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1. 07:43 AM - Re: winter flying with an A65 (Dan Yocum)
2. 07:52 AM - Re: Re: Semi-OT: An Owl in Slow Motion (Bill Church)
3. 08:02 AM - Re: Question about Aluminum Props (Dan Yocum)
4. 08:12 AM - Re: winter flying with an A65 (Dan Yocum)
5. 09:13 AM - Re: King Training Course (Matt Redmond)
6. 09:30 AM - Re: Question about Aluminum Props (Bill Church)
7. 09:30 AM - Lost my first passenger (helspersew@aol.com)
8. 09:30 AM - Re: winter flying with an A65 (Bill Church)
9. 09:39 AM - Re: Re: Semi-OT: An Owl in Slow Motion (Michael Perez)
10. 09:59 AM - winter flying with an A65 (Oscar Zuniga)
11. 10:03 AM - Re: Lost my first passenger (Gary Boothe)
12. 10:33 AM - Re: Lost my first passenger (mike)
13. 11:39 AM - Re: Richard's sloping nose tank sump (Rick Holland)
14. 11:39 AM - Re: winter flying with an A65 (Tim Willis)
15. 11:39 AM - Re: Lost my first passenger (Jim)
16. 12:45 PM - Re: Lost my first passenger (Mike Whaley)
17. 01:13 PM - Re: Lost my first passenger (Gary Boothe)
18. 03:08 PM - Re: winter flying with an A65 (Gene & Tammy)
19. 03:08 PM - Re: Lost my first passenger (Larry Vetter)
20. 03:24 PM - Re: winter flying with an A65 (Gene & Tammy)
21. 03:26 PM - Re: winter flying with an A65 (Bill Church)
22. 03:36 PM - Re: Lost my first passenger (Gene & Tammy)
23. 04:44 PM - Re: winter flying with an A65 (Gene & Tammy)
24. 07:13 PM - Re: winter flying with an A65 (Dick Navratil)
25. 07:19 PM - Re: Lost my first passenger (Graham Hansen)
26. 07:51 PM - Re: ARMY aviators, and Corvairs (Rick Holland)
27. 09:35 PM - Re: Lost my first passenger (ALAN LYSCARS)
28. 11:06 PM - Corvair Crankshaft (K5YAC)
29. 11:24 PM - Re: Lost my first passenger (Jack)
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| Subject: | Re: winter flying with an A65 |
Gene,
Can you give me an estimate of how much of the opening you block off?
I'm thinking of starting with a single strip (2.5") across the top of
each opening, first.
Thanks,
Dan
Gene & Tammy wrote:
> <zharvey@bentoncountycable.net>
>
> Dan, for what's it worth, I use duct tape to close off a portion of my
> eyebrows in cold weather. White eyebrows, white duct tape and no one
> notices. I would be very suprised if you get your temps up to around
> 140 when it's below freezing. I see 110 to 115. If you do get the
> higher temps, please share how you do it with me.
> Gene in Beautiful sunny Tennessee
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Dan Yocum
Fermilab 630.840.6509
yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
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| Subject: | Re: Semi-OT: An Owl in Slow Motion |
You made me laugh, Michael.
That was funny.
do not archive.
________________________________
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael
Perez
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 6:48 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Semi-OT: An Owl in Slow Motion
I think I can improve the owl airfoil and landing gear.
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| Subject: | Re: Question about Aluminum Props |
Bill,
Looking at the Univair McCauley propellor catalog, page 13-11, I see
that a bunch of the J-3 variants with C-75's used 70-74" props with
pitches ranging from 38-47".
Here's a really, really rotten online pdf of the catalog in question -
I'd recommend looking in the print version if you're interested:
http://www.univairparts.com/pdfs/propeller.pdf
N8031 has a 7442 Met-L-Prop and an A65-8. I don't consider it to be a
great climber, but cruise is pretty darn good at ~88mph at 2180RPM.
And, unlike a Corvair engine it'll get you where you need to go.
At 4.5 gph.
I'm sorry, that was uncalled for, wasn't it? ;-)
Just kiddin', Shad.
Cheers,
Dan
Bill Church wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> I recently made an 1800-mile weekend roadtrip down to Georgia and back to pick
up the engine that will eventually be sitting on the nose of my Piet. 15 hours
there, and 15 hours back home, Saturday morning to Sunday night!
> Anyway, the engine is a C-75-12 that came directly off an Ercoupe (well, off
the plane, then into a hangar for 10 years or so, then into my van), and the aluminum
propeller was still attached. The propeller was included in the sale.
> I was looking at the propeller last night, and was wondering about some of the
markings around the hub. Most of it is clear to me. Made by McCauley, 73" diameter,
51" pitch, Serial number, etc. I've attached a photo. Stamped faintly
into the face ( just below MET-L-PROP, but hard to see in the photo) is the word
"reconditioned". And, at roughly the 2 O'clock position there are two more
numbers stamped into the face, TC842, and PC3 (hours and pitch change, maybe?).
Anyone know what the significance of those two numbers are? I'm wondering if
the prop has been re-pitched (something I would likely want to do to use it on
my Piet, anyway - 51" sounds like too much pitch for a Piet, I think). There
was a timely article in the last issue (I think) of Sport Aviation, about propeller
maintenance, and it indicated that metal props can be re-pitched a total
of 8".
> Any ideas?
>
> Bill C.
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=276872#276872
>
>
>
>
> Attachments:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/prop_data_197.jpg
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>
--
Dan Yocum
Fermilab 630.840.6509
yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
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| Subject: | Re: winter flying with an A65 |
Dan Yocum wrote:
>> need to get air.. I was out flying over NW Wisc last Sat at 24 deg at
>> takeoff . All I use is a kit from Wag Aero that covers the oil tank
>> and intake tubes. Current price is $50.
>
> I must be a dolt because I can't find it on their web site - do you
> happen to have the link handy or is it in their print catalog?
Ah ha! Found it:
http://store.wagaero.com/product_info.php?products_id=1746
Dan
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Dan Yocum
Fermilab 630.840.6509
yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
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| Subject: | Re: King Training Course |
>>>Every pilot that gets his private goes thru the limited IFR training and
a bunch still fly into IFR conditions and kill themselves. Then what's the
answer? I don't have the foggiest. They don't have a test for common
sense.<<<
True enough.
I suppose I shouldn't even have brought it up in a discussion about SP.
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 6:31 PM, Gene & Tammy <zharvey@bentoncountycable.net
> wrote:
> Elevator trim?? What's elevator trim? Who's got elevator trim? Boy,
> these modern planes have everything.
> The reasons you give make sense, but they don't work. Every pilot that
> gets his private goes thru the limited IFR training and a bunch still fly
> into IFR conditions and kill themselves. Then what's the answer? I don't
> have the foggiest. They don't have a test for common sense.
>
> Gene
>
>
> *
>
>
> *
>
>
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| Subject: | Question about Aluminum Props |
Thanks Dan.
You're right, that is a really really rotten PDF.
Why would they even bother to post that to their website?
Bill
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan
Yocum
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 11:01 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Question about Aluminum Props
Bill,
Looking at the Univair McCauley propellor catalog, page 13-11, I see
that a bunch of the J-3 variants with C-75's used 70-74" props with
pitches ranging from 38-47".
Here's a really, really rotten online pdf of the catalog in question -
I'd recommend looking in the print version if you're interested:
http://www.univairparts.com/pdfs/propeller.pdf
N8031 has a 7442 Met-L-Prop and an A65-8. I don't consider it to be a
great climber, but cruise is pretty darn good at ~88mph at 2180RPM.
And, unlike a Corvair engine it'll get you where you need to go.
At 4.5 gph.
I'm sorry, that was uncalled for, wasn't it? ;-)
Just kiddin', Shad.
Cheers,
Dan
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| Subject: | Lost my first passenger |
All,
My kind, wonderful, and beloved father passed away a few days ago. He was
supposed to be my first passenger this coming spring, but I just couldn't
finish fast enough. He would tell everyone he met, anxiously following my
construction progress all these years, and really thought my Piet was "th
e cat's meow".
I talked to my mom, and it was her idea to wait to bury his ashes, until
he finally is able to get "his" ride.
I will miss him very much.
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
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| Subject: | winter flying with an A65 |
Hmmmm...
Duct tape on your eyebrows, and no-one notices?
Maybe they're just being polite.
White eyebrows, white duct tape.
So,
Grey eyebrows, grey duct tape.
Black eyebrows, black duct tape.
But what if you're a redhead?
Do NOT archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gene &
Tammy
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 6:04 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: winter flying with an A65
--> <zharvey@bentoncountycable.net>
Dan, for what's it worth, I use duct tape to close off a portion of my
eyebrows in cold weather. White eyebrows, white duct tape and no one
notices. I would be very suprised if you get your temps up to around
140
when it's below freezing. I see 110 to 115. If you do get the higher
temps, please share how you do it with me.
Gene in Beautiful sunny Tennessee
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| Subject: | Re: Semi-OT: An Owl in Slow Motion |
-
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8^)
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--- On Fri, 12/11/09, Bill Church <eng@canadianrogers.com> wrote:
From: Bill Church <eng@canadianrogers.com>
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Semi-OT: An Owl in Slow Motion
You made me laugh, Michael.
That was funny.
-
do not archive.
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-lis
t-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael Perez
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 6:48 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Semi-OT: An Owl in Slow Motion
I think I can improve the owl airfoil and landing gear.
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| Subject: | winter flying with an A65 |
I still have all of my ski gear from when we lived in Oregon
and that's all I would wear in the coldest of weather...
long johns, ski bib, turtleneck, ski jacket, gloves,
rabbit fur hat, goggles. I also have a face mask for when
the wind is really cold and stinging. The one piece of
gear I would probably have trouble with in the Piet is
heavy winter footwear because it is
trouble enough as it is to get my shoes in onto the rudder
bar; I can't imagine trying to get in with heavy insulated
boots.
Dick is 100% correct on covering the front cockpit and
I'm going to try to make a winter cover because that's
where the really bad draft comes from, right up your pants
legs.
I'm not sure where the rest of the discussion went off the
track though, because the next posts we're likely to see
will be about flying winter IFR in the Piet, in full winter
garb, while attempting the dual mile-high rating. Now there
is an interesting mental picture.
Oscar Zuniga
Air Camper NX41CC
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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| Subject: | Lost my first passenger |
Dan,
Brings a tear to my eye - my heart is definitely with you.
I lost my Dad last year, but his ashes will get a ride with me, too..
Gary Boothe
Cool, Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion, mounted
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
(16 ribs down.)
Do not archive
_____
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
helspersew@aol.com
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 9:26 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Lost my first passenger
All,
My kind, wonderful, and beloved father passed away a few days ago. He was
supposed to be my first passenger this coming spring, but I just couldn't
finish fast enough. He would tell everyone he met, anxiously following my
construction progress all these years, and really thought my Piet was "the
cat's meow".
I talked to my mom, and it was her idea to wait to bury his ashes, until he
finally is able to get "his" ride.
I will miss him very much.
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
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| Subject: | Lost my first passenger |
Dan,
You have the condolences of all of us who have had good dads, now gone.
If your dad was like mine, you'll miss him the rest of your life.
Mike Hardaway
_____
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
helspersew@aol.com
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 9:26 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Lost my first passenger
All,
My kind, wonderful, and beloved father passed away a few days ago. He was
supposed to be my first passenger this coming spring, but I just couldn't
finish fast enough. He would tell everyone he met, anxiously following my
construction progress all these years, and really thought my Piet was "the
cat's meow".
I talked to my mom, and it was her idea to wait to bury his ashes, until he
finally is able to get "his" ride.
I will miss him very much.
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
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| Subject: | Re: Richard's sloping nose tank sump |
Hey Rick
I fit my 17 gal tank to fit between the tray in front of the front inst
panel and the ash support at the firewall without an extension (SS straps
underneath). Using .05" aluminum is a good idea also, I used the thinner
stuff and it was a real challenge to weld even with a tig welder.
Rick
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 8:57 AM, Richard Schreiber <lmforge@earthlink.net>w
rote:
> Mike,
> I basically followed your design, except I do not have the rear extension
.
> Since I originally was going to use a wing tank, I put in the forward bow
to
> support the cowling (see the attached photo). With the bow in place there
> was no way I could get the extension on the tank to fit, unless I made th
e
> tank smaller or cut off the bow. I am using two stainless support straps
for
> and aft as you show, plus an additional strap across the top. In a good
> negative g jolt I don't want to just rely on the cowling and the fuel lin
e
> to hold the tank in place.
>
> I will try and place the tank as high as possible to get as much fuel
> pressure as I can, In addition I will put a forward facing tube in the fu
el
> cap to try and get a little ram air pressure.
>
> My welder wants me to try and flange the rounded top of the front and bac
k
> of the tank. Since I am going to use a wood form to do the flanging I'll
> practice some when my aluminum comes in. Since I am going with 0.05"
> aluminum, flanging the top may be a problem.
>
> Rick S
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]<michael.d.
cuy@nasa.gov>
> *To: *pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> *Sent:* 12/10/2009 7:24:58 AM
> *Subject:* Pietenpol-List: Richard's sloping nose tank sump
>
> Richard,
>
>
> You described to a tee how I designed the shape of my nose tank. (photo
> attached and more sketches can
>
> be found at: http://www.westcoastpiet.com/design_sketches.htm
>
>
> I followed Bingelis=92s fuel tank design advice and used his minimum fuel
> flow (at the carb fuel supply hose)
>
> chart for my engine. I placed the airplane on an earthen barn ramp to
> simulate climb angle and the chart
>
> Bingelis has shows the amount of fuel (gravity flow) needed at full takeo
ff
> power for your horsepower.
>
>
> I used a graduated plastic Tupperware-like translucent Kool Aid type
> pitcher/container and my second hand
>
> on my watch to time the volume of fuel flowing at various quantities of
> fuel remaining in the tank until the
>
> magic number fell below the =93useable fuel=94 flow volume per unit time.
>
>
> My fuel flow experiment showed that of my 17 gallons in the nose tank tha
t
> the unusable amount was 1.5
>
> gallons remaining so essentially about 15 gallons were usable. Keep in
> mind that at the 1.5 gallons of
>
> fuel remaining and my weight being 200 pounds creates a CG condition that
> is pretty tail heavy
>
> (not beyond limits but requiring a decent amount of forward stick to
> maintain level flight)
>
>
> Mike C.
>
>
> *[image:
> http://www.westcoastpiet.com/images/Mike%20Cuy%20A-65%20Piet/PietNoseTank
Sketch.jpg.jpg]
> ***
>
> * *
>
> * *
>
>
--
Rick Holland
Castle Rock, Colorado
"Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"
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| Subject: | Re: winter flying with an A65 |
Once again Oscar has created a vivid mental image of flying, this time involving
cockpit aerobatics.
Tim in central TX
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-----Original Message-----
>From: Oscar Zuniga <taildrags@hotmail.com>
>Sent: Dec 11, 2009 11:58 AM
>To: Pietenpol List <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Pietenpol-List: winter flying with an A65
>
>
>
>I still have all of my ski gear from when we lived in Oregon
>and that's all I would wear in the coldest of weather...
>long johns, ski bib, turtleneck, ski jacket, gloves,
>rabbit fur hat, goggles. I also have a face mask for when
>the wind is really cold and stinging. The one piece of
>gear I would probably have trouble with in the Piet is
>heavy winter footwear because it is
>trouble enough as it is to get my shoes in onto the rudder
>bar; I can't imagine trying to get in with heavy insulated
>boots.
>
>Dick is 100% correct on covering the front cockpit and
>I'm going to try to make a winter cover because that's
>where the really bad draft comes from, right up your pants
>legs.
>
>I'm not sure where the rest of the discussion went off the
>track though, because the next posts we're likely to see
>will be about flying winter IFR in the Piet, in full winter
>garb, while attempting the dual mile-high rating. Now there
>is an interesting mental picture.
>
>Oscar Zuniga
>Air Camper NX41CC
>San Antonio, TX
>mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
>website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
>
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| Subject: | Re: Lost my first passenger |
My dad passed away over 20 years ago and I still miss him. He taught me how to
fly and was my safety pilot when practicing IFR. Dad learned to fly in 1927; used
to tease him that he learned to fly when it was dangerous.
Sorry about your dad Dan; you will miss him.
Jim B.
Jim Boyer
Santa Rosa, CA
Pietenpol on wheels
Tail surfaces done
Wing ribs done
Corvair engine
On Dec 11, 2009, helspersew@aol.com wrote:
All,My kind, wonderful, and beloved father passed away a few days ago.He was supposed
to be my first passenger this coming spring, but I just couldn't finish
fast enough. He would tell everyone he met, anxiously followingmy construction
progress all these years, and really thought my Piet was "the cat's meow".I
talked to my mom, and it was her idea to wait to bury his ashes, until he finally
is able to get "his" ride.I will miss him very much.Dan HelsperPoplar Grove,
IL.
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| Subject: | Re: Lost my first passenger |
Dan,
So sorry to hear that. I'm sure he's watching the project from heaven with a
big smile on his face and rooting for you at every step of the process!
I hope this doesn't sound too weird, but... maybe you could get a small
metal capsule made up and place a small portion of your dad's ashes in it,
and permanently mount it into the airplane. That way, in a tangible sense,
he will be there to share in EVERY flight!
At least he won't have to wait for you to fly off the 40 hours of test time.
-Mike
Mike Whaley
MerlinFAC@cfl.rr.com
----- Original Message -----
From: <helspersew@aol.com>
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 12:25 PM
Subject: [piet] Pietenpol-List: Lost my first passenger
All,
My kind, wonderful, and beloved father passed away a few days ago. He was
supposed to be my first passenger this coming spring, but I just couldn't
finish fast enough. He would tell everyone he met, anxiously following my
construction progress all these years, and really thought my Piet was "the
cat's meow".
I talked to my mom, and it was her idea to wait to bury his ashes, until he
finally is able to get "his" ride.
I will miss him very much.
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
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| Subject: | Lost my first passenger |
Mike,
Don't know about Dan, but I have been contemplating that very thing.
Probably hide the container behind an instrument panel, out of sight.
Gary Boothe
Cool, Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion, mounted
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
(16 ribs down.)
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mike Whaley
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 12:46 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Lost my first passenger
Dan,
So sorry to hear that. I'm sure he's watching the project from heaven with a
big smile on his face and rooting for you at every step of the process!
I hope this doesn't sound too weird, but... maybe you could get a small
metal capsule made up and place a small portion of your dad's ashes in it,
and permanently mount it into the airplane. That way, in a tangible sense,
he will be there to share in EVERY flight!
At least he won't have to wait for you to fly off the 40 hours of test time.
-Mike
Mike Whaley
MerlinFAC@cfl.rr.com
----- Original Message -----
From: <helspersew@aol.com>
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 12:25 PM
Subject: [piet] Pietenpol-List: Lost my first passenger
All,
My kind, wonderful, and beloved father passed away a few days ago. He was
supposed to be my first passenger this coming spring, but I just couldn't
finish fast enough. He would tell everyone he met, anxiously following my
construction progress all these years, and really thought my Piet was "the
cat's meow".
I talked to my mom, and it was her idea to wait to bury his ashes, until he
finally is able to get "his" ride.
I will miss him very much.
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
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| Subject: | Re: winter flying with an A65 |
Ya, your probably right, but then N502R has never tried to be a hanger
queen.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Church" <eng@canadianrogers.com>
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 11:29 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: winter flying with an A65
> <eng@canadianrogers.com>
>
> Hmmmm...
>
> Duct tape on your eyebrows, and no-one notices?
> Maybe they're just being polite.
>
>
> White eyebrows, white duct tape.
>
> So,
> Grey eyebrows, grey duct tape.
> Black eyebrows, black duct tape.
>
> But what if you're a redhead?
>
> Do NOT archive
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gene &
> Tammy
> Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 6:04 PM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: winter flying with an A65
>
> --> <zharvey@bentoncountycable.net>
>
> Dan, for what's it worth, I use duct tape to close off a portion of my
> eyebrows in cold weather. White eyebrows, white duct tape and no one
> notices. I would be very suprised if you get your temps up to around
> 140
> when it's below freezing. I see 110 to 115. If you do get the higher
> temps, please share how you do it with me.
> Gene in Beautiful sunny Tennessee
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Lost my first passenger |
Dan,
You have my condolences as well You will find at times you miss him even more
than you do now. I was lucky enough to be able to have my dad fly with me( not
in a plane I built).
Your dad will always be with you....The idea of a small container with some of
his ashes isn't a bad idea.
Best wishes.
Larry
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| Subject: | Re: winter flying with an A65 |
Dan, I leave about an inch open and that seems to work well in temps below
45 degrees. I very seldom fly for more than an hour at a time. Work has
been crazy but if I get time to get to the hanger this weekend I'll get a
photo.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Yocum" <yocum@fnal.gov>
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 9:37 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: winter flying with an A65
>
> Gene,
>
> Can you give me an estimate of how much of the opening you block off?
> I'm thinking of starting with a single strip (2.5") across the top of
> each opening, first.
>
> Thanks,
> Dan
>
>
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| Subject: | winter flying with an A65 |
Gene, just to be clear, I wasn't referring to your plane.
You wrote that you put duct tape on YOUR eyebrows (not your engine's
eyebrows).
See, I thought it strange that no-one noticed the duct tape ... Oh,
never mind.
It was just a (very) little joke.
And now it's a joke with an explanation. Aren't those the best kind?
Bill
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gene &
Tammy
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 6:07 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: winter flying with an A65
--> <zharvey@bentoncountycable.net>
Ya, your probably right, but then N502R has never tried to be a hanger
queen.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Church" <eng@canadianrogers.com>
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 11:29 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: winter flying with an A65
> <eng@canadianrogers.com>
>
> Hmmmm...
>
> Duct tape on your eyebrows, and no-one notices?
> Maybe they're just being polite.
>
>
> White eyebrows, white duct tape.
>
> So,
> Grey eyebrows, grey duct tape.
> Black eyebrows, black duct tape.
>
> But what if you're a redhead?
>
> Do NOT archive
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gene &
> Tammy
> Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 6:04 PM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: winter flying with an A65
>
> --> <zharvey@bentoncountycable.net>
>
> Dan, for what's it worth, I use duct tape to close off a portion of my
> eyebrows in cold weather. White eyebrows, white duct tape and no one
> notices. I would be very suprised if you get your temps up to around
> 140
> when it's below freezing. I see 110 to 115. If you do get the
higher
> temps, please share how you do it with me.
> Gene in Beautiful sunny Tennessee
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Lost my first passenger |
Dan, I would like to add my condolences. I lost my my Dad 26 years ago
and I still think of him every day.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: helspersew@aol.com
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 11:25 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Lost my first passenger
All,
My kind, wonderful, and beloved father passed away a few days ago. He
was supposed to be my first passenger this coming spring, but I just
couldn't finish fast enough. He would tell everyone he met, anxiously
following my construction progress all these years, and really thought
my Piet was "the cat's meow".
I talked to my mom, and it was her idea to wait to bury his ashes,
until he finally is able to get "his" ride.
I will miss him very much.
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
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| Subject: | Re: winter flying with an A65 |
Oh Dah! I really missed that one. My wife just walked into the room to see
what I was laughing about. She thinks duct tape on my eyebrows would be an
improvement.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Church" <eng@canadianrogers.com>
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 5:25 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: winter flying with an A65
> <eng@canadianrogers.com>
>
>
> Gene, just to be clear, I wasn't referring to your plane.
> You wrote that you put duct tape on YOUR eyebrows (not your engine's
> eyebrows).
> See, I thought it strange that no-one noticed the duct tape ... Oh,
> never mind.
> It was just a (very) little joke.
>
> And now it's a joke with an explanation. Aren't those the best kind?
>
> Bill
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: winter flying with an A65 |
Dan
I have the Wag Aero March 09 catalog in front of me. On page 44 in the
bottom left corner. Part # I-831-000
Dick
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Yocum" <yocum@fnal.gov>
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 10:07 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: winter flying with an A65
>
>
> Dan Yocum wrote:
>
>>> need to get air.. I was out flying over NW Wisc last Sat at 24 deg at
>>> takeoff . All I use is a kit from Wag Aero that covers the oil tank and
>>> intake tubes. Current price is $50.
>>
>> I must be a dolt because I can't find it on their web site - do you
>> happen to have the link handy or is it in their print catalog?
>
> Ah ha! Found it:
>
> http://store.wagaero.com/product_info.php?products_id=1746
>
> Dan
>
> --
> Dan Yocum
> Fermilab 630.840.6509
> yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
> "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Lost my first passenger |
Dan Helsper,
I know how you feel, having lost my father some 35 years ago. He was
almost 83 when he died and rode with me in my Pietenpol a number of
times during the early 1970s. He was always keen to "go for a fly", as
he put it, and never turned down an opportunity to do so.
If he were still around, I'm sure he would find a way to climb into the
front cockpit of the old Pietenpol. Even now, I often think of him when
flying my Pietenpol and will always miss him--on the ground and in the
air.
Your dad will always be with you in your thoughts and memories, as my
dad is in mine.
With sympathy,
Graham Hansen (Pietenpol CF-AUN in chilly Alberta, Canada)
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Re: ARMY aviators, and Corvairs |
Unsafe at any speed.
rh
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 4:09 AM, Robert Ray <rray032003@gmail.com> wrote:
> I feel safer flying one than driving one!
>
> Russell
>
> On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 8:48 PM, shad bell <aviatorbell@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> What is it with Army aviators and Piets with Corvairs? HA HA, Mr
>> Kevin, that is a beutiful Piet! The reason I ask the question is my father
>> is an old Nam OH-58 crew chief, UH-1 door gunner, and by God he chose a
>> Corvair. Must be some reason, helicopters are contankerous (Spelling?) and
>> corvairs can be from time to time. Maybe just because it can be done?
>> Maybe it's the challange? What ever it is it works! My hats off to you
>> Kevin, keep enjoying flying the friendly skies in your Piet, and Thank you
>> for keeping them that way for the rest of us.
>>
>> Thank YOU,
>> Shad
>>
>> *
>>
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>> .com/" target="_blank">www.buildersbooks.com
>> ="_blank">www.homebuilthelp.com
>> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>> " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
>> ttp://forums.matronics.com
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Rick Holland
Castle Rock, Colorado
"Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"
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Dan,
Very sorry to learn your Dad has Gone West. I know this may sound
trite, but I truly believe that he will still be with you on your first
flight.
Al Lyscars
Manchester, NH
----- Original Message -----
From: helspersew@aol.com
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 12:25 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Lost my first passenger
All,
My kind, wonderful, and beloved father passed away a few days ago. He
was supposed to be my first passenger this coming spring, but I just
couldn't finish fast enough. He would tell everyone he met, anxiously
following my construction progress all these years, and really thought
my Piet was "the cat's meow".
I talked to my mom, and it was her idea to wait to bury his ashes,
until he finally is able to get "his" ride.
I will miss him very much.
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
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| Subject: | Corvair Crankshaft |
Just a short note to say that I got my crankshaft back from Moldex Crankshaft in
Michigan today. What a Beeeauty!! I know this may not be forum worthy, but
I am excited to get my first converted engine part in my hands. The heart of
my power plant. It is nice and clean and shiny... nitride coated, perfect radius
on the journals and mirror smooth polishing work. This looks like a totally
different crank from the one I sent in, but I know it is the same... I dig
it. 8)
Old crusty, nasty, broken crank on the bottom. Nice, clean, fresh and polished
crank on the top.
--------
Mark - working on wings
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| Subject: | Re: Lost my first passenger |
Sad news Dan, my thoughts are with you.
Jack
DSM
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 11, 2009, at 11:25 AM, helspersew@aol.com wrote:
> All,
>
> My kind, wonderful, and beloved father passed away a few days ago.
> He was supposed to be my first passenger this coming spring, but I
> just couldn't finish fast enough. He would tell everyone he met,
> anxiously following my construction progress all these years, and
> really thought my Piet was "the cat's meow".
>
> I talked to my mom, and it was her idea to wait to bury his ashes,
> until he finally is able to get "his" ride.
>
> I will miss him very much.
>
> Dan Helsper
> Poplar Grove, IL.
>
>
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