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1. 04:43 AM - Re: aileron horns (Ben Charvet)
2. 06:56 AM - Re: Leather coaming- last page (Rick Holland)
3. 07:14 AM - Re: Leather coaming- last page (helspersew@aol.com)
4. 08:57 AM - paper certificates (Ralph and Carol)
5. 10:34 AM - Re: paper certificates (Dave and Connie)
6. 10:59 AM - paper certificates (Oscar Zuniga)
7. 11:00 AM - Re: paper certificates (David Paule)
8. 11:11 AM - Re: paper certificates (David Paule)
9. 11:13 AM - I hate Dan too now! (Douwe Blumberg)
10. 11:14 AM - Re: paper certificates (Ed G.)
11. 11:54 AM - Re: I hate Dan too now! (Steve Ruse)
12. 12:14 PM - Re: I hate Dan too now! (helspersew@aol.com)
13. 12:47 PM - Re: I hate Dan too now! (Gary Boothe)
14. 01:10 PM - Re: paper certificates (Ben Charvet)
15. 01:38 PM - Re: paper certificates (Rick Holland)
16. 01:40 PM - beauuutiful work Dan--cockpit leather combing (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation])
17. 01:59 PM - Re: paper certificates (dwilson)
18. 02:14 PM - I smell a Lindy award, 2010 style (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation])
19. 02:47 PM - Re: I hate Dan too now! (Jack Phillips)
20. 02:50 PM - we don't need no stinking certificates (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation])
21. 04:10 PM - Re: Leather coaming- last page (John Smoyer)
22. 06:09 PM - Little Helpers (Jack)
23. 06:26 PM - Re: Little Helpers (Gary Boothe)
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Subject: | Re: aileron horns |
I have to agree with Douwe. The closer I get to my first flight, the
more I wake up in the middle of the night and think of all the little
things that I might have messed up without knowing it. Only 4 days till
my airworthiness inspection...
Ben Charvet
NX866BC
As close to 100% as I can get it without a test flight
On 2/7/2010 9:32 PM, Douwe Blumberg wrote:
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Douwe Blumberg"<douweblumberg@earthlink.net>
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> My horns are flat stock, angled to line up with the cable.
>
> I think if something is just bugging you, and it doesn't go away, then you
> should probably take the time to re-do it. With all the other things to
> look at on a beautiful Piet, I don't really notice control horns, but ...
> that might be all you notice on your baby if you don't fix it.
>
> Douwe
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>
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Subject: | Re: Leather coaming- last page |
Very nice work Dan. How far from the edge of the aluminum did you drill the
holes for the lacing?
Rick
On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 2:48 PM, <helspersew@aol.com> wrote:
>
> A slight bit of wrinkling is evident in the curves, but it is very uniform
> and goes good with my "distressed" leather. I used round leather lacing cord
> I bought on line from Leather Cord USA.
>
> [image: Cockpitcoamingleatherpadding025.jpg picture by dhelsper]
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> [image: Cockpitcoamingleatherpadding034.jpg picture by dhelsper]
>
> Lacing, about 1/2 way done. Originally my coaming metal stopped at the
> pilot back rest, but I added a piece to get more of a true "pit" look.
>
> Hope this info helps somebody.
>
> Dan Helsper
> Poplar Grove, IL.
>
>
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>
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Rick Holland
Castle Rock, Colorado
"Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"
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Subject: | Re: Leather coaming- last page |
Rick,
For example, the metal sticks out past the instrument palel 1 1/2", and th
e lacing holes at that point are 1 1/4" in from the edge of the metal. Aro
und the sharp curves the holes get a little closer to the edge of the meta
l.
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
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From: Rick Holland <at7000ft@gmail.com>
Sent: Mon, Feb 8, 2010 8:55 am
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Leather coaming- last page
Very nice work Dan. How far from the edge of the aluminum did you drill th
e holes for the lacing?
Rick
On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 2:48 PM, <helspersew@aol.com> wrote:
A slight bit of wrinkling is evident in the curves, but it is very uniform
and goes good with my "distressed" leather. I used round leather lacing
cord I bought on line from Leather Cord USA.
Lacing, about 1/2 way done. Originally my coaming metal stopped at the pil
ot back rest, but I added a piece to get more of a true "pit" look.
Hope this info helps somebody.
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
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Subject: | paper certificates |
After reading several posts about the Sport Aviation article about
Perk's Piet my copy finally arrived last week. It was a good article
but of greater concern was a short article on page 10 about our paper
pilot certificates expiring on March 31, 2010. Am I the only person in
the country who was totally unaware of this? I tried to take care of it
on the internet but I live on a farm and get my mail at the post office
and the "system" wouldn't recognize my address. I did run off the paper
application and mailed it in. Heads up if you weren't aware of this.
Ralph in the SD boondocks
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Subject: | Re: paper certificates |
What is the URL to try to do the change? I hadn't heard about this
either and will probably have the same problem as you.
Dave
Ralph and Carol wrote:
> After reading several posts about the Sport Aviation article about
> Perk's Piet my copy finally arrived last week. It was a good article
> but of greater concern was a short article on page 10 about our paper
> pilot certificates expiring on March 31, 2010. Am I the only person
> in the country who was totally unaware of this? I tried to take care
> of it on the internet but I live on a farm and get my mail at the post
> office and the "system" wouldn't recognize my address. I did run off
> the paper application and mailed it in. Heads up if you weren't aware
> of this.
>
> Ralph in the SD boondocks
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Subject: | paper certificates |
I, too, was trying to avoid the paper/plastic issue
and thought it was voluntary. I've had my old paper
certificate for a long time now, along with my FCC
radiotelephone license, and had no desire to go to
plastic. Now there is no choice in the matter. I
sent in the two bucks or whatever it is, and got my
new credit card certificate. I later found out that
the fee is waived if you also agree to change your
certificate number to a generic number instead of
your social security number, so my new plastic still
has my SS number on it and it cost me a couple of bucks
to make the change.
Oh, well.
Oscar Zuniga
Air Camper NX41CC
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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Subject: | Re: paper certificates |
Here's the link:
http://www.faa.gov/licenses_certificates/airmen_certification/expiring_pa
per_certificates/
David Paule
----- Original Message -----
From: Ralph and Carol
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 9:56 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: paper certificates
After reading several posts about the Sport Aviation article about
Perk's Piet my copy finally arrived last week. It was a good article
but of greater concern was a short article on page 10 about our paper
pilot certificates expiring on March 31, 2010. Am I the only person in
the country who was totally unaware of this? I tried to take care of it
on the internet but I live on a farm and get my mail at the post office
and the "system" wouldn't recognize my address. I did run off the paper
application and mailed it in. Heads up if you weren't aware of this.
Ralph in the SD boondocks
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Subject: | Re: paper certificates |
Here's the link:
http://www.faa.gov/licenses_certificates/airmen_certification/expiring_paper_certificates/
David Paule
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave and Connie" <dmatt@frontiernet.net>
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 11:18 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: paper certificates
> <dmatt@frontiernet.net>
>
> What is the URL to try to do the change? I hadn't heard about this either
> and will probably have the same problem as you.
> Dave
>
> Ralph and Carol wrote:
>> After reading several posts about the Sport Aviation article about Perk's
>> Piet my copy finally arrived last week. It was a good article but of
>> greater concern was a short article on page 10 about our paper pilot
>> certificates expiring on March 31, 2010. Am I the only person in the
>> country who was totally unaware of this? I tried to take care of it on
>> the internet but I live on a farm and get my mail at the post office and
>> the "system" wouldn't recognize my address. I did run off the paper
>> application and mailed it in. Heads up if you weren't aware of this.
>> Ralph in the SD boondocks
>> *
>> *
>
>
>
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Subject: | I hate Dan too now! |
I'm with Gene, after seeing Dan's coaming pics, I hate him too!!
Makes mine look like some kids made it...
Incredible workmanship!
Douwe
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Subject: | paper certificates |
I just googled FAA airmans certificate replace and ity sent me to www.FAA
.gov/licences_certificates/airman_certification/media/8060-56.pdf once t
here I was able to print out a form to fill out and mail in. I'm sure glad
someone brought this up on the list. Thanks Ralph
> Date: Mon=2C 8 Feb 2010 13:18:49 -0500
> From: dmatt@frontiernet.net
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: paper certificates
>
net>
>
> What is the URL to try to do the change? I hadn't heard about this
> either and will probably have the same problem as you.
> Dave
>
> Ralph and Carol wrote:
> > After reading several posts about the Sport Aviation article about
> > Perk's Piet my copy finally arrived last week. It was a good article
> > but of greater concern was a short article on page 10 about our paper
> > pilot certificates expiring on March 31=2C 2010. Am I the only person
> > in the country who was totally unaware of this? I tried to take care
> > of it on the internet but I live on a farm and get my mail at the post
> > office and the "system" wouldn't recognize my address. I did run off
> > the paper application and mailed it in. Heads up if you weren't aware
> > of this.
> >
> > Ralph in the SD boondocks
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Subject: | Re: I hate Dan too now! |
Dan, if we ever end up at the same fly-in, please do not park your
plane next to mine. It looks ridiculously nice.
Thanks for taking the time to post the pictures and description of
your technique.
Steve Ruse
Norman, OK
Quoting Douwe Blumberg <douweblumberg@earthlink.net>:
> <douweblumberg@earthlink.net>
>
> I'm with Gene, after seeing Dan's coaming pics, I hate him too!!
>
> Makes mine look like some kids made it...
>
> Incredible workmanship!
>
> Douwe
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Subject: | Re: I hate Dan too now! |
Steve,
You can be sure there are plenty of flaws on mine. I will point them out
when I park next to you.
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Ruse <steve@wotelectronics.com>
Sent: Mon, Feb 8, 2010 1:51 pm
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: I hate Dan too now!
>
Dan, if we ever end up at the same fly-in, please do not park your plane
next to mine. It looks ridiculously nice.
Thanks for taking the time to post the pictures and description of your te
chnique.
Steve Ruse
Norman, OK
Quoting Douwe Blumberg <douweblumberg@earthlink.net>:
earthlink.net>
>
> I'm with Gene, after seeing Dan's coaming pics, I hate him too!!
>
> Makes mine look like some kids made it...
>
> Incredible workmanship!
>
> Douwe
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Subject: | I hate Dan too now! |
My flaws are self-evident.although my wife does take the time to point them
out, from time to time.
Gary Boothe
Cool, CA
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
16 ribs done
Do not archive
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
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Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 12:12 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: I hate Dan too now!
Steve,
You can be sure there are plenty of flaws on mine. I will point them out
when I park next to you.
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Ruse <steve@wotelectronics.com>
Sent: Mon, Feb 8, 2010 1:51 pm
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: I hate Dan too now!
Dan, if we ever end up at the same fly-in, please do not park your plane
next to mine. It looks ridiculously nice.
Thanks for taking the time to post the pictures and description of your
technique.
Steve Ruse
Norman, OK
Quoting Douwe Blumberg <douweblumberg@earthlink.net>:
<douweblumberg@earthlink.net>
>
> I'm with Gene, after seeing Dan's coaming pics, I hate him too!!
>
> Makes mine look like some kids made it...
>
> Incredible workmanship!
>
> Douwe
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Subject: | Re: paper certificates |
One problem I've noticed if you fly as a Sport Pilot and have a Private
cert, you don't get any mailings direct from the FAA, since I guess they
use the Medical database to decide if you are active. A few years ago
they started requiring your license to verify you can speak English. I
got that taken care of at Sun-N-Fun 2 years ago. I got my first plastic
card for free, as I had lost my paper one and noticed on the website
they were changing your license number away from SS# and you can get a
plastic version for free with this change.
Ben
On 2/8/2010 11:56 AM, Ralph and Carol wrote:
> After reading several posts about the Sport Aviation article about
> Perk's Piet my copy finally arrived last week. It was a good article
> but of greater concern was a short article on page 10 about our paper
> pilot certificates expiring on March 31, 2010. Am I the only person
> in the country who was totally unaware of this? I tried to take care
> of it on the internet but I live on a farm and get my mail at the post
> office and the "system" wouldn't recognize my address. I did run off
> the paper application and mailed it in. Heads up if you weren't aware
> of this.
> Ralph in the SD boondocks
> *
>
>
> *
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Subject: | Re: paper certificates |
Verify you can speak English for a license? What till the ACLU gets hold of
this information.
On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Ben Charvet <bcharvet@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> One problem I've noticed if you fly as a Sport Pilot and have a Private
> cert, you don't get any mailings direct from the FAA, since I guess they use
> the Medical database to decide if you are active. A few years ago they
> started requiring your license to verify you can speak English. I got that
> taken care of at Sun-N-Fun 2 years ago. I got my first plastic card for
> free, as I had lost my paper one and noticed on the website they were
> changing your license number away from SS# and you can get a plastic version
> for free with this change.
>
> Ben
> On 2/8/2010 11:56 AM, Ralph and Carol wrote:
>
> After reading several posts about the Sport Aviation article about Perk's
> Piet my copy finally arrived last week. It was a good article but of
> greater concern was a short article on page 10 about our paper pilot
> certificates expiring on March 31, 2010. Am I the only person in the
> country who was totally unaware of this? I tried to take care of it on the
> internet but I live on a farm and get my mail at the post office and the
> "system" wouldn't recognize my address. I did run off the paper application
> and mailed it in. Heads up if you weren't aware of this.
>
> Ralph in the SD boondocks
>
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Subject: | beauuutiful work Dan--cockpit leather combing |
Aha-again another guy who has, reads, and uses some of the excellent ideas
in the Tony Bingelis books.
I used a very similar method Dan but used leather shoe lace materials from
Walmart.
PS-Dan, does that combing behind you adversely affect your comfort on your
upper back or shoulders ?
I've spoken to a number of builders who removed that combing around the bac
kside because it became
bothersome once the plane was flying. Hopefully this isn't true in your
case because it sure does have a fantastic
look !
Mike C.
PS-and Dan, I don't hate you. I can't hate a brother. No way.
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Subject: | Re: paper certificates |
When you receive your new plastic card you will also have a new issue date.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=285463#285463
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Subject: | I smell a Lindy award, 2010 style |
I think if Dan takes his plane to Oshkosh he'll come home with a Lindy. I
would love to see that happen !!!
Mike C.
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Subject: | I hate Dan too now! |
Isn't that what wives are for?
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Boothe
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 3:30 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: I hate Dan too now!
My flaws are self-evident.although my wife does take the time to point them
out, from time to time.
Gary Boothe
Cool, CA
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
16 ribs done
Do not archive
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Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 12:12 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: I hate Dan too now!
Steve,
You can be sure there are plenty of flaws on mine. I will point them out
when I park next to you.
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Ruse <steve@wotelectronics.com>
Sent: Mon, Feb 8, 2010 1:51 pm
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: I hate Dan too now!
Dan, if we ever end up at the same fly-in, please do not park your plane
next to mine. It looks ridiculously nice.
Thanks for taking the time to post the pictures and description of your
technique.
Steve Ruse
Norman, OK
Quoting Douwe Blumberg <douweblumberg@earthlink.net>:
<douweblumberg@earthlink.net>
>
> I'm with Gene, after seeing Dan's coaming pics, I hate him too!!
>
> Makes mine look like some kids made it...
>
> Incredible workmanship!
>
> Douwe
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Subject: | we don't need no stinking certificates |
You mean some of you guys actually have pilot licenses ??
My favorite line after giving someone a ride is that "someday I'd really li
ke to get my pilot license" !
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Subject: | Re: Leather coaming- last page |
Dan,
This is really beautiful work. Did you have to wet the leather to get it to make
those curves with minimal wrinkling?
John S.
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From: "helspersew@aol.com" <helspersew@aol.com>
Sent: Mon, February 8, 2010 10:13:43 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Leather coaming- last page
Rick,
For example, the metal sticks out past the instrument palel 1 1/2", and the lacing
holes at that point are 1 1/4" in from the edge of the metal. Around the sharp
curves the holes get a little closer to the edge of the metal.
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
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From: Rick Holland <at7000ft@gmail.com>
Sent: Mon, Feb 8, 2010 8:55 am
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Leather coaming- last page
Very nice work Dan. How far from the edge of the aluminum did you drill the holes
for the lacing?
Rick
On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 2:48 PM, <helspersew@aol.com> wrote:
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>A slight bit of wrinkling is evident in the curves, but it is very uniform and
goes good with my "distressed" leather. I used round leather lacing cord I bought
on line from Leather Cord USA.
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>Lacing, about 1/2 way done. Originally my coaming metal stopped at the pilot back
rest, but I added a piece to get more of a true "pit" look.
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>Hope this info helps somebody.
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>Dan Helsper
>Poplar Grove, IL.
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Just enjoyed planning my turtle deck stringers. Items that made it a little
easier were some fixtures (holders) that have come in very handy throughout
my project. They are just two small squares of plywood glued and nailed to
a block of wood. The space in the middle is one inch, which served as a
nice support under my spars many times during the build. The attached
pictures tell the story better than I.
Jack
DSM
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Jack,
One thing that Pietenpol builders are better at than building planes... is
building jigs!! Great idea...
Gary Boothe
Cool, Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion, mounted
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
(16 ribs down.)
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 6:08 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Little Helpers
Just enjoyed planning my turtle deck stringers. Items that made it a little
easier were some fixtures (holders) that have come in very handy throughout
my project. They are just two small squares of plywood glued and nailed to
a block of wood. The space in the middle is one inch, which served as a
nice support under my spars many times during the build. The attached
pictures tell the story better than I.
Jack
DSM
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