Pietenpol-List Digest Archive

Tue 12/22/09


Total Messages Posted: 18



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 06:52 AM - Alvin Schubert (tbyh@aol.com)
     2. 06:53 AM - Re fitting nut plates (G & R Hewitt)
     3. 06:54 AM - Web Design (Jack T. Textor)
     4. 07:33 AM - Re: Web Design (wildhorsesracing)
     5. 07:49 AM - Re: Alvin Schubert (John Hofmann)
     6. 08:09 AM - Re: Web Design (chase143)
     7. 11:04 AM - Web Design (Wayne Bressler)
     8. 11:20 AM - Re: Web Design (ivan.todorovic)
     9. 11:51 AM - Re: Re: Web Design (Matt Redmond)
    10. 12:02 PM - Re: Web Design (Ryan Mueller)
    11. 01:02 PM - Re: Web Design (ivan.todorovic)
    12. 02:06 PM - Re: Web Design (Bill Church)
    13. 02:12 PM - Re: Re fitting nut plates (Bill Church)
    14. 02:19 PM - Re: Web Design (Jack)
    15. 04:52 PM - 799B, Douwe Blumberg's Piet, feast your eyes (helspersew@aol.com)
    16. 05:04 PM - Douwe Blumberg's Piet...Feast your eyes (helspersew@aol.com)
    17. 06:25 PM - Re: Douwe Blumberg's Piet...Feast your eyes (Gary Boothe)
    18. 08:10 PM - Re: 799B, Douwe Blumberg's Piet, feast your eyes (H RULE)
 
 
 


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    Time: 06:52:03 AM PST US
    Subject: Alvin Schubert
    From: tbyh@aol.com
    Just a note to point out that it was E. Alvin Schubert (not "Shuster) who wrote "How I Make Propellers." His first name was actually Edward, but he always went by Al or Alvin. I grew up in the town where Al lived -- Tremp ealeau, WI, which is about halfway between La Crosse, WI, and Winona, MN, along the Mississippi River. Al was a very bright man and although he was valedictorian of his high sch ool class (among his "tinkerings" as a teen-ager in the 1930s he built a generator and wired his folks house) he never got to go to college. I al ways wondered how far Al would have gone had he had that opportunity. I'm willing to bet that he would have been one of the fellows working on the Manhattan Project or the B-29 and later the space program. He was very go od at math and designed and built his own airplane and, as you all know, propellers. He also advised and made a couple propellers for Bernard for his Corvair-powered job -- one of which Bernard called the best propeller he ever had. I don't know, but it's possible that prop is flying yet toda y on "The Last Original." Alvin passed away about 10 years ago and our EAA Chapter still misses him very much. Al had a homegrown wisdom that was very much in keeping with Bernard Pietenpol and the fellows of that era. And, by the way, Al appare ntly planned (or at least considered) to build a Pietenpol because at his estate sale I purchased the Air Camper plans that Al had purchased from Bernard in the 1960s (and one of Al's propellers that he had carved for his own VW-powered "Der Fledermaus" airplane). I am using those plans to build my Air Camper...someday it will fly! (Right now the fuselage and ta il feathers are in the basement along with a "pile" of other parts includi ng a set of Charlie Rubeck wing ribs!) Happy Holidays and Happy New Year, everyone! Fred B. La Crosse, WI


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    Time: 06:53:36 AM PST US
    From: "G & R Hewitt" <grhewitt@globaldial.com>
    Subject: Re fitting nut plates
    Re fitting nut plates in various places in my Piet, I have used a lay up of fibre glass with great success. The aim is to have a means to prevent the nut plate from pulling thru the wood & to prevent any movement of the nut plate and also not to degrade the wood fibres in any way My method is to lay up several layers of fine cloth to make a thickness of about .070 or 2MM on a sheet of glass, an area of 6 square inches will make sufficient for the whole project. When this has cured, cut into strips slightly wider than the nut plate & length to suit Drill hole one size larger than the screw or bolt diameter, attach the nut plate to the fiber glass then drill the small holes which mount the nut plate. Counter sink these holes to allow a small alloy rivet to fit flush with the shiny surface. Then rivet the glass to the back of the nut plate.using small countersunk alloy rivets. Then drill the wood to the exact size of he bolt , finally use a bead of glue around the edges of the glass strip (Araldite is fine) take care not to get glue near the nut plate This works really well with the floating type of plates which will self align thru the enlarged hole This was used to anchor the bolts on the tail plane & also to mount the aileron hinges. If this is hard to understand I could try to take pics of the whole thing. Regards Graham Hewitt


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    Time: 06:54:23 AM PST US
    Subject: Web Design
    From: "Jack T. Textor" <jtextor@thepalmergroup.com>
    I'm looking for some help on redesigning my website www.textors.com <http://www.textors.com/> . I want to update all the pictures and resize them so they will load faster. I used Front Page to put it together. People have told me Front Page is out dated and should not be used. If anyone can lend a hand with suggested software (free is nice) or ideas I would really appreciate it. I'm thinking 4 or 5 pages would be plenty. Go Daddy is currently hosting. Thanks! Jack DSM PS I'm pretty lame when it comes to this stuff, simpler the better.


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    Time: 07:33:04 AM PST US
    From: wildhorsesracing <wildhorsesracing@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Web Design
    I have had good luck with all of the Coffee Cup software - =0Ahttp://www.co ffeecup.com/=0A=0AIt's cheap and easy!=0A=0A -jim pantas=0A=0A=0Awww.wildho rsesracing.com=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Jack T. Textor <jtextor@thepalmergroup.com>=0ATo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com =0ASent: Tue, December 22, 2009 9:52:27 AM=0ASubject: Pietenpol-List: Web D esign=0A=0A =0AI=99m=0Alooking for some help on redesigning my websit e www.textors.com. I want to update all=0Athe pictures and resize them so they will load faster. I used Front Page=0Ato put it together. People hav e told me Front Page is out dated and=0Ashould not be used. If anyone can lend a hand with suggested software=0A(free is nice) or ideas I would reall y appreciate it. I=99m thinking=0A4 or 5 pages would be plenty. Go Daddy is currently hosting. Thanks!=0AJack=0ADSM=0A =0APS =0AI=99m p retty lame when it comes to this stuff, simpler the better. =0A =0A=0A=0A_ -======================== ==0A=0A=0A


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    Time: 07:49:59 AM PST US
    From: John Hofmann <jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com>
    Subject: Re: Alvin Schubert
    I knew Al when I was a teenager. My Dad and I used to go to his barn on occasion just to visit. He was a nice man. I remember propellers all over his barn and he gave me a booklet he wrote about Der Fledermaus (I still have the booklet). It was a low, polyhedral wing with a 1600 cc VW, if I remember correctly. Single place and looked a bit like a baby T-18. -john- John Hofmann Vice-President, Information Technology The Rees Group, Inc. 2810 Crossroads Drive, Ste 3800 Madison, WI 53718 Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150 Fax: 608.443.2474 Email: jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com On Dec 22, 2009, at 8:39 AM, tbyh@aol.com wrote: > Just a note to point out that it was E. Alvin Schubert (not "Shuster) who wrote "How I Make Propellers." His first name was actually Edward, but he always went by Al or Alvin. I grew up in the town where Al lived -- Trempealeau, WI, which is about halfway between La Crosse, WI, and Winona, MN, along the Mississippi River. > > Al was a very bright man and although he was valedictorian of his high school class (among his "tinkerings" as a teen-ager in the 1930s he built a generator and wired his folks house) he never got to go to college. I always wondered how far Al would have gone had he had that opportunity. I'm willing to bet that he would have been one of the fellows working on the Manhattan Project or the B-29 and later the space program. He was very good at math and designed and built his own airplane and, as you all know, propellers. He also advised and made a couple propellers for Bernard for his Corvair-powered job -- one of which Bernard called the best propeller he ever had. I don't know, but it's possible that prop is flying yet today on "The Last Original." > > Alvin passed away about 10 years ago and our EAA Chapter still misses him very much. Al had a homegrown wisdom that was very much in keeping with Bernard Pietenpol and the fellows of that era. And, by the way, Al apparently planned (or at least considered) to build a Pietenpol because at his estate sale I purchased the Air Camper plans that Al had purchased from Bernard in the 1960s (and one of Al's propellers that he had carved for his own VW-powered "Der Fledermaus" airplane). I am using those plans to build my Air Camper...someday it will fly! (Right now the fuselage and tail feathers are in the basement along with a "pile" of other parts including a set of Charlie Rubeck wing ribs!) > > Happy Holidays and Happy New Year, everyone! > > Fred B. > La Crosse, WI > > > >


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    Time: 08:09:52 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Web Design
    From: "chase143" <chase143@aol.com>
    Hello Jack, I'm no IT expert, but I manage several websites (pro bono) for friends, church, sports team, etc. Most hosting companies offer the templated sites, and software with price of hosting, and all very easy to use (yes, go daddy, being one). Often using a secondary software is more trouble then it's worth (the simpler the better for me too), so I would recommend bundling the service! I've found www.networksolutions.com to be a little superior to go daddy for several reasons: about the same price, but more of a professional approach, much easier to set up and maintain a site, far less advertising, easier picture management. No sales pitch here, just my 2C. If I can be of any help at all, feel free to contact me off-line. Steve Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=278575#278575


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    Time: 11:04:48 AM PST US
    From: Wayne Bressler <wayne@taildraggersinc.com>
    Subject: Web Design
    Jack, What exactly are you trying to change?I don't see any problem with using FrontPage. If you're keeping the site simple, you should be able to do things pretty easily using FrontPage. I use Microsoft Expressions which replaced FrontPage. Let me know more specifically what you're trying to do, and might be able to help get you set up. Have you considering making the site like a blog? Wordpress is a great open-source program that is very flexible. Wayne Bressler Jr. wayne@taildraggersinc.com Taildraggers, Inc. taildraggersinc.com Sent from the phone that made the Blackberry obsolete.


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    Time: 11:20:25 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Web Design
    From: "ivan.todorovic" <tosha@sezampro.rs>
    Jack, As Wayne said, it is not obvious what you are trying to achieve. Front Page is outdated, but replacing it won't make your photos load faster. If you are trying to reduce traffic generated on your site, the best way to do that is to resize every single photo, you are looking at few hours of work in front of you. This will have an side-effect that photos will load faster as well. Best software to do this job is Adobe Photoshop, but it costs several hundreds US$. Best free software capable of doing it with good results is Gimp, http://www.gimp.org/ . Ivan. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=278595#278595


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    Time: 11:51:21 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Web Design
    From: Matt Redmond <mdredmond@gmail.com>
    You might take a look at http://www.fotosizer.com/ It claims to be a free batch image resizer. On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 1:18 PM, ivan.todorovic <tosha@sezampro.rs> wrote: > > Jack, > > As Wayne said, it is not obvious what you are trying to achieve. Front Page > is outdated, but replacing it won't make your photos load faster. If you > are trying to reduce traffic generated on your site, the best way to do that > is to resize every single photo, you are looking at few hours of work in > front of you. This will have an side-effect that photos will load faster as > well. > > Best software to do this job is Adobe Photoshop, but it costs several > hundreds US$. Best free software capable of doing it with good results is > Gimp, http://www.gimp.org/ . > > Ivan. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=278595#278595 > >


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    Time: 12:02:55 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Web Design
    From: Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com>
    Jack, Are you wanting to redesign your whole site, or are you happy with the basi c setup and just want to update your pictures and manage the sizes? If you are fine with your basic design, then just worry about updating the content. If all you are doing is resizing images, maybe cropping some (ligh t editing), then there is no need for tools such as Photoshop or GIMP: that's swatting a fly with a sledgehammer. I would recommend a small, free program called Irfanview: http://www.irfanview.com/. It's a lightweight image viewe r that lets you easily crop and resize your photos. You can even do batch resizing....you could put all your photos in one folder, and resize all of them to a given size in one fell swoop. If you want help on how to do so just let me know. I can put a couple step-by-step videos up on Screencast t o walk you through the process. As far as Frontpage being outdated....well, if you can use the program, and it will construct webpages that look like you want them to on current versions of common browsers (Mozilla Firefox, Internet Explorer, Safari), then there is no need to switch to a new program. If you want to try a more "modern" program, here is a free WYSIWYG HTML construction alternative: NVU: http://net2.com/nvu/ Hope that helps....email me offlist if you have more questions or need any asssitance. Ryan On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 8:52 AM, Jack T. Textor <jtextor@thepalmergroup.com>wrote: > I=92m looking for some help on redesigning my website www.textors.com. I > want to update all the pictures and resize them so they will load faster. I > used Front Page to put it together. People have told me Front Page is ou t > dated and should not be used. If anyone can lend a hand with suggested > software (free is nice) or ideas I would really appreciate it. I=92m thi nking > 4 or 5 pages would be plenty. Go Daddy is currently hosting. Thanks! > > Jack > > DSM > > > PS I=92m pretty lame when it comes to this stuff, simpler the better. >


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    Time: 01:02:24 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Web Design
    From: "ivan.todorovic" <tosha@sezampro.rs>
    Ryan Mueller wrote: > ... If all you are doing is resizing images, maybe cropping some (light editing), then there is no need for tools such as Photoshop or GIMP: that's swatting a fly with a sledgehammer. I would recommend a small, free program called Irfanview... Well, on this list we have to be opinionated about everything :-) I would not call these tools sledgehammers, there is a reason people use it. If Jack managed to make his whole site, he is more than capable to learn them quickly, and they can do things in a way Jack may yet to discover and find useful. Although I agree NVU is good idea as alternative to Front Page. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=278605#278605


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    Time: 02:06:32 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Web Design
    From: "Bill Church" <billspiet@sympatico.ca>
    Ivan, Sure, we're all entitled to our opinions here, but I think you missed Ryan's point, which stated specifically "If all you are doing is resizing images, maybe cropping some (light editing)...". Photoshop is a great tool, and packed with all sorts of features that Jack (or anyone else) might find useful ... BUT if the only thing you need to do is resize or crop some photos, then spending a few hundred dollars on Photoshop would be akin to using the proverbial sledgehammer on the proverbial fly. It is a much bigger tool than is necessary to get the (very simple) job done. Bill C. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=278611#278611


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    Time: 02:12:54 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Re fitting nut plates
    From: "Bill Church" <billspiet@sympatico.ca>
    Not to be a Smart-Alec, but why don't you just put a dab of glue on the tabs of the nut plate? Your method seems like a lot of extra work, with basically the same net result. All the fiberglass plate gives you is a little more surface area for the glue. When attaching the nutplates for my empennage hinges, I used two tiny little brass screws (#0 x 1/4" long, I believe) to secure them, and also carefully applied epoxy. The epoxy is probably overkill, but I won't have any worries about the screws coming loose. I am NOT concerned about the penetration of the little wood screws. Then again, I also wouldn't be worried about the use of Tee nuts either. The advantage of nutplates is that the hole in the wood is only the size of the bolt, whereas with a Tee nut, the hole in the wood needs to be bigger, since the threaded portion of the nut is embedded in the wood. Bill C. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=278612#278612 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/aw_nuts_371.jpg


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    Time: 02:19:53 PM PST US
    From: "Jack" <jack@textors.com>
    Subject: Web Design
    Great comments, I've got some thinking to do. Really when it comes down to it I really jut need to resize and add photos. I have the software for that and yes it will take some time. Thanks so much to all for the thoughtful comments! Jack DSM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Web Design I'm looking for some help on redesigning my website www.textors.com <http://www.textors.com/> . I want to update all the pictures and resize them so they will load faster. I used Front Page to put it together. People have told me Front Page is out dated and should not be used. If anyone can lend a hand with suggested software (free is nice) or ideas I would really appreciate it. I'm thinking 4 or 5 pages would be plenty. Go Daddy is currently hosting. Thanks! Jack DSM PS I'm pretty lame when it comes to this stuff, simpler the better. 18:22:00


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    Time: 04:52:16 PM PST US
    Subject: 799B, Douwe Blumberg's Piet, feast your eyes
    From: helspersew@aol.com
    Here are the photos of Douwe's airplane.......


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    Time: 05:04:22 PM PST US
    Subject: Douwe Blumberg's Piet...Feast your eyes
    From: helspersew@aol.com
    More pics of Douwe's airplane.....


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    Time: 06:25:14 PM PST US
    From: "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net>
    Subject: Douwe Blumberg's Piet...Feast your eyes
    Beautiful, Douwe!!! (thanks, Dan) .and an Official Insignia! That's important... Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion, mounted Tail done, Fuselage on gear (16 ribs down.) Do not archive _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of helspersew@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 4:11 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Douwe Blumberg's Piet...Feast your eyes More pics of Douwe's airplane.....=


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    Time: 08:10:05 PM PST US
    From: H RULE <harvey.rule@rogers.com>
    Subject: Re: 799B, Douwe Blumberg's Piet, feast your eyes
    Wow,that is beautiful,thanks ________________________________ From: "helspersew@aol.com" <helspersew@aol.com> Sent: Tue, December 22, 2009 7:09:01 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: 799B, Douwe Blumberg's Piet, feast your eyes Here are the photos of Douwe's airplane.......




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