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0. 12:11 AM - What Are You Thankful For...? (Matt Dralle)
1. 04:25 AM - Re: Fw: How to be a proper Pietenpol passenger (H RULE)
2. 05:46 AM - Fw: [flybabylist] Engine avail (from craigslist) (Gene & Tammy)
3. 08:49 AM - Re: covering question-drain grommets (Doug Dever)
4. 10:52 AM - Re: How to be a proper Pietenpol passenger (yocum137)
5. 03:42 PM - Re: covering question-drain grommets (Clif Dawson)
6. 04:46 PM - Re: covering question-drain grommets (Gene Rambo)
7. 07:00 PM - Re: covering question-drain grommets (Kip and Beth Gardner)
8. 07:17 PM - Re: covering question-drain grommets (Tim Willis)
9. 09:06 PM - Re: Re: How to be a proper Pietenpol passenger (gcardinal)
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Subject: | What Are You Thankful For...? |
Dear Listers,
Here in the United States, Thursday is our National day of Thanksgiving. Many
of us will be traveling to be with our families and friends to share in generous
feasts of plenty and giving thanks for many blessings that have been bestowed
upon us.
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One of my favorite comments is when someone writes to me and says something like,
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That's a wonderful tribute to the purpose and function of these Lists.
Its always great to hear I'm not the only one that jumps out of bed each morning
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Won't you take a minute today and show your appreciation for these Lists and for
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Subject: | Re: Fw: How to be a proper Pietenpol passenger |
LOL!! Your probably right on there!=0Ado not archive=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________
________________________=0AFrom: Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net>=0ATo: p
ietenpol-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Wed, November 25, 2009 11:24:47 PM=0ASu
bject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Fw: How to be a proper Pietenpol passenger=0A=0A
=0AHe=99s thinking, =9CI could=99ve offered a ri
de to a pretty, young, 110 lb sweetheart, instead of this 195 lb old guy
=9D=0A=C2-=0AGary=0A=0A________________________________=0A=0A
From:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list
-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of H RULE=0ASent: Wednesday, November 25,
2009 7:01 PM=0ATo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com=0ASubject: Re: Pietenpol-Li
st: Fw: How to be a proper Pietenpol passenger=0A=C2-=0AHe looks like he'
s ready to shoot the red Baron!!!=0Ado=C2- not archive=0A=C2-=0A=0A____
____________________________=0A=0AFrom:Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net>
=0ATo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Wed, November 25, 2009 5:01:19
PM=0ASubject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Fw: How to be a proper Pietenpol passenge
r=0AGreg,=0A=C2-=0AI=99m crushed! You didn=99t smile at me li
ke that.=0A=C2-=0A=C2-=0A.but, then, I=99m not
quite so purtee=0A=C2-=0AHappy Thanksgiving,=0AGary Boothe=0ACoo
l, Ca.=0APietenpol=0AWW Corvair Conversion, mounted=0ATail done,=C2-Fusel
age=C2-on gear=0A(15 ribs down)=0A=0A___________________________
_____=0A=0AFrom:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pie
tenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of gcardinal=0ASent: Wednesday,
November 25, 2009 9:17 AM=0ATo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com=0ASubject: Pi
etenpol-List: Fw: How to be a proper Pietenpol passenger=0A=C2-=0A=0A=C2
-=0ASeven steps to becoming a proper Pietenpol passenger-=0A>=C2-=0A>St
ep #1 - Left foot on tire, one hand on each cabane........=0A>=0A__________
______________________=0A=0A>=C2-=0A>=C2-=0A>Step #2 Head and shoulders
go all the way through the cockpit as you step in with your right foot....
.....=0A>=0A________________________________=0A=0A>=C2-=0A>=C2-=0A>=C2
-=0A>Step#3 - Put on your seatbelt, goggles and earplugs......... =0A>=0A
________________________________=0A=0A>=C2-=0A>=C2-=0A>=C2-=0A>=C2-
=0A>Step #4 - Relax and get ready to enjoy your flight........... =0A>=0A__
______________________________=0A=0A>=C2-=0A>=C2-=0A>=C2-=0A>Step #5
- Enjoy the pretty, rural towns from the air........... =0A>=0A____________
____________________=0A=0A>=C2-=0A>=C2-=0A>=C2-=0A>Step #6 - After la
nding, thank your pilot for a nice flight............. =0A>=0A_____________
___________________=0A=0A>=C2-=0A>=C2-=0A>=C2-=0A>Step #7 - Tell the
world what you think of Pietenpols! =0A>=0A________________________________
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Subject: | Fw: [flybabylist] Engine avail (from craigslist) |
FYI from the flybaby Yahoo site.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: matt
Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 12:31 AM
Subject: [flybabylist] Engine avail (from craigslist)
Continental A65 Aircraft Engine - $950 (Woodland, WA)
Reply to: sale-tfadb-1481226773@craigslist.org [Errors when replying to
ads?]
Continental A-65 Aircraft Engine - $950 OBO - Cash ONLY!
This airplane engine (as you can see from the photos) has the keyed,
tapered crankshaft meant to be used with a wood prop. An adapter was
made to convert from this to the flanged style for a metal prop, but
they are apparently a bit difficult to find.
The engine is complete except for the following:
1. Intake spider
2. Carburetor
3. Magneto's
4. Oil Tank
5. Exhaust System
The engine has been (and remains) completely disassembled. I took the
components to Premier Aircraft in Troutdale, OR and had them inspected
and have the "yellow tags" and other documents from that. The engine
also comes with the basic rebuilt kit which includes a number of new
parts that can be used during the reassembly and a new reprint of the
Continental Maintenance and Overhaul Manual.
The outcome of Premier's analysis was that all the parts are serviceable
(thus the yellow tags. However, one cylinder has some minor pitting
which can be repaired in one of two ways (it would work as it is, but
since it's apart, I would fix it if I planned to use the engine):
1. Bore the cylinder oversize, chrome it then honing it to original
spec's
2. Boring and honing the cylinder oversize and installing the
appropriate oversize piston rings-I am told this also requires that the
other cylinders be bored and oversize rings installed in those, too.
I am not an A&P Mechanic, so I don't honestly know with certainty which
would be preferable...I WAS told by Premier that either would work or
that the cylinder could be left as it is since it meets the original
spec's and is yellow-tagged as such.
I will only sell the engine complete rather than as separate parts
because I would rather not have to try to determine individual part
values. Again I AM NOT AN A&P and am NOT attempting to represent this as
anything more than a used engine, parts of which have been inspected and
pronounced to be serviceable by Premier and, I presume, could be
reassembled and made functional at minimal expense.
If you have questions please reply to this ad with your e-mail address,
name and/or phone and I will contact you ASAP. I have "scans" of the
yellow tags, the engine nameplate, manual cover and other documents I
got from Premier verifying what I paid for the inspections.I will be
happy to send those to you if you want to verify the documents.
I would also prefer to sell this to someone locally who is willing to
pick it up since I think it's best you see what you're buying first. I
will say this one final time: I am NOT an A&P, do not represent myself
as one and am NOT interested in hearing what I DON'T know about this
engine. It is a used engine and carries with it all the potential
problems associated with that---and is being sold "AS IS". I would like
to sell the engine, that's all. Anyone who plays with airplanes knows
there is no "sure thing" when it comes to mechanical issues. Even new
ones break.
I am not listing a phone as I am in and out a lot, but do check my mail
frequently, so I think that's the best method of contacting me.
* Location: Woodland, WA
* it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial
interests
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Subject: | covering question-drain grommets |
I dought that it could create that much suction. Remember there are many ot
her holes in the wing not creating much suction. Root rib comes to mind.
We had them on the Tri-Pacer and the fabric did not even concave at all. a
nd that was at 125mph. And those ribs were not any stronger than the Piets
.
Doug Dever
In beautiful Stow Ohio
From: lnawms@yahoo.com
Subject: Pietenpol-List: covering question-drain grommets
Just remember that if you use too many seaplane grommets on the Pietenpol a
irfoil you risk creating so much suction that it could start collapsing rib
s. This is especially true if you exceed 70 mph which is why I tend to fly
more slowly than most.
Larry
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Subject: | Re: How to be a proper Pietenpol passenger |
Greg
What town is that? I went to high school in Stillwater, MN so I'm sort of a Mud
Duck...
Dan
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=274965#274965
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Subject: | Re: covering question-drain grommets |
Unless you have absolutely sealed off the wing panel, full ply covered
inner end, etc,
then there will be more than enough air entering the panel to take up
the space of
the air sucked out. :-)
Maybe you should use gronicles instead.
Clif
"A person learns to skate by staggering about and making a
fool of himself; indeed, he progresses in all things by
making a fool of himself."
-- George Bernard Shaw, playwright
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: covering question-drain grommets
I dought that it could create that much suction. Remember there are
many other holes in the wing not creating much suction. Root rib comes
to mind. We had them on the Tri-Pacer and the fabric did not even
concave at all. and that was at 125mph. And those ribs were not any
stronger than the Piets.
Doug Dever
In beautiful Stow Ohio
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Subject: | Re: covering question-drain grommets |
At what point did this go from being a very strong leg-pulling to being
taken seriously??
(except my original post where I suggest that there may be a small
incentive to using grommets rather than merely punching holes)
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Doug Dever<mailto:chiefpepperhead@hotmail.com>
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com<mailto:pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 11:49 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: covering question-drain grommets
I dought that it could create that much suction. Remember there are
many other holes in the wing not creating much suction. Root rib comes
to mind. We had them on the Tri-Pacer and the fabric did not even
concave at all. and that was at 125mph. And those ribs were not any
stronger than the Piets.
Doug Dever
In beautiful Stow Ohio
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Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 07:17:57 -0800
From: lnawms@yahoo.com
Subject: Pietenpol-List: covering question-drain grommets
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Just remember that if you use too many seaplane grommets on the
Pietenpol airfoil you risk creating so much suction that it could start
collapsing ribs. This is especially true if you exceed 70 mph which is
why I tend to fly more slowly than most.
Larry
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Subject: | Re: covering question-drain grommets |
About the same time the damn milk jugs got brought up again.
for God's sake, DO NOT ARCHIVE
Kip Gardner
BTW, Happy Thanksgiving Gene.
On Nov 26, 2009, at 7:44 PM, Gene Rambo wrote:
> At what point did this go from being a very strong leg-pulling to
> being taken seriously??
>
> (except my original post where I suggest that there may be a small
> incentive to using grommets rather than merely punching holes)
>
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Doug Dever
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 11:49 AM
> Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: covering question-drain grommets
>
> I dought that it could create that much suction. Remember there are
> many other holes in the wing not creating much suction. Root rib
> comes to mind. We had them on the Tri-Pacer and the fabric did not
> even concave at all. and that was at 125mph. And those ribs were
> not any stronger than the Piets.
>
> Doug Dever
> In beautiful Stow Ohio
>
>
> Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 07:17:57 -0800
> From: lnawms@yahoo.com
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: covering question-drain grommets
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>
> Just remember that if you use too many seaplane grommets on the
> Pietenpol airfoil you risk creating so much suction that it could
> start collapsing ribs. This is especially true if you exceed 70 mph
> which is why I tend to fly more slowly than most.
>
> Larry
>
>
> lectric.com
> /">www.buildersbooks.com
> ebuilthelp.com
> ww.matronics.com/contribution
> st">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
> ronics.com
>
>
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>
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Subject: | Re: covering question-drain grommets |
All right, I am properly chastened. I will not bring up the milk jugs again this
year.
BTW, reverting to form, "grommetites" hang from the wings, whereas "grommetmites"
grow up the jury struts, but only in moist climates.
In all SERIOUSNESS, I cannot believe that any suction from any grommets or burned
drain holes will cause sufficient suction to effect any noticeable collapse
of taut fabric or compression of ribs. If anyone knows otherwise, I would like
to hear more.
Tim in central TX
do NOT archive (repeat) NOT
-----Original Message-----
From: Kip and Beth Gardner
Sent: Nov 26, 2009 9:30 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: covering question-drain grommets
About the same time the damn milk jugs got brought up again.
for God's sake, DO NOT ARCHIVE
Kip Gardner
BTW, Happy Thanksgiving Gene.
On Nov 26, 2009, at 7:44 PM, Gene Rambo wrote:
At what point did this go from being a very strong leg-pulling to being taken seriously??
(except my original post where I suggest that there may be a small incentive to
using grommets rather than merely punching holes)
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Doug Dever
Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 11:49 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: covering question-drain grommets
I dought that it could create that much suction. Remember there are many other
holes in the wing not creating much suction. Root rib comes to mind. We had
them on the Tri-Pacer and the fabric did not even concave at all. and that was
at 125mph. And those ribs were not any stronger than the Piets.
Doug Dever
In beautiful Stow Ohio
From: lnawms@yahoo.com
Subject: Pietenpol-List: covering question-drain grommets
Just remember that if you use too many seaplane grommets on the Pietenpol airfoil
you risk creating so much suction that it could start collapsing ribs. This
is especially true if you exceed 70 mph which is why I tend to fly more slowly
than most.
Larry
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Subject: | Re: How to be a proper Pietenpol passenger |
Hi Dan,
It is the town of Northfield, MN. A slightly higher resolution photo is
attached. It is only a few miles from Stanton where NX18235 is based and is
a nice 15 - 20 minute ride for first time passengers.
Greg Cardinal
----- Original Message -----
From: "yocum137" <yocum@fnal.gov>
Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 12:51 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: How to be a proper Pietenpol passenger
>
> Greg
> What town is that? I went to high school in Stillwater, MN so I'm sort of
> a Mud Duck...
>
> Dan
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=274965#274965
>
>
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