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     1. 05:38 AM - Re: tip for when your inspector comes (airlion)
     2. 06:55 AM - Aileron piano hinge question (Gene Rambo)
     3. 07:18 AM - piano hinge question (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation])
     4. 07:27 AM - Ohio Pietenpol Fly-In June 2010 (shad bell)
     5. 07:36 AM - Re: Ohio Pietenpol Fly-In June 2010 (K5YAC)
     6. 07:39 AM - Re: Ohio Pietenpol Fly-In June 2010 (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation])
     7. 07:39 AM - Re: piano hinge question (Gene Rambo)
     8. 07:44 AM - Re: piano hinge question (shad bell)
     9. 07:48 AM - Re: Ohio Pietenpol Fly-In June 2010 (Jim Markle)
    10. 07:57 AM - Re: Ohio Pietenpol Fly-In June 2010 (Gene Rambo)
    11. 07:58 AM - piano hinge question (Oscar Zuniga)
    12. 08:03 AM - piano hinge question (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation])
    13. 08:06 AM - Shad's velcro idea ! piano hinge question (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation])
    14. 08:14 AM - what to do with leftover piano hinge ? (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation])
    15. 08:34 AM - CC wing cargo cover hinge idea (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation])
    16. 08:40 AM - Re: Shad's velcro idea ! piano hinge question (K5YAC)
    17. 08:48 AM - Re: Aileron piano hinge question (Jack Phillips)
    18. 09:07 AM - Re: Aileron piano hinge question (K5YAC)
    19. 09:45 AM - Re: Re: Aileron piano hinge question (Jack Phillips)
    20. 09:51 AM - Re: piano hinge question (Jack)
    21. 11:04 AM - Re: piano hinge question (Jack Phillips)
    22. 12:39 PM - Re: piano hinge question (shad bell)
    23. 12:42 PM - Re: piano hinge question (K5YAC)
    24. 02:32 PM - Re: CC wing cargo cover hinge idea (taildrags)
    25. 02:37 PM - Re: what to do with leftover piano hinge ? (taildrags)
    26. 02:40 PM - Re: Ohio Pietenpol Fly-In June 2010 (Tim White)
    27. 02:40 PM - Shad's velcro idea ! piano hinge question (Oscar Zuniga)
    28. 03:48 PM - Re: Shad's velcro idea ! piano hinge question (Kip and Beth Gardner)
    29. 03:58 PM - Re: Ohio Pietenpol Fly-In June 2010 (Kip and Beth Gardner)
    30. 04:13 PM - Re: Ohio Pietenpol Fly-In June 2010 (Jason Holmes)
    31. 06:25 PM - Re: Ohio Pietenpol Fly-In June 2010 (Don Emch)
    32. 06:46 PM - Re: Re: Ohio Pietenpol Fly-In June 2010 (John Hofmann)
    33. 07:24 PM - Re: Ohio Pietenpol Fly-In June 2010 (shad bell)
    34. 11:52 PM - Wing ()
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | Re: tip for when your inspector comes | 
      
      
      
      ----- Original Message ----
      From: Tim Willis <timothywillis@earthlink.net>
      Sent: Tue, January 26, 2010 9:21:59 PM
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: tip for when your inspector comes
      
      
      Or at least find an inspector named "Gator"
      NO archive, pls
      
      -----Original Message-----
      >From: Oscar Zuniga <taildrags@hotmail.com>
      >Sent: Jan 26, 2010 4:06 PM
      >To: Pietenpol List <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
      >Subject: Pietenpol-List: tip for when your inspector comes
      >
      >
      >
      >When I got 41CC, it had no compass deviation
      >card, no marked ranges or redlines on any of
      >the instruments, and it was signed off
      >and had its test time flown off.
      > 
      >I'm just sayin'... you should think about
      >taking your airplane to Louisiana to get it
      >inspected ;o)
      >
      >Oscar Zuniga
      >Air Camper NX41CC
      >San Antonio, TX
      >mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
      >website at http://www.flysquirrel.net                           
      >
      >
      
      
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| Subject:  | Aileron piano hinge question | 
      
      For all of you guys who have used piano hinges for your ailerons:
      
      I am installing my aileron hinges now.  As many of you have (correctly) 
      advised, because the top of the aileron spar is beveled, I made sure 
      that I placed the attachment bolt/screw holes far enough down to give 
      clearance on the back side of the spar for the nuts/nutplates.  I put 
      them at what I thought was the minimum distance down, only 3/8" from the 
      top of the rear face of the spar.  I placed the hinge so that the top of 
      the hinge is flush with the top of the wing (i.e., the top of the rib 
      capstrips.
      
       All of this being said, set up as I have it this ends up with the 
      attachment screws a LONG way from the hinge point, something just over 
      1", and very near the edge of the hinge (I opted to buy 3" wide hinges 
      (1.5" per side), wider than most on here, because I saw this as a 
      potential problem).  Does this bother anyone?  I am wondering about the 
      potential for the hinge to bend away from the aileron spar because of 
      the distance between the hinge line and the line of screws.  Of course, 
      because the spar is angled, the screws are pretty much in shear anyway, 
      so it may not be a problem.
      
      The solutions I see are (1) move the hinge down lower so that it is 
      below the top of the wing.  This could, I suppose, cause a clearance 
      problem between the opposing capstrips.  (2) I could use a wider hinge 
      on the aileron half, which would give more edge distance between the 
      bolt hole and the edge of the hinge.  This would not do anything about 
      keeping it from bending, if that is a real problem.
      
      So, how far down on the hinge are the screws for most of you guys?  And, 
      how low/high do most of you have your hinge mounted?
      
      Thanks,
      
      Gene
      
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| Subject:  | piano hinge question | 
      
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| Subject:  | Ohio Pietenpol Fly-In June 2010 | 
      
      Hello Group, I am starting to do some planning for my Ohio Piet fly-in this
       June.- I am trying to figure out how many plan on flying in, or driving 
      in.- My proposed date is Saturday June 19, the day before father's day.
      - If people want to tent camp thats fine with me, however I do not have r
      oom for big rv's.- I am planning on having people bring a dish to pass (p
      ot luck style) if able.- I will probably just go and buy dogs and burgers
      .- I have a big dinning canopy and will get some tables and chairs so we 
      can get out of the sun, and will get the hanger cleaned up as well.- Don 
      I know you mentioned wanting to camp out, and possibly flying down on frida
      y afternoon, that is- fine with me.- I am also pricing out turd closets
       (port-o-johns), so let me know asap who plans on attending and I will get 
      er done.
      -
      Shad=0A=0A=0A      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Ohio Pietenpol Fly-In June 2010 | 
      
      
      Turd closets...  I'm sold.  
      
      What time do we eat?   [Laughing]
      
      --------
      Mark - working on wings
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=283627#283627
      
      
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| Subject:  | Ohio Pietenpol Fly-In June 2010 | 
      
      
      If the weather is good Shad, count me in. 
      
      Mike C.
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: piano hinge question | 
      
      Thanks, Mike.  
      
      Looking at your photo, I see exactly what I was wondering about.  See 
      how close the screws are to the edge of the hinge?  If it is not a 
      problem, I don't want to create one.  If your hinge is only 3/4" wide, 
      then the nutplates on the back must be pretty close to the top of the 
      spar, too?
      
      I also meant to ask about spacing.  I used 8" spacing which gives 10 
      screws in the 6' long hinge.  This looks to be about what you used too.
      
      Gene
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace 
      Corporation]<mailto:michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov> 
        To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com<mailto:pietenpol-list@matronics.com> 
        Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 10:17 AM
        Subject: Pietenpol-List: piano hinge question
      
      
        So, how far down on the hinge are the screws for most of you guys?  
      And, how low/high do most of you have your hinge mounted?
      
         
      
        Gene=94I mounted the top of the hinge flush with the upper 
      surface of the wing and aileron in order to create a gap seal.    My 
      hinge is about =C2=BE=9D wide per side and I simply countersunk 
      the hinge  for the Phillips head machine screws that screwed into 
      self-locking nutplates on the backside of the wood.   I=99ve never 
      experienced any binding either on the ground or in flight.  
      
         
      
         
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: piano hinge question | 
      
      We used velcro strips and duct tape, it's holding up so far.
      =C2-
      Shad
      Just kidding we copied Mike
      
      
      So, how far down on the hinge are the screws for most of you guys?=C2- An
      d, how low/high do most of you have your hinge mounted?
      
      =C2-
      Gene=94I mounted the top of the hinge flush with the upper surface of
       the wing and aileron in order to create a gap seal.=C2-=C2-=C2- My h
      inge is about =C2=BE=9D wide per side and I simply countersunk the hi
      nge =C2-for the Phillips head machine screws that screwed into self-locki
      ng nutplates on the backside of the wood.=C2- =C2-I=99ve never ex
      perienced any binding either on the ground or in flight.=C2- 
      =C2-
      =C2-
      =0A=0A=0A      
      
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| Subject:  | Ohio Pietenpol Fly-In June 2010 | 
      
      
      Wow, that sounds like fun!
      
      I'll bring the condiments.  :-)
      
      do not archive
      
      -----Original Message-----
      >From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]" <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov>
      >Sent: Jan 27, 2010 9:37 AM
      >To: "pietenpol-list@matronics.com" <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
      >Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Ohio Pietenpol Fly-In June 2010
      >
      >
      >If the weather is good Shad, count me in. 
      >
      >Mike C.
      >
      >
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Ohio Pietenpol Fly-In June 2010 | 
      
      I never know my flying schedule until the middle of the month before, 
      but if I am off I will be there!
      
      Gene
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: shad bell<mailto:aviatorbell@yahoo.com> 
        To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com<mailto:pietenpol-list@matronics.com> 
        Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 10:26 AM
        Subject: Pietenpol-List: Ohio Pietenpol Fly-In June 2010
      
      
              Hello Group, I am starting to do some planning for my Ohio Piet 
      fly-in this June.  I am trying to figure out how many plan on flying in, 
      or driving in.  My proposed date is Saturday June 19, the day before 
      father's day.  If people want to tent camp thats fine with me, however I 
      do not have room for big rv's.  I am planning on having people bring a 
      dish to pass (pot luck style) if able.  I will probably just go and buy 
      dogs and burgers.  I have a big dinning canopy and will get some tables 
      and chairs so we can get out of the sun, and will get the hanger cleaned 
      up as well.  Don I know you mentioned wanting to camp out, and possibly 
      flying down on friday afternoon, that is  fine with me.  I am also 
      pricing out turd closets (port-o-johns), so let me know asap who plans 
      on attending and I will get er done.
      
              Shad 
      
      
      http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List<http://www.matronics.co
      m/Navigator?Pietenpol-List>
      http://www.matronics.com/contribution<http://www.matronics.com/contributi
      on>
      
      
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| Subject:  | piano hinge question | 
      
      
      
      Aileron hinges on 41CC are just like Mike's.
      Pretty safe to say they're not going to fall
      off your airplane, Gene.
      
      Oscar Zuniga
      Air Camper NX41CC
      San Antonio, TX
      mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
      website at http://www.flysquirrel.net 		 	   		  
      
      
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| Subject:  | piano hinge question | 
      
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| Subject:  | what to do with leftover piano hinge ? | 
      
      Ala Tony Bingelis's books just like the aileron hinge idea from what I reca
      ll.
      
      I also used piano hinge to neatly secure my aft-opening aluminum luggage/ca
      rgo wing
      center section covering---photo to follow in next e-mail.
      
      Mike C.
      
      PS-- Bingelis has some GREAT advice on how to build cowlings lightly and ST
      RONG.
      He really has some excellent tips to help you save weight and make removal 
      and
      installation reasonable.   More tabs and fasteners on the cowling are not n
      ecessarily
      better--nor a heavier grade of aluminum.   All of my sheet aluminum is 2024
      T3  .024"
      thick.
      
      
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| Subject:  | CC wing cargo cover hinge idea | 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Shad's velcro idea ! piano hinge question | 
      
      
      No kidding about the gorilla tape... that stuff is strong.  I put a couple of wraps
      around a crate that I shipped recently.  When it was returned, one of the
      panels (sides) was broken loose, but the gorilla tape hung in there and kept
      the crate together.  None of the contents were damaged.  
      
      Tough stuff indeed... I will be replacing my normal stash of Army green "100 mph
      tape" with gorilla tape.
      
      --------
      Mark - working on wings
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=283643#283643
      
      
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| Subject:  | Aileron piano hinge question | 
      
      Gene,
      
      
      I don't think it's a problem.  Mine are pretty far from the hinge line and I
      haven't had any problems with them.  I don't have any very good pictures of
      that area, but here is a picture of the aileron being covered, and you can
      see how far the screw holes for the hinges are from the edge:
      
      
      Jack Phillips
      
      NX899JP
      
      Raleigh, NC
      
      
        _____  
      
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gene Rambo
      Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 9:55 AM
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Aileron piano hinge question
      
      
      For all of you guys who have used piano hinges for your ailerons:
      
      
      I am installing my aileron hinges now.  As many of you have (correctly)
      advised, because the top of the aileron spar is beveled, I made sure that I
      placed the attachment bolt/screw holes far enough down to give clearance on
      the back side of the spar for the nuts/nutplates.  I put them at what I
      thought was the minimum distance down, only 3/8" from the top of the rear
      face of the spar.  I placed the hinge so that the top of the hinge is flush
      with the top of the wing (i.e., the top of the rib capstrips.
      
      
       All of this being said, set up as I have it this ends up with the
      attachment screws a LONG way from the hinge point, something just over 1",
      and very near the edge of the hinge (I opted to buy 3" wide hinges (1.5" per
      side), wider than most on here, because I saw this as a potential problem).
      Does this bother anyone?  I am wondering about the potential for the hinge
      to bend away from the aileron spar because of the distance between the hinge
      line and the line of screws.  Of course, because the spar is angled, the
      screws are pretty much in shear anyway, so it may not be a problem.
      
      
      The solutions I see are (1) move the hinge down lower so that it is below
      the top of the wing.  This could, I suppose, cause a clearance problem
      between the opposing capstrips.  (2) I could use a wider hinge on the
      aileron half, which would give more edge distance between the bolt hole and
      the edge of the hinge.  This would not do anything about keeping it from
      bending, if that is a real problem.
      
      
      So, how far down on the hinge are the screws for most of you guys?  And, how
      low/high do most of you have your hinge mounted?
      
      
      Thanks,
      
      
      Gene
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Aileron piano hinge question | 
      
      
      Jack, is your TE metal?  It looks pretty shiny, and I don't see any gussets at
      the ribs... is that aluminum sheet?  Maybe the light hit it just right to shine?
      
      Great to see all the aileron talk... I am also getting ready to cut and hinge mine.
      The hinges and hardware showed up yesterday.
      
      --------
      Mark - working on wings
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Aileron piano hinge question | 
      
      
      Yes, my trailing edges are aluminum, one of the changes from the plans I
      wish I had not made.
      
      Problem is, I made my ribs with the trailing edge ending with a 1/4" flat,
      instead of coming to a point.  When I installed the metal trailing edges, I
      nailed them to the ribs, but as the fabric shrank it slowly pulled the
      trailing edges forward on the ribs, creating a neat little pucker at each
      rib, on the top and bottom of the wing along the trailing edge.  No way to
      fix it without recovering the wing.  It took about a year after finishing
      the airplane for this to show up.
      
      Build it to the plans - you'll be happier.
      
      Jack Phillips
      NX899JP
      Raleigh, NC
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of K5YAC
      Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 12:07 PM
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Aileron piano hinge question
      
      
      Jack, is your TE metal?  It looks pretty shiny, and I don't see any gussets
      at the ribs... is that aluminum sheet?  Maybe the light hit it just right to
      shine?
      
      Great to see all the aileron talk... I am also getting ready to cut and
      hinge mine.  The hinges and hardware showed up yesterday.
      
      --------
      Mark - working on wings
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=283648#283648
      
      
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| Subject:  | piano hinge question | 
      
      Guys,
      
      What size bolts are you using on the hinges?
      
      Thanks,
      
      Jack
      
      DSM
      
      
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| Subject:  | piano hinge question | 
      
      As I recall, I used # 8 aircraft grade (MS24694-S11, I believe) screws,
      going into self locking nutplates.  As Mike mentioned, the self-locking
      nutplates are so aggressive that you will round out the head of the screw
      before you ever get it tight, so I ran a # 8-32 tap through the nutplates
      before attaching the hinges.
      
      
      Jack Phillips
      
      NX899JP
      
      Raleigh, NC
      
      
        _____  
      
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack
      Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 12:51 PM
      Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: piano hinge question
      
      
      Guys,
      
      What size bolts are you using on the hinges?
      
      Thanks,
      
      Jack
      
      DSM
      
      
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| Subject:  | piano hinge question | 
      
      Dad used hardware store "T"nuts with #8, or#10 screws.- He put a dab of t
      -88 on the backs of the t nuts to hold them secure.- No problems so far, 
      and we have had to take them off-2 or 3 times-now for trailering (count
      ing it's first ride to the airport).-- 
      -
      Shad=0A=0A=0A      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: piano hinge question | 
      
      
      10-32 stainless round head bolts and blind nuts.  
      
      
      --------
      Mark - working on wings
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=283671#283671
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: CC wing cargo cover hinge idea | 
      
      
      "Please be careful when opening the overhead compartment, as the contents may have
      shifted while in flight.  Check to make sure that you remove all of your belongings
      before leaving the airplane.  Thank you for flying Cuy High Airlines
      and we hope that you will choose us next time your travels bring you to Ohio."
      
      --------
      Oscar Zuniga
      San Antonio, TX
      Air Camper NX41CC
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
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| Subject:  | Re: what to do with leftover piano hinge ? | 
      
      
      ...which reminds me.  Walt Evans (where IS Walt these days, anyway?) posted a tip
      on a nifty way to secure removable piano hinge pins.  Very clever.  Photos
      here:
      http://www.flysquirrel.net/piets/cowlhinge.html
      
      --------
      Oscar Zuniga
      San Antonio, TX
      Air Camper NX41CC
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=283688#283688
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Ohio Pietenpol Fly-In June 2010 | 
      
      Shad,
      
      I would like to attend, but it will be a Rans S-6.  My Pietenpol is 
      still under construction.
      
      Tim White
      Springfield
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: shad bell 
        To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com 
        Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 10:26 AM
        Subject: Pietenpol-List: Ohio Pietenpol Fly-In June 2010
      
      
              Hello Group, I am starting to do some planning for my Ohio Piet 
      fly-in this June.  I am trying to figure out how many plan on flying in, 
      or driving in.  My proposed date is Saturday June 19, the day before 
      father's day.  If people want to tent camp thats fine with me, however I 
      do not have room for big rv's.  I am planning on having people bring a 
      dish to pass (pot luck style) if able.  I will probably just go and buy 
      dogs and burgers.  I have a big dinning canopy and will get some tables 
      and chairs so we can get out of the sun, and will get the hanger cleaned 
      up as well.  Don I know you mentioned wanting to camp out, and possibly 
      flying down on friday afternoon, that is  fine with me.  I am also 
      pricing out turd closets (port-o-johns), so let me know asap who plans 
      on attending and I will get er done.
      
              Shad 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Shad's velcro idea ! piano hinge question | 
      
      
      
      Mikee wrote:
      
      >I might pack a roll of that on my next cross country 
      >in addition to the nylon tye-wraps and safety wire
      
      Who let "The Fisherman" back on this list?  None of
      that stuff is STC'd, AN-quality, listed in "Acceptable
      Practices" AC43-13, or anything else!  A guy and his
      airplane could both come to harm! ;o)
      
      Oscar Zuniga
      
      do not archive
      
      Air Camper NX41CC
      San Antonio, TX
      mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
      website at http://www.flysquirrel.net 		 	   		  
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Shad's velcro idea !    piano hinge question | 
      
      Yeah, you can tape everything back together after the bear shreds it :)
      
      Kip Gardner
      
      Do Not Archive
      
      On Jan 27, 2010, at 11:06 AM, Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC  
      Aerospace Corporation] wrote:
      
      > You know this winter I used some Gorilla tape on sealing up a  
      > window a/c cover on at the house
      > and man was I ever impressed with that stuff.     I might pack a  
      > roll of that on my next cross country
      > in addition to the nylon tye-wraps and safety wire I carry !!!
      >
      >
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Ohio Pietenpol Fly-In June 2010 | 
      
      Everyone keep in mind that EAA 82 will also be having their annual  
      "Wings and Wheels" Fly-in in early June (probably the 1st weekend in  
      June) at Barber Airport (2D1), another great grassroots event in NE  
      Ohio.  Lots of vintage aircraft & cars, grass strip, more than a few  
      Piets, and a great deal on breakfast (the important stuff).
      
      Kip Gardner
      
      On Jan 27, 2010, at 5:17 PM, Tim White wrote:
      
      > Shad,
      >
      > I would like to attend, but it will be a Rans S-6.  My Pietenpol is  
      > still under construction.
      >
      > Tim White
      > Springfield
      > ----- Original Message -----
      > From: shad bell
      > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
      > Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 10:26 AM
      > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Ohio Pietenpol Fly-In June 2010
      >
      > Hello Group, I am starting to do some planning for my Ohio Piet fly- 
      > in this June.  I am trying to figure out how many plan on flying  
      > in, or driving in.  My proposed date is Saturday June 19, the day  
      > before father's day.  If people want to tent camp thats fine with  
      > me, however I do not have room for big rv's.  I am planning on  
      > having people bring a dish to pass (pot luck style) if able.  I  
      > will probably just go and buy dogs and burgers.  I have a big  
      > dinning canopy and will get some tables and chairs so we can get  
      > out of the sun, and will get the hanger cleaned up as well.  Don I  
      > know you mentioned wanting to camp out, and possibly flying down on  
      > friday afternoon, that is  fine with me.  I am also pricing out  
      > turd closets (port-o-johns), so let me know asap who plans on  
      > attending and I will get er done.
      >
      > Shad
      >
      >
      > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http:// 
      > www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
      > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
      > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http:// 
      > www.matronics.com/c
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| Subject:  | Ohio Pietenpol Fly-In June 2010 | 
      
      Shad,
      
      I will be driving in for the day with my Dad as well.  I look forward to it.
      
      Thanks,
      
      Jason Holmes
      
      
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of shad bell
      Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 10:27 AM
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Ohio Pietenpol Fly-In June 2010
      
      
      Hello Group, I am starting to do some planning for my Ohio Piet fly-in this
      June.  I am trying to figure out how many plan on flying in, or driving in.
      My proposed date is Saturday June 19, the day before father's day.  If
      people want to tent camp thats fine with me, however I do not have room for
      big rv's.  I am planning on having people bring a dish to pass (pot luck
      style) if able.  I will probably just go and buy dogs and burgers.  I have a
      big dinning canopy and will get some tables and chairs so we can get out of
      the sun, and will get the hanger cleaned up as well.  Don I know you
      mentioned wanting to camp out, and possibly flying down on friday afternoon,
      that is  fine with me.  I am also pricing out turd closets (port-o-johns),
      so let me know asap who plans on attending and I will get er done.
      
      
      Shad
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Ohio Pietenpol Fly-In June 2010 | 
      
      
      Hmm...
      
      A covered dish, huh?  With the wing baggage compartment filled with a tent, air
      mattress, pillows and tie downs and the front pit filled with one of the kids
      with a backpack and sleeping bags on his or her lap, looks like I'll have to
      swing by McDonald's on the way and load my pockets with ketchup packets.  Count
      me in for the condiments!
      
      I'm planning on Friday.
      I'll pitch in for the burgers and turd closets too!
      Don Emch
      NX899DE
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Ohio Pietenpol Fly-In June 2010 | 
      
      Don, Covered dish may mean purty wimmin in hats. Shad, have you priced 
      the turd closets? I wrote a check for about $2k for the Brodhead Biffys 
      in September. I think they should be named Shad's Shat Shacks.
      
      do not archive
      
      John Hofmann
      Vice-President, Information Technology
      The Rees Group, Inc.
      2810 Crossroads Drive, Ste 3800
      Madison, WI 53718
      Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150
      Fax: 608.443.2474
      Email: jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com
      
      On Jan 27, 2010, at 8:24 PM, Don Emch wrote:
      
      > 
      > Hmm...
      > 
      > A covered dish, huh?  With the wing baggage compartment filled with a 
      tent, air mattress, pillows and tie downs and the front pit filled with 
      one of the kids with a backpack and sleeping bags on his or her lap, 
      looks like I'll have to swing by McDonald's on the way and load my 
      pockets with ketchup packets.  Count me in for the condiments!
      > 
      > I'm planning on Friday.
      > I'll pitch in for the burgers and turd closets too!
      > Don Emch
      > NX899DE
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > Read this topic online here:
      > 
      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=283730#283730
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| Subject:  | Re: Ohio Pietenpol Fly-In June 2010 | 
      
      
      Wow! seems to be some real enthusiam for this little get togeather.- Bein
      g that aircraft parking will be limited to about 6-8 aircraft behind my han
      ger, we might have to park the "non piets" down by the t hangers.- Not a 
      problem though, I will let you all know what the parking arrangements are a
      s time get closer.- I will make sure Bill See doesn't mind parking a few 
      aircraft at the t hangers and just walk down to my hanger for the shin-dig.
      - Also my neighbor probably won't mind us using his back yard which will 
      double the parking, I'll just have to voulenteer to take his turns mowing t
      he runway this year.
      -
      What have I got myself into!
      Shad=0A=0A=0A      
      
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      For all you wing builders, I am planing on building my wings (3-piece) 
      completely then take the fittings off to varnish the wood.  Is this ok 
      or is this going to screw something up?
      
      Chris
      Sacramento, CA
      WestCoastPiet.com
      
 
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