Pietenpol-List Digest Archive

Tue 12/29/09


Total Messages Posted: 17



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     1. 06:04 AM - Re: Speaking of Props and Bikinis... (Ameet Savant)
     2. 07:05 AM - Re: Speaking of Props and Bikinis... (H RULE)
     3. 08:37 AM - Re: Speaking of Props and Bikinis... (Dan Yocum)
     4. 08:48 AM - Re: Speaking of Props and Bikinis... (Gary Boothe)
     5. 09:37 AM - Re: Speaking of Props and Bikinis... (mike)
     6. 10:01 AM - my last girlfriend before the Pietenpol---- from Russia, With Love (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation])
     7. 10:49 AM - Re: Speaking of Props and Bikinis... (Michael Perez)
     8. 10:49 AM - Re: Speaking of Props and Bikinis... (H RULE)
     9. 11:51 AM - brakes (brian.e.jardine@l-3com.com)
    10. 12:08 PM - Re: brakes (TOPGUN)
    11. 04:53 PM - Re: Speaking of Props and Bikinis... (H RULE)
    12. 04:54 PM - wood gear (TOM MICHELLE BRANT)
    13. 05:59 PM - Re: wood gear (Jack Phillips)
    14. 05:59 PM - Re: wood gear (Gary Boothe)
    15. 07:59 PM - crankcase sealant question A-65 (Ben Charvet)
    16. 10:54 PM - Corvair Piet Oil Cooler locations? (Michael Groah)
    17. 11:35 PM - Re: Corvair Piet Oil Cooler locations? (Peter W Johnson)
 
 
 


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    Time: 06:04:25 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Speaking of Props and Bikinis...
    From: Ameet Savant <ameetsavant@gmail.com>
    I am just glad you didn't post a photo of yourself in a bikini :) All in all, that prop looks amazing. Very nice work, Gary! Ameet do not archive. On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 8:25 PM, Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote: > List, > > > I knew that would get your attention! > > > But it was Dan Helsper who brought up the =93sensuality=94 of props. It g ot me > to thinking=85. > > > Not to be coy, as I have received many kudos for even attempting a prop, > but I was =91unfulfilled=92 with the area at the hub-to-blades, and it wa sn=92t > until Dan=92s remark that I started looking at it in a whole new light. H ere, > I=92ve been thinking of airfoils, pitch lines, strength ' with my head totally > up in the clouds ' when the answer is right here on Earth=85in the gutt er! > That=92s right, once I got my mind in the gutter, where I do my best thin king, > I realized the problem: My prop was like a bikini model=85with thick ank les > (not that there=92s anything wrong with thick ankles!), but I was looking for > something different. After all; take a look at this picture: > > > Tell me that doesn=92t scream, =93FRENCH BIKINI=94!! As most of you know, that=92s > Dan=92s prop. That=92s sexy. I don=92t care who you are! > > > PF Beck has apparantly figured this out, too, but I couldn=92t get a good > read on the profile of the blades, though I knew I liked the look of his. > The difficulty is knowing how a trace pattern of the profile really > translates to the overall look of the prop. Trial and error, I guess. > > > So, with maximum Pucker Factor, I did two things: > > > 1) I put the prop back on the table saw and cut the thickness from 3 > =BE=94 to 3 =BC=94! (same thickness as PF=92s=85.just copy success, right ?) > > 2) I slendered up the =91ankles=92. In fact, I removed exactly 1 lb o f > material ' from 10.6 to 9.6 lbs! > > > Total time on the =91re-figuring=92=85about 3 hours > > > So here=92s the final results=85who wants to be a bikini judge? > > > Gary Boothe > > Cool, Ca. > > Pietenpol > > WW Corvair Conversion, mounted > > Tail done, Fuselage on gear > > (16 ribs down=85) > >


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    Time: 07:05:29 AM PST US
    From: H RULE <harvey.rule@rogers.com>
    Subject: Re: Speaking of Props and Bikinis...
    Geeee do they wear bikini's when they fly down there;that's awsome!=0A=0A =0Ado not archive=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Am eet Savant <ameetsavant@gmail.com>=0ATo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com=0ASen t: Tue, December 29, 2009 8:16:05 AM=0ASubject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Speakin g of Props and Bikinis...=0A=0AI am just glad you didn't post a photo of yo urself in a bikini :) =0A=0AAll in all, that prop looks amazing. Very nice work, Gary!=0A=0A=0AAmeet=0A=0Ado not archive.=0A=0A=0A=0AOn Mon, Dec 28, 2 009 at 8:25 PM, Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote:=0A=0AList,=0A>=C2 -=0A>I knew that would get your attention!=0A>=C2-=0A>But it was Dan He lsper who brought up the =9Csensuality=9D of props. It got me t o thinking.=0A>=C2-=0A>Not to be coy, as I have received many ku dos for even attempting a prop, but I was =98unfulfilled=99 wit h the area at the hub-to-blades, and it wasn=99t until Dan=99s remark that I started looking at it in a whole new light. Here, I=99v e been thinking of airfoils, pitch lines, strength =93 with my head t otally up in the clouds =93 when the answer is right here on Earth in the gutter! That=99s right, once I got my mind in the gutter , where I do my best thinking, I realized the problem:=C2- My prop was li ke a bikini modelwith thick ankles (not that there=99s anyth ing wrong with thick ankles!), but I was looking for something different. A fter all; take a look at this picture:=0A>=C2-=0A>=0A>=0A>=C2-=0A>Tell me that doesn=99t scream, =9CFRENCH BIKINI=9D!! As most o f you know, that=99s Dan=99s prop. That=99s sexy. I don =99t care who you are!=0A>=C2-=0A>PF Beck has apparantly figured th is out, too, but I couldn=99t get a good read on the profile of the b lades, though I knew I liked the look of his. The difficulty is knowing how a trace pattern of the profile really translates to the overall look of th e prop. Trial and error, I guess.=0A>=C2-=0A>So, with maximum Pucker Fact or, I did two things: =0A>=C2-=0A>1)=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2- I put the pr op back on the table saw and cut the thickness from 3 =C2=BE=9D to 3 =C2=BC=9D! (same thickness as PF=99s.just copy success , right?)=0A>2)=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2- I slendered up the =98ankles =99. In fact, I removed exactly 1 lb of material =93 from 10.6 to 9.6 lbs!=0A>=C2-=0A>Total time on the =98re-figuring=99 about 3 hours=0A>=C2-=0A>So here=99s the final results who wants to be a bikini judge?=0A>=C2-=0A>=0A>=0A>=C2-=0A>=C2-=0A >Gary Boothe=0A>Cool, Ca.=0A>Pietenpol=0A>WW Corvair Conversion, mounted=0A >Tail done,=C2-Fuselage=C2-on gear=0A>(16 ribs down)=0A>=C2- ======


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    Time: 08:37:40 AM PST US
    From: Dan Yocum <yocum@fnal.gov>
    Subject: Re: Speaking of Props and Bikinis...
    Would it be inappropriate to make the suggestion that you should add some high quality, 1970's porn music to accompany this photo? I like the modifications you made, Gary. Great work. Dan do not archive -- Dan Yocum Fermilab 630.840.6509 yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."


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    Time: 08:48:36 AM PST US
    From: "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net>
    Subject: Speaking of Props and Bikinis...
    Speedo=92s=85equally disturbing if you were to see me in one=85. Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion, mounted Tail done, Fuselage on gear (16 ribs down=85) Do not archive _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of H RULE Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 6:54 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Speaking of Props and Bikinis... Geeee do they wear bikini's when they fly down there;that's awsome! do not archive _____ From: Ameet Savant <ameetsavant@gmail.com> Sent: Tue, December 29, 2009 8:16:05 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Speaking of Props and Bikinis... I am just glad you didn't post a photo of yourself in a bikini :) All in all, that prop looks amazing. Very nice work, Gary! Ameet do not archive. On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 8:25 PM, Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote: List, I knew that would get your attention! But it was Dan Helsper who brought up the =93sensuality=94 of props. It got me to thinking=85. Not to be coy, as I have received many kudos for even attempting a prop, but I was =91unfulfilled=92 with the area at the hub-to-blades, and it wasn=92t until Dan=92s remark that I started looking at it in a whole new light. Here, I=92ve been thinking of airfoils, pitch lines, strength ' with my head totally up in the clouds ' when the answer is right here on Earth=85in the gutter! That=92s right, once I got my mind in the gutter, where I do my best thinking, I realized the problem: My prop was like a bikini model=85with thick ankles (not that there=92s anything wrong with thick ankles!), but I was looking for something different. After all; take a look at this picture: Tell me that doesn=92t scream, =93FRENCH BIKINI=94!! As most of you know, that=92s Dan=92s prop. That=92s sexy. I don=92t care who you are! PF Beck has apparantly figured this out, too, but I couldn=92t get a good read on the profile of the blades, though I knew I liked the look of his. The difficulty is knowing how a trace pattern of the profile really translates to the overall look of the prop. Trial and error, I guess. So, with maximum Pucker Factor, I did two things: 1) I put the prop back on the table saw and cut the thickness from 3 =BE=94 to 3 =BC=94! (same thickness as PF=92s=85.just copy success, right?) 2) I slendered up the =91ankles=92. In fact, I removed exactly 1 lb of material ' from 10.6 to 9.6 lbs! Total time on the =91re-figuring=92=85about 3 hours So here=92s the final results=85who wants to be a bikini judge? Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion, mounted Tail done, Fuselage on gear (16 ribs down=85) www.aeroelbuildersbooks.com/" rel=nofollow target=_blank>www.buildersbooks.com <http://www.howtocrimp.com/> wist" rel=nofollow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Piet====== ====== <http://www.howtocrimp.com/> <http://www.howtocrimp.com/> <http://www.howtocrimp.com/> <http://www.howtocrimp.com/> This Month -- Gifts!) Raiser. Click on find out more about Incentive Gifts provided www.aeroelectric.com


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    Time: 09:37:34 AM PST US
    From: "mike" <bike.mike@comcast.net>
    Subject: Speaking of Props and Bikinis...
    However, I think we would all love to see a photo of any Pieter (even Gary) in a speedo or a bikini, during or after a flight, in his/her Piet on skis in Minnesota or any other suitable place in JANUARY, on snow. Yes, any of you nawthen snow-birds may take that as a challenge. Mike, in sunny Santa Cruz. (I think I'll go ride my bike today.) _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Boothe Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 7:14 AM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Speaking of Props and Bikinis... Speedo=92s=85equally disturbing if you were to see me in one=85. Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion, mounted Tail done, Fuselage on gear (16 ribs down=85) Do not archive _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of H RULE Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 6:54 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Speaking of Props and Bikinis... Geeee do they wear bikini's when they fly down there;that's awsome! do not archive _____ From: Ameet Savant <ameetsavant@gmail.com> Sent: Tue, December 29, 2009 8:16:05 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Speaking of Props and Bikinis... I am just glad you didn't post a photo of yourself in a bikini :) All in all, that prop looks amazing. Very nice work, Gary! Ameet do not archive. On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 8:25 PM, Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote: List, I knew that would get your attention! But it was Dan Helsper who brought up the =93sensuality=94 of props. It got me to thinking=85. Not to be coy, as I have received many kudos for even attempting a prop, but I was =91unfulfilled=92 with the area at the hub-to-blades, and it wasn=92t until Dan=92s remark that I started looking at it in a whole new light. Here, I=92ve been thinking of airfoils, pitch lines, strength ' with my head totally up in the clouds ' when the answer is right here on Earth=85in the gutter! That=92s right, once I got my mind in the gutter, where I do my best thinking, I realized the problem: My prop was like a bikini model=85with thick ankles (not that there=92s anything wrong with thick ankles!), but I was looking for something different. After all; take a look at this picture: Tell me that doesn=92t scream, =93FRENCH BIKINI=94!! As most of you know, that=92s Dan=92s prop. That=92s sexy. I don=92t care who you are! PF Beck has apparantly figured this out, too, but I couldn=92t get a good read on the profile of the blades, though I knew I liked the look of his. The difficulty is knowing how a trace pattern of the profile really translates to the overall look of the prop. Trial and error, I guess. So, with maximum Pucker Factor, I did two things: 1) I put the prop back on the table saw and cut the thickness from 3 =BE=94 to 3 =BC=94! (same thickness as PF=92s=85.just copy success, right?) 2) I slendered up the =91ankles=92. In fact, I removed exactly 1 lb of material ' from 10.6 to 9.6 lbs! Total time on the =91re-figuring=92=85about 3 hours So here=92s the final results=85who wants to be a bikini judge? Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion, mounted Tail done, Fuselage on gear (16 ribs down=85) www.aeroelbuildersbooks.com/" rel=nofollow target=_blank>www.buildersbooks.com <http://www.howtocrimp.com/> wist" rel=nofollow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Piet====== ====== <http://www.howtocrimp.com/> <http://www.howtocrimp.com/> <http://www.howtocrimp.com/> <http://www.howtocrimp.com/> <http://www.howtocrimp.com/> <http://www.howtocrimp.com/> <http://www.howtocrimp.com/> <http://www.howtocrimp.com/> <http://www.howtocrimp.com/> <http://www.howtocrimp.com/> <http://www.howtocrimp.com/> <http://www.howtocrimp.com/> <http://www.howtocrimp.com/> www.aeroelectric.com www.homebuilthelp.com http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List http://forums.matronics.com


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    Time: 10:01:22 AM PST US
    From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]" <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov>
    Subject: my last girlfriend before the Pietenpol---- from Russia,
    With Love Yep. Olga had to go. She would have put me way over gross and I would have needed to build an RV-10 like Jack Phillips is doing. My pleasantly plumb coworker here always jokes about loosing weight in the new year and he tells his wife that his goal is to "get into his two-piece" this summer. I'm afr aid Olga will never don a two-piece. (thankfully neither will I ) do not archive Mike C.


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    Time: 10:49:11 AM PST US
    From: Michael Perez <speedbrake@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Re: Speaking of Props and Bikinis...
    Gary, that curved looking, more "sweeping" looking prop in the picture you sent is exactly what I want! This is looking more and more like a possibility for me to pursue.


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    Time: 10:49:21 AM PST US
    From: H RULE <harvey.rule@rogers.com>
    Subject: Re: Speaking of Props and Bikinis...
    If ad a speedo on you would see it;think about that=0A=0A=0Ado not archive =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Gary Boothe <gbooth e5@comcast.net>=0ATo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Tue, December 29 , 2009 10:14:19 AM=0ASubject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Speaking of Props and Bik inis...=0A=0A=0ASpeedo=99sequally disturbing if you were to see me in one.=0A=C2-=0AGary Boothe=0ACool, Ca.=0APietenpol=0AWW Corvair Conversion, mounted=0ATail done,=C2-Fuselage=C2-on gear=0A(16 ribs down)=0ADo not archive=0A=0A________________________________ =0A=0AFrom:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpo l-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of H RULE=0ASent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 6:54 AM=0ATo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com=0ASubject: Re: Pietenpo l-List: Speaking of Props and Bikinis...=0A=C2-=0AGeeee do they wear biki ni's when they fly down there;that's awsome!=0A=C2-=0A=C2-=0Ado not arc hive=0A=C2-=0A=0A________________________________=0A=0AFrom:Ameet Savant <ameetsavant@gmail.com>=0ATo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Tue, Dec ember 29, 2009 8:16:05 AM=0ASubject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Speaking of Props and Bikinis...=0A=0AI am just glad you didn't post a photo of yourself in a bikini :) =0A=C2-=0AAll in all, that prop looks amazing. Very nice work, Gary !=0A=C2-=0AAmeet=0A=C2-=0Ado not archive.=0A=C2-=0AOn Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 8:25 PM, Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote:=0AList,=0A =C2-=0AI knew that would get your attention!=0A=C2-=0ABut it was Dan He lsper who brought up the =9Csensuality=9D of props. It got me t o thinking.=0A=C2-=0ANot to be coy, as I have received many kudo s for even attempting a prop, but I was =98unfulfilled=99 with the area at the hub-to-blades, and it wasn=99t until Dan=99s re mark that I started looking at it in a whole new light. Here, I=99ve been thinking of airfoils, pitch lines, strength =93 with my head tot ally up in the clouds =93 when the answer is right here on Earth in the gutter! That=99s right, once I got my mind in the gutter , where I do my best thinking, I realized the problem:=C2- My prop was li ke a bikini modelwith thick ankles (not that there=99s anyth ing wrong with thick ankles!), but I was looking for something different. A fter all; take a look at this picture:=0A=C2-=0A=C2-=0A=C2-=0ATell me that doesn=99t scream, =9CFRENCH BIKINI=9D!! As most of you know, that=99s Dan=99s prop. That=99s sexy. I don =99t care who you are!=0A=C2-=0APF Beck has apparantly figured this ou t, too, but I couldn=99t get a good read on the profile of the blades , though I knew I liked the look of his. The difficulty is knowing how a tr ace pattern of the profile really translates to the overall look of the pro p. Trial and error, I guess.=0A=C2-=0ASo, with maximum Pucker Factor, I d id two things: =0A=C2-=0A1)=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2- I put the prop back o n the table saw and cut the thickness from 3 =C2=BE=9D to 3 =C2=BC =9D! (same thickness as PF=99s.just copy success, right?) =0A2)=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2- I slendered up the =98ankles=99. In fact, I removed exactly 1 lb of material =93 from 10.6 to 9.6 lbs! =0A=C2-=0ATotal time on the =98re-figuring=99about 3 hours=0A=C2-=0ASo here=99s the final resultswho wants to be a bikini judge?=0A=C2-=0A=C2-=0A=C2-=0A=C2-=0AGary Boothe=0ACool , Ca.=0APietenpol=0AWW Corvair Conversion, mounted=0ATail done,=C2-Fusela ge=C2-on gear=0A(16 ribs down)=0A=C2-=0A=C2-=0Awww.aeroelbui ldersbooks.com/" rel=nofollow target=_blank>www.buildersbooks.com wist" rel=nofollow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Piet= =============0A=C2-=0A=C2-=0A=C2-=0Awww.aeroe lectric.com=0Awww.homebuilthelp.com=0Ahttp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pi =========================0A =====================


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    Time: 11:51:51 AM PST US
    From: brian.e.jardine@l-3com.com
    Subject: brakes
    R3JvdXAsDQoNCiANCg0KQnJha2UgcXVlc3Rpb27igKYuaGFzIGFueW9uZSB1c2VkIGRpc2MgYnJh a2VzIG9mZiBhIDQtd2hlZWxlciAvQVRWIGZvciB0aGVpciBQaWV0PyAgVGhlIGNhbGlwZXJzIGFy ZSBhIGxpdHRsZSBsYXJnZXIgYW5kIEnigJltIHdvbmRlcmluZyBhYm91dCB0aGUgZXh0cmEgd2Vp Z2h0LiAgIFRoYW5rcy4NCg0KIA0KDQpCcmlhbg0KDQpTTEMtVVQNCg0K


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    Time: 12:08:55 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: brakes
    From: "TOPGUN" <rmdinfo@lakefield.net>
    Pilot78 wrote: > Group, > > Brake question.has anyone used disc brakes off a 4-wheeler /ATV for their Piet? The calipers are a little larger and Im wondering about the extra weight. Thanks. > > Brian > SLC-UT Thats what i am using, the calipers are off of a yamaha banshee. I am going to make my own disc to fit my wheel hubs. the calipers with pads are less than a pound ea, comparable to any braking system use on a piet. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=279129#279129


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    Time: 04:53:59 PM PST US
    From: H RULE <harvey.rule@rogers.com>
    Subject: Re: Speaking of Props and Bikinis...
    That was supposed to read;if I had a speedo on you wouldn't be able to see it,think about that.=0A=0A=0A=0Ado not archive=0A=0A=0A____________________ ____________=0AFrom: H RULE <harvey.rule@rogers.com>=0ATo: pietenpol-list@m atronics.com=0ASent: Tue, December 29, 2009 1:44:05 PM=0ASubject: Re: Piete npol-List: Speaking of Props and Bikinis...=0A=0A=0AIf ad a speedo on you w ould see it;think about that=0A=0A=0Ado not archive=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A_________ _______________________=0AFrom: Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net>=0ATo: pi etenpol-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Tue, December 29, 2009 10:14:19 AM=0ASub ject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Speaking of Props and Bikinis...=0A=0A=0ASpeedo =99sequally disturbing if you were to see me in one .=0A=C2-=0AGary Boothe=0ACool, Ca.=0APietenpol=0AWW Corvair Conversion, m ounted=0ATail done,=C2-Fuselage=C2-on gear=0A(16 ribs down)=0A Do not archive=0A=0A________________________________=0A=0AFrom:owner-pieten pol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics .com] On Behalf Of H RULE=0ASent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 6:54 AM=0ATo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com=0ASubject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Speaking of Pro ps and Bikinis...=0A=C2-=0AGeeee do they wear bikini's when they fly down there;that's awsome!=0A=C2-=0A=C2-=0Ado not archive=0A=C2-=0A=0A____ ____________________________=0A=0AFrom:Ameet Savant <ameetsavant@gmail.com> =0ATo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Tue, December 29, 2009 8:16:05 AM=0ASubject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Speaking of Props and Bikinis...=0A=0AI a m just glad you didn't post a photo of yourself in a bikini :) =0A=C2-=0A All in all, that prop looks amazing. Very nice work, Gary !=0A=C2-=0AAmee t=0A=C2-=0Ado not archive.=0A=C2-=0AOn Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 8:25 PM, Ga ry Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote:=0AList,=0A=C2-=0AI knew that woul d get your attention!=0A=C2-=0ABut it was Dan Helsper who brought up the =9Csensuality=9D of props. It got me to thinking.=0A =C2-=0ANot to be coy, as I have received many kudos for even attempting a prop, but I was =98unfulfilled=99 with the area at the hub-to- blades, and it wasn=99t until Dan=99s remark that I started loo king at it in a whole new light. Here, I=99ve been thinking of airfoi ls, pitch lines, strength =93 with my head totally up in the clouds =93 when the answer is right here on Earthin the gutter! Tha t=99s right, once I got my mind in the gutter, where I do my best thi nking, I realized the problem:=C2- My prop was like a bikini model with thick ankles (not that there=99s anything wrong with thick an kles!), but I was looking for something different. After all; take a look a t this picture:=0A=C2-=0A=C2-=0A=C2-=0ATell me that doesn=99t s cream, =9CFRENCH BIKINI=9D!! As most of you know, that=99 s Dan=99s prop. That=99s sexy. I don=99t care who you are !=0A=C2-=0APF Beck has apparantly figured this out, too, but I couldn =99t get a good read on the profile of the blades, though I knew I liked the look of his. The difficulty is knowing how a trace pattern of the prof ile really translates to the overall look of the prop. Trial and error, I g uess.=0A=C2-=0ASo, with maximum Pucker Factor, I did two things: =0A=C2 -=0A1)=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2- I put the prop back on the table saw and c ut the thickness from 3 =C2=BE=9D to 3 =C2=BC=9D! (same thickne ss as PF=99s.just copy success, right?)=0A2)=C2-=C2-=C2 -=C2- I slendered up the =98ankles=99. In fact, I removed e xactly 1 lb of material =93 from 10.6 to 9.6 lbs!=0A=C2-=0ATotal ti me on the =98re-figuring=99about 3 hours=0A=C2-=0ASo here=99s the final resultswho wants to be a bikini judge? =0A=C2-=0A=C2-=0A=C2-=0A=C2-=0AGary Boothe=0ACool, Ca.=0APietenpol =0AWW Corvair Conversion, mounted=0ATail done,=C2-Fuselage=C2-on gear =0A(16 ribs down)=0A=C2-=0A=C2-=0Awww.aeroelbuildersbooks.com/ " rel=nofollow target=_blank>www.buildersbooks.com wist" rel=nofollow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Piet====== ========0A=C2-=0A=C2-=0A=C2-=0Awww.aeroelectric.com=0Aw ww.homebuilthelp.com=0Ahttp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List=0A http://forums.matronics.com=0A =C2-=0Awww.howtocrimp.comhref="http://ww w.matronics.com/contribution" rel=nofollow target=_bla="http://www.ma tronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List" rel=nofollow targe===== ======


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    Time: 04:54:33 PM PST US
    From: TOM MICHELLE BRANT <tmbrant@msn.com>
    Subject: wood gear
    Still trying to decide between the wood gear and cub style. My question about the wood gear is=2C what is the importance of the lower b lock aiming at the tailwheel? I don't get it. Couldn't it just be straigh t? Wouldn't that make things simpler to build? I'm not trying to go again st tradition or originality=2C but I just don't understand why this is impo rtant. Can anyone enlighten me? Thanks=2C Tom B.


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    Time: 05:59:54 PM PST US
    From: "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: wood gear
    I tried to make it with the V blocks parallel to the airpalen centerline. I could get the angles to fit at the block, or at the lower longeron, but not both. Then I aligned the block correctly and all the angles fit simultaneously. You can try it however you want, but that is the only geometry that will fit. Jack Phillips NX899JP Raleigh, NC _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of TOM MICHELLE BRANT Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 7:24 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: wood gear Still trying to decide between the wood gear and cub style. My question about the wood gear is, what is the importance of the lower block aiming at the tailwheel? I don't get it. Couldn't it just be straight? Wouldn't that make things simpler to build? I'm not trying to go against tradition or originality, but I just don't understand why this is important. Can anyone enlighten me? Thanks, Tom B.


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    Time: 05:59:54 PM PST US
    From: "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net>
    Subject: wood gear
    Tom, I guess you don't HAVE to angle it back...but, then, would it still be a Piet? Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion, mounted Tail done, Fuselage on gear (16 ribs down.) Do not archive _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of TOM MICHELLE BRANT Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 4:24 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: wood gear Still trying to decide between the wood gear and cub style. My question about the wood gear is, what is the importance of the lower block aiming at the tailwheel? I don't get it. Couldn't it just be straight? Wouldn't that make things simpler to build? I'm not trying to go against tradition or originality, but I just don't understand why this is important. Can anyone enlighten me? Thanks, Tom B.


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    Time: 07:59:31 PM PST US
    From: Ben Charvet <bcharvet@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: crankcase sealant question A-65
    I'm having a hard time finding any Loctite 515, as specified in the TCM SIL99-2B document to seal my crankcase halves (A-65). Since this is going in a Pietenpol, I guess I don't have to use exactly what they specify, but I was wondering what others have used with success, besides the Permatex #3 Aviation/Loctite 515/silk thread to seal their crankcase halves. Ben Charvet Mims, Fl


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    Time: 10:54:49 PM PST US
    From: Michael Groah <dskogrover@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Corvair Piet Oil Cooler locations?
    For those Piets with Corvairs..... Have any of you Corvair powered Pieters remote mounted your oil cooler? If so where did you put it and how did you mount it/duct air to it? I have some ideas and concept sketches but I figured I'd see what others are doing before I reinvent everything. Mike Groah Tulare CA Sprayed a coat of clear on my cockpit today and welded up my intake manifold. Tomorrow: Prep engine cooling scoops, intake, battery box, and probably some other items for paint.


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    Time: 11:35:08 PM PST US
    From: "Peter W Johnson" <vk3eka@bigpond.net.au>
    Subject: Corvair Piet Oil Cooler locations?
    Mike, Check out http://www.cpc-world.com for some pictures on where I mounted mine. Go to "Engine Construction" -> "Engine Cooling". It worked well for me. Cheers Peter Wonthaggi Australia http://www.cpc-world.com From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael Groah Sent: Wednesday, 30 December 2009 5:28 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Corvair Piet Oil Cooler locations? For those Piets with Corvairs..... Have any of you Corvair powered Pieters remote mounted your oil cooler? If so where did you put it and how did you mount it/duct air to it? I have some ideas and concept sketches but I figured I'd see what others are doing before I reinvent everything. Mike Groah Tulare CA Sprayed a coat of clear on my cockpit today and welded up my intake manifold. Tomorrow: Prep engine cooling scoops, intake, battery box, and probably some other items for paint.




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