---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 01/13/10: 11 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:44 AM - Re: News From System Three Resins (K5YAC) 2. 04:53 AM - Re: News From System Three Resins (K5YAC) 3. 06:18 AM - Re: News From System Three Resins (Jerry Dotson) 4. 07:12 AM - Re: Re: News From System Three Resins (Ryan Mueller) 5. 09:43 AM - Re: A. Spruce and stainless hardware (Aircraft Spruce Info) 6. 09:57 AM - EAA Chapter 1279's Corvair Powered Pietenpol Update (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]) 7. 07:24 PM - Re: Re: News From System Three Resins (Clif Dawson) 8. 08:19 PM - Long fuselage in tube and fabric? (Jim Ash) 9. 08:33 PM - Tube and fabric fuselage: tubing sizes (Jim Ash) 10. 09:18 PM - Fuel tank Questions (carson) 11. 10:01 PM - Re: Fuel tank Questions (Peter W Johnson) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:44:24 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: News From System Three Resins From: "K5YAC" Sorry guys, I just use the list on the web... I don't get e-mails or a daily digest. Perhaps the information that Clif was trying to share was intact for those receiving the e-mail, but on the web side there is nothing more than "News From System Three Resins" in the thread subject and nothing more. I'm not trying to be a smart ass, and I understand that this is topical information... like I said, I use T-88 too, and I keep checking back each time this thread is updated in the hopes that there is something to read. So far, the information has not come through. Perhaps one of you e-mail recipients could post the link here? Ryan, you are also a web user... surely you can see what I am talking about, right? There is no information here! You apparently got the link via e-mail... can you post it? -------- Mark - working on wings Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=281260#281260 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:53:51 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: News From System Three Resins From: "K5YAC" Ok, I just reread the thread (sorry, I'm still waking up). I see that Ryan also posted a link to System Three. Thanks for the link guys. Once more though... if you look on the web side, you might understand my confusion as I wondered where the "news" was. In fact, I'm still kind of wondering that I guess. -------- Mark - working on wings Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=281261#281261 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:18:21 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: News From System Three Resins From: "Jerry Dotson" Mark I get the same thing that you do. There are several that come from phones and I guess there is some quirk where the text does not come through. I don't do cell phones anymore. I had to sleep with a cellphone on the bedside table so many years(on call 27/7). When I retired I went into rebellion. -------- Jerry Dotson 59 Daniel Johnson Rd Baker, FL 32531 Started building NX510JD July, 2009 Ribs and tailfeathers done using Lycoming O-235 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=281267#281267 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:12:32 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: News From System Three Resins From: Ryan Mueller I actually receive the list via email, Mark. I am setup to post on the web forum if need be, but 99.9% of the time I read and post through my GMail account. GMail actually organizes emails into "conversations", which are pretty much like the threads on the web forum, so it's pretty easy to read and I can check the list at the same time I check my email, and get it on the phone quickly and easily. Anywho, I did check on the web forum and I see what you mean: Clif's message was completely blank. Not sure why....however, the only link the original message contained was to the System Three website. Have a good day, Ryan On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 6:53 AM, K5YAC wrote: > > Ok, I just reread the thread (sorry, I'm still waking up). I see that Ryan > also posted a link to System Three. Thanks for the link guys. > > Once more though... if you look on the web side, you might understand my > confusion as I wondered where the "news" was. In fact, I'm still kind of > wondering that I guess. > > -------- > Mark - working on wings > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=281261#281261 > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:43:50 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: A. Spruce and stainless hardware From: "Aircraft Spruce Info" We noticed the postings in the Pietenpol forum regarding the rated strength of the MS24694 screws stocked by Aircraft Spruce. The rated strength of MS24694 steel screws is 125,000 PSI, and the rated strength of MS24694C stainless steel screws is 85,000 PSI. If anyone has any questions regarding these screws please let us know. Aircraft Spruce Customer Service Dept. custsvc@aircraftspruce.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=281289#281289 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 09:57:11 AM PST US From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]" Subject: Pietenpol-List: EAA Chapter 1279's Corvair Powered Pietenpol Update Thought I would pass this along as this is one of the best-organized Pieten pol EAA projects that I've ever seen come along. For more information on this Southern California EAA Chapter see: http://www.eaa1279.org/ From: Steve Williamson, Pres. EAA Chapter 1279 French Valley Dear Members, We have reached a significant milestone in the construction of our Pietenpo l Air Camper here at the French Valley Airport. The last several months ha ve been spent on the details of wing construction. Once the basic structur e of each wing was complete, there remained the task of mating the wing pan els to the center section, cutting and hinging the aileron panels, routing the aileron control cables, and locating the cable guides. Finally, we were ready to hang the wings. Jerry Trapp made up some tempora ry lift struts using poles from an aluminum awning. This allowed us to rig up the wings and take accurate measurements of the exact length of each st rut before cutting the streamlined tubing used for the actual lift struts. Streamlined tubing has become quite expensive, so we would like to avoid a ny mistakes in measuring. With the wings in place using the temporary struts we were able to hook up the aileron control cables, climb in the cockpit, and waggle the stick. El evator, rudder, and ailerons are all working. A very exciting moment for a ll of us. Once we have established the proper dihedral and washout with th e temporary struts, Jerry can cut the strut material and fabricate the end fittings and jury struts. That will complete the basic structure of the ai rframe. With the wings in place the project has outgrown the workshop hangar which has been its home for the last four years. Will Sparkman came to the rescu e. He has some vacant hangars at the north end of the field. He has arran ged for us to move the Piet into one of the vacant hangars until things fil l up. The way things are going with the economy that probably will not hap pen for some time. I want to thank Will Sparkman and Sky Canyon Enterprise s for their help and support for our project and our EAA chapter. As always visitors are welcome at our Saturday morning workshops. The work shop door will be open. If no one is there, you can find us at the north e nd. Come see our new digs. In the meantime, check out the photos below. Steve Williamson, Pres. EAA Chapter 1279 French Valley [cid:X.MA1.1263401528@aol.com] [cid:X.MA2.1263401528@aol.com] [cid:X.MA3.1263401528@aol.com] ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:24:47 PM PST US From: "Clif Dawson" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: News From System Three Resins I'll bet the viagra ones make it through pretty good........ :-) :-) Clif Anywho, I did check on the web forum and I see what you mean: Clif's message was completely blank. Not sure why....however, the only link the original message contained was to the System Three website. Have a good day,Ryan ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 08:19:35 PM PST US From: Jim Ash Subject: Pietenpol-List: Long fuselage in tube and fabric? Has anybody built a long fuselage out of tube and fabric instead of wood? For some reason over the last couple years I thought the t&f fuselage was synonymous with the long fuselage. I was just going through the supplemental drawings to add up tubing lengths to put together a Dillsburg order, and now I see the t&f fuselage is actually a couple inches shorter than the standard wood. Jim Ash ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 08:33:35 PM PST US From: Jim Ash Subject: Pietenpol-List: Tube and fabric fuselage: tubing sizes While we're here: On the steel tube fuselage supplemental drawing, on the elevation view, the size of the tube going from station 2 down to station 13 and from station 2 down to station 12 are blurry on my drawing, especially the latter. I think they say 5/8", but I'm not sure. Can someone confirm these two dimensions for me, please? Jim Ash ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 09:18:45 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fuel tank Questions From: "carson" Hi All I have just spent 2 hrs looking for the answers when I should have been out in the shed building so I will ask now go to the shed build and await your replies. I am planning on building an aluminum tank with the bottom the same camber as the bottom of the wing with an outlet in the front right and rear right,Could there be any problems with this? Has anyone else done the same? Also if one of the pickups was to become starved of fuel would this make an air bubble in the system? If yes is that what a header tank is for to resolve the air bubble problem? Or a better question what is the header tank for? All suggestions appreciated Thanks Carson Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=281396#281396 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 10:01:45 PM PST US From: "Peter W Johnson" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Fuel tank Questions Carson, That's exactly what I did. I never had any problems with fuel flow. Gravity is a magic thing! I had a header tank and after some time wondered why I had it. I couldn't see what was in it so I install a hard clear plastic tube in the down pipe from the top tank. When that was clear it was time to look for a landing spot. There was probably a half hour of fuel in the header tank. I installed the header tank mainly so there was a fairly constant head of fuel to the carby. Have a look at the bottom of photo page 9 on the web site for some pictures. Cheers Peter Wonthaggi Vic http://www.cpc-world.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of carson Sent: Thursday, 14 January 2010 4:18 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fuel tank Questions Hi All I have just spent 2 hrs looking for the answers when I should have been out in the shed building so I will ask now go to the shed build and await your replies. I am planning on building an aluminum tank with the bottom the same camber as the bottom of the wing with an outlet in the front right and rear right,Could there be any problems with this? Has anyone else done the same? Also if one of the pickups was to become starved of fuel would this make an air bubble in the system? If yes is that what a header tank is for to resolve the air bubble problem? Or a better question what is the header tank for? All suggestions appreciated Thanks Carson Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=281396#281396 Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 06:35:00 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message pietenpol-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pietenpol-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/pietenpol-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.