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1. 04:25 AM - vertical stab flexible at front end (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation])
2. 05:00 AM - Re: e-mail question (Kip and Beth Gardner)
3. 05:57 AM - Howard Henderson's Piet (Oscar Zuniga)
4. 05:57 AM - Re: vertical stab flexible at front end (Michael Perez)
5. 06:05 AM - Re: good books (Bill Church)
6. 06:24 AM - Re: Re: good books (Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG NGB)
7. 09:25 AM - Re: Coveralls and Flitzer group-nice one Larry ! (taildrags)
8. 10:02 AM - Re: Just Hello (V Groah)
9. 01:39 PM - Re: Just Hello (Don Emch)
10. 05:47 PM - Construction Photos (kevinpurtee)
11. 06:42 PM - Re: Just Hello (VanDy)
12. 07:49 PM - Re: Coveralls and Flitzer group-nice one Larry ! (ldmill)
13. 08:41 PM - First Major Milestone (K5YAC)
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| Subject: | vertical stab flexible at front end |
Mike,
You write: "now that I have it all bolted to the
>fuse and have my newly made brace cables in place, everything seems
>solid...except for when I grab the leading edge of the vert. and push
>sideways on it, then it flexes/twists."
Mike-- simple solution. Don't push on it. Not trying to be smart but
seriously, many parts of the plane flex and are meant to like wings on an
airliner flex way up under flight loads and move around in turbulence.
The photo Oscar shows is fully acceptable but isn't the norm and might be a GN-1
tail from the looks of the wide gaps and eye bolt hinge types (as found on GN-1's)
Much of the structure will tighten up greatly after fabric and paint have been
applied
too. Also if you go with the two-fitting location on the vertical fin you'll have
two
fittings more, two more bolts, nuts and washers that you don't need as well.
Just
my thoughts. Either installation is totally acceptable though. I simply wouldn't
worry the flex. Hundreds of Piets are flying with the single, rearward attach
point
to the fin with no problems.
Mike C.
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| Subject: | Re: e-mail question |
Mikee,
Queen Rite Colonies Bee Supply in Spencer, OH :)
A whole new fashion trend!
Kip Gardner
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On Mar 4, 2010, at 11:15 PM, Clif Dawson wrote:
> Your local beekeeper supply probably does.
> Poor Mike. Shot down in flames! :-)
> I feel for you buddy. You should arrive at Broadhead
> with one of these. That'll fix em!
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> Hmmm=85I wonder if Amazon sells pith helmets ?
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| Subject: | Howard Henderson's Piet |
Mike King wrote-
>There is a Piet.....complete with Ford engine
>and Air Camper logo.... at nearby Rockport Airport.
>It is a beautiful plane and we plan on flying
>around South Texas and along the Gulf Coast
>beachline soon.
Yes, that is Ron Hollmer's Ford A-powered Piet,
also known as Howard Henderson's Piet since he
built it. N444MH. Some excellent pix of the
airplane at www.westcoastpiet.com (of course).
Oscar Zuniga
Air Camper NX41CC
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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| Subject: | Re: vertical stab flexible at front end |
I wondered about how the fabric would help. Since I have not done any fabri
c work, I just didn't know.- You know me...I save weight every place I ca
n and I did think about the added brackets, bolts, nuts, etc.!
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"Mike-- simple solution.- Don't push on it."- I laughed when I read thi
s...sounds like something I would say.--
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I guess since I already have my cables all made and I would need to buy mor
e terminal ends and make new shorter cables if I moved the front ones, I'll
leave it.- I may add the spacer/plywood in the location of where that fr
ont fitting would go, then after-covering and flying,-if I wanted to ch
ange the cables, I would just need to drill the holes and make the fittings
.
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Not to get nit-picky (well, maybe I am) but, the the air base in Goose Bay is actually
in Labrador, not Greenland.
Now, since I retrieved this bit of information about Labrador, does that make me
an "information about Labrador retriever"?
Dan wrote:
Hassel went on to serve in WWII, establishing the all-important air base in Goose
Bay, Greenland.
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I would suggest that you seek out some of the little books written by local aviators.
For example Jimmy Hays was an Oklahoma Farmer who wrote a small Magazine sized
book about his experiences. He helped establish the flying farmers organization
and was very active in various organizations. He was in early air races with
Jimmy Dolittle and others of similar fame. His book is a great read. One of my
favorite stories is his prop coming to pieces during an air race. He put the
plane in a field, pulled the prop and got a ride to the finish line, arriving
with the prop on his shoulder. Jimmy Dolittle beat him that time.
These books are often hard to find. Besides who knows what is out there. But they
often have great stories.
Blue Skies,
Steve D
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From: Bill Church <billspiet@sympatico.ca>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: good books
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> Not to get nit-picky (well, maybe I am) but, the the air base in Goose Bay is
actually in Labrador, not Greenland.
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> Now, since I retrieved this bit of information about Labrador, does that make
me an "information about Labrador retriever"?
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> Dan wrote:
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> Hassel went on to serve in WWII, establishing the all-important air base in Goose
Bay, Greenland.
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| Subject: | Re: Coveralls and Flitzer group-nice one Larry ! |
Gee... nobody picked up on the fact that the photo I posted was of Irene Englund,
a Texan who was a WASP in WWII, flew the B-24, and was still flying in her
80s...
http://www.arlingtoncemetery.net/ikenglund.htm
Wooden airplanes, iron men... and women with wings!
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Oscar Zuniga
San Antonio, TX
Air Camper NX41CC
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Where in the country are you located? We have a corvair piet in the build
stage out west in ca. Vic NX414MV
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> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Just Hello
> From: matthew.vandervort@gmail.com
> Date: Thu=2C 4 Mar 2010 19:17:20 -0800
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
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> Noticed there wasn't a "newbie" type thread so here is my first attempt a
t contributing to the site.
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> I've been lurking for awhile now=2C and doing my best to soak up all the
knowledge here=2C just thought i would say hello.
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> I'm Matthew VanDervort and have a pretty good corvair Piet rebuild lined
up.
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> other then this thread I will only throw in my two cents when I have some
thing relative to add!
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> And want to let everyone here know how much i appreciate the knowledge ba
se that is here already! and I hoope to contribute to it soon.
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Is that Big Jim's Piet by any chance?
Don Emch
NX899DE
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| Subject: | Construction Photos |
Hi - I haven't been able to get ahold of the (sainted) west coast piet webmaster
to post construction photos of NX899KP. The Girl taught me how to post photos
on a google blog. Here's the link:
http://nx899kp.blogspot.com/
I'll continue to add pictures as I can. If I have any notes I put them as comments.
Best regards,
Kevin Purtee
NX899KP
Austin/Georgetown
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Pieti that sounds great! I'm super busy right now with trying to buy a house and
all, i think all the signing im having to do is giving me carpel tunnel!
Don,
Yep it sure, is. Big Jim, known as Grandpa to me lol. I'm getting a house
with a barn just big enough to rebuild it in, and it definetly needs the attention,
so once the house is settled into i plan on starting into it pretty quick!
Right now I am living in Cincinnati ohio, and moving to Troy, Ohio (Old Waco Factory
area) first of next month if all goes well.
And i can not wait to get started!
Hoping the weather holds out for Tuesday so I can get the ole TCraft out and knock
the cobwebs off!
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| Subject: | Re: Coveralls and Flitzer group-nice one Larry ! |
It always amazes me to read the life story of incredible people like this, and
saddened to see them pass. Thanks Oscar for the info.
Lorin Miller
fyi - watched a good "bogie and bacall" movie last night from 1944 (To Have and
Have Not). That, was acting.
taildrags wrote:
> Gee... nobody picked up on the fact that the photo I posted was of Irene Englund,
a Texan who was a WASP in WWII, flew the B-24, and was still flying in her
80s...
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> http://www.arlingtoncemetery.net/ikenglund.htm
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> Wooden airplanes, iron men... and women with wings!
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Lorin Miller
Waiex N81YX
Pietenpol next up
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| Subject: | First Major Milestone |
I'm not sure if this is actually a milestone, but I'm feeling pretty good about
it. I took my left wing panel off the jig today and trial fit the aileron.
Today was one of the first really nice days we have had in a long time, so I took
my wing panel outside and set it on saw horses so I could look it over in
the sun light. It all looks good so far. I still need to install control pulleys
and LE sheeting, but the framework is complete.
We measured the dimensions (front to rear spar - tip to root) and found that there
is less than 1/8" difference in the measurements. I was told that is pretty
good.
I also wanted to check my jig with the water level before to starting the right
wing panel... it hasn't moved since we locked it down, prior to starting assembly
on the let panel.
Here are a few photos.
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Mark - working on wings
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