---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 01/29/10: 19 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:53 AM - Re: Wing (Jack) 2. 06:03 AM - low and slow in a Champ with the door off (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]) 3. 06:43 AM - Re: low and slow in a Champ with the door off (Gary Boothe) 4. 07:54 AM - Re: low and slow in a Champ with the door off (airlion) 5. 07:58 AM - Re: Intercom (kevinpurtee) 6. 08:17 AM - Re: low and slow in a Champ with the door off (taildrags) 7. 09:30 AM - Re: Re: low and slow in a Champ with the door off (Isablcorky@aol.com) 8. 09:53 AM - Re: Re: Intercom (Gene & Tammy) 9. 10:09 AM - Re: Re: Intercom (Michael Perez) 10. 11:13 AM - Re: Re: Intercom (Dan Yocum) 11. 11:31 AM - Re: Re: Intercom (Michael Perez) 12. 12:24 PM - spraying varnish on wings/ tailsurfaces (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]) 13. 01:31 PM - Article on Ken Perkins (Jack Phillips) 14. 01:53 PM - Re: spraying varnish on wings/ tailsurfaces (taildrags) 15. 01:54 PM - Re: Article on Ken Perkins (ivan.todorovic) 16. 03:08 PM - Re: Article on Ken Perkins (Jeff Boatright) 17. 03:27 PM - Re: Re: Article on Ken Perkins (Jeff Boatright) 18. 03:31 PM - Article on Ken Perkins and Kevin Purtee! (Jim Markle) 19. 08:04 PM - Re: Re: spraying varnish on wings/ tailsurfaces (Rick Holland) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:53:21 AM PST US From: "Jack" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Wing Thank you Chris for your site! One day when I get a minute I plan to get working on mine with updates. Jack DSM You guys crack me up with some of your responses. I'm with Mike P. on this, as I plan on building and fit everything before it gets varnished, sealed, coated and what not. I was just worried that removing the wires and fittings would mess up the trueness of the wing but after looking at Jack Texters pictures I think I will be fine. Thanks for the pictures on your website Jack. Chris Sacramento, CA WestCoastPiet.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Perez Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 11:39 AM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Wing My plan, when I get there, is to assemble the complete plane in my garage and make sure it all fits together and that nothing has been missed. Then disassemble to varnish everything, laid out, in the garage. I don't like the fact of having nicely varnished pieces laying around, getting moved around, bumped, dinged, scraped, bolted/unbolted etc. Or find out a piece of plywood spacer needs to be epoxied in and now that varnish needs to be sanded...or some other hick-up. I agree that smaller items such as the various tail pieces can be done sooner rather then later. we'll see...not there yet. --- On Thu, 1/28/10, Jack Phillips wrote: From: Jack Phillips Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Wing Man, that=92s a LOT of varnishing to be done at one time. Given that varnish takes a long time (several days) to dry between coats, you might do better to be varnishing one portion while working on building another ' for example, put a coat of varnish on your spars while working on the fuselage. You will want at least two coats of varnish on everything. Whether using epoxy varnish (my personal recommendation), a 2 part polyurethane varnish (next best) or a one can Home Depot variety of polyurethane spar varnish (check to make sure it won=92t be lifted by the covering materials), you will get best protection by thinning the first coat about 50/50 with reducer so it will soak into the wood more easily. Then put a full strength coat over that. Make sure you get into all the little nooks and crannies (what exactly is the difference between a nook and a cranny?), particularly in the ribs and tail section. Just my 2=A2 worth. Jack Phillips NX899JP Raleigh, NC _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com ] On Behalf Of Michael Perez Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 8:18 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wing I plan to build the complete plane, minus covering, all fitted together cables and all. THEN take apart and varnish/stain just prior to covering. --- On Thu, 1/28/10, gcardinal wrote: From: gcardinal Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wing Varnishing under metal fittings is the proper procedure. Don't forget to varnish inside all bolt holes. Greg Cardinal ----- Original Message ----- From: catdesigns@att.net To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 1:52 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Wing For all you wing builders, I am planing on building my wings (3-piece) completely then take the fittings off to varnish the wood. Is this ok or is this going to screw something up? Chris Sacramento , CA WestCoastPiet.com href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.mat ronic s.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c " target=_blank rel=nofollow>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List =nofollow>http://forums.matronics.com blank rel=nofollow>http://www.matronics.com/contribution http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution " target=_blank rel=nofollow>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List =nofollow>http://forums.matronics.com blank rel=nofollow>http://www.matronics.com/contribution href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.mat ronic s.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:03:25 AM PST US From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]" Subject: Pietenpol-List: low and slow in a Champ with the door off Of possible interest. This gent's brother is building a Pietenpol in Ohi o. Most Pietenpol builders are wanna be crop dusters it seems to me. I know I fit that category. (watch those high tension power lines fellas and cell towers) Mike C. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BziHdAVNcK8 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:43:41 AM PST US From: "Gary Boothe" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: low and slow in a Champ with the door off I like the weeds blowing from his axle! Guess that's better than weeds on the cabanes... Gary Boothe Cool, CA Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion Tail done, Fuselage on gear 16 ribs done From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation] Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 6:03 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: low and slow in a Champ with the door off Of possible interest. This gent's brother is building a Pietenpol in Ohio. Most Pietenpol builders are wanna be crop dusters it seems to me. I know I fit that category. (watch those high tension power lines fellas and cell towers) Mike C. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BziHdAVNcK8 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:54:54 AM PST US From: airlion Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: low and slow in a Champ with the door off I used to do that with my AD-6 in the everglades . Cheers, Gardiner =0A=0A =0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Gary Boothe =0ATo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Fri, January 29, 2010 9:43:15 AM=0ASubject: RE: Pietenpol-List: low and slow in a Champ with the door off=0A=0A =0AI like the weeds blowing from his axle! Guess that =99s=0Abetter than weeds on the cabanes..=0A =0AGary Boothe=0ACool , CA=0APietenpol=0AWW Corvair Conversion=0ATail done, Fuselage on gear=0A16 ribs done=0A =0AFrom:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com=0A[mailto:o wner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Cuy,=0AMichael D. (G RC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]=0ASent: Friday, January 29, 2010 6:03 AM=0ATo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com=0ASubject: Pietenpol-List: low and sl ow in a Champ with the door off=0A =0AOf=0Apossible interest. This gent =99s brother is building a=0APietenpol in Ohio. =0A =0AMost=0APietenp ol builders are wanna be crop dusters it seems to me. =0AI know I fit tha t=0Acategory. =0A(watch those high tension power lines fellas and cell t owers) =0A =0AMike=0AC.=0A =0A =0Ahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BziHdAVN cK8=0A =0A =0A =0A =0A =0Ahttp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-Li st=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com=0Ahttp://www.matronics.com/contribution=0A ==================== ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:58:37 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Intercom From: "kevinpurtee" Hi Perry - I bought a complete package from these people: http://www.miracleantenna.com/ includes headsets, intercom, radio, external antenna (that reaches out more than 50 miles on a handheld). It was expensive, but when I priced all the stuff individually the package was cheaper. Works great but there's no getting around open cockpit noise. Kevin Purtee NX899KP Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=283920#283920 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:17:42 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: low and slow in a Champ with the door off From: "taildrags" Yup... I've done my share of simulated aerial application in 41CC. We have a very nice array of farms in the area around 8T8 where I'm based, and I have often applied swaths of virtual bugjuice, invisible fertilizer, and transparent herbicides from the imaginary booms and hopper in my Piet. If I would just go ahead and complete the installation of my smoke system on the airplane, I could do some REAL insect control with it! -------- Oscar Zuniga San Antonio, TX Air Camper NX41CC Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=283923#283923 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 09:30:57 AM PST US From: Isablcorky@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: low and slow in a Champ with the door off Don't forget the middle east schwine drops with 41CC. That blood was difficult to wash off. ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 09:53:55 AM PST US From: "Gene & Tammy" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Intercom I tried the 35 mm film canister someone else on this list suggested....and....NO open cockpit noise, using a 40 year old head set & mic (cost me $20 12 years ago) Received reports from as close as 5 miles and as far away as 45 miles by pilots that could not understand me before, due to open cockpit noise. Try it, you'll like it. Gene in Beautiful, snowy Tennessee. N502R ----- Original Message ----- From: "kevinpurtee" Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 9:58 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Intercom > > > Hi Perry - I bought a complete package from these people: > > http://www.miracleantenna.com/ > > includes headsets, intercom, radio, external antenna (that reaches out > more than 50 miles on a handheld). It was expensive, but when I priced > all the stuff individually the package was cheaper. Works great but > there's no getting around open cockpit noise. > > Kevin Purtee > NX899KP > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=283920#283920 > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 09:08:00 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 10:09:38 AM PST US From: Michael Perez Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Intercom Well, what is it you do with the canister? Sounds like a good idea. --- On Fri, 1/29/10, Gene & Tammy wrote: From: Gene & Tammy Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Intercom able.net> I tried the 35 mm film canister someone else on this list suggested....and....NO open cockpit noise, using a 40 year old head set & mic (cost me $20 12 years ago)- Received reports from as close as 5 miles and as far away as 45 miles by pilots that could not understand me before, due to open cockpit noise.- Try it, you'll like it. Gene- in Beautiful, snowy Tennessee. N502R ----- Original Message ----- From: "kevinpurtee" Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 9:58 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Intercom > > > Hi Perry - I bought a complete package from these people: > > http://www.miracleantenna.com/ > > includes headsets, intercom, radio, external antenna (that reaches out > more than 50 miles on a handheld).- It was expensive, but when I priced > all the stuff individually the package was cheaper.- Works great but > there's no getting around open cockpit noise. > > Kevin Purtee > NX899KP > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=283920#283920 > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 09:08:00 le, List Admin. ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 11:13:53 AM PST US From: Dan Yocum Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Intercom The instructions are somewhere in the archives, but the short of it is this: 1) cut an 'X' in the lid, big enough to let the mic pass through 2) push the lid over the mic 3) wrap the mic with gauze or soft, open cell foam 4) drill a small hole, 1/8-1/4" in the side of the cannister 5) place cannister over mic and snap on the lid 6) position the hole in front of your mouth and talk. On 01/29/2010 12:07 PM, Michael Perez wrote: > Well, what is it you do with the canister? Sounds like a good idea. > > --- On *Fri, 1/29/10, Gene & Tammy //* wrote: > > > From: Gene & Tammy > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Intercom > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Date: Friday, January 29, 2010, 12:53 PM > > > > > I tried the 35 mm film canister someone else on this list > suggested....and....NO open cockpit noise, using a 40 year old head > set & > mic (cost me $20 12 years ago) Received reports from as close as 5 > miles > and as far away as 45 miles by pilots that could not understand me > before, > due to open cockpit noise. Try it, you'll like it. > Gene in Beautiful, snowy Tennessee. > N502R > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "kevinpurtee" > > To: > > Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 9:58 AM > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Intercom > > > > > > > > > Hi Perry - I bought a complete package from these people: > > > > http://www.miracleantenna.com/ > > > > includes headsets, intercom, radio, external antenna (that > reaches out > > more than 50 miles on a handheld). It was expensive, but when I > priced > > all the stuff individually the package was cheaper. Works great but > > there's no getting around open cockpit noise. > > > > Kevin Purtee > > NX899KP > > > > > > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=283920#283920 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > 09:08:0p; --> http://forums.matronbsp; - List Contribution Web Site - > > > > > * > > > * -- Dan Yocum Fermilab 630.840.6509 yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things." ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 11:31:15 AM PST US From: Michael Perez Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Intercom Copy. Thanks. --- On Fri, 1/29/10, Dan Yocum wrote: From: Dan Yocum Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Intercom The instructions are somewhere in the archives, but the short of it is this : 1) cut an 'X' in the lid, big enough to let the mic pass through 2) push the lid over the mic 3) wrap the mic with gauze or soft, open cell foam 4) drill a small hole, 1/8-1/4" in the side of the cannister 5) place cannister over mic and snap on the lid 6) position the hole in front of your mouth and talk. On 01/29/2010 12:07 PM, Michael Perez wrote: > Well, what is it you do with the canister? Sounds like a good idea. > > --- On *Fri, 1/29/10, Gene & Tammy //* wro te: > > >- ---From: Gene & Tammy >- ---Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Intercom >- ---To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >- ---Date: Friday, January 29, 2010, 12:53 PM > >- ---- ---> > >- ---I tried the 35 mm film canister someone else on this list >- ---suggested....and....NO open cockpit noise, using a 40 year ol d head >- ---set & >- ---mic (cost me $20 12 years ago) Received reports from as close as 5 >- ---miles >- ---and as far away as 45 miles by pilots that could not understa nd me >- ---before, >- ---due to open cockpit noise. Try it, you'll like it. >- ---Gene in Beautiful, snowy Tennessee. >- ---N502R > > >- -------- Original Message ----- >- ---From: "kevinpurtee" - ---> >- ---To: - ---> >- ---Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 9:58 AM >- ---Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Intercom > > >- - - > - ---> >- - - > >- - - > Hi Perry - I bought a complete package from these people: >- - - > >- - - > http://www.miracleantenna.com/ >- - - > >- - - > includes headsets, intercom, radio, external antenna (that >- ---reaches out >- - - > more than 50 miles on a handheld). It was expensive, but whe n I >- ---priced >- - - > all the stuff individually the package was cheaper. Works gr eat but >- - - > there's no getting around open cockpit noise. >- - - > >- - - > Kevin Purtee >- - - > NX899KP >- - - > >- - - > >- - - > >- - - > >- - - > Read this topic online here: >- - - > >- - - > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=283920#283920 >- - - > >- - - > >- - - > >- - - > >- - - > >- - - > >- - - > >- - - > >- - - > >- - - > > > >- ---------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------- > > >- ---Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >- ---09:08:0p; --> http://forums.matronbsp; - List Contribution We b Site - > > >- --- > > * > > > * -- Dan Yocum Fermilab- 630.840.6509 yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things." le, List Admin. ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 12:24:12 PM PST US From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]" Subject: Pietenpol-List: spraying varnish on wings/ tailsurfaces I sprayed my wings and tailsurfaces over a gravel driveway on two simple sawhorses using Minwax Fast Dry Polyurethane spar varnish (thinned even more with more mineral spirits than the fast dry already has in it) thru a Better Homes and Garden type Hudson or bug sprayer pump up unit. To coat the wing I basically adjusted the spray nozzle to get an appropriate fan, set out some iced beer in a cooler in the garage then once one side was dripping nicely I'd flip the wing over so the drips would run down into other bare areas and hit that side with the sprayer. I'd keep flipping the wing and dab areas of dripping or dry areas with a 2" brush and then the next day repeat the process. I think I have 2 or 3 coats on the wing of the thinned fast-dry stuff. For all other parts of the airplane I used the normal Minwax spar urethane (not thinned at the factory or by me) with a brush until I was happy with the appearance--especially inside the cockpit areas where everyone sees. I allowed many weeks and in some cases months to pass before applying fabric cement (MEK in my case) but was advised by the old IA's and A&P's at the local airport to spray an automotive DuPont 222S sanding sealer over any area that would see solvent. Back to the Better Homes and Garden bug sprayer with a gallon or two of that stuff that I found at a local NAPA store. The stuff goes on like water, dries in less than 5 minutes. Two coats of that insure that the MEK won't attack your varnish. Some builders paint a 2-part epoxy on any varnished surfaces where they anticipate solvents to be used in fabric work so that the solvent won't soften the varnish. I thought that was too heavy and if this method of sanding sealer worked for guys in their 70's and 80's who had been restoring airplanes for 60 years then it was good enough for me. Caution-- the sanding sealer won't guarantee that your solvent won't attack your varnish. The best policy for the sanding sealer to work is to allow your varnish to cure for many weeks...at least 3 or 4 before applying the sanding sealer. Any sooner and you'd better just use the 2-part epoxy where you are going to be applying solvent to do fabric attaching or finishing tape applications. Mike C. >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol- >list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of brian.e.jardine@L-3Com.com >Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 11:16 AM >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Wing > > >I was thinking more on the lines of spraying varnish out of the gallon >can through my industrial paint sprayer, I would think the varnish would >be too thick to spray through my automotive paint sprayer. > >Brian >SLC-UT > > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol- >list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Boatright >Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 9:07 AM >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Wing > > >I'm interested in this, too. Many types of >"varnish" are available in spray cans. Some are >true oil-based varnishes (Cabot sells this). >Others are urethane (just about all the major >players like Krylon sell their version of this), >and I guess there could be other types. > >One big concern I have about this use is whether >the solvents and propellants are compatible with >whatever glue you are using. Most of us use >epoxy, but many still use rescorcinol, and still >others are exploring the newer one-part glues. I >would not assume that the solvent mix in a spray >can is the same as the solvent in brush can, even >for the same varnish by the same maker. > >Of course, this may just be paranoia. > >Does anyone have experience with the various spray varnishes? > > >> >>Group, >>On the topic of varnish...can it be sprayed on >>rather than brushed on? It seems it would be >>much faster and easier, unless the varnish is >>too thick to spray. >> >>Brian >>SLC-UT >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com >>[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] >>On Behalf Of Jim Markle >>Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 8:15 AM >>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >>Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Wing >> > >> >>Some have just put one coat of varnish on to >>save on weight. Or grind off any varnish OR >>epoxy drips, runs or squeeze out...to save >>weight. >> >>Dipping would probably be overkill in terms of >>quantity and I wonder how you would keep all >>those, ok I'll say it: nooks and crannys from >>retaining little puddles? >> >>Would probably work but I'll bet the time spent >>hand brushing would save some weight...and on >>the Pietenpol it ALL adds up! >> >>jm >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>>From: greg menoche >>>Sent: Jan 28, 2010 9:05 AM >>>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >>>Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Wing >>> > >>> >>>To save time, could you just dip the rib in a >>>pan of varnish instead of Qtip and brush >>>method? Greg Menoche >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: Jack Phillips >>>Sent: Jan 28, 2010 9:11 AM >>>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >>>Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Wing >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>Man, that's a LOT of varnishing to be done at >>>one time. Given that varnish takes a long time >>>(several days) to dry between coats, you might >>>do better to be varnishing one portion while >>>working on building another - for example, put >>>a coat of varnish on your spars while working >>>on the fuselage. >>> >>>You will want at least two coats of varnish on >>>everything. Whether using epoxy varnish (my >>>personal recommendation), a 2 part polyurethane >>>varnish (next best) or a one can Home Depot >>>variety of polyurethane spar varnish (check to >>>make sure it won't be lifted by the covering >>>materials), you will get best protection by >>>thinning the first coat about 50/50 with >>>reducer so it will soak into the wood more >>>easily. Then put a full strength coat over >>>that. Make sure you get into all the little >>>nooks and crannies (what exactly is the >>>difference between a nook and a cranny?), > >>>particularly in the ribs and tail section. >>> >>>Just my 2 worth. >>> >>>Jack Phillips >>>NX899JP >>>Raleigh, NC >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com >>>[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] >>>On Behalf Of Michael Perez >>>Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 8:18 AM >>>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >>>Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wing >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>I plan to build the complete plane, minus >>>covering, all fitted together cables and all. >>>THEN take apart and varnish/stain just prior to >>>covering. >>> >>>--- On Thu, 1/28/10, gcardinal wrote: >>> >>>From: gcardinal >>>Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wing >>>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >>>Date: Thursday, January 28, 2010, 7:47 AM >>> >>> >>>Varnishing under metal fittings is the proper >>>procedure. Don't forget to varnish inside all >>>bolt holes. >> > >>> >>> >>>Greg Cardinal >>> >>> >>>----- Original Message ----- >>> >>>From: catdesigns@att.net >>> >>>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >>> >>>Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 1:52 AM >>> >>>Subject: Pietenpol-List: Wing >>> >>> >>> >>>For all you wing builders, I am planing on >>>building my wings (3-piece) completely then >>>take the fittings off to varnish the wood. Is >>>this ok or is this going to screw something up? >>> >>> >>> >>>Chris >>>Sacramento, CA >>>WestCoastPiet.com >>>href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol- >List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol- >Listhref="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.comhref=" >http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c >>>" target=_blank >>>rel=nofollow>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol- >List=nofollow>http://forums.matronics.comblank >>>rel=nofollow>http://www.matronics.com/contribution >>>>>font-size:10.0pt;color:black; >>>Subscription,>>font-size:10.0pt;color:black;="================>>style=" font-size:10.0pt;color:black; >>>Forums!http://forums.matronics.com>>style=" font-size:10.0pt;color:black; >>>support!http://www.matronics.com/contribution >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 01:31:13 PM PST US From: "Jack Phillips" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Article on Ken Perkins I just read the article in the new Sport Aviation about Ken Perkin's and his "Time Machine". Good article, and great publicity for Pietenpols. Jack Phillips NX899JP Raleigh, NC ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 01:53:07 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: spraying varnish on wings/ tailsurfaces From: "taildrags" Yet another point in favor of the Stewart Systems water-based covering system, I guess. Although I have really grown to love and appreciate the smell of the Poly-Fiber materials, there are many positives to eliminating the solvent-based covering systems. I assume that the Stewart System materials wouldn't do a thing to varnish of any type. -------- Oscar Zuniga San Antonio, TX Air Camper NX41CC Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=283968#283968 ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 01:54:29 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Article on Ken Perkins From: "ivan.todorovic" They've just published three nice links about Sky Scout: http://www.eaa.org/sportaviationmag/2010/1958_02_14.pdf http://www.eaa.org/sportaviationmag/2010/1958_03_13.pdf http://www.eaa.org/sportaviationmag/2010/1958_04_11.pdf Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=283969#283969 ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 03:08:02 PM PST US From: Jeff Boatright Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Article on Ken Perkins That's a nice article. http://www.sportaviationonline.org/sportaviation/201002#pg44 >I just read the article in the new Sport Aviation about Ken Perkin's >and his "Time Machine". Good article, and great publicity for >Pietenpols. > >Jack Phillips > >NX899JP > >Raleigh, NC > > ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 03:27:35 PM PST US From: Jeff Boatright Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Article on Ken Perkins I did not know that Ken's prop is 77x44. Zounds! -- --- Jeffrey H. Boatright, Ph.D. Associate Professor of Ophthalmology Emory University School of Medicine Editor-in-Chief Molecular Vision ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 03:31:19 PM PST US From: Jim Markle Subject: Pietenpol-List: Article on Ken Perkins and Kevin Purtee! There's also a nice picture of Kevin Purtee's Air Camper in that issue. Neat! -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Boatright Sent: Jan 29, 2010 5:07 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Article on Ken Perkins That's a nice article. http://www.sportaviationonline.org/sportaviation/201002#pg44 I just read the article in the new Sport Aviation about Ken Perkin's and his "Time Machine". Good article, and great publicity for Pietenpols. Jack Phillips NX899JP Raleigh, NC ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 08:04:38 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: spraying varnish on wings/ tailsurfaces From: Rick Holland Yup, no stinkin MEK, water based. I saved more brain cells just covering my tail feathers than I fried in my freshman year at CU in 68. Rick On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 4:52 PM, taildrags wrote: > > Yet another point in favor of the Stewart Systems water-based covering > system, I guess. Although I have really grown to love and appreciate the > smell of the Poly-Fiber materials, there are many positives to eliminating > the solvent-based covering systems. I assume that the Stewart System > materials wouldn't do a thing to varnish of any type. > > -------- > Oscar Zuniga > San Antonio, TX > Air Camper NX41CC > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=283968#283968 > > -- Rick Holland Castle Rock, Colorado "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message pietenpol-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pietenpol-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/pietenpol-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.