---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 12/24/09: 8 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:11 AM - off topic (javier) 2. 03:23 AM - Re: Re: Douwe Blumberg's Piet...Feast your eyes (Jack Phillips) 3. 07:10 AM - 799B (Douwe Blumberg) 4. 10:20 AM - Re: 799B (Dick N) 5. 04:43 PM - Re: Douwe Blumberg's Piet...Feast your eyes (Billy McCaskill) 6. 04:46 PM - Re: off topic (Billy McCaskill) 7. 04:57 PM - Re: Re fitting nut plates (Billy McCaskill) 8. 05:25 PM - Re: Re fitting nut plates (B Church) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:11:55 AM PST US From: "javier" Subject: Pietenpol-List: off topic For all Piets comunity My best wishes for all Piet builders and families on this Christmas. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 03:23:20 AM PST US From: "Jack Phillips" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Douwe Blumberg's Piet...Feast your eyes Looks like another award-winner is about to show up at Brodhead. Congratulations, Douwe. You've been working on this a long time, You've got to be proud of such a beauty! Jack Phillips NX899JP Raleigh, NC -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Markle Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 11:42 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Douwe Blumberg's Piet...Feast your eyes what he said.... -----Original Message----- >From: Bill Church >Sent: Dec 23, 2009 11:24 PM >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Douwe Blumberg's Piet...Feast your eyes > > >Holey Moley, Douwe! >Do I see custom-made brass "Pietenpol" signature hubcaps on your wheels? >I do recall seeing photos of your custom "Pietenpol" instrument faces, so I guess we shouldn't really be surprised. >Nice work. > >Bill C. > > >Read this topic online here: > >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=278762#278762 > > >Attachments: > >http://forums.matronics.com//files/hubcap_122.jpg > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:10:31 AM PST US From: Douwe Blumberg Subject: Pietenpol-List: 799B Thank you everybody for all the kind words and encouragement, it really is appreciated! Lowell, she's registered, and I am in contact with the inspector, he says just give him a week or two notice when I'm ready for inspection. Hoping to get all the remaining items done in the next six weeks or so so we can get it to the airport and start the fun and games. One big lesson learned. I've been keeping the windshields covered since my studio has a lot of metal dust blowing around which really can scratch the Lexan. The other day I removed the cover to discover cracks radiating out from a lot of my screw holes. I figure I didn't make them oversize enough to compensate for the expansion and contraction due to the freezing nights and warm (heated) days. I'll have to remake those panels. Make the holes ovesize and don't tighting your nuts too much, just enough, I think the plexi or lexan should kind of be "hung" in there, like vinyl siding on a house. keep building everybody!! Douwe ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:20:50 AM PST US From: "Dick N" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: 799B Good job there, Douwe On the windshields, I havent had very good rsults with the Acrylic sheets from Home Depot or the hardware store. I tried them, but they cracked rather quickly. The product labeled Lexan has been far superior. You were right on though, leave a tolerance around the screws. I also installed a rubber cushion washer to lessen stress. Days are getting longer now. Time to start the Brodhead countdown clock. Dick N. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Douwe Blumberg" Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 9:08 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: 799B > > > Thank you everybody for all the kind words and encouragement, it really is > appreciated! > > Lowell, she's registered, and I am in contact with the inspector, he says > just give him a week or two notice when I'm ready for inspection. Hoping > to get all the remaining items done in the next six weeks or so so we can > get it to the airport and start the fun and games. > > One big lesson learned. I've been keeping the windshields covered since > my studio has a lot of metal dust blowing around which really can scratch > the Lexan. The other day I removed the cover to discover cracks radiating > out from a lot of my screw holes. I figure I didn't make them oversize > enough to compensate for the expansion and contraction due to the freezing > nights and warm (heated) days. I'll have to remake those panels. Make > the holes ovesize and don't tighting your nuts too much, just enough, I > think the plexi or lexan should kind of be "hung" in there, like vinyl > siding on a house. > > keep building everybody!! > > Douwe > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 04:43:39 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Douwe Blumberg's Piet...Feast your eyes From: "Billy McCaskill" Beautiful work! Love the wood struts and the Jenny style gear. what type of wood did you you use for the lift struts? What size wheels did you use, and where did you get the smooth tires? I'm not even close to the point of thinking about building my wheels yet, but I'd like to go with smooth tires just like that on mine when I get there... Billy McCaskill Urbana, IL tailfeathers nearly done Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=278823#278823 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 04:46:51 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: off topic From: "Billy McCaskill" Wishing a Merry Christmas to all! Billy McCaskill Urbana, IL tailfeathers almost done Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=278824#278824 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 04:57:50 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Re fitting nut plates From: "Billy McCaskill" Nicely done, Bill. I can't see any fault with your method. And as far as Tee-nuts are concerned, I've seen people flatten the prongs out and drill small holes in the flange for brads or small screws, and use them upside-down just like the nutplates you show in your photo instead of counter-boring the hole in the wood and sinking the prongs into the wood. There's obviously more than one correct way to accomplish this job... Billy McCaskill Urbana, IL tailfeathers almost done Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=278825#278825 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 05:25:03 PM PST US From: B Church Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re fitting nut plates Not to be a Smart-Alec, but why don't you just put a dab of glue on the tab s of the nut plate? Seem like a lot of extra work, with basically the same net result. All the fiberglass plate gives you is a little more surface area for the glue. When attaching the nutplates for my empennage hinges, I used two tiny littl e brass screws (#0 x 1/4" long, I believe) to secure them, and also careful ly applied epoxy. The epoxy is probably overkill, but I won't have any worr ies about the screws coming loose. I am NOT concerned about the penetration of the little wood screws. Then again, I also wouldn't be worried about th e use of Tee nuts either. The advantage of nutplates is that the hole in th e wood is only the size of the bolt, whereas with a Tee nut, the hole in th e wood needs to be bigger, since the threaded portion of the nut is embedde d in the wood. Bill C. [cid:890533215@22122009-245A] ________________________________ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-lis t-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of G & R Hewitt Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 9:34 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re fitting nut plates Re fitting nut plates in various places in my Piet, I have used a lay up o f fibre glass with great success. The aim is to have a means to prevent the nut plate from pulling thru the w ood & to prevent any movement of the nut plate and also not to degrade the wood fibres in any way My method is to lay up several layers of fine cloth to make a thickness of about .070 or 2MM on a sheet of glass, an area of 6 square inches will make sufficient for the whole project. When this has cured, cut into strips slightly wider than the nut plate & le ngth to suit Drill hole one size larger than the screw or bolt diameter, attach the nu t plate to the fiber glass then drill the small holes which mount the nut p late. Counter sink these holes to allow a small alloy rivet to fit flush with the shiny surface. Then rivet the glass to the back of the nut plate.using small countersunk a lloy rivets. Then drill the wood to the exact size of he bolt , finally use a bead of gl ue around the edges of the glass strip (Araldite is fine) take care not to get glue near the nut plate This works really well with the floating type of plates which will self ali gn thru the enlarged hole This was used to anchor the bolts on the tail plane & also to mount the ail eron hinges. If this is hard to understand I could try to take pics of the whole thing. 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