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1. 02:53 AM - Re: Wing (Jack)
2. 06:03 AM - low and slow in a Champ with the door off (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation])
3. 06:43 AM - Re: low and slow in a Champ with the door off (Gary Boothe)
4. 07:54 AM - Re: low and slow in a Champ with the door off (airlion)
5. 07:58 AM - Re: Intercom (kevinpurtee)
6. 08:17 AM - Re: low and slow in a Champ with the door off (taildrags)
7. 09:30 AM - Re: Re: low and slow in a Champ with the door off (Isablcorky@aol.com)
8. 09:53 AM - Re: Re: Intercom (Gene & Tammy)
9. 10:09 AM - Re: Re: Intercom (Michael Perez)
10. 11:13 AM - Re: Re: Intercom (Dan Yocum)
11. 11:31 AM - Re: Re: Intercom (Michael Perez)
12. 12:24 PM - spraying varnish on wings/ tailsurfaces (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation])
13. 01:31 PM - Article on Ken Perkins (Jack Phillips)
14. 01:53 PM - Re: spraying varnish on wings/ tailsurfaces (taildrags)
15. 01:54 PM - Re: Article on Ken Perkins (ivan.todorovic)
16. 03:08 PM - Re: Article on Ken Perkins (Jeff Boatright)
17. 03:27 PM - Re: Re: Article on Ken Perkins (Jeff Boatright)
18. 03:31 PM - Article on Ken Perkins and Kevin Purtee! (Jim Markle)
19. 08:04 PM - Re: Re: spraying varnish on wings/ tailsurfaces (Rick Holland)
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Thank you Chris for your site! One day when I get a minute I plan to
get
working on mine with updates.
Jack
DSM
You guys crack me up with some of your responses.
I'm with Mike P. on this, as I plan on building and fit everything
before it
gets varnished, sealed, coated and what not. I was just worried that
removing the wires and fittings would mess up the trueness of the wing
but
after looking at Jack Texters pictures I think I will be fine. Thanks
for
the pictures on your website Jack.
Chris
Sacramento, CA
WestCoastPiet.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Michael <mailto:speedbrake@sbcglobal.net> Perez
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 11:39 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Wing
My plan, when I get there, is to assemble the complete plane in my
garage
and make sure it all fits together and that nothing has been missed.
Then
disassemble to varnish everything, laid out, in the garage. I don't like
the
fact of having nicely varnished pieces laying around, getting moved
around,
bumped, dinged, scraped, bolted/unbolted etc. Or find out a piece of
plywood
spacer needs to be epoxied in and now that varnish needs to be
sanded...or
some other hick-up.
I agree that smaller items such as the various tail pieces can be done
sooner rather then later. we'll see...not there yet.
--- On Thu, 1/28/10, Jack Phillips <pietflyr@bellsouth.net> wrote:
From: Jack Phillips <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Wing
Man, that=92s a LOT of varnishing to be done at one time. Given that
varnish
takes a long time (several days) to dry between coats, you might do
better
to be varnishing one portion while working on building another ' for
example, put a coat of varnish on your spars while working on the
fuselage.
You will want at least two coats of varnish on everything. Whether
using
epoxy varnish (my personal recommendation), a 2 part polyurethane
varnish
(next best) or a one can Home Depot variety of polyurethane spar varnish
(check to make sure it won=92t be lifted by the covering materials), you
will
get best protection by thinning the first coat about 50/50 with reducer
so
it will soak into the wood more easily. Then put a full strength coat
over
that. Make sure you get into all the little nooks and crannies (what
exactly is the difference between a nook and a cranny?), particularly in
the
ribs and tail section.
Just my 2=A2 worth.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Raleigh, NC
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com ] On Behalf Of Michael Perez
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 8:18 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wing
I plan to build the complete plane, minus covering, all fitted together
cables and all. THEN take apart and varnish/stain just prior to
covering.
--- On Thu, 1/28/10, gcardinal <gcardinal@comcast.net> wrote:
From: gcardinal <gcardinal@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wing
Varnishing under metal fittings is the proper procedure. Don't forget to
varnish inside all bolt holes.
Greg Cardinal
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Subject: Pietenpol-List: Wing
For all you wing builders, I am planing on building my wings (3-piece)
completely then take the fittings off to varnish the wood. Is this ok
or is
this going to screw something up?
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Sacramento , CA
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| Subject: | low and slow in a Champ with the door off |
Of possible interest. This gent's brother is building a Pietenpol in Ohi
o.
Most Pietenpol builders are wanna be crop dusters it seems to me. I know
I fit that
category. (watch those high tension power lines fellas and cell towers)
Mike C.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BziHdAVNcK8
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| Subject: | low and slow in a Champ with the door off |
I like the weeds blowing from his axle! Guess that's better than weeds on
the cabanes...
Gary Boothe
Cool, CA
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
16 ribs done
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Cuy, Michael
D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 6:03 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: low and slow in a Champ with the door off
Of possible interest. This gent's brother is building a Pietenpol in
Ohio.
Most Pietenpol builders are wanna be crop dusters it seems to me. I know
I fit that
category. (watch those high tension power lines fellas and cell towers)
Mike C.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BziHdAVNcK8
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| Subject: | Re: low and slow in a Champ with the door off |
I used to do that with my AD-6 in the everglades . Cheers, Gardiner =0A=0A
=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Gary Boothe <gboothe5@com
cast.net>=0ATo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Fri, January 29, 2010
9:43:15 AM=0ASubject: RE: Pietenpol-List: low and slow in a Champ with the
door off=0A=0A =0AI like the weeds blowing from his axle! Guess that
=99s=0Abetter than weeds on the cabanes..=0A =0AGary Boothe=0ACool
, CA=0APietenpol=0AWW Corvair Conversion=0ATail done, Fuselage on gear=0A16
ribs done=0A =0AFrom:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com=0A[mailto:o
wner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Cuy,=0AMichael D. (G
RC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]=0ASent: Friday, January 29, 2010 6:03
AM=0ATo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com=0ASubject: Pietenpol-List: low and sl
ow in a Champ with the door off=0A =0AOf=0Apossible interest. This gent
=99s brother is building a=0APietenpol in Ohio. =0A =0AMost=0APietenp
ol builders are wanna be crop dusters it seems to me. =0AI know I fit tha
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Hi Perry - I bought a complete package from these people:
http://www.miracleantenna.com/
includes headsets, intercom, radio, external antenna (that reaches out more than
50 miles on a handheld). It was expensive, but when I priced all the stuff
individually the package was cheaper. Works great but there's no getting around
open cockpit noise.
Kevin Purtee
NX899KP
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=283920#283920
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| Subject: | Re: low and slow in a Champ with the door off |
Yup... I've done my share of simulated aerial application in 41CC. We have a very
nice array of farms in the area around 8T8 where I'm based, and I have often
applied swaths of virtual bugjuice, invisible fertilizer, and transparent herbicides
from the imaginary booms and hopper in my Piet. If I would just go
ahead and complete the installation of my smoke system on the airplane, I could
do some REAL insect control with it!
--------
Oscar Zuniga
San Antonio, TX
Air Camper NX41CC
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=283923#283923
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| Subject: | Re: low and slow in a Champ with the door off |
Don't forget the middle east schwine drops with 41CC. That blood was
difficult to wash off.
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I tried the 35 mm film canister someone else on this list
suggested....and....NO open cockpit noise, using a 40 year old head set &
mic (cost me $20 12 years ago) Received reports from as close as 5 miles
and as far away as 45 miles by pilots that could not understand me before,
due to open cockpit noise. Try it, you'll like it.
Gene in Beautiful, snowy Tennessee.
N502R
----- Original Message -----
From: "kevinpurtee" <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 9:58 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Intercom
> <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
>
> Hi Perry - I bought a complete package from these people:
>
> http://www.miracleantenna.com/
>
> includes headsets, intercom, radio, external antenna (that reaches out
> more than 50 miles on a handheld). It was expensive, but when I priced
> all the stuff individually the package was cheaper. Works great but
> there's no getting around open cockpit noise.
>
> Kevin Purtee
> NX899KP
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=283920#283920
>
>
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Well, what is it you do with the canister? Sounds like a good idea.
--- On Fri, 1/29/10, Gene & Tammy <zharvey@bentoncountycable.net> wrote:
From: Gene & Tammy <zharvey@bentoncountycable.net>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Intercom
able.net>
I tried the 35 mm film canister someone else on this list
suggested....and....NO open cockpit noise, using a 40 year old head set &
mic (cost me $20 12 years ago)- Received reports from as close as 5 miles
and as far away as 45 miles by pilots that could not understand me before,
due to open cockpit noise.- Try it, you'll like it.
Gene- in Beautiful, snowy Tennessee.
N502R
----- Original Message -----
From: "kevinpurtee" <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 9:58 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Intercom
> <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
>
> Hi Perry - I bought a complete package from these people:
>
> http://www.miracleantenna.com/
>
> includes headsets, intercom, radio, external antenna (that reaches out
> more than 50 miles on a handheld).- It was expensive, but when I priced
> all the stuff individually the package was cheaper.- Works great but
> there's no getting around open cockpit noise.
>
> Kevin Purtee
> NX899KP
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=283920#283920
>
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The instructions are somewhere in the archives, but the short of it is this:
1) cut an 'X' in the lid, big enough to let the mic pass through
2) push the lid over the mic
3) wrap the mic with gauze or soft, open cell foam
4) drill a small hole, 1/8-1/4" in the side of the cannister
5) place cannister over mic and snap on the lid
6) position the hole in front of your mouth and talk.
On 01/29/2010 12:07 PM, Michael Perez wrote:
> Well, what is it you do with the canister? Sounds like a good idea.
>
> --- On *Fri, 1/29/10, Gene & Tammy /<zharvey@bentoncountycable.net>/* wrote:
>
>
> From: Gene & Tammy <zharvey@bentoncountycable.net>
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Intercom
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Date: Friday, January 29, 2010, 12:53 PM
>
> <zharvey@bentoncountycable.net
> <http://us.mc833.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=zharvey@bentoncountycable.net>>
>
> I tried the 35 mm film canister someone else on this list
> suggested....and....NO open cockpit noise, using a 40 year old head
> set &
> mic (cost me $20 12 years ago) Received reports from as close as 5
> miles
> and as far away as 45 miles by pilots that could not understand me
> before,
> due to open cockpit noise. Try it, you'll like it.
> Gene in Beautiful, snowy Tennessee.
> N502R
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "kevinpurtee" <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil
> <http://us.mc833.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>>
> To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> <http://us.mc833.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=pietenpol-list@matronics.com>>
> Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 9:58 AM
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Intercom
>
>
> > <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil
> <http://us.mc833.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>>
> >
> > Hi Perry - I bought a complete package from these people:
> >
> > http://www.miracleantenna.com/
> >
> > includes headsets, intercom, radio, external antenna (that
> reaches out
> > more than 50 miles on a handheld). It was expensive, but when I
> priced
> > all the stuff individually the package was cheaper. Works great but
> > there's no getting around open cockpit noise.
> >
> > Kevin Purtee
> > NX899KP
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Read this topic online here:
> >
> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=283920#283920
> >
> >
> >
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Copy. Thanks.
--- On Fri, 1/29/10, Dan Yocum <yocum@fnal.gov> wrote:
From: Dan Yocum <yocum@fnal.gov>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Intercom
The instructions are somewhere in the archives, but the short of it is this
:
1) cut an 'X' in the lid, big enough to let the mic pass through
2) push the lid over the mic
3) wrap the mic with gauze or soft, open cell foam
4) drill a small hole, 1/8-1/4" in the side of the cannister
5) place cannister over mic and snap on the lid
6) position the hole in front of your mouth and talk.
On 01/29/2010 12:07 PM, Michael Perez wrote:
> Well, what is it you do with the canister? Sounds like a good idea.
>
> --- On *Fri, 1/29/10, Gene & Tammy /<zharvey@bentoncountycable.net>/* wro
te:
>
>
>- ---From: Gene & Tammy <zharvey@bentoncountycable.net>
>- ---Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Intercom
>- ---To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>- ---Date: Friday, January 29, 2010, 12:53 PM
>
>- ---<zharvey@bentoncountycable.net
>- ---<http://us.mc833.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=zharvey@bento
ncountycable.net>>
>
>- ---I tried the 35 mm film canister someone else on this list
>- ---suggested....and....NO open cockpit noise, using a 40 year ol
d head
>- ---set &
>- ---mic (cost me $20 12 years ago) Received reports from as close
as 5
>- ---miles
>- ---and as far away as 45 miles by pilots that could not understa
nd me
>- ---before,
>- ---due to open cockpit noise. Try it, you'll like it.
>- ---Gene in Beautiful, snowy Tennessee.
>- ---N502R
>
>
>- -------- Original Message -----
>- ---From: "kevinpurtee" <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil
>- ---<http://us.mc833.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=kevin.purtee@
us.army.mil>>
>- ---To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>- ---<http://us.mc833.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=pietenpol-lis
t@matronics.com>>
>- ---Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 9:58 AM
>- ---Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Intercom
>
>
>- - - > <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil
>- ---<http://us.mc833.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=kevin.purtee@
us.army.mil>>
>- - - >
>- - - > Hi Perry - I bought a complete package from these people:
>- - - >
>- - - > http://www.miracleantenna.com/
>- - - >
>- - - > includes headsets, intercom, radio, external antenna (that
>- ---reaches out
>- - - > more than 50 miles on a handheld). It was expensive, but whe
n I
>- ---priced
>- - - > all the stuff individually the package was cheaper. Works gr
eat but
>- - - > there's no getting around open cockpit noise.
>- - - >
>- - - > Kevin Purtee
>- - - > NX899KP
>- - - >
>- - - >
>- - - >
>- - - >
>- - - > Read this topic online here:
>- - - >
>- - - > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=283920#283920
>- - - >
>- - - >
>- - - >
>- - - >
>- - - >
>- - - >
>- - - >
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| Subject: | spraying varnish on wings/ tailsurfaces |
I sprayed my wings and tailsurfaces over a gravel driveway on two simple sawhorses
using Minwax Fast Dry Polyurethane spar varnish (thinned even more with more mineral
spirits than the fast dry already has in it) thru a Better Homes and Garden type
Hudson
or bug sprayer pump up unit.
To coat the wing I basically adjusted the spray nozzle to get an appropriate fan,
set out
some iced beer in a cooler in the garage then once one side was dripping nicely
I'd flip
the wing over so the drips would run down into other bare areas and hit that side
with
the sprayer. I'd keep flipping the wing and dab areas of dripping or dry areas
with a 2"
brush and then the next day repeat the process. I think I have 2 or 3 coats on
the wing
of the thinned fast-dry stuff. For all other parts of the airplane I used the
normal
Minwax spar urethane (not thinned at the factory or by me) with a brush until I
was happy
with the appearance--especially inside the cockpit areas where everyone sees.
I allowed many weeks and in some cases months to pass before applying fabric cement
(MEK
in my case) but was advised by the old IA's and A&P's at the local airport to spray
an
automotive DuPont 222S sanding sealer over any area that would see solvent. Back
to the
Better Homes and Garden bug sprayer with a gallon or two of that stuff that I found
at a
local NAPA store. The stuff goes on like water, dries in less than 5 minutes.
Two
coats of that insure that the MEK won't attack your varnish. Some builders paint
a 2-part
epoxy on any varnished surfaces where they anticipate solvents to be used in fabric
work
so that the solvent won't soften the varnish. I thought that was too heavy and
if this
method of sanding sealer worked for guys in their 70's and 80's who had been restoring
airplanes for 60 years then it was good enough for me.
Caution-- the sanding sealer won't guarantee that your solvent won't attack your
varnish.
The best policy for the sanding sealer to work is to allow your varnish to cure
for many
weeks...at least 3 or 4 before applying the sanding sealer. Any sooner and you'd
better
just use the 2-part epoxy where you are going to be applying solvent to do fabric
attaching
or finishing tape applications.
Mike C.
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>From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-
>list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of brian.e.jardine@L-3Com.com
>Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 11:16 AM
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Wing
>
>
>I was thinking more on the lines of spraying varnish out of the gallon
>can through my industrial paint sprayer, I would think the varnish would
>be too thick to spray through my automotive paint sprayer.
>
>Brian
>SLC-UT
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-
>list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Boatright
>Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 9:07 AM
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Wing
>
>
>I'm interested in this, too. Many types of
>"varnish" are available in spray cans. Some are
>true oil-based varnishes (Cabot sells this).
>Others are urethane (just about all the major
>players like Krylon sell their version of this),
>and I guess there could be other types.
>
>One big concern I have about this use is whether
>the solvents and propellants are compatible with
>whatever glue you are using. Most of us use
>epoxy, but many still use rescorcinol, and still
>others are exploring the newer one-part glues. I
>would not assume that the solvent mix in a spray
>can is the same as the solvent in brush can, even
>for the same varnish by the same maker.
>
>Of course, this may just be paranoia.
>
>Does anyone have experience with the various spray varnishes?
>
>
>>
>>Group,
>>On the topic of varnish...can it be sprayed on
>>rather than brushed on? It seems it would be
>>much faster and easier, unless the varnish is
>>too thick to spray.
>>
>>Brian
>>SLC-UT
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
>>[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]
>>On Behalf Of Jim Markle
>>Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 8:15 AM
>>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>>Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Wing
>>
><jim_markle@mindspring.com>
>>
>>Some have just put one coat of varnish on to
>>save on weight. Or grind off any varnish OR
>>epoxy drips, runs or squeeze out...to save
>>weight.
>>
>>Dipping would probably be overkill in terms of
>>quantity and I wonder how you would keep all
>>those, ok I'll say it: nooks and crannys from
>>retaining little puddles?
>>
>>Would probably work but I'll bet the time spent
>>hand brushing would save some weight...and on
>>the Pietenpol it ALL adds up!
>>
>>jm
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: greg menoche <gnwac@earthlink.net>
>>>Sent: Jan 28, 2010 9:05 AM
>>>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>>>Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Wing
>>>
><gnwac@earthlink.net>
>>>
>>>To save time, could you just dip the rib in a
>>>pan of varnish instead of Qtip and brush
>>>method? Greg Menoche
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Jack Phillips
>>>Sent: Jan 28, 2010 9:11 AM
>>>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>>>Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Wing
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Man, that's a LOT of varnishing to be done at
>>>one time. Given that varnish takes a long time
>>>(several days) to dry between coats, you might
>>>do better to be varnishing one portion while
>>>working on building another - for example, put
>>>a coat of varnish on your spars while working
>>>on the fuselage.
>>>
>>>You will want at least two coats of varnish on
>>>everything. Whether using epoxy varnish (my
>>>personal recommendation), a 2 part polyurethane
>>>varnish (next best) or a one can Home Depot
>>>variety of polyurethane spar varnish (check to
>>>make sure it won't be lifted by the covering
>>>materials), you will get best protection by
>>>thinning the first coat about 50/50 with
>>>reducer so it will soak into the wood more
>>>easily. Then put a full strength coat over
>>>that. Make sure you get into all the little
>>>nooks and crannies (what exactly is the
>>>difference between a nook and a cranny?),
>
>>>particularly in the ribs and tail section.
>>>
>>>Just my 2 worth.
>>>
>>>Jack Phillips
>>>NX899JP
>>>Raleigh, NC
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
>>>[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]
>>>On Behalf Of Michael Perez
>>>Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 8:18 AM
>>>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>>>Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wing
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>I plan to build the complete plane, minus
>>>covering, all fitted together cables and all.
>>>THEN take apart and varnish/stain just prior to
>>>covering.
>>>
>>>--- On Thu, 1/28/10, gcardinal <gcardinal@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>From: gcardinal <gcardinal@comcast.net>
>>>Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wing
>>>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>>>Date: Thursday, January 28, 2010, 7:47 AM
>>>
>>>
>>>Varnishing under metal fittings is the proper
>>>procedure. Don't forget to varnish inside all
>>>bolt holes.
>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>Greg Cardinal
>>>
>>>
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>>From: catdesigns@att.net
>>>
>>>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>>>
>>>Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 1:52 AM
>>>
>>>Subject: Pietenpol-List: Wing
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>For all you wing builders, I am planing on
>>>building my wings (3-piece) completely then
>>>take the fittings off to varnish the wood. Is
>>>this ok or is this going to screw something up?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Chris
>>>Sacramento, CA
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| Subject: | Article on Ken Perkins |
I just read the article in the new Sport Aviation about Ken Perkin's and his
"Time Machine". Good article, and great publicity for Pietenpols.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Raleigh, NC
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| Subject: | Re: spraying varnish on wings/ tailsurfaces |
Yet another point in favor of the Stewart Systems water-based covering system,
I guess. Although I have really grown to love and appreciate the smell of the
Poly-Fiber materials, there are many positives to eliminating the solvent-based
covering systems. I assume that the Stewart System materials wouldn't do a
thing to varnish of any type.
--------
Oscar Zuniga
San Antonio, TX
Air Camper NX41CC
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| Subject: | Re: Article on Ken Perkins |
They've just published three nice links about Sky Scout:
http://www.eaa.org/sportaviationmag/2010/1958_02_14.pdf
http://www.eaa.org/sportaviationmag/2010/1958_03_13.pdf
http://www.eaa.org/sportaviationmag/2010/1958_04_11.pdf
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| Subject: | Re: Article on Ken Perkins |
That's a nice article.
http://www.sportaviationonline.org/sportaviation/201002#pg44
>I just read the article in the new Sport Aviation about Ken Perkin's
>and his "Time Machine". Good article, and great publicity for
>Pietenpols.
>
>Jack Phillips
>
>NX899JP
>
>Raleigh, NC
>
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| Subject: | Re: Article on Ken Perkins |
I did not know that Ken's prop is 77x44. Zounds!
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Emory University School of Medicine
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| Subject: | Article on Ken Perkins and Kevin Purtee! |
There's also a nice picture of Kevin Purtee's Air Camper in that issue. Neat!
-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Boatright
Sent: Jan 29, 2010 5:07 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Article on Ken Perkins
That's a nice article.
http://www.sportaviationonline.org/sportaviation/201002#pg44
I just read the article
in the new Sport Aviation about Ken Perkin's and his "Time
Machine". Good article, and great publicity for
Pietenpols.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Raleigh, NC
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| Subject: | Re: spraying varnish on wings/ tailsurfaces |
Yup, no stinkin MEK, water based. I saved more brain cells just covering my
tail feathers than I fried in my freshman year at CU in 68.
Rick
On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 4:52 PM, taildrags <taildrags@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Yet another point in favor of the Stewart Systems water-based covering
> system, I guess. Although I have really grown to love and appreciate the
> smell of the Poly-Fiber materials, there are many positives to eliminating
> the solvent-based covering systems. I assume that the Stewart System
> materials wouldn't do a thing to varnish of any type.
>
> --------
> Oscar Zuniga
> San Antonio, TX
> Air Camper NX41CC
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=283968#283968
>
>
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Rick Holland
Castle Rock, Colorado
"Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"
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