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1. 01:43 AM - Re: It's Netflix Time!!! TGWP!!! (flea)
2. 07:44 AM - Re: how did you fall in love Jack ? (ALAN LYSCARS)
3. 07:47 AM - a story about Kenny (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation])
4. 08:25 AM - Re: how did you fall in love Jack ? (Jack Phillips)
5. 09:02 AM - Re: how did you fall in love Jack ? (Tim Willis)
6. 10:36 AM - Engine choice (Rodrigo Liberato de Oliveira)
7. 10:43 AM - Re: Engine choice (Jack Phillips)
8. 10:53 AM - Mike Hardaway (Gary Boothe)
9. 10:58 AM - Re: Engine choice (Jeff Boatright)
10. 10:58 AM - Re: Engine choice (K5YAC)
11. 11:12 AM - Re: Engine choice (H RULE)
12. 11:26 AM - Re: Mike Hardaway (Mike)
13. 04:39 PM - Re: Engine choice (Michael Silvius)
14. 05:22 PM - Quell those fears- shoulder interference with coaming leather (helspersew@aol.com)
15. 05:30 PM - Re: Quell those fears- shoulder interference with coaming leather (Gary Boothe)
16. 05:50 PM - Re: Quell those fears- shoulder interference with coaming leather (Jack Phillips)
17. 05:58 PM - Re: Quell those fears- shoulder interference with coaming leather (Wayne Bressler)
18. 06:54 PM - Re: Quell those fears- shoulder interference with coaming leather (Mike)
19. 07:10 PM - Re: Quell those fears- shoulder interference with coaming leathe (K5YAC)
20. 07:31 PM - Re: Quell those fears- shoulder interference with coaming leathe (taildrags)
21. 07:37 PM - Re: Quell those fears- shoulder interference with coaming leathe (K5YAC)
22. 07:51 PM - how did you fall in love Jack (Oscar Zuniga)
23. 08:55 PM - Re: how did you fall in love Jack (Ernie Moreno)
24. 09:24 PM - Re: Re: Quell those fears- shoulder interference with coaming leathe (Clif Dawson)
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Subject: | Re: It's Netflix Time!!! TGWP!!! |
I've never seen that movie but it has just made my favorites list. Thank you for
mentioning it.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=286766#286766
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Subject: | Re: how did you fall in love Jack ? |
Jack,
Having gone through, already, Practice #1, does Karen have a sister who
likes Yankees???
Al Lyscars
GN-1/NH
----- Original Message -----
From: Jack Phillips
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 9:13 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: how did you fall in love Jack ?
How did I decide to build a Pietenpol? I owned a J-3 Cub for several
years, and liked the way it flew. I bought it from my father, who
wanted to sell it because it needed recovering (this was 1976 and it
still had the original factory cotton on the fuselage, from 1946). I
was living in Fort Worth, Texas at the time and went home to Jackson,
Tennessee to fly the Cub back to Texas. While I was in Jackson, I found
that my friend Mike Lucky had just finished building an Air Camper. He
was trying to fly off the hours on it and asked if I wanted to fly it.
I did so and found it flew very much like my Cub. Only years later did
I find out that Mike's was a Grega GN-1, not a Pietenpol, so now having
flown both I can say they fly nearly identically.
Anyway, after rebuilding the Cub I got married to my first practice
wife (I took her flying in it on our first date) and all was bliss until
one day when she saw the bill for hangar rent and gave the ultimatum
"Either the airplane goes, or I go". I made a mistake and sold the
airplane. I should have just divorced her on the spot and saved myself
12 years of misery. We split up in November of 1995 and in December of
that year I ordered my plans from Don Pietenpol, with construction
starting in January of 1996.
I met and married practice wife # 2 while building the Pietenpol so
she really had no cause to complain that I spent more time in the shop
than in the bedroom. She left me and ran off with a 28 year old kid.
She claimed to like flying (I owned a Cessna 140 at the time) until she
got a wedding ring on her finger and then never flew with me again. So
I made absolutely certain that Karen (my real, and final wife) not only
understood my passion for aviation but that she really liked to fly with
me before I asked her to marry me. Third time was the charm!
Ok - back to Pietenpol issues and answers!
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Raleigh, NC
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Cuy,
Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 12:46 PM
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: Pietenpol-List: how did you fall in love Jack ?
Congratulations on your Sportsman Pilot article Jack. Hoping my
issue is waiting for me at home
tonight.
Funny how I've been friends with Jack for quite a while now thru the
Pietenpol movement but
only after visiting with him recently did it ever occur to me to
actually ask him what ever got him
to building a Piet ?
So Jack unless that question is answered in Jack Cox's article on you,
could you tell us all how you
first fell in love with the Pietenpol ?
My story was pretty simple. Frank Pavliga gave me a ride in his
Pietenpol and the view, the sensations,
the whole experience made me sell my Champ so I'd have funds to start
building a Pietenpol.
So I gave up an enclosed cabin, 17 mph in cruise speed, cabin heat,
and sexy wheel pants for a Pietenpol !
(well worth it)
Mike C.
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-Listhttp://forums.matronics.
comhttp://www.matronics.com/contribution
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Subject: | a story about Kenny |
Kenny Mellert is a neat old pilot out at a local grass strip in Valley City
, Ohio. Kenny knows everyone in Valley
City and who's who, what's what. We affectionately call him Mr. Mayor.
We think Kenny should be the mayor
of Valley City.
One day when Kenny was giving me advice about why I should just date and no
t get married I asked him the secret
of his happy marriage. He said his marriage only became happy after he fi
nally gave into years and years of not flying
to keep his wife happy. He said not flying didn't make her any happier so
he said the heck with it and at 70 years old
he found a decent 172 and pronounced one night at supper time that he was g
oing to buy it and start flying. Barb told
Kenny that if he bought that airplane she would divorce him. Kenny tol
d her that it was nice knowing her and went
out and bought the 172 and has flown it for over 12 years now. Barb never
did divorce him. Kenny still says that
was the only part of that airplane deal that didn't pan out for him.
Mike C.
do not archive
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Subject: | how did you fall in love Jack ? |
Yes she does. But her sister's husband might object.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Raleigh, NC
_____
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of ALAN LYSCARS
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 10:41 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: how did you fall in love Jack ?
Jack,
Having gone through, already, Practice #1, does Karen have a sister who
likes Yankees???
Al Lyscars
GN-1/NH
----- Original Message -----
From: Jack <mailto:pietflyr@bellsouth.net> Phillips
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 9:13 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: how did you fall in love Jack ?
How did I decide to build a Pietenpol? I owned a J-3 Cub for several years,
and liked the way it flew. I bought it from my father, who wanted to sell
it because it needed recovering (this was 1976 and it still had the original
factory cotton on the fuselage, from 1946). I was living in Fort Worth,
Texas at the time and went home to Jackson, Tennessee to fly the Cub back to
Texas. While I was in Jackson, I found that my friend Mike Lucky had just
finished building an Air Camper. He was trying to fly off the hours on it
and asked if I wanted to fly it. I did so and found it flew very much like
my Cub. Only years later did I find out that Mike's was a Grega GN-1, not a
Pietenpol, so now having flown both I can say they fly nearly identically.
Anyway, after rebuilding the Cub I got married to my first practice wife (I
took her flying in it on our first date) and all was bliss until one day
when she saw the bill for hangar rent and gave the ultimatum "Either the
airplane goes, or I go". I made a mistake and sold the airplane. I should
have just divorced her on the spot and saved myself 12 years of misery. We
split up in November of 1995 and in December of that year I ordered my plans
from Don Pietenpol, with construction starting in January of 1996.
I met and married practice wife # 2 while building the Pietenpol so she
really had no cause to complain that I spent more time in the shop than in
the bedroom. She left me and ran off with a 28 year old kid. She claimed
to like flying (I owned a Cessna 140 at the time) until she got a wedding
ring on her finger and then never flew with me again. So I made absolutely
certain that Karen (my real, and final wife) not only understood my passion
for aviation but that she really liked to fly with me before I asked her to
marry me. Third time was the charm!
Ok - back to Pietenpol issues and answers!
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Raleigh, NC
Do Not Archive
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Cuy, Michael
D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 12:46 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: how did you fall in love Jack ?
Congratulations on your Sportsman Pilot article Jack. Hoping my issue is
waiting for me at home
tonight.
Funny how I've been friends with Jack for quite a while now thru the
Pietenpol movement but
only after visiting with him recently did it ever occur to me to actually
ask him what ever got him
to building a Piet ?
So Jack unless that question is answered in Jack Cox's article on you, could
you tell us all how you
first fell in love with the Pietenpol ?
My story was pretty simple. Frank Pavliga gave me a ride in his Pietenpol
and the view, the sensations,
the whole experience made me sell my Champ so I'd have funds to start
building a Pietenpol.
So I gave up an enclosed cabin, 17 mph in cruise speed, cabin heat, and sexy
wheel pants for a Pietenpol !
(well worth it)
Mike C.
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
http://forums.matronics.com
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.matronic
s.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c
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Subject: | how did you fall in love Jack ? |
JAck, Mike, et al: It is the veracity of these "wife stories" that makes them
funny. It is also what makes them painful.
Tim in central TX
do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: Jack Phillips
Sent: Feb 17, 2010 10:23 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: how did you fall in love Jack ?
Yes she does. But her sisters husband might object.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Raleigh, NC
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Hi Jack,
it's good that you asked about my engine choice, cos that's a point
where some input from experts is needed.
In concept, I like the corvair. Inexpensive, reliable, and can become
a project, just like the rest of the plane.
The only and probably "ruling out" problem is: there are no corvairs
in Brazil. My country has the nasty habit to tax
it's citizens til we bleed, so building and maintaining based on parts
brought from the US is not an option.
Than there is the continental family. Until the 1960 decade, we had a
local designed plane called P-56C "Paulistinha" that used the C90.
Almost every flight school in the country used that plane and they
were produced in a good number, so there are some good blocks around,
and that was my initial
option. On the modern side, I though of a rebuildable 0-200. There is
a guy here who used a Rotax-912 in his piet, but, besides the price,
it just doesn't sound 1930 enough for me.
What do you guys say?
C90 x O 200 x "are you nuts?"
Rodrigo
Em 17/02/2010, s 00:13, Jack Phillips escreveu:
> >
>
> Great, Rodrigo! I'll be at Sun 'n' Fun Friday, Saturday and Sunday,
> and if
> the weather is good enough I'll fly my Pietenpol down. The usual
> gathering
> place for Pietenpol enthusiasts is the wood-working tent where you
> will meet
> such folks as Dick Navratil and PF Beck. They are usually there
> just about
> all day, every day. The rest of us come and go, but always check in a
> couple of times a day with them.
>
> Have you thought about what engine you will use on yours?
>
> Jack Phillips
> NX899JP
> Raleigh, NC
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> Rodrigo
> Liberato de Oliveira
> Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 9:21 PM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Time to get out of the closet
>
> <ditoliberato@terra.com.br>
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> first of all, let me introduce myself. My name is Rodrigo Oliveira and
> I'm from Minas Gerais - Brazil. Together with my father, Jose, I'm
> about to start a Piet project. Plans already here.
> I've been following the list for a while now, quite anxious for an
> opportunity to contribute, but soon I realized that none of my skills
> available at the moment were of use, specially because I haven't
> started yet.
> But than, here and there, messages mentioning Sun n Fun are popping ,
> and it got me all happy cos I'm actually making it up there this year.
> The show itself would be a dream come true already, but since me and
> my Dad have this project now, it's going to be just amazing to meet
> some of you guys there, and maybe see a real Piet "live". Dad is
> coming with me, but he speaks no english at all, so patience will be
> welcome :)
> Anyway, just wanted to say hi and come out of the shadows.
>
> Cheers from the south,
>
> Rodrigo
>
> Piet plans purchased
> Sun N Fun, almost there!
>
>
> Esta mensagem foi verificada pelo E-mail Protegido Terra.
> Atualizado em 16/02/2010
>
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Frankly, I think the C90 or O-200 is an ideal choice for a Pietenpol. I
have an A65 Continental on mine and there are days (particularly in the
summer) when I wish I had a bit more power.
One of the best options is a C90 or C85 with an O-200 crankshaft in it.
Check out Harry Fenton's website - he is THE expert on small
Continentals:
http://www.bowersflybaby.com/tech/fenton.htm
Good luck!
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Raleigh, NC
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rodrigo
Liberato de Oliveira
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 1:36 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Engine choice
<ditoliberato@terra.com.br>
Hi Jack,
it's good that you asked about my engine choice, cos that's a point
where some input from experts is needed.
In concept, I like the corvair. Inexpensive, reliable, and can become
a project, just like the rest of the plane.
The only and probably "ruling out" problem is: there are no corvairs
in Brazil. My country has the nasty habit to tax
it's citizens til we bleed, so building and maintaining based on parts
brought from the US is not an option.
Than there is the continental family. Until the 1960 decade, we had a
local designed plane called P-56C "Paulistinha" that used the C90.
Almost every flight school in the country used that plane and they
were produced in a good number, so there are some good blocks around,
and that was my initial
option. On the modern side, I though of a rebuildable 0-200. There is
a guy here who used a Rotax-912 in his piet, but, besides the price,
it just doesn't sound 1930 enough for me.
What do you guys say?
C90 x O 200 x "are you nuts?"
Rodrigo
Em 17/02/2010, =E0s 00:13, Jack Phillips escreveu:
<pietflyr@bellsouth.net
> >
>
> Great, Rodrigo! I'll be at Sun 'n' Fun Friday, Saturday and Sunday,
> and if
> the weather is good enough I'll fly my Pietenpol down. The usual
> gathering
> place for Pietenpol enthusiasts is the wood-working tent where you
> will meet
> such folks as Dick Navratil and PF Beck. They are usually there
> just about
> all day, every day. The rest of us come and go, but always check in a
> couple of times a day with them.
>
> Have you thought about what engine you will use on yours?
>
> Jack Phillips
> NX899JP
> Raleigh, NC
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> Rodrigo
> Liberato de Oliveira
> Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 9:21 PM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Time to get out of the closet
>
> <ditoliberato@terra.com.br>
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> first of all, let me introduce myself. My name is Rodrigo Oliveira and
> I'm from Minas Gerais - Brazil. Together with my father, Jose, I'm
> about to start a Piet project. Plans already here.
> I've been following the list for a while now, quite anxious for an
> opportunity to contribute, but soon I realized that none of my skills
> available at the moment were of use, specially because I haven't
> started yet.
> But than, here and there, messages mentioning Sun n Fun are popping ,
> and it got me all happy cos I'm actually making it up there this year.
> The show itself would be a dream come true already, but since me and
> my Dad have this project now, it's going to be just amazing to meet
> some of you guys there, and maybe see a real Piet "live". Dad is
> coming with me, but he speaks no english at all, so patience will be
> welcome :)
> Anyway, just wanted to say hi and come out of the shadows.
>
> Cheers from the south,
>
> Rodrigo
>
> Piet plans purchased
> Sun N Fun, almost there!
>
>
> Esta mensagem foi verificada pelo E-mail Protegido Terra.
> Atualizado em 16/02/2010
>
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Sorry List,
Mike, the email I have for you is being returned. Please contact me at:
gboothe5@comcast.net.
Gary Boothe
Cool, Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion, mounted
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
(18 ribs down...)
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How many Model A cars, trucks, etc. did Henry sell in Brazil? Given
Rodrigo's concerns, this might be the most abundant powerplant!
At 1:42 PM -0500 2/17/10, Jack Phillips wrote:
>Frankly, I think the C90 or O-200 is an ideal choice for a Pietenpol. I
>have an A65 Continental on mine and there are days (particularly in the
>summer) when I wish I had a bit more power.
>
>One of the best options is a C90 or C85 with an O-200 crankshaft in it.
>Check out Harry Fenton's website - he is THE expert on small Continentals:
>http://www.bowersflybaby.com/tech/fenton.htm
>
>Good luck!
>
>Jack Phillips
>NX899JP
>Raleigh, NC
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Associate Professor of Ophthalmology
Emory University School of Medicine
Editor-in-Chief
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Subject: | Re: Engine choice |
At least you are sensible Rodrigo! :D
ditoliberato(at)terra.com wrote:
>
> In concept, I like the corvair. Inexpensive, reliable, and can become a project,
just like the rest of the plane.
--------
Mark - working on wings
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=286834#286834
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Subject: | Re: Engine choice |
If your idea is be be authentic then you need a Ford model A engine or a Co
rvair.Expensive and out of reach.If you want to fly then get what ever work
s and you can afford,put it in and FLY.Think of what Bernard would have don
e.His idea was for the average guy to build a plane in his backyard and fly
it.He did not mean for us to copy him every step of the way.He even made c
hanges along the way ,modify here,modify there.Home builders are innovative
and resourceful.Use what you can get or find,scrouge.Do what ever it takes
but the end result is to get into the air and enjoy.That's my take on it f
or what it's worth.=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom:
Rodrigo Liberato de Oliveira <ditoliberato@terra.com.br>=0ATo: pietenpol-li
st@matronics.com=0ASent: Wed, February 17, 2010 1:35:43 PM=0ASubject: Piete
Liberato de Oliveira <ditoliberato@terra.com.br>=0A=0AHi Jack,=0A=0Ait's g
ood that you asked about my engine choice, cos that's a point where some in
put from experts is needed.=0AIn concept, I like the corvair. Inexpensive,
reliable, and can become a project, just like the rest of the plane.=0AThe
only and probably "ruling out" problem is: there are no corvairs in Brazil.
My country has the nasty habit to tax=0Ait's citizens til we bleed, so bui
lding and maintaining based on parts brought from the US is not an option.
=0AThan there is the continental family. Until the 1960 decade, we had a lo
cal designed plane called P-56C "Paulistinha" that used the C90.=0AAlmost e
very flight school in the country used that plane and they were produced in
a good number, so there are some good blocks around, and that was my initi
al=0Aoption. On the modern side, I though of a rebuildable 0-200. There is
a guy here who used a Rotax-912 in his piet, but, besides the price,=0Ait j
ust doesn't sound 1930 enough for me.=0AWhat do you guys say?=0AC90 x O 200
x "are you nuts?"=0A=0ARodrigo=0A=0AEm 17/02/2010, =E0s 00:13, Jack Philli
pietflyr@bellsouth.net>=0A> =0A> Great, Rodrigo!- I'll be at Sun 'n' Fun
Friday, Saturday and Sunday, and if=0A> the weather is good enough I'll fly
my Pietenpol down.- The usual gathering=0A> place for Pietenpol enthusia
sts is the wood-working tent where you will meet=0A> such folks as Dick Nav
ratil and PF Beck.- They are usually there just about=0A> all day, every
day.- The rest of us come and go, but always check in a=0A> couple of tim
es a day with them.=0A> =0A> Have you thought about what engine you will us
e on yours?=0A> =0A> Jack Phillips=0A> NX899JP=0A> Raleigh, NC=0A> =0A> ---
--Original Message-----=0A> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
=0A> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rodrig
o=0A> Liberato de Oliveira=0A> Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 9:21 PM=0A>
erato de Oliveira=0A> <ditoliberato@terra.com.br>=0A> =0A> Hi everyone,=0A>
=0A> first of all, let me introduce myself. My name is Rodrigo Oliveira an
d=0A> I'm from Minas Gerais - Brazil. Together with my father, Jose, I'm=0A
> about to start a Piet project. Plans already here.=0A> I've been followin
g the list for a while now, quite anxious for an=0A> opportunity- to cont
ribute, but soon I realized that none of my skills=0A> available at the mom
ent were of use, specially because I haven't=0A> started yet.=0A> But than,
here and there, messages mentioning Sun n Fun are popping ,=0A> and it got
me all happy cos I'm actually making it up there this year.=0A> The show i
tself would be a dream come true already, but since me and=0A> my Dad have
this project now, it's going to be just amazing to meet=0A> some of you guy
s there, and maybe see a real Piet "live". Dad is=0A> coming with me, but h
e speaks no english at all, so patience will be=0A> welcome :)=0A> Anyway,
just wanted to say hi and come out of the shadows.=0A> =0A> Cheers from the
south,=0A> =0A> Rodrigo=0A> =0A> Piet plans purchased=0A> Sun N Fun, almos
t there!=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> Esta mensage
m foi verificada pelo E-mail Protegido Terra.=0A> Atualizado em 16/02/2010
====================
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Hi Gary,
I guess I have been remiss on spreading the word on my email change.
It is now:
papa.bike.mike@gmail.com
Give it a try now.
Mike
> _____________________________________________
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary
> Boothe
> Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 10:53 AM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Mike Hardaway
>
> Sorry List,
>
> Mike, the email I have for you is being returned. Please contact me
at:
> gboothe5@comcast.net.
>
> Gary Boothe
> Cool, Ca.
> Pietenpol
> WW Corvair Conversion, mounted
> Tail done, Fuselage on gear
> (18 ribs down=85)
>
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Subject: | Re: Engine choice |
Rodrigo:
There is a felow I think his name is Ronnie Correa in Brazil building
Aero-Corvairs and parts for sale,
May be worth touching base with him
http://images.corvair.multiply.com/
And other alternaitve is perhaps Altair Coelho's VW AP 2000 4 cyl inline
conversion.
http://www.altaircoelho.com.br/ac53fotos.html?Submit2=Fotos+AC+53
Note the nice Franklin 85 he has for sale also.
http://www.mataddesign.com/asas/mecan.htm
Michael in Maine
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rodrigo Liberato de Oliveira" <ditoliberato@terra.com.br>
>
> Hi Jack,
>
> it's good that you asked about my engine choice, cos that's a point
> where some input from experts is needed.
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Subject: | Quell those fears- shoulder interference with coaming |
leather
Hello all you good people, (an assumption)
There was a question raised, about how one's shoulders and upper torso wou
ld interfere with the "pit"- shaped leather that forms the oval perimeter
of the coaming on the Piet. Here is a photo of how it looks on a handsome
, 150 lb. man, 5'-8" tall.
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL
please archive... very important
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Subject: | Quell those fears- shoulder interference with coaming |
leather
That's why all the girls called you, "Handsome Dan!" I can see why you're so
proud and happy.
Gary Boothe
Cool, Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion, mounted
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
(18 ribs down.)
Do not archive
_____
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
helspersew@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 5:20 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Quell those fears- shoulder interference with
coaming leather
Hello all you good people, (an assumption)
There was a question raised, about how one's shoulders and upper torso would
interfere with the "pit"- shaped leather that forms the oval perimeter of
the coaming on the Piet. Here is a photo of how it looks on a handsome, 150
lb. man, 5'-8" tall.
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL
please archive... very important
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Subject: | Quell those fears- shoulder interference with coaming |
leather
Boy are you stupid, Dan. You forgot to paint that cowling before installing
the leather and lacing it in place. Now you've got to take it off, paint it
and re-lace the leather. Your easy method may make that an easy task, but
I'd just as soon stick a fork in my eye as to have to re-lace my cockpit
coaming.
Just kidding - looks great!
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Raleigh, NC
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
helspersew@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 8:20 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Quell those fears- shoulder interference with
coaming leather
Hello all you good people, (an assumption)
There was a question raised, about how one's shoulders and upper torso would
interfere with the "pit"- shaped leather that forms the oval perimeter of
the coaming on the Piet. Here is a photo of how it looks on a handsome, 150
lb. man, 5'-8" tall.
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL
please archive... very important
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Subject: | Re: Quell those fears- shoulder interference with coaming |
leather
I thought is was "Dapper Dan". :)
Do not archive
Wayne Bressler Jr.
Taildraggers, Inc.
taildraggersinc.com
On Feb 17, 2010, at 8:30 PM, "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote:
> That=99s why all the girls called you, =9CHandsome Dan!
=9D I can see
> why you=99re so proud and happy
>
> Gary Boothe
> Cool, Ca.
> Pietenpol
> WW Corvair Conversion, mounted
> Tail done, Fuselage on gear
> (18 ribs down)
>
> Do not archive
>
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-
> pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of helspersew@aol.com
> Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 5:20 PM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Quell those fears- shoulder interference
> with coaming leather
>
>
> Hello all you good people, (an assumption)
>
> There was a question raised, about how one's shoulders and upper
> torso would interfere with the "pit"- shaped leather that forms the
> oval perimeter of the coaming on the Piet. Here is a photo of how it
> looks on a handsome, 150 lb. man, 5'-8" tall.
>
> Dan Helsper
> Poplar Grove, IL
>
> please archive... very important
>
>
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Subject: | Quell those fears- shoulder interference with coaming |
leather
That is one good-looking guy alright, but I think he's the guy who told
Dorothy to follow the yellow brick road.
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
helspersew@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 5:20 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Quell those fears- shoulder interference with
coaming leather
Hello all you good people, (an assumption)
There was a question raised, about how one's shoulders and upper torso would
interfere with the "pit"- shaped leather that forms the oval perimeter of
the coaming on the Piet. Here is a photo of how it looks on a handsome, 150
lb. man, 5'-8" tall.
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL
please archive... very important
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Subject: | Re: Quell those fears- shoulder interference with coaming |
leathe
You mean this guy? Yeah, 5' 8" seems about right, but I'm think he's fudging a
bit on the 150# comment.
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Subject: | Re: Quell those fears- shoulder interference with coaming |
leathe
Dan; I'm actually kind of surprised that you sit so low in the cockpit. I don't
have my airplane here at the moment or I'd go out and check, but it seems like
I sit quite a bit higher in the cockpit than your picture shows. Your cockpit
looks like a GREAT fit!
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Oscar Zuniga
San Antonio, TX
Air Camper NX41CC
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Subject: | Re: Quell those fears- shoulder interference with coaming |
leathe
I've got to agree with that... I'm pretty sure I'll be sticking waaay out, but
dang it would be cool to be tucked down in there like you are. Might actually
make it seem like "getting in" rather than "putting it on."
taildrags wrote:
> Dan; I'm actually kind of surprised that you sit so low in the cockpit. I don't
have my airplane here at the moment or I'd go out and check, but it seems
like I sit quite a bit higher in the cockpit than your picture shows. Your cockpit
looks like a GREAT fit!
--------
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Subject: | how did you fall in love Jack |
My first post to this list was on September 27,
2001. Yes, that was only two weeks or so after
the attacks on 9/11. I had only owned my own
set of authentic Pietenpol family plans for a
few weeks and was fully engulfed in the Piet
mystique and appeal, and wanted to learn every
thing I could about the airplane. I pulled
out all of my old Sport Aviation magazines
and everything else I could find on the Piet,
and it was still not enough so I searched the
net and found this list. My life has never
been the same since. It was here on the list
that I found Corky Corbett, and here that I
happened to be in the right place at the right
time to receive the handoff of NX41CC from
Corky's hands to mine. What a joy, what a
blessing Corky and his airplane have been to me
and to my aviating life.
To go back just a little, I was introduced to
the Piet by Ernie Moreno. I was living in
Oregon in 2001 and Ernie had come down to Medford
to look over my Flying Squirrel project as an
EAA Tech Counselor. I was immediately taken with
Ernie and his genuine friendliness and his
willingness to help me with my project, so when he
extended an invitation for me to visit his place
at Independence Airpark, I took him up on it and
my friend Paul Martin, my daughter Janna and I
flew up in Paul's Tri-Pacer to see Ernie's hangar
and the EAA chapter's "Noon Patrol" Nieuport
projects one weekend. Inside Ernie's hangar I saw
his Piet and it was a downhill slide into Pietenpol
bliss from that moment on. Just check out my
facial expressions while sitting in Ernie's airplane
here: http://www.flysquirrel.net/piets/piets.html
So that's my Valentine's Day love story!
What's yours?
Oscar Zuniga
Air Camper NX41CC
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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Subject: | Re: how did you fall in love Jack |
Wow, Oscar that was a long time ago. Still remember the day you came up from
Medford. You were like a little kid in a candy shop. Well, the Piet lives on
with a new overhaul on the old Franklin. I am currently finishing up a EAA
project, the Indy Flyer . Will be doing the final build day with W&B next
Tuesday and on to next project build (possible six DH-2s group build). Have
located a Ford engine for the Piet's next adventure. After all it's sea
level here. Thanks for the pics...
Ernie Moreno
----- Original Message -----
From: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 7:25 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: how did you fall in love Jack
>
>
> My first post to this list was on September 27,
> 2001. Yes, that was only two weeks or so after
> the attacks on 9/11. I had only owned my own
> set of authentic Pietenpol family plans for a
> few weeks and was fully engulfed in the Piet
> mystique and appeal, and wanted to learn every
> thing I could about the airplane. I pulled
> out all of my old Sport Aviation magazines
> and everything else I could find on the Piet,
> and it was still not enough so I searched the
> net and found this list. My life has never
> been the same since. It was here on the list
> that I found Corky Corbett, and here that I
> happened to be in the right place at the right
> time to receive the handoff of NX41CC from
> Corky's hands to mine. What a joy, what a
> blessing Corky and his airplane have been to me
> and to my aviating life.
>
> To go back just a little, I was introduced to
> the Piet by Ernie Moreno. I was living in
> Oregon in 2001 and Ernie had come down to Medford
> to look over my Flying Squirrel project as an
> EAA Tech Counselor. I was immediately taken with
> Ernie and his genuine friendliness and his
> willingness to help me with my project, so when he
> extended an invitation for me to visit his place
> at Independence Airpark, I took him up on it and
> my friend Paul Martin, my daughter Janna and I
> flew up in Paul's Tri-Pacer to see Ernie's hangar
> and the EAA chapter's "Noon Patrol" Nieuport
> projects one weekend. Inside Ernie's hangar I saw
> his Piet and it was a downhill slide into Pietenpol
> bliss from that moment on. Just check out my
> facial expressions while sitting in Ernie's airplane
> here: http://www.flysquirrel.net/piets/piets.html
>
> So that's my Valentine's Day love story!
> What's yours?
>
> Oscar Zuniga
> Air Camper NX41CC
> San Antonio, TX
> mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
> website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Quell those fears- shoulder interference with |
coaming leathe
Well, I'm 5' 8" also and 155 lb. I sit almost exactly the
same with a 1" foam on the seat.
Clif
"My soul is in the sky." ~ William Shakespeare
>
> I've got to agree with that... I'm pretty sure I'll be sticking waaay out,
> >
> taildrags wrote:
>> Dan; I'm actually kind of surprised that you sit so low in the cockpit.
>> I don't have my airplane here at the moment or I'd go out and check, but
>> it seems like I sit quite a bit higher in the cockpit than your picture
>> shows. Your cockpit looks like a GREAT fit!
>
>
> --------
> Mark - working on wings
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=286892#286892
>
>
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