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1. 02:08 PM - Fuselage Ash Cross Struts (Jack)
2. 04:58 PM - Re: Fuselage Ash Cross Struts (Jerry Dotson)
3. 05:55 PM - The Airplane as Art - Gene Rambo's Pietenpol (wayne@taildraggersinc.com)
4. 07:15 PM - Inspiration (TOM MICHELLE BRANT)
5. 08:07 PM - Re: Inspiration (Dick N)
6. 08:15 PM - Re: Inspiration (Jeff Boatright)
7. 08:35 PM - Re: Inspiration (flea)
8. 11:47 PM - Re: The Airplane as Art - Gene Rambo's Pietenpol (Tim Willis)
9. 11:47 PM - Re: Fuselage Ash Cross Struts (Tim Willis)
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| Subject: | Fuselage Ash Cross Struts |
Could use some help here. Drawing 1 specifies =BE x 2=94, Drawing 3
says 1 x 2=94
for the front and =BE x 2=94 for the back. May I use =BE x 2=94 for
both? Also, am
I correct in placing the centerline of the front cross strut 12=94 back
from
the front of the fuselage? I=92m building the long version. Doing this
makes
it appear it will be =BD=94 behind where it looks to be in drawing 3
showing the
cross section of the longeron, rear set cross strut, front cross strut
and
ends of the ash cross struts.
Thanks!
Jack
DSM
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| Subject: | Re: Fuselage Ash Cross Struts |
Jack it looks to me like you would center up over where the landing gear attaches.
I am just about to that point myself and was going to ask the same question.
Here in sunny Florida it has been too cold to do any gluing. Only one day since
Christmas has it been warm enough to glue.
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Jerry Dotson
59 Daniel Johnson Rd
Baker, FL 32531
Started building NX510JD July, 2009
Ribs and tailfeathers done
using Lycoming O-235
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=280860#280860
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| Subject: | The Airplane as Art - Gene Rambo's Pietenpol |
Howdy Pieters,
I visited with Gene Rambo last weekend to see his Piet under
construction. I took my sister along to take some photos. I'm working
on a short article about Gene's Piet for www.taildraggersinc.com, but
it's not ready yet. In the meantime, I wanted to share the following
photo as a "teaser".
If it doesn't come through as an attachment, just go to
www.taildraggersinc.com - it's right there on the home page.
I've started a little forum on the site, too. Please register and post
your comments about the photo (or anything else that strikes your fancy,
just keep it aviation related, please). Once the article and the rest
of the photos are ready, I'll let ya'll know.
Oh, and be warned - I'm always on the lookout for new planes and
projects to photograph and write about! You or someone you know might
be next! :)
Thanks,
Wayne Bressler
Taildraggers, Inc.
www.taildraggersinc.com
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Well=2C my father-in-law died today after a 2 year fight with cancer. He h
as been a true inspiration and he will be dearly missed. Him and his wife
built one of the wing ribs for my project and I asked them to sign it. A f
ew months back I asked him to think about something significant in his life
relating to numbers and letters. I wanted him to be remembered by the tai
l numbers on my Piet (if I ever finish it). He wasn't able to come up with
much but he suggested I use the date of his death along with his initials.
So - how does 19MR sound? Unfortunately N19MR is taken... So - any sug
gestions how I can work this into the number? I tried 019MR and it said th
at N-number is invalid - does that mean that it's not taken??
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Tom Sorry about your father in law. An N number can't start with a "0".
Dick N.
----- Original Message -----
From: TOM MICHELLE BRANT
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 9:05 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Inspiration
Well, my father-in-law died today after a 2 year fight with cancer.
He has been a true inspiration and he will be dearly missed. Him and
his wife built one of the wing ribs for my project and I asked them to
sign it. A few months back I asked him to think about something
significant in his life relating to numbers and letters. I wanted him
to be remembered by the tail numbers on my Piet (if I ever finish it).
He wasn't able to come up with much but he suggested I use the date of
his death along with his initials. So - how does 19MR sound?
Unfortunately N19MR is taken... So - any suggestions how I can work
this into the number? I tried 019MR and it said that N-number is
invalid - does that mean that it's not taken??
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Tom,
I'm sorry to hear of your loss; you have my deepest sympathy.
An N-number cannot begin with a zero, which is why 'invalid' was
returned on the search I think. The number 1910R (1/9/10 with your
FIL's last name first letter) was assigned in 1988 to a balloon that
appears out of service. You could try contacting the owner to see if
he'd be willing to relinquish it.
EDWARDS KENNETH W
2901 HAINE DR
HARLINGEN
TX
78550
HTH,
Jeff
>Well, my father-in-law died today after a 2 year fight with cancer.
>He has been a true inspiration and he will be dearly missed. Him
>and his wife built one of the wing ribs for my project and I asked
>them to sign it. A few months back I asked him to think about
>something significant in his life relating to numbers and letters.
>I wanted him to be remembered by the tail numbers on my Piet (if I
>ever finish it). He wasn't able to come up with much but he
>suggested I use the date of his death along with his initials. So -
>how does 19MR sound? Unfortunately N19MR is taken... So - any
>suggestions how I can work this into the number? I tried 019MR and
>it said that N-number is invalid - does that mean that it's not
>taken??
>
>
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109MR seems available. 1/09/FIL initials
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=280877#280877
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| Subject: | Re: The Airplane as Art - Gene Rambo's Pietenpol |
Your sis has achieved some nice sepia tones in the pic, perfect for an antique
airplane, even if the plane itself is brand new. Very arty, all right, with
shadows and fading focal lengths, highlighting the depth and complexity of
the structure.
All very different from our usual shots trying to show "this is how to do
it." Nice touch from an art perspective.
Tim in central TX
do not archive
-----Original Message-----
>From: "wayne@taildraggersinc.com" <wayne@taildraggersinc.com>
>Sent: Jan 9, 2010 7:49 PM
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Pietenpol-List: The Airplane as Art - Gene Rambo's Pietenpol
>
>Howdy Pieters,
>
>I visited with Gene Rambo last weekend to see his Piet under
>construction. I took my sister along to take some photos. I'm working
>on a short article about Gene's Piet for www.taildraggersinc.com, but
>it's not ready yet. In the meantime, I wanted to share the following
>photo as a "teaser".
>
>If it doesn't come through as an attachment, just go to
>www.taildraggersinc.com - it's right there on the home page.
>
>I've started a little forum on the site, too. Please register and post
>your comments about the photo (or anything else that strikes your fancy,
>just keep it aviation related, please). Once the article and the rest
>of the photos are ready, I'll let ya'll know.
>
>Oh, and be warned - I'm always on the lookout for new planes and
>projects to photograph and write about! You or someone you know might
>be next! :)
>
>Thanks,
>
>Wayne Bressler
>Taildraggers, Inc.
>www.taildraggersinc.com
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| Subject: | Re: Fuselage Ash Cross Struts |
Jack,
The front spar, front lift strut both get more load, and transfer it to the
front ash cross-piece. What's more, in landings, the front main LG strut (I
think) gets more compression force (requiring thickness), while the aft ash cross-piece
gets more shear. Thus the aft member has the same width (for shear),
but can have less thickness. I'd go per the plans for different thicknesses.
Just my 2 cents.
Otherwise, your location issue, it seems as though the ash members should
be centered on the hardware, thus centering the load to them.
Pls give my regards to Suzie.
Tim in central TX
-----Original Message-----
From: Jack
Sent: Jan 9, 2010 4:03 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fuselage Ash Cross Struts
Could use some help here. Drawing 1 specifies x 2, Drawing 3 says 1 x 2 for the
front and x 2 for the back. May I use x 2 for both? Also, am I correct
in placing the centerline of the front cross strut 12 back from the front of the
fuselage? Im building the long version. Doing this makes it appear it will
be behind where it looks to be in drawing 3 showing the cross section of the
longeron, rear set cross strut, front cross strut and ends of the ash cross
struts.
Thanks!
Jack
DSM
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