---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 11/25/09: 15 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:45 AM - Seaplane grommets (helspersew@aol.com) 2. 06:03 AM - Re: covering question-drain grommets (TOM STINEMETZE) 3. 06:23 AM - Re: Seaplane grommets (Tim Willis) 4. 06:39 AM - Re: Seaplane grommets (H RULE) 5. 06:52 AM - Re: Seaplane grommets (Jeff Boatright) 6. 08:03 AM - Re: Seaplane grommets (H RULE) 7. 09:12 AM - Fw: How to be a proper Pietenpol passenger (gcardinal) 8. 10:21 AM - How to be a proper Pietenpol passenger (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]) 9. 10:41 AM - Re: How to be a proper Pietenpol passenger (K5YAC) 10. 12:18 PM - Re: Fw: How to be a proper Pietenpol passenger (Jim) 11. 02:04 PM - Re: Fw: How to be a proper Pietenpol passenger (Gary Boothe) 12. 04:12 PM - Re: How to be a proper Pietenpol passenger (Jack) 13. 05:29 PM - Re: Fw: How to be a proper Pietenpol passenger (gcardinal) 14. 07:03 PM - Re: Fw: How to be a proper Pietenpol passenger (H RULE) 15. 08:28 PM - Re: Fw: How to be a proper Pietenpol passenger (Gary Boothe) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:45:58 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Seaplane grommets From: helspersew@aol.com Bleed-off some of the exhaust gasses, back into the inside of the stab and elevators. The energy released out the seaplane grommets will be worth at least 20 or 30 lbs. more thrust!! Happy Thanksgiving to all!!! Dan Helsper Poplar Grove, IL. do not archive ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:03:38 AM PST US From: "TOM STINEMETZE" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: covering question-drain grommets OOooo Oscar - you're such a kidder! do not archive >>> Oscar Zuniga 11/24/2009 10:05 PM >>> I was very concerned about the drain grommets on 41CC when I first started flying it. I noticed that when the airspeed would get close to 75-80 MPH indicated, I'd look out at the underside of the wing trailing edges and the bottom of the wing fabric would begin bellying towards the trailing edges as the venturi suction past the seaplane grommets created a vacuum inside the wing. The reshaping of the wing would shift the center of pressure forward such that the pitching moment moved aft, until the airplane would pitch up and no amount of forward stick would control the airplane. I would immediately slow the airplane to avoid an uncontrollable, deadly condition and the airplane was an unmanageable beast. Then I'd wake up, shake myself, pull the blankets up, and go back to sleep ;o) Folks, don't worry about drain grommets. Happy Thanksgiving, Pietenpolers. Friends, all. do not archive Oscar Zuniga Air Camper NX41CC San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:23:08 AM PST US From: Tim Willis Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Seaplane grommets Ditching in the Gulf of Mexico, how will seaplane grommets interact with milk bottles in the wings? Inquiring minds want to know. Tim in central TX do not archive -----Original Message----- From: helspersew@aol.com Sent: Nov 25, 2009 5:44 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Seaplane grommets Bleed-off some of the exhaust gasses, back into the inside of the stab and elevators. The energy released out the seaplane grommets will be worth at least 20 or 30 lbs. more thrust!! Happy Thanksgiving to all!!! Dan Helsper Poplar Grove, IL. do not archive ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:39:20 AM PST US From: H RULE Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Seaplane grommets Ah geeeeze are we back to milk bottles again;-)=0Ado not archive=0A=0A=0A =0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Tim Willis =0ATo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Wed, November 25, 2 009 9:22:42 AM=0ASubject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Seaplane grommets=0A=0A--> Pi etenpol-List message posted by: Tim Willis =0A =0ADitching in the Gulf of Mexico, how will seaplane grommets interact with milk bottles in the wings?- Inquiring minds want to know.=0ATim in centr al TX=0Ado not archive=0A=0A-----Original Message----- =0AFrom: helspersew@ aol.com =0ASent: Nov 25, 2009 5:44 AM =0ATo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com =0ASubject: Pietenpol-List: Seaplane grommets =0A=0A=0ABleed-off some of th e exhaust gasses, back into the inside of the stab and elevators. The energ y released out the seaplane grommets will be worth at least 20 or 30 lbs. m ore thrust!!=0A=0AHappy Thanksgiving to all!!!=0A=0ADan Helsper=0APoplar Gr ==== ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:52:37 AM PST US From: Jeff Boatright Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Seaplane grommets All right, let's get serious about homebuilding and grommets... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jvOTsi3i64 And another Piet vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?vVQ79TVDE4 -- Jeff Boatright "Now let's think about this..." ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:03:30 AM PST US From: H RULE Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Seaplane grommets Great stuff Jeff;loved every bit of it!=0Ado not archive=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A____ ____________________________=0AFrom: Jeff Boatright =0AT o: pietenpol-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Wed, November 25, 2009 9:52:03 AM =0ASubject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Seaplane grommets=0A=0A--> Pietenpol-List m essage posted by: Jeff Boatright =0A=0AAll right, let's get serious about homebuilding and grommets...=0A=0Ahttp://www.youtube.com/ watch?v=5jvOTsi3i64=0A=0AAnd another Piet vid:=0A=0Ahttp://www.youtube.co m/watch?vVQ79TVDE4=0A-- =0AJeff Boatright=0A"Now let's think about thi - - - - - - - - - - - - -Matt Dralle, List Admin. =========================0A ==================== ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 09:12:42 AM PST US From: "gcardinal" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fw: How to be a proper Pietenpol passenger Seven steps to becoming a proper Pietenpol passenger- Step #1 - Left foot on tire, one hand on each cabane........ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Step #2 Head and shoulders go all the way through the cockpit as you step in with your right foot......... ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Step#3 - Put on your seatbelt, goggles and earplugs......... ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Step #4 - Relax and get ready to enjoy your flight........... ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Step #5 - Enjoy the pretty, rural towns from the air........... ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Step #6 - After landing, thank your pilot for a nice flight............. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Step #7 - Tell the world what you think of Pietenpols! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 10:21:26 AM PST US From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]" Subject: Pietenpol-List: How to be a proper Pietenpol passenger That was an excellent guide Greg. All passengers should be so proper. Mike C. Do not archive ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 10:41:41 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: How to be a proper Pietenpol passenger From: "K5YAC" Rub it in Greg... rub it in. -------- Mark - working on wings Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=274786#274786 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 12:18:32 PM PST US From: Jim Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Fw: How to be a proper Pietenpol passenger Greg, Very nice tutorial on getting in a Piet. Arlene and I enjoyed it; but the only thing missing is the flexibility needed to get that right leg in. Happy Thanksgiving, Jim B. Jim Boyer Santa Rosa, CA Pietenpol on wheels Tail surfaces done Wing ribs done Corvair engine Nov 25, 2009 09:34:16 AM, pietenpol-list@matronics.com wrote: Seven steps to becoming a proper Pietenpol passenger- Step #1 - Left foot on tire, one hand on each cabane........ Step #2 Head and shoulders go all the way through the cockpit as you step in with your right foot......... Step#3 - Put on your seatbelt, goggles and earplugs......... Step #4 - Relax and get ready to enjoy your flight........... Step #5 - Enjoy the pretty, rural towns from the air........... Step #6 - After landing, thank your pilot for a nice flight............. Step #7 - Tell the world what you think of Pietenpols! ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 02:04:15 PM PST US From: "Gary Boothe" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Fw: How to be a proper Pietenpol passenger Greg, I'm crushed! You didn't smile at me like that.. ..but, then, I'm not quite so purtee. Happy Thanksgiving, Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion, mounted Tail done, Fuselage on gear (15 ribs down.) _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of gcardinal Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 9:17 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fw: How to be a proper Pietenpol passenger Seven steps to becoming a proper Pietenpol passenger- Step #1 - Left foot on tire, one hand on each cabane........ _____ Step #2 Head and shoulders go all the way through the cockpit as you step in with your right foot......... _____ Step#3 - Put on your seatbelt, goggles and earplugs......... _____ Step #4 - Relax and get ready to enjoy your flight........... _____ Step #5 - Enjoy the pretty, rural towns from the air........... _____ Step #6 - After landing, thank your pilot for a nice flight............. _____ Step #7 - Tell the world what you think of Pietenpols! _____ ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 04:12:46 PM PST US From: Jack Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: How to be a proper Pietenpol passenger Yes Greg, they should also be light, female, attractive, cute, with shorts... I better stop now! Jack DSM Do not archive Sent from my iPhone On Nov 25, 2009, at 12:19 PM, "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]" wrote: > That was an excellent guide Greg. All passengers should be so > proper. > > > Mike C. > > > Do not archive > > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 05:29:03 PM PST US From: "gcardinal" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Fw: How to be a proper Pietenpol passenger Hi Gary, I'll smile when your legs look as nice......... Greg ----- Original Message ----- From: Gary Boothe To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 4:01 PM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Fw: How to be a proper Pietenpol passenger Greg, I'm crushed! You didn't smile at me like that.. ..but, then, I'm not quite so purtee. Happy Thanksgiving, Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion, mounted Tail done, Fuselage on gear (15 ribs down.) ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 07:03:06 PM PST US From: H RULE Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Fw: How to be a proper Pietenpol passenger He looks like he's ready to shoot the red Baron!!!=0Ado=C2- not archive =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Gary Boothe =0ATo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Wed, November 25 , 2009 5:01:19 PM=0ASubject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Fw: How to be a proper Pie tenpol passenger=0A=0A=0AGreg,=0A=C2-=0AI=99m crushed! You didn =99t smile at me like that.=0A=C2-=0A=C2-=0A.but, then, I=99m not quite so purtee=0A=C2-=0AHappy Thanksgivin g,=0AGary Boothe=0ACool, Ca.=0APietenpol=0AWW Corvair Conversion, mounted =0ATail done,=C2-Fuselage=C2-on gear=0A(15 ribs down)=0A=0A___ _____________________________=0A=0AFrom:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matroni cs.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of gcar dinal=0ASent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 9:17 AM=0ATo: pietenpol-list@mat ronics.com=0ASubject: Pietenpol-List: Fw: How to be a proper Pietenpol pass enger=0A=C2-=0A=0A=C2-=0ASeven steps to becoming a proper Pietenpol pas senger-=0A>=C2-=0A>Step #1 - Left foot on tire, one hand on each cabane.. ......=0A>=0A________________________________=0A=0A>=C2-=0A>=C2-=0A>Ste p #2 Head and shoulders go all the way through the cockpit as you step in w ith your right foot.........=0A>=0A________________________________=0A=0A> =C2-=0A>=C2-=0A>=C2-=0A>Step#3 - Put on your seatbelt, goggles and ea rplugs......... =0A>=0A________________________________=0A=0A>=C2-=0A>=C2 -=0A>=C2-=0A>=C2-=0A>Step #4 - Relax and get ready to enjoy your flig ht........... =0A>=0A________________________________=0A=0A>=C2-=0A>=C2 -=0A>=C2-=0A>Step #5 - Enjoy the pretty, rural towns from the air...... ..... =0A>=0A________________________________=0A=0A>=C2-=0A>=C2-=0A>=C2 -=0A>Step #6 - After landing, thank your pilot for a nice flight......... .... =0A>=0A________________________________=0A=0A>=C2-=0A>=C2-=0A>=C2 -=0A>Step #7 - Tell the world what you think of Pietenpols! =0A>=0A______ __________________________=0A ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 08:28:01 PM PST US From: "Gary Boothe" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Fw: How to be a proper Pietenpol passenger He's thinking, ".I could've offered a ride to a pretty, young, 110 lb sweetheart, instead of this 195 lb old guy." Gary _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of H RULE Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 7:01 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Fw: How to be a proper Pietenpol passenger He looks like he's ready to shoot the red Baron!!! do not archive _____ From: Gary Boothe Sent: Wed, November 25, 2009 5:01:19 PM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Fw: How to be a proper Pietenpol passenger Greg, I'm crushed! You didn't smile at me like that.. ..but, then, I'm not quite so purtee. Happy Thanksgiving, Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion, mounted Tail done, Fuselage on gear (15 ribs down.) _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of gcardinal Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 9:17 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fw: How to be a proper Pietenpol passenger Seven steps to becoming a proper Pietenpol passenger- Step #1 - Left foot on tire, one hand on each cabane........ _____ Step #2 Head and shoulders go all the way through the cockpit as you step in with your right foot......... _____ Step#3 - Put on your seatbelt, goggles and earplugs......... _____ Step #4 - Relax and get ready to enjoy your flight........... _____ Step #5 - Enjoy the pretty, rural towns from the air........... _____ Step #6 - After landing, thank your pilot for a nice flight............. _____ Step #7 - Tell the world what you think of Pietenpols! _____ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message pietenpol-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pietenpol-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/pietenpol-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.