---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 01/21/10: 37 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:57 AM - Re: Markels Piet Important please read and respond (bryan green) 2. 05:12 AM - Markle Mania 2010 (aka Markle Pietenpol Fund) progress (Ryan Mueller) 3. 05:35 AM - worth another read-------- ***How to donate to the Markle Pietenpol Fund*** (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]) 4. 05:58 AM - Hello Good people (amsafetyc@aol.com) 5. 06:04 AM - Re: worth another read-------- ***How to donate to the Markl... (amsafetyc@aol.com) 6. 06:23 AM - 60 Minutes reveals the true nature of why Jim is selling his Piet (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]) 7. 07:29 AM - Markle Mania 2010 (aka Markle Pietenpol Fund) progress **UPDATE** (Ryan Mueller) 8. 07:36 AM - Re: Markle Mania 2010 (aka Markle Pietenpol Fund) progress **UPDATE** (Ryan Mueller) 9. 08:11 AM - Re: Re: Selling my Pietenpol Project (Dan Yocum) 10. 08:31 AM - Re: Selling my Pietenpol Project (K5YAC) 11. 08:55 AM - I thought it was just a (purposeful) misinterpretation. If so, holy cow! (amsafetyc@aol.com) 12. 12:09 PM - Re: Markle Mania 2010 (aka Markle Pietenpol Fund) progress **UPDATE** (Rod Young) 13. 12:46 PM - Lurkers with dreams (helspersew@aol.com) 14. 12:50 PM - Re: Re: Selling my Pietenpol Project (Rick Holland) 15. 12:54 PM - Re: Markle Mania 2010 (aka Markle Pietenpol Fund) progress (amsafetyc@aol.com) 16. 12:55 PM - Re: Markle Mania 2010 (aka Markle Pietenpol Fund) progress **UPDATE** (Ryan Mueller) 17. 12:57 PM - Re: I'm not sending Markle a dime ! (Rick Holland) 18. 12:59 PM - Re: Hello good people (Rick Holland) 19. 12:59 PM - Re: Re: Selling my Pietenpol Project (John Hofmann) 20. 01:11 PM - Re: Hello good people (bryan green) 21. 02:52 PM - Markle Mania 2010 progress **UPDATE** (Ryan Mueller) 22. 02:52 PM - this group is really incredible (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]) 23. 03:46 PM - Re: this group is really incredible (Matt Redmond) 24. 03:47 PM - Re: this group is really incredible (Bill Church) 25. 03:51 PM - Re: Selling my Pietenpol Project (Pieti Lowell) 26. 03:54 PM - Re: this group is really incredible (Gary Boothe) 27. 05:16 PM - Re: Markle Mania 2010 (aka Markle Pietenpol Fund) progress (Rod Young) 28. 05:32 PM - engine cooling -resending -ignore earlier email (airlion) 29. 05:33 PM - engine cooling (airlion) 30. 05:41 PM - Re: this group is really incredible (Jack) 31. 05:56 PM - Re: engine cooling -resending -ignore earlier email (Gary Boothe) 32. 06:55 PM - Re: engine cooling -resending -ignore earlier email (shad bell) 33. 07:08 PM - Re: engine cooling -resending -ignore earlier email (dwilson) 34. 07:14 PM - Re: Selling my Pietenpol Project (pietlover5145) 35. 07:41 PM - Re: Re: Selling my Pietenpol Project (amsafetyc@aol.com) 36. 09:05 PM - Re: Re: Selling my Pietenpol Project (Ryan Mueller) 37. 10:04 PM - corvair bearings (bryan green) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:57:16 AM PST US From: "bryan green" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Markels Piet Important please read and respond I'm in for 100. Bryan Green Elgin SC ----- Original Message ----- From: H RULE To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 11:11 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Markels Piet Important please read and respond If my $60 doesn't do it then I will send another $40;what ever it takes to get the job done is what I say.Jim hang in there help is on the way! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- From: H RULE To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Wed, January 20, 2010 10:10:42 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Markels Piet Important please read and respond As I've already said I have sent $20 US but I can send another $40 over the next week or so.That will add up to a total share.Lets all pitch in and help Jim keep the dream alive!!!By the way Jim congratulations on your new arrival when it gets here. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- From: "amsafetyc@aol.com" To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Wed, January 20, 2010 9:48:48 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Markels Piet Important please read and respond What began last night and through today demonstrated to all that there is indeed a family here a tie that binds strangers to one and other to commit to each other support and comfort. As you know one of our family is faced with a need that left few alternatives and through and by that he decided to give up his dream for the good of his family at a much greater purpose. I know Markle, I have visited with him and shared the idea of the Piet family legacy and what it means to the children and relatives who have stood by and watched, picked up a piece of sand paper a rub here and there and like magic a memory to last a life time is built, a bond across the limits and boundaries of time. One of the most fun things I have experienced is to see the joy and delight in Jim's face and eyes as the Model A comes to life and the sound fills the yard and his face with an unmistakable aura that cannot be described but only experienced. I find it impossible to see that sacrificed for what amounts to be financial decision for the here and now. We know that life turns on a time changing from day to day and crisis to crisis and some where in the middle is a glimmer of hope and light that makes the fight worth while. Many of were shocked and astounded by today's news of the Markle project announced sale and if I thought for a moment it was driven by frustration and loss of interest I world say okay he's moving on and God bless. That however is not the truth the truth is, he's taken the high road to provide for his immediate family and in so doing is giving up the dream and family legacy for the bucks of today. So rather than go on, Ill get off the soapbox and to the point I spoke with Jim and was able to get him to hold off on the sale decision and commitment for a week. During that week he has decided to accept the offer of a stock sale and take one partners to save the Piet , the dream and legacy. Here's where we come in. I said count me in as did many others and without hesitation we need to raise the selling price of $6000.00 to keep the Piet. Now few of us have that kind of cash in walking around money and may if not all of use are only 2 pay periods away from financial catastrophe. For many of us a few stops at the local pub, McDonalds and the all important double shot of mocha choka la tae whatever at 5 or 6 bucks a pop daily it doesn't take long to add up. Add up to the magic numbers. Here is what I am proposing, if you can pony up for 1 share at 60.00 we need only a 100 people to help naturally the more we can kick in the less the others will need to. The key is to get Jim the 6 K so how bout it? 100 people at 60.00 200 at 30.00 300 at 20.00 Realistically some of us have more disposable income than others so if we all kick in for a share the problem is solved, and Jim keeps donating his time energy blood and ambition to the Piet and the worst is we are all out a few bucks for a worthy cause. If we cant pull it off the Piet and the dream is going down the road on someone's trailer along with a big part of Jim and his legacy. As builders I think we can all appreciate the time, care, dedication and love that goes into the build. For $60.00 dollars to preserve that is a small price to pay on behalf of a friend, heck Jim and I can eat more pizza and drink more beer than that on a night at the hanger. Jim has agreed to graciously accept our offers and be responsible for the confidential book, if we cant pull this off, and I don't see why we cant the cash gets returned to the rightful owner and the Piet goes and the effort goes down as another failed attempt at the preservation of dignity and a dream. That's the deal. Count me in for a full share What are your thoughts? I am sure we can make it all pretty with certificates and that stuff but the need tonight and this week are the pledges, commitment and stock purchases. Please join me and the others to help one of our family keep the faith hope and legacy alive. I know if the roles were reversed Jim would Kick in without hesitation. Its time to share the love Thanks John http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?tronics.com/" rel=nofollow target=_blank>http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-Listhttp://www.===== ================ ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:12:40 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Markle Mania 2010 (aka Markle Pietenpol Fund) progress From: Ryan Mueller Good morning everyone, Thank you to everyone that has stepped up and sent in their commitments since yesterday night. It hasn't even been half a day yet and we have already crested the $1000 dollar mark! If you have not yet donated, please send us a message at* marklepietenpolfund@gmail.com* so we can add you to the list. Start the new year out right and help save Jim's Pietenpol! My internet provider's FTP server is down for the moment....I think I will use DropBox for a workaround for the status website. You can check out the progress of the effort at this address: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2314248/index.htm I will do my best to keep it updated throughout the day while I'm at work. Have a good day, Ryan ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:35:23 AM PST US From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]" Subject: Pietenpol-List: worth another read-------- ***How to donate to the Markle Pietenpol Fund*** Ryan, Despite my initial feelings that this whole Markle Mania 2010 thing was ju st something that was generated by John Recine having too much coffee or speed yesterday (you know I'm just harassi ng you John....) I took Ryan Mueller's e-mail below quite seriously and have responded to the e-mail below with th e caveat included by Ryan below which I have emboldened. Mike C. This is Jess & Ryan, and we will be handling the receipt and tracking of do nation commitments to the 'Markle Pietenpol Fund', or as John puts it: "MAR KLE MANIA 2010"! We have one week to secure solid commitments for $6,000 to help Jim keep hi s Pietenpol dream alive. At the end of that week Jim will take a look at th e amount of funds that have been committed and make his final decision as t o whether or not he can keep the Piet. If Jim gives the green light, we wil l then begin accepting the generous donations, and the funds will be deposi ted into a bank account created solely for this purpose. We will also inves tigate creating a Paypal account linked to that bank account so that donati ons can be made that way. Please note: DO NOT send money at this time. We (Jim, John, Jess and myself ) want to ensure that no funds are exchanged unless Jim gives the go ahead. We just ask that you make a solid commitment that you are prepared to fulf ill at this time next week. So, in order to register your donation please send an email to: marklepiete npolfund@gmail.com with your name, co ntact information, and the amount you would like to commit. I will create a simple web page to track the progress of the level of donations; I'll post the link to that site in the next day or two. All donations will be made i n confidence; it's up to you how or if you wish to disclose that informatio n publicly. Please open your hearts and your wallets, and get caught up in Markle Mania 2010!! Let's help Jim keep this crazy Pietenpol dream alive! Thank you, Ryan & Jess ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:58:44 AM PST US From: amsafetyc@aol.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: Hello Good people Coming to you from the Markle Mania center in Philadelphia this is John Recine, the love machine coming to you on the official day one of Markle Mania 2010. I just checked the tote board courtesy of the Ryan and Jess and it looks as though we are 1/6 th the way there , check it out _http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2314248/index.htm_ (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2314248/index.htm) . I have to say I am really excited about Markle Mania 2010, there are many opportunities to help a person, but few that result in part ownership of a friends dream. I got to say I am feeling the love today and hoping we can share it through this limited initial private offering. I am amazed at the talent in the group where in the world can a bunch of glue sniffing, sawdust munching, ornery pilots, builders and would be Orville's get together to support a friend. I am feelin the love and love what I am feelin, you folks are just too great. I have to say is short order to assemble such a team of volunteers from out of the heavens just for you, is amazing. At the close of the evening I found my self astonished by the outpouring and laughing to tears as a watched the Salute to Markle only to be awaken with the news of the pledges increasing. I am hoping we can continue the pace and shut this down in time. I am equally amazed at the offering and participation of Jess and Ryan, who can resist her great disposition, sweet smile and earnest committed to Markle Mania and if that doesn't get ya to open your wallet, well then there's Ryan mild mannered MARIENE, he's working the board and will move over to the collection of pledges. I don't know about you but I would much rather be charmed by Jess then visited by Ryan on a mission if you get my point! Either way I think they are great to this and a major bright spot in the family. I am a big believer of handing over gracefully what I cant defend successfully. Its is unfortunate that all this comes with the threat that the sooner we hit the magic go or no go amount or total the sooner the morning/daily/ frequent sermons stop. So share the love. Thanks John Recine the love machine ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:04:22 AM PST US From: amsafetyc@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: worth another read-------- ***How to donate to the Markl... unfortunate but true my skin is much thicker than it appears and my sense of humor broader and way more twisted than many know or can appreciate. Ju st don't knock the buzz, the coffee or the speed thing which you will find in the jar next to the cash register and behind the Schraffs mints. Pleas e feel free to take one on the way out of the theater. and we than you for your support In a message dated 1/21/2010 8:37:14 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov writes: Ryan, Despite my initial feelings that this whole Markle Mania 2010 thing was just something that was generated by John Recine having too much coffee or speed yesterday (you know I=99m ju st harassing you John.) I took Ryan Mueller=99s e-mail below quite seriously and have responded to the e-mail below with the caveat included by Ryan below which I have emboldened. Mike C. This is Jess & Ryan, and we will be handling the receipt and tracking of donation commitments to the 'Markle Pietenpol Fund', or as John puts it: "MARKLE MANIA 2010"! We have one week to secure solid commitments for $6,000 to help Jim keep his Pietenpol dream alive. At the end of that week Jim will take a look at the amount of funds that have been committed and make his final decision as to whether or not he can keep the Piet. If Jim gives the green light, we will then begin accepting the generous donations, and the funds will be deposited into a bank account created solely for this purpose. We will als o investigate creating a Paypal account linked to that bank account so that donations can be made that way. Please note: DO NOT send money at this time. We (Jim, John, Jess and myself) want to ensure that no funds are exchanged unless Jim gives the go ahead. We just ask that you make a solid commitment that you are prepared to fulfill at this time next week. So, in order to register your donation please send an email to: _marklepietenpolfund@gmail.com_ (mailto:marklepietenpolfund@gmail.com) wi th your name, contact information, and the amount you would like to commit. I wil l create a simple web page to track the progress of the level of donations; I'll post the link to that site in the next day or two. All donations will be made in confidence; it's up to you how or if you wish to disclose that information publicly. Please open your hearts and your wallets, and get caught up in Markle Mania 2010!! Let's help Jim keep this crazy Pietenpol dream alive! Thank you, Ryan & Jess http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution ======================== tion, , and _http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List_ (http://www.matronics. ======================== Forums! om/) ======================== = --> _http://www.matronics.com/contribution_ (http://www.matronics.com/contribu tion) ======================== ============ ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:23:25 AM PST US From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]" Subject: Pietenpol-List: 60 Minutes reveals the true nature of why Jim is selling his Piet [cid:image002.jpg@01CA9A7A.FBAFCAD0][cid:image003.jpg@01CA9A79.86658180] CBS Press Release 1/21/10 60 Minutes will present a special segment this Sunday evening focusing on t he exact nature behind the possible sale of Jim Markle's Pietenpol. In an exclusive interview with close friends and associates, 60 Minutes has revealed that Jim secretly harbors an extreme level of fear about flying something t hat he himself fabricated. Stay tuned for more details on this Sunday's edition of 60 Minutes. AP/UPI 1539 UTC ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:29:24 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Markle Mania 2010 (aka Markle Pietenpol Fund) progress **UPDATE** From: Ryan Mueller Hello everyone, A quick update: here is the proper address for the Markle Mania 2010 progress therm-o-meter: http://users.rcn.com/ryan.mueller/markle.htm. I will update the total throughout the day as donations come in. As you can see, thanks to your generosity we are almost 1/3 of the way there! That is tremendous!! Thank you to everyone who has so graciously donated to the effort. Please keep the support coming! If you haven't yet donated, please consider doing so. If you know someone that knows Jim, but who may not be a list regular please forward them the emails and see if they would like to help. Keep up the good work! Again, please send all donation emails to: marklepietenpolfund@gmail.com. Thank you! Ryan On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 7:05 AM, Ryan Mueller wrote: > Good morning everyone, > > Thank you to everyone that has stepped up and sent in their commitments > since yesterday night. It hasn't even been half a day yet and we have > already crested the $1000 dollar mark! If you have not yet donated, please > send us a message at* marklepietenpolfund@gmail.com* so we can add you to > the list. Start the new year out right and help save Jim's Pietenpol! > > My internet provider's FTP server is down for the moment....I think I will > use DropBox for a workaround for the status website. You can check out the > progress of the effort at this address: > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2314248/index.htm > > I will do my best to keep it updated throughout the day while I'm at work. > Have a good day, > > Ryan > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 07:36:55 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Markle Mania 2010 (aka Markle Pietenpol Fund) progress **UPDATE** From: Ryan Mueller We have cracked $2000! Keep it coming! On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 9:26 AM, Ryan Mueller wrote: > Hello everyone, > > A quick update: here is the proper address for the Markle Mania 2010 > progress therm-o-meter: http://users.rcn.com/ryan.mueller/markle.htm. I > will update the total throughout the day as donations come in. > > As you can see, thanks to > your generosity we are almost 1/3 of the way there! That is tremendous!! > Thank you to everyone who has so graciously donated to the effort. Please > keep the support coming! If you haven't yet donated, please consider doing > so. If you know someone that knows Jim, but who may not be a list regular > please forward them the emails and see if they would like to help. Keep up > the good work! > > Again, please send all donation emails to: marklepietenpolfund@gmail.com. > Thank you! > > > Ryan > > > On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 7:05 AM, Ryan Mueller wrote: > >> Good morning everyone, >> >> Thank you to everyone that has stepped up and sent in their commitments >> since yesterday night. It hasn't even been half a day yet and we have >> already crested the $1000 dollar mark! If you have not yet donated, please >> send us a message at* marklepietenpolfund@gmail.com* so we can add you to >> the list. Start the new year out right and help save Jim's Pietenpol! >> >> My internet provider's FTP server is down for the moment....I think I will >> use DropBox for a workaround for the status website. You can check out the >> progress of the effort at this address: >> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2314248/index.htm >> >> I will do my best to keep it updated throughout the day while I'm at work. >> Have a good day, >> >> Ryan >> > > > * > > * > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 08:11:39 AM PST US From: Dan Yocum Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Selling my Pietenpol Project Yeah, is the baby thing for real? I thought it was just a (purposeful) misinterpretation. If so, holy cow! Oh, and I'm in for a C note, too. Dan On 01/20/2010 11:18 PM, K5YAC wrote: > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "K5YAC" > > Seriously, a baby, is that the deal? I thought that was just started by a misread from John R. earlier today? > > This was the first I heard of a baby (see quotes), and I think the baby and the Piet were one in the same. Maybe I am missing the joke? Or, are congratulation really in order? > > > harvey.rule(at)rogers.com wrote: >> Now listen up you Canadian owners;ya hav ta write US funds on the check otherwise Jim will only get something less than $20.OK!My twenty is in the mail too!Good luck Jim and I hope ya get enough to cover that baby. > > > Amsafetyc wrote: >> They have a baby on the way? Congratulations Jimmy! Don't fret over it, its gonna take a while before you actually have to start buying additional groceries, that's what the moms are for. Hey can I be an uncle? How come we are just finding that out from someone else, dam man I am looking for cigars now. whens the baby due? boy or girl or too early to tell. By the time it arrives all this selling frenzy is gonna be over and you'll be back to building the Piet and filling the new dad role once more. Hell when I grow up I wanna be Jimmy! >> You Rascal a new baby, Jimmy you are the man! >> Do not archive or disconcert the masses >> John > > > -------- > Mark - working on wings > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=282661#282661 > > -- Dan Yocum Fermilab 630.840.6509 yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things." ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 08:31:17 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Selling my Pietenpol Project From: "K5YAC" Nope, I got the straight skinny from the horse's mouth, or in this case, the Markle himself. This was just another chain jerking by our resident prankster and rumor starter, John Recine. Had me going for a while too. -------- Mark - working on wings Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=282728#282728 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 08:55:01 AM PST US From: amsafetyc@aol.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: I thought it was just a (purposeful) misinterpretation. If so, holy cow! You are correct in your assessment not that I do have knowledge or connection into the family goings on I was making sport of the situation and the comments of a previous post containing the phrase, that baby or similar. I used that as a device to with humor in mind illustrate the powers and performance of "the Markle" Nothing more and certainly nothing I would be in a position to confirm or refute Sharing the love one day at a time John ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 12:09:03 PM PST US From: Rod Young Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Markle Mania 2010 (aka Markle Pietenpol Fund) progress **UPDATE** Not 100 Active users? How 'bout us lurkers with a dream? We're gonna show up and help make a diff erence too. There are a bunch of us out here with only a dream. Many of us have been to Broadhead at least once. Tim very Graciously gave me a ride in his beautiful red Piet. (thanks again Tim) Some just read the list daily a nd hang on to the dream that "someday" they will get to build too. Helping someone else hang onto their dream helps keep our dream alive. So - Count me in for $60.00 too. Come on List Lurkers - Make a down payment on your dream! Rod A Lurker with a Dream Do Not Archive Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Markle Mania 2010 (aka Markle Pietenpol Fund) progress **UPDATE** From: rmueller23@gmail.com We have cracked $2000! Keep it coming! On Thu=2C Jan 21=2C 2010 at 9:26 AM=2C Ryan Mueller wrote: Hello everyone=2C A quick update: here is the proper address for the Markle Mania 2010 progre ss therm-o-meter: http://users.rcn.com/ryan.mueller/markle.htm. I will upda te the total throughout the day as donations come in. As you can see=2C thanks to your generosity we are almost 1/3 of the way th ere! That is tremendous!! Thank you to everyone who has so graciously donat ed to the effort. Please keep the support coming! If you haven't yet donat ed=2C please consider doing so. If you know someone that knows Jim=2C but w ho may not be a list regular please forward them the emails and see if they would like to help. Keep up the good work! Again=2C please send all donation emails to: marklepietenpolfund@gmail.com. Thank you! Ryan On Thu=2C Jan 21=2C 2010 at 7:05 AM=2C Ryan Mueller wrote: Good morning everyone=2C Thank you to everyone that has stepped up and sent in their commitments sin ce yesterday night. It hasn't even been half a day yet and we have already crested the $1000 dollar mark! If you have not yet donated=2C please send u s a message at marklepietenpolfund@gmail.com so we can add you to the list. Start the new year out right and help save Jim's Pietenpol! My internet provider's FTP server is down for the moment....I think I will use DropBox for a workaround for the status website. You can check out the progress of the effort at this address: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2314248/ind ex.htm I will do my best to keep it updated throughout the day while I'm at work. Have a good day=2C Ryan " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List tp://forums.matronics.com _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution _________________________________________________________________ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 12:46:04 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Lurkers with dreams From: helspersew@aol.com Good People, I personally have been dreaming about building and flying this airplane fo r over 10 years. Now I am almost to the finish line, as is Jim Markle. I know how it feels to go through all the trials in life that these 10 year s have thrown in. I am very fortunate that I have been able to weather all the storms (so far) and able to go on to the finish (hopefully). That is why I think it is for a great cause to pledge a few bucks, so somebody el se can see their dream come to fruition after all the years of work. If I had to give up now, I would surely shrivel-up and die in my spirit. Dan Helsper Poplar Grove, IL ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 12:50:03 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Selling my Pietenpol Project From: Rick Holland Is BERLIN the German word for BROADHEAD? On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 11:30 PM, K5YAC wrote: > > > jhofmann(at)reesgroupinc. wrote: > > > > http://gallery.me.com/johnnyskyrocket#100017 ( > http://gallery.me.com/johnnyskyrocket#100017) > > > > > > -john- > > > That is the funniest thing I have seen in a long time. Holy smokes!! I was > laughing so hard I was crying. Had to watch it twice. > > "Crank snapping corvairs" Haa ha!! > > -------- > Mark - working on wings > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=282644#282644 > > -- Rick Holland Castle Rock, Colorado "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad" ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 12:54:07 PM PST US From: amsafetyc@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Markle Mania 2010 (aka Markle Pietenpol Fund) progress Rod, Well put and well placed, thanks for that expression of support and commitment, Dreamers, Lurkers and friends are all welcome to express their commitment, comments and considerations. My apologies if I somehow neglected to include or inadvertently did not invite anyone or group from their partic ipation in this cause. Thanks Rod I appreciate your commitment and correction, no offence was intended. John In a message dated 1/21/2010 3:10:42 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, montanarod@hotmail.com writes: Not 100 Active users? How 'bout us lurkers with a dream? We're gonna show up and help make a difference too. There are a bunch of us out here with only a dream. Many of us have been to Broadhead at least once. Tim very Graciously gave me a ride in his beautiful red Piet. (thanks again Tim) Some just read the list daily and hang on to the dream that "someday" they will get to build too. Helping someone else hang onto their dream helps keep our dream alive. So - Count me in for $60.00 too. Come on List Lurkers - Make a down payment on your dream! Rod A Lurker with a Dream Do Not Archive ____________________________________ Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Markle Mania 2010 (aka Markle Pietenpol Fund) progress **UPDATE** From: rmueller23@gmail.com We have cracked $2000! Keep it coming! On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 9:26 AM, Ryan Mueller <_rmueller23@gmail.com_ (mailto:rmueller23@gmail.com) > wrote: Hello everyone, A quick update: here is the proper address for the Markle Mania 2010 progress therm-o-meter: _http://users.rcn.com/ryan.mueller/markle.htm_ (http://users.rcn.com/ryan.mueller/markle.htm) . I will update the total throughout the day as donations come in. (http://users.rcn.com/ryan.mueller/markle.htm) As you can see, thanks to your generosity we are almost 1/3 of the way there! That is tremendous!! Thank you to everyone who has so graciously donated to the effort. Please keep the support coming! If you haven't yet donated, please consider doing so. If you know someone that knows Jim, but who may not be a list regular please forward them the emails and see if they would like to help. Keep up the good work! Again, please send all donation emails to: _marklepietenpolfund@gmail.com_ (mailto:marklepietenpolfund@gmail.com) . Thank you! Ryan On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 7:05 AM, Ryan Mueller <_rmueller23@gmail.com_ (mailto:rmueller23@gmail.com) > wrote: Good morning everyone, Thank you to everyone that has stepped up and sent in their commitments since yesterday night. It hasn't even been half a day yet and we have already crested the $1000 dollar mark! If you have not yet donated, please send us a message at _marklepietenpolfund@gmail.com_ (mailto:marklepietenpolfund@gmail.com) so we can add you to the list. Start the new year out right and help save Jim's Pietenpol! My internet provider's FTP server is down for the moment....I think I will use DropBox for a workaround for the status website. You can check out the progress of the effort at this address: _http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2314248/index.htm_ (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2314248/index.htm) I will do my best to keep it updated throughout the day while I'm at work. Have a good day, Ryan " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List tp://forums.matronics.com _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution st">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List ronics.com ww.matronics.com/contribution ____________________________________ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Ge09/direct/01/' target='_new'>Sign up now. (http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List) (http://www.matronics.com/contribution) ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 12:55:00 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Markle Mania 2010 (aka Markle Pietenpol Fund) progress **UPDATE** From: Ryan Mueller Thanks again for your contribution Rod! We are sitting at 35 contributions, for a total of $2890. Almost halfway to the goal on the first day! Now we just need to sustain the momentum. Remember, you can donate to the cause by emailing us at marklepietenpolfund@gmail.com with your pledged contribution. Also, you can check the running total at: http://users.rcn.com/ryan.mueller/markle.htm. Sorry it's not fancier; I have been updating the total as contributions come in, so at least it's accurate. :P Thank you everyone! Ryan On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 2:07 PM, Rod Young wrote: > Not 100 Active users? > How 'bout us lurkers with a dream? We're gonna show up and help make a > difference too. There are a bunch of us out here with only a dream. Many of > us have been to Broadhead at least once. Tim very Graciously gave me a ride > in his beautiful red Piet. (thanks again Tim) Some just read the list daily > and hang on to the dream that "someday" they will get to build too. Helping > someone else hang onto their dream helps keep our dream alive. > > So - Count me in for $60.00 too. > > Come on List Lurkers - Make a down payment on your dream! > > > *Rod* > *A Lurker with a Dream* > Do Not Archive > > > ------------------------------ > Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2010 09:35:34 -0600 > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Markle Mania 2010 (aka Markle Pietenpol Fund) > progress **UPDATE** > From: rmueller23@gmail.com > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > > > We have cracked $2000! Keep it coming! > > On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 9:26 AM, Ryan Mueller wrote: > > Hello everyone, > > A quick update: here is the proper address for the Markle Mania 2010 > progress therm-o-meter: http://users.rcn.com/ryan.mueller/markle.htm. I > will update the total throughout the day as donations come in. > > As you can see, thanks to > your generosity we are almost 1/3 of the way there! That is tremendous!! > Thank you to everyone who has so graciously donated to the effort. Please > keep the support coming! If you haven't yet donated, please consider doing > so. If you know someone that knows Jim, but who may not be a list regular > please forward them the emails and see if they would like to help. Keep up > the good work! > > Again, please send all donation emails to: marklepietenpolfund@gmail.com. > Thank you! > > > Ryan > > > On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 7:05 AM, Ryan Mueller wrote: > > Good morning everyone, > > Thank you to everyone that has stepped up and sent in their commitments > since yesterday night. It hasn't even been half a day yet and we have > already crested the $1000 dollar mark! If you have not yet donated, please > send us a message at* marklepietenpolfund@gmail.com* so we can add you to > the list. Start the new year out right and help save Jim's Pietenpol! > > My internet provider's FTP server is down for the moment....I think I will > use DropBox for a workaround for the status website. You can check out the > progress of the effort at this address: > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2314248/index.htm > > I will do my best to keep it updated throughout the day while I'm at work. > Have a good day, > > Ryan > > > * > > " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List > tp://forums.matronics.com > _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > * > > > * > > st">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-Listronics.comww.matronics.com/contribution > * > > > ------------------------------ > Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Ge09/direct/01/' target='_new'>Sign up now. > > * > > * > > ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 12:57:35 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: I'm not sending Markle a dime ! From: Rick Holland And it started with me when Jim bought me dinner and beer down in downtown Castle Rock after helping me get my Corvair started for the first time (and make a YouTube video of it). Rick On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 5:08 PM, Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation] wrote: > He=92s a fourflusher Marybeth ! This man is trying to have his way > with you=85=85..common=85..let=92s go. > > > Jim Markle writes: > > > I'm REALLY consumed with dealing with the "how does a guy end up with > friends like this?" question. > > > You know Jim it all started when we saw you coming out of the women=92s > shower at Brodhead and then it really helped when > > we heard you making fun of Grega=92s after a few beers around the fire > pit. What did it for me was when you bought me dinner > > with your brother at Longhorn Steak House. That sealed it for me. > > > The burning question is how do *you* get RID of some of us ??????????** > > * * > > * > =========== =========== =========== =========== > * > > -- Rick Holland Castle Rock, Colorado "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad" ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 12:59:00 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Hello good people From: Rick Holland I will also go for $100 and would go for the JM tshirt. Rick On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 12:51 AM, Gary Boothe wrote: > Well, if Hofmann=92s involved, I=92m thinking that I want a Markle Mania > T-shirt, too. On top of my $100 buy-in, I=92d buy a t-shirt + $10 contrib ution > to the Markle Foundation (that is a non-profit organization, right?). How > about, =93Markle, I=92m there for you, Man!=94 That=92s better than, =93M arkle, smell > my dairy air!=94 > > > Gary Boothe > > Cool, CA > > Pietenpol > > WW Corvair Conversion > > Tail done, Fuselage on gear > > 16 ribs done > > > *From:* owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto: > owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of * > amsafetyc@aol.com > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 20, 2010 8:48 PM > *To:* pietenpol-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* Pietenpol-List: Hello good people > > > I have to say I am fortunate to have been able to enlist the help and > assistance of Ryan and Jess Mueller who have graciously accepted the tas k > of setting up the finical accounting of your stock purchases. along with the > keeping of the books tally and commitments. Keeps things in the hands of a > third party with all good intentions so if ya don't mind please run all y our > pledges, commitments and funds through them. I asked them to set up the > banking and mechanics to see that we get it all done clean and neat. > > > And if they have the time to create or with John Hofmann who has > also graciously offered to produce the certificates of stock share owners hip > with proof identification watermarks a compass in the stock and a thing t hat > tells time. that would be great and highly appreciated. > > > Thank you all for your generous out pouring of the love and commitment to > Markle Mania 2010 > > > John > > > * * > > * * > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > *http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List* > > ** > > ** > > ** > > *http://forums.matronics.com* > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > *http://www.matronics.com/contribution* > > ** > > * * > > * > =========== =========== =========== =========== > * > > -- Rick Holland Castle Rock, Colorado "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad" ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 12:59:03 PM PST US From: John Hofmann Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Selling my Pietenpol Project That goes without saying.... Salute to Jim Markle. http://gallery.me.com/johnnyskyrocket#100017 John Hofmann Vice-President, Information Technology The Rees Group, Inc. 2810 Crossroads Drive, Ste 3800 Madison, WI 53718 Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150 Fax: 608.443.2474 Email: jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com On Jan 21, 2010, at 2:49 PM, Rick Holland wrote: > Is BERLIN the German word for BROADHEAD? > > > On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 11:30 PM, K5YAC wrote: > > > jhofmann(at)reesgroupinc. wrote: > > > > http://gallery.me.com/johnnyskyrocket#100017 (http://gallery.me.com/johnnyskyrocket#100017) > > > > > > -john- > > > That is the funniest thing I have seen in a long time. Holy smokes!! I was laughing so hard I was crying. Had to watch it twice. > > "Crank snapping corvairs" Haa ha!! > > -------- > Mark - working on wings > > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=282644#282644 > > > > > > > > ========== > st" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List > ========== > http://forums.matronics.com > ========== > le, List Admin. > ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > ========== > > > > > > > -- > Rick Holland > Castle Rock, Colorado > > "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad" > > > ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 01:11:21 PM PST US From: "bryan green" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Hello good people Tee shirt, did someone say tee shirt. Bryan Green Elgin SC ----- Original Message ----- From: Rick Holland To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 3:58 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Hello good people I will also go for $100 and would go for the JM tshirt. Rick On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 12:51 AM, Gary Boothe wrote: Well, if Hofmann=92s involved, I=92m thinking that I want a Markle Mania T-shirt, too. On top of my $100 buy-in, I=92d buy a t-shirt + $10 contribution to the Markle Foundation (that is a non-profit organization, right?). How about, =93Markle, I=92m there for you, Man!=94 That=92s better than, =93Markle, smell my dairy air!=94 Gary Boothe Cool, CA Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion Tail done, Fuselage on gear 16 ribs done From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of amsafetyc@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 8:48 PM To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: Hello good people I have to say I am fortunate to have been able to enlist the help and assistance of Ryan and Jess Mueller who have graciously accepted the task of setting up the finical accounting of your stock purchases. along with the keeping of the books tally and commitments. Keeps things in the hands of a third party with all good intentions so if ya don't mind please run all your pledges, commitments and funds through them. I asked them to set up the banking and mechanics to see that we get it all done clean and neat. And if they have the time to create or with John Hofmann who has also graciously offered to produce the certificates of stock share ownership with proof identification watermarks a compass in the stock and a thing that tells time. that would be great and highly appreciated. Thank you all for your generous out pouring of the love and commitment to Markle Mania 2010 John http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-Listhttp://forums.matronics. comhttp://www.matronics.com/contribution " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List tp://forums.matronics.com _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution -- Rick Holland Castle Rock, Colorado "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad" ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 02:52:45 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Markle Mania 2010 progress **UPDATE** From: Ryan Mueller More than halfway there!!! 38 generous pledged contributions totaling $3,190. Woohoo! Ryan ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 02:52:51 PM PST US From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]" Subject: Pietenpol-List: this group is really incredible Dear Infidels, You know Jack Phillips and others I have talked with who are members of oth er airplane forums remind me from time to time that those other groups often times have brazen a-holes o n their lists, spoiled rich guys who throw a tantrum if Part A from kit B doesn't exactly fit Part C and they h ave to enlarge three screw holes and bitch about it but THIS LIST-----you guys---all of you guys are such a BETT ER class of down to earth individuals who each in his own right I hold in higher esteem and have more respect for than ANY other KIT builder rich guy/ fast-build/ builder-assistance builder. Most of you have all had to FAB RICATE your parts out of RAW materials, you have had to LEARN how to do each step of the construction process, man y of you have a MYRIAD of talents and knowledge that only you know about and so many of you are willing to st ep up to the list and share your information freely with others so they can finish, fly, and pass it on. We really do have a great group of guys on the list, a great group of guys, gals, and families who show up at Brodhead and of all the for crap causes we see come and go in our lives and stupid t elemarketing people badgering us at home for donations for this or that, this is truly what I consider to be th e best of human nature at work as illustrated by this GRASSROOTS effort from the little guys, the working men and women t o just pitch in for a really good person for a really good reason without even being prodded or hog tied----just all of your good human nature rising to the surface like you do when you see things like the earthquake victims in Haiti or for say the relief fund for those who lost dear, dear loved ones in the New York City Terrorist Murders on September 11th ye ars back. it sure is good to see people at their best like I'm watching unfold on this list. Well enough of this serious stuff---let's talk about things like unrestrain ed flatulence around campfires or making Three Stooges gestures and sounds before someone suggests a foolish group h ug ! Mike C. ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 03:46:14 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: this group is really incredible From: Matt Redmond >>>Well enough of this serious stuff---let=92s talk about things like unrestrained flatulence around campfires<<< You know you couldn't say that without some twisted member of the list bringing up the funniest scene in one of the funniest movies ever: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-308117011107602891# On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 4:21 PM, Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation] wrote: > Dear Infidels, > > > You know Jack Phillips and others I have talked with who are members of > other airplane forums remind me > > from time to time that those other groups often times have brazen a-holes > on their lists, spoiled rich guys who > > throw a tantrum if Part A from kit B doesn=92t exactly fit Part C and th ey > have to enlarge three screw holes and > > bitch about it but THIS LIST-----you guys---all of you guys are such a > BETTER class of down to earth individuals > > who each in his own right I hold in higher esteem and have more respect f or > than ANY other KIT builder rich guy/ > > fast-build/ builder-assistance builder. Most of you have all had to > FABRICATE your parts out of RAW materials, > > you have had to LEARN how to do each step of the construction process, > many of you have a MYRIAD of talents > > and knowledge that only you know about and so many of you are willing to > step up to the list and share your > > information freely with others so they can finish, fly, and pass it on. > > > We really do have a great group of guys on the list, a great group of guy s, > gals, and families who show up at Brodhead > > and of all the for crap causes we see come and go in our lives and stupid > telemarketing people badgering us at > > home for donations for this or that, this is truly what I consider to be > the best of human nature at work as illustrated > > by this GRASSROOTS effort from the little guys, the working men and women > to just pitch in for a really good person > > for a really good reason without even being prodded or hog tied----just a ll > of your good human nature rising to the surface > > like you do when you see things like the earthquake victims in Haiti or f or > say the relief fund for those who lost dear, > > dear loved ones in the New York City Terrorist Murders on September 11thy ears back. it sure is good to see people > > at their best like I=92m watching unfold on this list. > > > Well enough of this serious stuff---let=92s talk about things like > unrestrained flatulence around campfires or making > > Three Stooges gestures and sounds before someone suggests a foolish group > hug ! > > > Mike C. > > > * > =========== =========== =========== =========== > * > > ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 03:47:45 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: this group is really incredible From: "Bill Church" You mean like this? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=282801#282801 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/grouphug_741.jpg ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 03:51:25 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Selling my Pietenpol Project From: "Pieti Lowell" Well over 80 and still have 2 (two) of everything, sooo why not 2 (two). certificates $120.00. for Merkle's Piet.? Pieti Lowell Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=282803#282803 ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 03:54:14 PM PST US From: "Gary Boothe" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: this group is really incredible Mike, Well said.and not forgetting that Markle is like the Good Will Ambassador of this fine group.traveling around the country . grousing meals and drinks.I mean.establishing great relationships everywhere he goes.all based on the Pietenpol. Too bad for the Boys Down Under, and across the Pond, that his employer doesn't have business there. I suspect others feel as I do, that losing him as that ambassador would be a loss to us all. Group hug, yet? Humbly, Gary Boothe Cool, CA Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion Tail done, Fuselage on gear 16 ribs done Do not archive From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation] Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 2:21 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: this group is really incredible Dear Infidels, You know Jack Phillips and others I have talked with who are members of other airplane forums remind me from time to time that those other groups often times have brazen a-holes on their lists, spoiled rich guys who throw a tantrum if Part A from kit B doesn't exactly fit Part C and they have to enlarge three screw holes and bitch about it but THIS LIST-----you guys---all of you guys are such a BETTER class of down to earth individuals who each in his own right I hold in higher esteem and have more respect for than ANY other KIT builder rich guy/ fast-build/ builder-assistance builder. Most of you have all had to FABRICATE your parts out of RAW materials, you have had to LEARN how to do each step of the construction process, many of you have a MYRIAD of talents and knowledge that only you know about and so many of you are willing to step up to the list and share your information freely with others so they can finish, fly, and pass it on. We really do have a great group of guys on the list, a great group of guys, gals, and families who show up at Brodhead and of all the for crap causes we see come and go in our lives and stupid telemarketing people badgering us at home for donations for this or that, this is truly what I consider to be the best of human nature at work as illustrated by this GRASSROOTS effort from the little guys, the working men and women to just pitch in for a really good person for a really good reason without even being prodded or hog tied----just all of your good human nature rising to the surface like you do when you see things like the earthquake victims in Haiti or for say the relief fund for those who lost dear, dear loved ones in the New York City Terrorist Murders on September 11th years back. it sure is good to see people at their best like I'm watching unfold on this list. Well enough of this serious stuff---let's talk about things like unrestrained flatulence around campfires or making Three Stooges gestures and sounds before someone suggests a foolish group hug ! Mike C. ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 05:16:41 PM PST US From: Rod Young Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Markle Mania 2010 (aka Markle Pietenpol Fund) progress John=2C No Offence taken. I hope I didn't imply there was. Like Mike Cuy says this is probably the greatest group on the net. The thing about not building yet and just being a lurker is that you guys w ho are building don't know us lurkers yet. But we lurkers feel like we kno w you because we've been following your progress and enjoying your images a nd first flight reports for some time. Many of us have been where Markle is at and have humbly recieved from others=2C knowing that we could not rep ay those who helped us but would have to simply help someone else if we wer e able to. When looking at the big picture=2C we see that these tough times last a relatively short period of time and then things get better. Our small investment in Jim's Piet will be multiplied greatly with the plea sure that it will bring him and his family in the future. Rod A Lurker with a Dream Do Not Archive From: amsafetyc@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Markle Mania 2010 (aka Markle Pietenpol Fund) progress Rod=2C Well put and well placed=2C thanks for that expression of support and commi tment=2C Dreamers=2C Lurkers and friends are all welcome to express their c ommitment=2C comments and considerations. My apologies if I somehow neglect ed to include or inadvertently did not invite anyone or group from their pa rticipation in this cause. Thanks Rod I appreciate your commitment and correction=2C no offence was in tended. John In a message dated 1/21/2010 3:10:42 P.M. Eastern Standard Time=2C montanar od@hotmail.com writes: Not 100 Active users? How 'bout us lurkers with a dream? We're gonna show up and help make a diff erence too. There are a bunch of us out here with only a dream. Many of us have been to Broadhead at least once. Tim very Graciously gave me a ride in his beautiful red Piet. (thanks again Tim) Some just read the list daily a nd hang on to the dream that "someday" they will get to build too. Helping someone else hang onto their dream helps keep our dream alive. So - Count me in for $60.00 too. Come on List Lurkers - Make a down payment on your dream! Rod A Lurker with a Dream Do Not Archive Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Markle Mania 2010 (aka Markle Pietenpol Fund) progress **UPDATE** From: rmueller23@gmail.com We have cracked $2000! Keep it coming! On Thu=2C Jan 21=2C 2010 at 9:26 AM=2C Ryan Mueller wrote: Hello everyone=2C A quick update: here is the proper address for the Markle Mania 2010 progre ss therm-o-meter: http://users.rcn.com/ryan.mueller/markle.htm. I will upda te the total throughout the day as donations come in. As you can see=2C thanks to your generosity we are almost 1/3 of the way th ere! That is tremendous!! Thank you to everyone who has so graciously donat ed to the effort. Please keep the support coming! If you haven't yet donat ed=2C please consider doing so. If you know someone that knows Jim=2C but w ho may not be a list regular please forward them the emails and see if they would like to help. Keep up the good work! Again=2C please send all donation emails to: marklepietenpolfund@gmail.com. Thank you! Ryan On Thu=2C Jan 21=2C 2010 at 7:05 AM=2C Ryan Mueller wrote: Good morning everyone=2C Thank you to everyone that has stepped up and sent in their commitments sin ce yesterday night. It hasn't even been half a day yet and we have already crested the $1000 dollar mark! If you have not yet donated=2C please send u s a message at marklepietenpolfund@gmail.com so we can add you to the list. Start the new year out right and help save Jim's Pietenpol! My internet provider's FTP server is down for the moment....I think I will use DropBox for a workaround for the status website. You can check out the progress of the effort at this address: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2314248/ind ex.htm I will do my best to keep it updated throughout the day while I'm at work. Have a good day=2C Ryan " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List tp://forums.matronics.com _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution st">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List ronics.com ww.matronics.com/contribution Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Ge09/direct/01/' target='_new'>Sign up no w. t href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.mat ronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List ms.matronics.com/">http://forums.matronics.com tp://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution _________________________________________________________________ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. ________________________________ Message 28 ____________________________________ Time: 05:32:53 PM PST US From: airlion Subject: Pietenpol-List: engine cooling -resending -ignore earlier email Hey guys, I am ready to fly but my CHT says not to. On my taxi test at idle it reads 300, but when I try increased RPM it goes up to 400 0r above. I have a corvair with a warp drive prop. My cowling is square with two 5 inch inlet holes with the proper exit amount. The warp drive hub takes the prop and pitch out beyond the inlet cooling holes thereby not giving me enough cooling air on the ground. Barry Davis told me that he heard of one builder with the same problem and his fix was to make two tabs perpendicular to the blades to force air to the cylinders on the ground. They would be balanced of course but my thought would be to make a small prop shape to bolt on to the hub. It would be pitched to the prop thereby forcing air through the cowling. I hope I am making sense out of all this, so any thoughts from the group on this?`cheers, Gardiner Mason ________________________________ Message 29 ____________________________________ Time: 05:33:57 PM PST US From: airlion Subject: Pietenpol-List: engine cooling Hey guys, I am ready to fly but my CHT says not to. On my taxi test at idle it reads 300, but when I try increased RPM it goes up to 400 0r above. I have a corvair with a warp drive prop. My cowling is square with two 6 inch inlet holes with the proper exit amount. The warp drive hub takes the prop and pitch out beyond the inlet cooling holes thereby not giving me enough cooling air on the grou` --- On Thu, 1/21/10, K5YAC wrote: > From: K5YAC > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Selling my Pietenpol Project > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Date: Thursday, January 21, 2010, 11:30 AM > --> Pietenpol-List message posted > by: "K5YAC" > > Nope, I got the straight skinny from the horse's > mouth, or in this case, the Markle himself. This was > just another chain jerking by our resident prankster and > rumor starter, John Recine. Had me going for a while > too. > > -------- > Mark - working on wings > > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=282728#282728 > > > > > > > > Email Forum - > FAQ, > - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - > List Contribution Web Site - > -Matt > Dralle, List Admin. > > > > ________________________________ Message 30 ____________________________________ Time: 05:41:52 PM PST US From: "Jack" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: this group is really incredible Well said Mike. I spent years building my tin can and monitoring the RV8 list. Count me in. Jack DSM Do not archive _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation] Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 4:21 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: this group is really incredible Dear Infidels, You know Jack Phillips and others I have talked with who are members of other airplane forums remind me from time to time that those other groups often times have brazen a-holes on their lists, spoiled rich guys who throw a tantrum if Part A from kit B doesn't exactly fit Part C and they have to enlarge three screw holes and bitch about it but THIS LIST-----you guys---all of you guys are such a BETTER class of down to earth individuals who each in his own right I hold in higher esteem and have more respect for than ANY other KIT builder rich guy/ fast-build/ builder-assistance builder. Most of you have all had to FABRICATE your parts out of RAW materials, you have had to LEARN how to do each step of the construction process, many of you have a MYRIAD of talents and knowledge that only you know about and so many of you are willing to step up to the list and share your information freely with others so they can finish, fly, and pass it on. We really do have a great group of guys on the list, a great group of guys, gals, and families who show up at Brodhead and of all the for crap causes we see come and go in our lives and stupid telemarketing people badgering us at home for donations for this or that, this is truly what I consider to be the best of human nature at work as illustrated by this GRASSROOTS effort from the little guys, the working men and women to just pitch in for a really good person for a really good reason without even being prodded or hog tied----just all of your good human nature rising to the surface like you do when you see things like the earthquake victims in Haiti or for say the relief fund for those who lost dear, dear loved ones in the New York City Terrorist Murders on September 11th years back. it sure is good to see people at their best like I'm watching unfold on this list. Well enough of this serious stuff---let's talk about things like unrestrained flatulence around campfires or making Three Stooges gestures and sounds before someone suggests a foolish group hug ! Mike C. ________________________________ Message 31 ____________________________________ Time: 05:56:28 PM PST US From: "Gary Boothe" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: engine cooling -resending -ignore earlier email Gardiner, Might be a good question to post on the Corvair list, too, but are you sure you have enough 'vent' at the bottom to exhaust the air? And equally sure you have a good seal around your fairings? And...this is a longshot...but, on my Aeronca Sedan, I had a CHT gauge that was just plain wrong. I finally discovered it when I put the end in some boiling water...did you know that water actually boils at 300deg? ;-0 Gary Boothe Cool, CA Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion Tail done, Fuselage on gear 16 ribs done -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of airlion Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 4:06 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: engine cooling -resending -ignore earlier email Hey guys, I am ready to fly but my CHT says not to. On my taxi test at idle it reads 300, but when I try increased RPM it goes up to 400 0r above. I have a corvair with a warp drive prop. My cowling is square with two 5 inch inlet holes with the proper exit amount. The warp drive hub takes the prop and pitch out beyond the inlet cooling holes thereby not giving me enough cooling air on the ground. Barry Davis told me that he heard of one builder with the same problem and his fix was to make two tabs perpendicular to the blades to force air to the cylinders on the ground. They would be balanced of course but my thought would be to make a small prop shape to bolt on to the hub. It would be pitched to the prop thereby forcing air through the cowling. I hope I am making sense out of all this, so any thoughts from the group on this?`cheers, Gardiner Mason ________________________________ Message 32 ____________________________________ Time: 06:55:45 PM PST US From: shad bell Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: engine cooling -resending -ignore earlier email Gardiner, It sounds like possibly an eronious reading of the cht.- I don' t recall our cht's reading that high on the ground.- Are you using the st ock corvair cht probe?, location?- And what are the ambient temps?- As a reference, what oil cooler set up do you have, and is oil temp high.- I f possible try doing some ground runs with the cowling off, I don't know if you have the pressure cowl, or eyebrows, but see if it makes a difference. - Do a vissual check of the heads and make sure you don't have any induct ion leaks, at the head, or intake, detonation will ruin your day (not to me ntion your engine, trust me, we learned the hard way!)- One easy way to c heck (albeit not 100% accurate) for induction leaks is run the engine up to full power and pull the carb heat on, and see if your rpm's drop off, if t hey increase you are either way too lean or you have an induction leak lean ing out your engine.- Any leak around a gasket down stream of the cabarator will lean the mixture.- And finnaly double check the timing, i f it is too far advanced it might increase the CHT. - Hope this gives you some usefull advise, at least hings to check foe, Shad - P.S.- keep me informed, I will think some more about it=0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 33 ____________________________________ Time: 07:08:29 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: engine cooling -resending -ignore earlier email From: "dwilson" I am sure you have checked both the sender and the gauge. What is your oil temperature doing ? And did you clean out all the aluminum flashing from the heads during the rebuild. Temperature seems very high if you are certain that air is moving through the engine compartment. Double check ignition timing. What carb are you using ? DW Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=282830#282830 ________________________________ Message 34 ____________________________________ Time: 07:14:34 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Selling my Pietenpol Project From: "pietlover5145" Hello to the wonderful and very generous piet group. Ryan and I have been tallying your pledges and man, it is overwhelming. We have had more than 46 people commit to donations for Markle Mania and our grand total so far is $3,760. Our highest donation so far has been $150, and we have had contributors from as far away as Australia and South America. List-regulars, lurkers, family and friends have all offer their contributions and they are all greatly appreciated. Here are some websites that you can visit to get into the Markle Mania spirit: John Hofman's Salute to Jim Markle http://gallery.me.com/johnnyskyrocket#100017 Ryan's Updated Donation Tally: http://users.rcn.com/ryan.mueller/markle.htm This new and updated site also includes confidential tallys of donations. And of course, you may email marklepietenpolfund@gmail.com to make a pledge. I hope that we can make this dream happen for Jim and his family. Thank you all so much for your tireless efforts and heartfelt donations! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=282831#282831 ________________________________ Message 35 ____________________________________ Time: 07:41:37 PM PST US From: amsafetyc@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Selling my Pietenpol Project Jess, Thanks for the update. Hard to believe just 24 hours ago we had an idea and now we are almost 2/3 there. I don't know where or how where we could ever find a finer bunch of folks. I hope the spirit keeps the Markle O Mometer rising to the goal. We are rapidly approaching the mark it would be great to get to it by the closing of the market. Markle a man of his word, has told me if we don't hit it by closing time then its over, he's not willing or wanting to drag this on or out. Once its done its done no going back and no regrets I agreed with him. So the time table has been set we are 23 hours down and 2/3 there well almost. In a message dated 1/21/2010 10:15:21 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, jessica.ozbirn@gmail.com writes: http://users.rcn.com/ryan.mueller/markle.htm ________________________________ Message 36 ____________________________________ Time: 09:05:47 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Selling my Pietenpol Project From: Ryan Mueller I'm headed to bed for the night, so the Markle-Mometer will not be updated any further until the morning. Please keep sending in your generous contributions...we've made tremendous progress in just 24 hours, and now we need to keep it up until we hit the finish line. I hope to be able to add in a big bump to the total in the morning. Be creative...enlist others! Jess's mother Mary is in for a share, and even one of Jess's co-workers threw in $10 (she didn't give them a sales pitch, she was just telling the story of what the group is trying to do and they wanted to help). Have a good night everyone, and thank you all! Ryan On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 9:31 PM, wrote: > Jess, > > Thanks for the update. Hard to believe just 24 hours ago we had an idea and > now we are almost 2/3 there. I don't know where or how where we could ever > find a finer bunch of folks. I hope the spirit keeps the Markle O Mometer > rising to the goal. We are rapidly approaching the mark it would be great to > get to it by the closing of the market. > > Markle a man of his word, has told me if we don't hit it by closing time > then its over, he's not willing or wanting to drag this on or out. Once its > done its done no going back and no regrets I agreed with him. So the time > table has been set we are 23 hours down and 2/3 there well almost. > > > In a message dated 1/21/2010 10:15:21 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > jessica.ozbirn@gmail.com writes: > > http://users.rcn.com/ryan.mueller/markle.htm > > * > > * > > ________________________________ Message 37 ____________________________________ Time: 10:04:14 PM PST US From: "bryan green" Subject: Pietenpol-List: corvair bearings Hey guys, I am looking for a set of std. main and rod bearings for my corvair project if you have some laying around let me know. I have the .010 under if someone needs them. 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