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1. 12:13 AM - 2009 List of Contributors (Matt Dralle)
2. 04:00 AM - Re: Progress from Cool Propeller Co. (helspersew@aol.com)
3. 05:59 AM - Re: Progress from Cool Propeller Co. (Gary Boothe)
4. 10:03 AM - Re: Re: ELSA registration (Ray Krause)
5. 11:50 AM - Re: Progress from Cool Propeller Co. (Jim)
6. 01:37 PM - Re: Progress from Cool Propeller Co. (Gary Boothe)
7. 05:12 PM - progress! (Douwe Blumberg)
8. 05:23 PM - Re: progress! (Gene Rambo)
9. 05:27 PM - Re: progress! (Jack)
10. 06:23 PM - Re: progress! (John Recine)
11. 06:29 PM - Re: Progress from Cool Propeller Co. (Darrel Jones)
12. 08:05 PM - Re: Re: Progress from Cool Propeller Co. (Jim)
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| Subject: | 2009 List of Contributors |
Dear Listers,
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Thanks again to everyone that made a Contribution this year!!
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| Subject: | Re: Progress from Cool Propeller Co. |
Gary,
Looks very nice so far. Yes, the mind tends to wander with that chain saw
in your hands for so long. So concentration is a must. How did you find
working with hickory?
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net>
Sent: Sun, Dec 20, 2009 6:48 pm
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Progress from Cool Propeller Co.
Still a long ways to go, but the good news is that I managed to get thru
the chainsaw work and keep all my digits, and, so far, I have not taken
off too much wood! The final shaping will take longer than I thought, as
it=99s easy to get fatigued and lose concentration
Gary Boothe
Cool, Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion, mounted
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
(16 ribs down)
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| Subject: | Progress from Cool Propeller Co. |
Dan,
All my struts are Hickory, also, so the feel was not unusual. It is plenty
hard, and the grain can be somewhat directional, affecting how I use the
spoke shave. In his book, Alvin Schuster, warns about the eye-choking dust
from a bench grinder and a sanding pad. He wasn't exaggerating, but it sure
cleaned up the saw cuts in a hurry!
Gary Boothe
Cool, Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion, mounted
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
(16 ribs down.)
_____
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
helspersew@aol.com
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 3:59 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Progress from Cool Propeller Co.
Gary,
Looks very nice so far. Yes, the mind tends to wander with that chain saw in
your hands for so long. So concentration is a must. How did you find working
with hickory?
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net>
Sent: Sun, Dec 20, 2009 6:48 pm
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Progress from Cool Propeller Co.
Still a long ways to go, but the good news is that I managed to get thru the
chainsaw work and keep all my digits, and, so far, I have not taken off too
much wood! The final shaping will take longer than I thought, as it's easy
to get fatigued and lose concentration.
Gary Boothe
Cool, Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion, mounted
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
(16 ribs down.)
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| Subject: | Re: ELSA registration |
Gene,
Some believe that an ELSA is easier to sell than an EAB. The buyer of an
ELSA only needs to take a 3 day course and he/she may then do the "Condition
Inspection" and sign it off. The buyer of an EAB will always have to have
an A&P, IA do the inspection; unless the former owner will do it for you.
That is one reason I have my Waiex certified as ELSA,,, and it was easy to
do.
Thanks,
Ray Krause
N51YX, Waiex, TD, Jab 3300 (1197), AeroCarb, Sensinich 54X62 wood prop,
Dynon D-180, Garmin SL-30, 327, 296, 167 hrs.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene & Tammy" <zharvey@bentoncountycable.net>
Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 2:41 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: ELSA registration
> <zharvey@bentoncountycable.net>
>
> Don, there are no benefits that I see. Even if you didn't build your
> experimental you can still do all the work on it yourself. You just need
> a "Conditional Inspection" performed by any A & P, every year. The up
> side is that an Experimental is much easier to sell than a ELSA. By the
> way, The Avid is a wonderful airplane.
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Don Emch" <EmchAir@aol.com>
> To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 2:55 PM
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: ELSA registration
>
>
>>
>> My Piet is just registered as Experimental. Right now I just fly it
>> within the Sport Pilot guidelines. Which really means I just fly it
>> without a medical versus flying it with a medical. I really don't know
>> of any advantages to trying to get the Avid registered as an ELSA.
>> Anyone else know of any benefits?
>>
>> Don Emch
>> NX899DE
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>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=278155#278155
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> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> 08:33:00
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| Subject: | Re: Progress from Cool Propeller Co. |
Its looking good Gary. What diameter and pitch are you working for? Doing all the
final smoothing and matching of each blade does look like a lot of work; but
think of the good feeling you will have when done.
Jim B.
Jim Boyer
Santa Rosa, CA
Pietenpol on wheels
Tail surfaces done
Wing ribs done
Corvair engine
On Dec 20, 2009, Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote:
Still a long ways to go, but the good news is that I managed to get thru the chainsaw
work and keep all my digits, and, so far, I have not taken off too much
wood! The final shaping will take longer than I thought, as its easy to get fatigued
and lose concentration
Gary Boothe
Cool, Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion, mounted
Tail done,Fuselageon gear
(16 ribs down)
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| Subject: | Progress from Cool Propeller Co. |
66/34 or 64/34. It's really not that hard...just exacting. I am finding that
I need to be in the right frame of mind - no distractions, etc...
Gary Boothe
Cool, Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion, mounted
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
(16 ribs down)
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 11:49 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Progress from Cool Propeller Co.
Its looking good Gary. What diameter and pitch are you working for? Doing
all the final smoothing and matching of each blade does look like a lot of
work; but think of the good feeling you will have when done.
Jim B.
Jim Boyer
Santa Rosa, CA
Pietenpol on wheels
Tail surfaces done
Wing ribs done
Corvair engine
On Dec 20, 2009, Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote:
Still a long ways to go, but the good news is that I managed to get thru the
chainsaw work and keep all my digits, and, so far, I have not taken off too
much wood! The final shaping will take longer than I thought, as its easy
to get fatigued and lose concentration
Gary Boothe
Cool, Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion, mounted
Tail done,Fuselageon gear
(16 ribs down)
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Today was a BIG day here. After a couple of years, we put the finished wings on
the finished fuse of 799B!!
I can't describe how rewarding and exciting it was to see the whole thing together
and pretty much finished, I've never seen the paint scheme all together until
now (except for in my sketches) I'm really pleased with it.
I'm hoping to get all the little tidbits finished this month and get inspected
soon so I can get it broken down and to the airport (it's in my studio right now)
Keep building!!
Douwe
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photos photos photos!!!!!
----- Original Message -----
From: Douwe Blumberg<mailto:douweblumberg@earthlink.net>
To: pietenpolgroup<mailto:pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 8:10 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: progress!
<douweblumberg@earthlink.net<mailto:douweblumberg@earthlink.net>>
Today was a BIG day here. After a couple of years, we put the
finished wings on the finished fuse of 799B!!
I can't describe how rewarding and exciting it was to see the whole
thing together and pretty much finished, I've never seen the paint
scheme all together until now (except for in my sketches) I'm really
pleased with it.
I'm hoping to get all the little tidbits finished this month and get
inspected soon so I can get it broken down and to the airport (it's in
my studio right now)
Keep building!!
Douwe
www.aeroelectric.com<http://www.aeroelectric.com/>
www.buildersbooks.com<http://www.buildersbooks.com/>
www.homebuilthelp.com<http://www.homebuilthelp.com/>
http://www.matronics.com/contribution<http://www.matronics.com/contributi
on>
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List<http://www.matronics.co
m/Navigator?Pietenpol-List>
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Congrats Douwe! Do you have a picture?
Jack
DAM
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 21, 2009, at 7:10 PM, Douwe Blumberg
<douweblumberg@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >
>
> Today was a BIG day here. After a couple of years, we put the
> finished wings on the finished fuse of 799B!!
>
> I can't describe how rewarding and exciting it was to see the whole
> thing together and pretty much finished, I've never seen the paint
> scheme all together until now (except for in my sketches) I'm
> really pleased with it.
>
> I'm hoping to get all the little tidbits finished this month and get
> inspected soon so I can get it broken down and to the airport (it's
> in my studio right now)
>
> Keep building!!
>
> Douwe
>
>
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That's great Dowe, now when do we get to see it?
Do not archive
John
------Original Message------
From: Douwe Blumberg
Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
ReplyTo: Pietenpol builders Board
Subject: Pietenpol-List: progress!
Sent: Dec 21, 2009 8:10 PM
Today was a BIG day here. After a couple of years, we put the finished wings on
the finished fuse of 799B!!
I can't describe how rewarding and exciting it was to see the whole thing together
and pretty much finished, I've never seen the paint scheme all together until
now (except for in my sketches) I'm really pleased with it.
I'm hoping to get all the little tidbits finished this month and get inspected
soon so I can get it broken down and to the airport (it's in my studio right now)
Keep building!!
Douwe
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
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| Subject: | Re: Progress from Cool Propeller Co. |
Gary,
Is the prop going to be constant speed or ground adjustable? Do you need
to carry the chain saw with you or can you borrow one after you land?
Inquiring minds want to know.
BTW, did you call Dale's about the balancers to see if he would take
fewer in an order for a group discount? I know he had been out of town
last time the topic was discussed. Even if we can't get the discount
I'll plan on shipping a couple up with Jim's so we can share the
shipping costs. Jim, when did you need your balancer?
Great prop Gary. You've got me thoroughly intimidated.
Darrel
> On Dec 20, 2009, Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> Still a long ways to go, but the good news is that I managed to get thru the
chainsaw work and keep all my digits, and, so far, I have not taken off too much
wood! The final shaping will take longer than I thought, as its easy to get
fatigued and lose concentration
>
>
>
>
> Gary Boothe
> Cool, Ca.
> Pietenpol
> WW Corvair Conversion, mounted
> Tail done, Fuselage on gear
> (16 ribs down)
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Progress from Cool Propeller Co. |
Keep us updated on your progress on the prop. It looks like you have a very good
start. I can understand when removing material you can only go back and forth
from blade to blade so many times. Loud noises make me stressed out so I'm not
sure the chain saw is a good way to go for me.
Jim B.
Jim Boyer
Santa Rosa, CA
Pietenpol on wheels
Tail surfaces done
Wing ribs done
Corvair engine
On Dec 21, 2009, Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote:
66/34 or 64/34. It's really not that hard...just exacting. I am finding that
I need to be in the right frame of mind - no distractions, etc...
Gary Boothe
Cool, Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion, mounted
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
(16 ribs down)
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 11:49 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Progress from Cool Propeller Co.
Its looking good Gary. What diameter and pitch are you working for? Doing
all the final smoothing and matching of each blade does look like a lot of
work; but think of the good feeling you will have when done.
Jim B.
Jim Boyer
Santa Rosa, CA
Pietenpol on wheels
Tail surfaces done
Wing ribs done
Corvair engine
On Dec 20, 2009, Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote:
Still a long ways to go, but the good news is that I managed to get thru the
chainsaw work and keep all my digits, and, so far, I have not taken off too
much wood! The final shaping will take longer than I thought, as its easy
to get fatigued and lose concentration
Gary Boothe
Cool, Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion, mounted
Tail done,Fuselageon gear
(16 ribs down)
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