such that
the pitching moment moved aft, until the airplane
would pitch up and no amount of forward stick would
control the airplane. I would immediately slow the
airplane to avoid an uncontrollable, deadly
condition and the airplane was an unmanageable beast.
Then I'd wake up, shake myself, pull the blankets up,
and go back to sleep ;o) Folks, don't worry about
drain grommets.
Happy Thanksgiving, Pietenpolers. Friends, all.
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Oscar Zuniga
Air Camper NX41CC
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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| Subject: | Re: Seaplane grommets |
Ditching in the Gulf of Mexico, how will seaplane grommets interact with milk bottles
in the wings? Inquiring minds want to know.
Tim in central TX
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-----Original Message-----
From: helspersew@aol.com
Sent: Nov 25, 2009 5:44 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Seaplane grommets
Bleed-off some of the exhaust gasses, back into the inside of the stab and elevators.
The energy released out the seaplane grommets will be worth at least 20
or 30 lbs. more thrust!!
Happy Thanksgiving to all!!!
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
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| Subject: | Re: Seaplane grommets |
Ah geeeeze are we back to milk bottles again;-)=0Ado not archive=0A=0A=0A
=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Tim Willis <timothywillis@ea
rthlink.net>=0ATo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Wed, November 25, 2
009 9:22:42 AM=0ASubject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Seaplane grommets=0A=0A--> Pi
etenpol-List message posted by: Tim Willis <timothywillis@earthlink.net>=0A
=0ADitching in the Gulf of Mexico, how will seaplane grommets interact with
milk bottles in the wings?- Inquiring minds want to know.=0ATim in centr
al TX=0Ado not archive=0A=0A-----Original Message----- =0AFrom: helspersew@
aol.com =0ASent: Nov 25, 2009 5:44 AM =0ATo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
=0ASubject: Pietenpol-List: Seaplane grommets =0A=0A=0ABleed-off some of th
e exhaust gasses, back into the inside of the stab and elevators. The energ
y released out the seaplane grommets will be worth at least 20 or 30 lbs. m
ore thrust!!=0A=0AHappy Thanksgiving to all!!!=0A=0ADan Helsper=0APoplar Gr
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| Subject: | Re: Seaplane grommets |
All right, let's get serious about homebuilding and grommets...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jvOTsi3i64
And another Piet vid:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?vVQ79TVDE4
--
Jeff Boatright
"Now let's think about this..."
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| Subject: | Re: Seaplane grommets |
Great stuff Jeff;loved every bit of it!=0Ado not archive=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A____
____________________________=0AFrom: Jeff Boatright <jboatri@emory.edu>=0AT
o: pietenpol-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Wed, November 25, 2009 9:52:03 AM
=0ASubject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Seaplane grommets=0A=0A--> Pietenpol-List m
essage posted by: Jeff Boatright <jboatri@emory.edu>=0A=0AAll right, let's
get serious about homebuilding and grommets...=0A=0Ahttp://www.youtube.com/
watch?v=5jvOTsi3i64=0A=0AAnd another Piet vid:=0A=0Ahttp://www.youtube.co
m/watch?vVQ79TVDE4=0A-- =0AJeff Boatright=0A"Now let's think about thi
- - - - - - - - - - - - -Matt Dralle, List Admin.
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| Subject: | Fw: How to be a proper Pietenpol passenger |
Seven steps to becoming a proper Pietenpol passenger-
Step #1 - Left foot on tire, one hand on each cabane........
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Step #2 Head and shoulders go all the way through the cockpit as you
step in with your right foot.........
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Step#3 - Put on your seatbelt, goggles and earplugs.........
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Step #4 - Relax and get ready to enjoy your flight...........
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Step #5 - Enjoy the pretty, rural towns from the air...........
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Step #6 - After landing, thank your pilot for a nice
flight.............
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Step #7 - Tell the world what you think of Pietenpols!
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| Subject: | How to be a proper Pietenpol passenger |
That was an excellent guide Greg. All passengers should be so proper.
Mike C.
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| Subject: | Re: How to be a proper Pietenpol passenger |
Rub it in Greg... rub it in.
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Mark - working on wings
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=274786#274786
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| Subject: | Re: Fw: How to be a proper Pietenpol passenger |
Greg,
Very nice tutorial on getting in a Piet. Arlene and I enjoyed it; but the only
thing missing is the flexibility needed to get that right leg in.
Happy Thanksgiving,
Jim B.
Jim Boyer
Santa Rosa, CA
Pietenpol on wheels
Tail surfaces done
Wing ribs done
Corvair engine
Nov 25, 2009 09:34:16 AM, pietenpol-list@matronics.com wrote:
Seven steps to becoming a proper Pietenpol passenger-
Step #1 - Left foot on tire, one hand on each cabane........
Step #2 Head and shoulders go all the way through the cockpit as you step in with
your right foot.........
Step#3 - Put on your seatbelt, goggles and earplugs.........
Step #4 - Relax and get ready to enjoy your flight...........
Step #5 - Enjoy the pretty, rural towns from the air...........
Step #6 - After landing, thank your pilot for a nice flight.............
Step #7 - Tell the world what you think of Pietenpols!
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| Subject: | Fw: How to be a proper Pietenpol passenger |
Greg,
I'm crushed! You didn't smile at me like that..
..but, then, I'm not quite so purtee.
Happy Thanksgiving,
Gary Boothe
Cool, Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion, mounted
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
(15 ribs down.)
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of gcardinal
Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 9:17 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fw: How to be a proper Pietenpol passenger
Seven steps to becoming a proper Pietenpol passenger-
Step #1 - Left foot on tire, one hand on each cabane........
_____
Step #2 Head and shoulders go all the way through the cockpit as you step in
with your right foot.........
_____
Step#3 - Put on your seatbelt, goggles and earplugs.........
_____
Step #4 - Relax and get ready to enjoy your flight...........
_____
Step #5 - Enjoy the pretty, rural towns from the air...........
_____
Step #6 - After landing, thank your pilot for a nice flight.............
_____
Step #7 - Tell the world what you think of Pietenpols!
_____
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| Subject: | Re: How to be a proper Pietenpol passenger |
Yes Greg, they should also be light, female, attractive, cute, with
shorts... I better stop now!
Jack
DSM
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On Nov 25, 2009, at 12:19 PM, "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC
Aerospace Corporation]" <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov> wrote:
> That was an excellent guide Greg. All passengers should be so
> proper.
>
>
> Mike C.
>
>
> Do not archive
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fw: How to be a proper Pietenpol passenger |
Hi Gary,
I'll smile when your legs look as nice.........
Greg
----- Original Message -----
From: Gary Boothe
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 4:01 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Fw: How to be a proper Pietenpol
passenger
Greg,
I'm crushed! You didn't smile at me like that..
..but, then, I'm not quite so purtee.
Happy Thanksgiving,
Gary Boothe
Cool, Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion, mounted
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
(15 ribs down.)
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| Subject: | Re: Fw: How to be a proper Pietenpol passenger |
He looks like he's ready to shoot the red Baron!!!=0Ado=C2- not archive
=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Gary Boothe <gbooth
e5@comcast.net>=0ATo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Wed, November 25
, 2009 5:01:19 PM=0ASubject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Fw: How to be a proper Pie
tenpol passenger=0A=0A=0AGreg,=0A=C2-=0AI=99m crushed! You didn
=99t smile at me like that.=0A=C2-=0A=C2-=0A.but,
then, I=99m not quite so purtee=0A=C2-=0AHappy Thanksgivin
g,=0AGary Boothe=0ACool, Ca.=0APietenpol=0AWW Corvair Conversion, mounted
=0ATail done,=C2-Fuselage=C2-on gear=0A(15 ribs down)=0A=0A___
_____________________________=0A=0AFrom:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matroni
cs.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of gcar
dinal=0ASent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 9:17 AM=0ATo: pietenpol-list@mat
ronics.com=0ASubject: Pietenpol-List: Fw: How to be a proper Pietenpol pass
enger=0A=C2-=0A=0A=C2-=0ASeven steps to becoming a proper Pietenpol pas
senger-=0A>=C2-=0A>Step #1 - Left foot on tire, one hand on each cabane..
......=0A>=0A________________________________=0A=0A>=C2-=0A>=C2-=0A>Ste
p #2 Head and shoulders go all the way through the cockpit as you step in w
ith your right foot.........=0A>=0A________________________________=0A=0A>
=C2-=0A>=C2-=0A>=C2-=0A>Step#3 - Put on your seatbelt, goggles and ea
rplugs......... =0A>=0A________________________________=0A=0A>=C2-=0A>=C2
-=0A>=C2-=0A>=C2-=0A>Step #4 - Relax and get ready to enjoy your flig
ht........... =0A>=0A________________________________=0A=0A>=C2-=0A>=C2
-=0A>=C2-=0A>Step #5 - Enjoy the pretty, rural towns from the air......
..... =0A>=0A________________________________=0A=0A>=C2-=0A>=C2-=0A>=C2
-=0A>Step #6 - After landing, thank your pilot for a nice flight.........
.... =0A>=0A________________________________=0A=0A>=C2-=0A>=C2-=0A>=C2
-=0A>Step #7 - Tell the world what you think of Pietenpols! =0A>=0A______
__________________________=0A
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| Subject: | Fw: How to be a proper Pietenpol passenger |
He's thinking, ".I could've offered a ride to a pretty, young, 110 lb
sweetheart, instead of this 195 lb old guy."
Gary
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of H RULE
Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 7:01 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Fw: How to be a proper Pietenpol passenger
He looks like he's ready to shoot the red Baron!!!
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From: Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net>
Sent: Wed, November 25, 2009 5:01:19 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Fw: How to be a proper Pietenpol passenger
Greg,
I'm crushed! You didn't smile at me like that..
..but, then, I'm not quite so purtee.
Happy Thanksgiving,
Gary Boothe
Cool, Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion, mounted
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
(15 ribs down.)
_____
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of gcardinal
Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 9:17 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fw: How to be a proper Pietenpol passenger
Seven steps to becoming a proper Pietenpol passenger-
Step #1 - Left foot on tire, one hand on each cabane........
_____
Step #2 Head and shoulders go all the way through the cockpit as you step in
with your right foot.........
_____
Step#3 - Put on your seatbelt, goggles and earplugs.........
_____
Step #4 - Relax and get ready to enjoy your flight...........
_____
Step #5 - Enjoy the pretty, rural towns from the air...........
_____
Step #6 - After landing, thank your pilot for a nice flight.............
_____
Step #7 - Tell the world what you think of Pietenpols!
_____
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