---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 12/21/09: 12 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:13 AM - 2009 List of Contributors (Matt Dralle) 2. 04:00 AM - Re: Progress from Cool Propeller Co. (helspersew@aol.com) 3. 05:59 AM - Re: Progress from Cool Propeller Co. (Gary Boothe) 4. 10:03 AM - Re: Re: ELSA registration (Ray Krause) 5. 11:50 AM - Re: Progress from Cool Propeller Co. (Jim) 6. 01:37 PM - Re: Progress from Cool Propeller Co. (Gary Boothe) 7. 05:12 PM - progress! (Douwe Blumberg) 8. 05:23 PM - Re: progress! (Gene Rambo) 9. 05:27 PM - Re: progress! (Jack) 10. 06:23 PM - Re: progress! (John Recine) 11. 06:29 PM - Re: Progress from Cool Propeller Co. (Darrel Jones) 12. 08:05 PM - Re: Re: Progress from Cool Propeller Co. (Jim) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:13:31 AM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: Pietenpol-List: 2009 List of Contributors Dear Listers, The 2009 Matronics Email List and Forum Fund Raiser officially ended a couple of weeks ago and its time that I publish this year's List of Contributors. Its the people on this list that directly make the Email Lists and Forums possible. Their generous contributions keep the servers and Internet connection up and running. You can still show your support this year and pick up a great gift at the same time. The Contribution Web Site is fast, easy, and secure: http://www.matronics.com/contribution I also want to thank Bob, Jon, Andy, and John for their generous support through the supply of great gifts this year!! These guys have some great products and I encourage you to visit their respective web sites: Bob Nucklolls - AeroElectric - www.aeroelectric.com Jon Croke - HomebuiltHELP - www.homebuilthelp.com Andy Gold - The Builder's Bookstore - www.buildersbooks.com John Caldwell - HowToCrimp - www.howtocrimp.com And finally, I'm proud to present The 2009 Fund Raiser List of Contributors: http://www.matronics.com/loc/2009.html Thanks again to everyone that made a Contribution this year!! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:00:00 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Progress from Cool Propeller Co. From: helspersew@aol.com Gary, Looks very nice so far. Yes, the mind tends to wander with that chain saw in your hands for so long. So concentration is a must. How did you find working with hickory? Dan Helsper Poplar Grove, IL. -----Original Message----- From: Gary Boothe Sent: Sun, Dec 20, 2009 6:48 pm Subject: Pietenpol-List: Progress from Cool Propeller Co. Still a long ways to go, but the good news is that I managed to get thru the chainsaw work and keep all my digits, and, so far, I have not taken off too much wood! The final shaping will take longer than I thought, as it=99s easy to get fatigued and lose concentration Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion, mounted Tail done, Fuselage on gear (16 ribs down) ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:59:59 AM PST US From: "Gary Boothe" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Progress from Cool Propeller Co. Dan, All my struts are Hickory, also, so the feel was not unusual. It is plenty hard, and the grain can be somewhat directional, affecting how I use the spoke shave. In his book, Alvin Schuster, warns about the eye-choking dust from a bench grinder and a sanding pad. He wasn't exaggerating, but it sure cleaned up the saw cuts in a hurry! Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion, mounted Tail done, Fuselage on gear (16 ribs down.) _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of helspersew@aol.com Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 3:59 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Progress from Cool Propeller Co. Gary, Looks very nice so far. Yes, the mind tends to wander with that chain saw in your hands for so long. So concentration is a must. How did you find working with hickory? Dan Helsper Poplar Grove, IL. -----Original Message----- From: Gary Boothe Sent: Sun, Dec 20, 2009 6:48 pm Subject: Pietenpol-List: Progress from Cool Propeller Co. Still a long ways to go, but the good news is that I managed to get thru the chainsaw work and keep all my digits, and, so far, I have not taken off too much wood! The final shaping will take longer than I thought, as it's easy to get fatigued and lose concentration. Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion, mounted Tail done, Fuselage on gear (16 ribs down.) ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:03:30 AM PST US From: "Ray Krause" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: ELSA registration Gene, Some believe that an ELSA is easier to sell than an EAB. The buyer of an ELSA only needs to take a 3 day course and he/she may then do the "Condition Inspection" and sign it off. The buyer of an EAB will always have to have an A&P, IA do the inspection; unless the former owner will do it for you. That is one reason I have my Waiex certified as ELSA,,, and it was easy to do. Thanks, Ray Krause N51YX, Waiex, TD, Jab 3300 (1197), AeroCarb, Sensinich 54X62 wood prop, Dynon D-180, Garmin SL-30, 327, 296, 167 hrs. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene & Tammy" Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 2:41 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: ELSA registration > > > Don, there are no benefits that I see. Even if you didn't build your > experimental you can still do all the work on it yourself. You just need > a "Conditional Inspection" performed by any A & P, every year. The up > side is that an Experimental is much easier to sell than a ELSA. By the > way, The Avid is a wonderful airplane. > Gene > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Don Emch" > To: > Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 2:55 PM > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: ELSA registration > > >> >> My Piet is just registered as Experimental. Right now I just fly it >> within the Sport Pilot guidelines. Which really means I just fly it >> without a medical versus flying it with a medical. I really don't know >> of any advantages to trying to get the Avid registered as an ELSA. >> Anyone else know of any benefits? >> >> Don Emch >> NX899DE >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=278155#278155 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > 08:33:00 > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:50:24 AM PST US From: Jim Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Progress from Cool Propeller Co. Its looking good Gary. What diameter and pitch are you working for? Doing all the final smoothing and matching of each blade does look like a lot of work; but think of the good feeling you will have when done. Jim B. Jim Boyer Santa Rosa, CA Pietenpol on wheels Tail surfaces done Wing ribs done Corvair engine On Dec 20, 2009, Gary Boothe wrote: Still a long ways to go, but the good news is that I managed to get thru the chainsaw work and keep all my digits, and, so far, I have not taken off too much wood! The final shaping will take longer than I thought, as its easy to get fatigued and lose concentration Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion, mounted Tail done,Fuselageon gear (16 ribs down) ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 01:37:54 PM PST US From: "Gary Boothe" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Progress from Cool Propeller Co. 66/34 or 64/34. It's really not that hard...just exacting. I am finding that I need to be in the right frame of mind - no distractions, etc... Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion, mounted Tail done, Fuselage on gear (16 ribs down) -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 11:49 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Progress from Cool Propeller Co. Its looking good Gary. What diameter and pitch are you working for? Doing all the final smoothing and matching of each blade does look like a lot of work; but think of the good feeling you will have when done. Jim B. Jim Boyer Santa Rosa, CA Pietenpol on wheels Tail surfaces done Wing ribs done Corvair engine On Dec 20, 2009, Gary Boothe wrote: Still a long ways to go, but the good news is that I managed to get thru the chainsaw work and keep all my digits, and, so far, I have not taken off too much wood! The final shaping will take longer than I thought, as its easy to get fatigued and lose concentration Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion, mounted Tail done,Fuselageon gear (16 ribs down) ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 05:12:06 PM PST US From: Douwe Blumberg Subject: Pietenpol-List: progress! Today was a BIG day here. After a couple of years, we put the finished wings on the finished fuse of 799B!! I can't describe how rewarding and exciting it was to see the whole thing together and pretty much finished, I've never seen the paint scheme all together until now (except for in my sketches) I'm really pleased with it. I'm hoping to get all the little tidbits finished this month and get inspected soon so I can get it broken down and to the airport (it's in my studio right now) Keep building!! Douwe ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 05:23:49 PM PST US From: "Gene Rambo" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: progress! photos photos photos!!!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: Douwe Blumberg To: pietenpolgroup Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 8:10 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: progress! > Today was a BIG day here. After a couple of years, we put the finished wings on the finished fuse of 799B!! I can't describe how rewarding and exciting it was to see the whole thing together and pretty much finished, I've never seen the paint scheme all together until now (except for in my sketches) I'm really pleased with it. I'm hoping to get all the little tidbits finished this month and get inspected soon so I can get it broken down and to the airport (it's in my studio right now) Keep building!! Douwe www.aeroelectric.com www.buildersbooks.com www.homebuilthelp.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 05:27:39 PM PST US From: Jack Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: progress! Congrats Douwe! Do you have a picture? Jack DAM Sent from my iPhone On Dec 21, 2009, at 7:10 PM, Douwe Blumberg wrote: > > > > Today was a BIG day here. After a couple of years, we put the > finished wings on the finished fuse of 799B!! > > I can't describe how rewarding and exciting it was to see the whole > thing together and pretty much finished, I've never seen the paint > scheme all together until now (except for in my sketches) I'm > really pleased with it. > > I'm hoping to get all the little tidbits finished this month and get > inspected soon so I can get it broken down and to the airport (it's > in my studio right now) > > Keep building!! > > Douwe > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 06:23:18 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: progress! From: "John Recine" That's great Dowe, now when do we get to see it? Do not archive John ------Original Message------ From: Douwe Blumberg Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com ReplyTo: Pietenpol builders Board Subject: Pietenpol-List: progress! Sent: Dec 21, 2009 8:10 PM Today was a BIG day here. After a couple of years, we put the finished wings on the finished fuse of 799B!! I can't describe how rewarding and exciting it was to see the whole thing together and pretty much finished, I've never seen the paint scheme all together until now (except for in my sketches) I'm really pleased with it. I'm hoping to get all the little tidbits finished this month and get inspected soon so I can get it broken down and to the airport (it's in my studio right now) Keep building!! Douwe Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 06:29:26 PM PST US From: Darrel Jones Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Progress from Cool Propeller Co. Gary, Is the prop going to be constant speed or ground adjustable? Do you need to carry the chain saw with you or can you borrow one after you land? Inquiring minds want to know. BTW, did you call Dale's about the balancers to see if he would take fewer in an order for a group discount? I know he had been out of town last time the topic was discussed. Even if we can't get the discount I'll plan on shipping a couple up with Jim's so we can share the shipping costs. Jim, when did you need your balancer? Great prop Gary. You've got me thoroughly intimidated. Darrel > On Dec 20, 2009, Gary Boothe wrote: > > Still a long ways to go, but the good news is that I managed to get thru the chainsaw work and keep all my digits, and, so far, I have not taken off too much wood! The final shaping will take longer than I thought, as its easy to get fatigued and lose concentration > > > > > Gary Boothe > Cool, Ca. > Pietenpol > WW Corvair Conversion, mounted > Tail done, Fuselage on gear > (16 ribs down) > > > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 08:05:03 PM PST US From: Jim Subject: Re: RE: Pietenpol-List: Progress from Cool Propeller Co. Keep us updated on your progress on the prop. It looks like you have a very good start. I can understand when removing material you can only go back and forth from blade to blade so many times. Loud noises make me stressed out so I'm not sure the chain saw is a good way to go for me. Jim B. Jim Boyer Santa Rosa, CA Pietenpol on wheels Tail surfaces done Wing ribs done Corvair engine On Dec 21, 2009, Gary Boothe wrote: 66/34 or 64/34. It's really not that hard...just exacting. I am finding that I need to be in the right frame of mind - no distractions, etc... Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion, mounted Tail done, Fuselage on gear (16 ribs down) -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 11:49 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Progress from Cool Propeller Co. Its looking good Gary. What diameter and pitch are you working for? Doing all the final smoothing and matching of each blade does look like a lot of work; but think of the good feeling you will have when done. Jim B. Jim Boyer Santa Rosa, CA Pietenpol on wheels Tail surfaces done Wing ribs done Corvair engine On Dec 20, 2009, Gary Boothe wrote: Still a long ways to go, but the good news is that I managed to get thru the chainsaw work and keep all my digits, and, so far, I have not taken off too much wood! The final shaping will take longer than I thought, as its easy to get fatigued and lose concentration Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. 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