---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 03/05/10: 13 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:25 AM - vertical stab flexible at front end (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]) 2. 05:00 AM - Re: e-mail question (Kip and Beth Gardner) 3. 05:57 AM - Howard Henderson's Piet (Oscar Zuniga) 4. 05:57 AM - Re: vertical stab flexible at front end (Michael Perez) 5. 06:05 AM - Re: good books (Bill Church) 6. 06:24 AM - Re: Re: good books (Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG NGB) 7. 09:25 AM - Re: Coveralls and Flitzer group-nice one Larry ! (taildrags) 8. 10:02 AM - Re: Just Hello (V Groah) 9. 01:39 PM - Re: Just Hello (Don Emch) 10. 05:47 PM - Construction Photos (kevinpurtee) 11. 06:42 PM - Re: Just Hello (VanDy) 12. 07:49 PM - Re: Coveralls and Flitzer group-nice one Larry ! (ldmill) 13. 08:41 PM - First Major Milestone (K5YAC) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:25:05 AM PST US From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]" Subject: Pietenpol-List: vertical stab flexible at front end Mike, You write: "now that I have it all bolted to the >fuse and have my newly made brace cables in place, everything seems >solid...except for when I grab the leading edge of the vert. and push >sideways on it, then it flexes/twists." Mike-- simple solution. Don't push on it. Not trying to be smart but seriously, many parts of the plane flex and are meant to like wings on an airliner flex way up under flight loads and move around in turbulence. The photo Oscar shows is fully acceptable but isn't the norm and might be a GN-1 tail from the looks of the wide gaps and eye bolt hinge types (as found on GN-1's) Much of the structure will tighten up greatly after fabric and paint have been applied too. Also if you go with the two-fitting location on the vertical fin you'll have two fittings more, two more bolts, nuts and washers that you don't need as well. Just my thoughts. Either installation is totally acceptable though. I simply wouldn't worry the flex. Hundreds of Piets are flying with the single, rearward attach point to the fin with no problems. Mike C. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:00:59 AM PST US From: Kip and Beth Gardner Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: e-mail question Mikee, Queen Rite Colonies Bee Supply in Spencer, OH :) A whole new fashion trend! Kip Gardner do Not Archive On Mar 4, 2010, at 11:15 PM, Clif Dawson wrote: > Your local beekeeper supply probably does. > Poor Mike. Shot down in flames! :-) > I feel for you buddy. You should arrive at Broadhead > with one of these. That'll fix em! > > http://www.kcdawnpatrol.org/machine-gun.htm > > > Mike C. > > Hmmm=85I wonder if Amazon sells pith helmets ? > > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http:// > www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http:// > www.matronics.com/c > > - Release Date: 03/04/10 11:34:00 > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:57:31 AM PST US From: Oscar Zuniga Subject: Pietenpol-List: Howard Henderson's Piet Mike King wrote- >There is a Piet.....complete with Ford engine >and Air Camper logo.... at nearby Rockport Airport. >It is a beautiful plane and we plan on flying >around South Texas and along the Gulf Coast >beachline soon. Yes, that is Ron Hollmer's Ford A-powered Piet, also known as Howard Henderson's Piet since he built it. N444MH. Some excellent pix of the airplane at www.westcoastpiet.com (of course). Oscar Zuniga Air Camper NX41CC San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:57:31 AM PST US From: Michael Perez Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: vertical stab flexible at front end I wondered about how the fabric would help. Since I have not done any fabri c work, I just didn't know.- You know me...I save weight every place I ca n and I did think about the added brackets, bolts, nuts, etc.! - "Mike-- simple solution.- Don't push on it."- I laughed when I read thi s...sounds like something I would say.-- - I guess since I already have my cables all made and I would need to buy mor e terminal ends and make new shorter cables if I moved the front ones, I'll leave it.- I may add the spacer/plywood in the location of where that fr ont fitting would go, then after-covering and flying,-if I wanted to ch ange the cables, I would just need to drill the holes and make the fittings .. - - ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:05:17 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: good books From: "Bill Church" Not to get nit-picky (well, maybe I am) but, the the air base in Goose Bay is actually in Labrador, not Greenland. Now, since I retrieved this bit of information about Labrador, does that make me an "information about Labrador retriever"? Dan wrote: Hassel went on to serve in WWII, establishing the all-important air base in Goose Bay, Greenland. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=289311#289311 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:24:36 AM PST US From: "Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG NGB" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: good books I would suggest that you seek out some of the little books written by local aviators. For example Jimmy Hays was an Oklahoma Farmer who wrote a small Magazine sized book about his experiences. He helped establish the flying farmers organization and was very active in various organizations. He was in early air races with Jimmy Dolittle and others of similar fame. His book is a great read. One of my favorite stories is his prop coming to pieces during an air race. He put the plane in a field, pulled the prop and got a ride to the finish line, arriving with the prop on his shoulder. Jimmy Dolittle beat him that time. These books are often hard to find. Besides who knows what is out there. But they often have great stories. Blue Skies, Steve D ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Church Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: good books > > Not to get nit-picky (well, maybe I am) but, the the air base in Goose Bay is actually in Labrador, not Greenland. > > Now, since I retrieved this bit of information about Labrador, does that make me an "information about Labrador retriever"? > > Dan wrote: > > Hassel went on to serve in WWII, establishing the all-important air base in Goose Bay, Greenland. > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=289311#289311 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 09:25:19 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Coveralls and Flitzer group-nice one Larry ! From: "taildrags" Gee... nobody picked up on the fact that the photo I posted was of Irene Englund, a Texan who was a WASP in WWII, flew the B-24, and was still flying in her 80s... http://www.arlingtoncemetery.net/ikenglund.htm Wooden airplanes, iron men... and women with wings! -------- Oscar Zuniga San Antonio, TX Air Camper NX41CC Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=289324#289324 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 10:02:39 AM PST US From: V Groah Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Just Hello Where in the country are you located? We have a corvair piet in the build stage out west in ca. Vic NX414MV do not archive > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Just Hello > From: matthew.vandervort@gmail.com > Date: Thu=2C 4 Mar 2010 19:17:20 -0800 > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > om> > > Noticed there wasn't a "newbie" type thread so here is my first attempt a t contributing to the site. > > I've been lurking for awhile now=2C and doing my best to soak up all the knowledge here=2C just thought i would say hello. > > I'm Matthew VanDervort and have a pretty good corvair Piet rebuild lined up. > > other then this thread I will only throw in my two cents when I have some thing relative to add! > > And want to let everyone here know how much i appreciate the knowledge ba se that is here already! and I hoope to contribute to it soon. > > > do not archive > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=289285#289285 > > > > > > > =========== =========== =========== =========== > > > _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Free=2C trusted and rich email service. ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 01:39:36 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Just Hello From: "Don Emch" Is that Big Jim's Piet by any chance? Don Emch NX899DE Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=289338#289338 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 05:47:13 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Construction Photos From: "kevinpurtee" Hi - I haven't been able to get ahold of the (sainted) west coast piet webmaster to post construction photos of NX899KP. The Girl taught me how to post photos on a google blog. Here's the link: http://nx899kp.blogspot.com/ I'll continue to add pictures as I can. If I have any notes I put them as comments. Best regards, Kevin Purtee NX899KP Austin/Georgetown Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=289353#289353 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 06:42:35 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Just Hello From: "VanDy" Pieti that sounds great! I'm super busy right now with trying to buy a house and all, i think all the signing im having to do is giving me carpel tunnel! Don, Yep it sure, is. Big Jim, known as Grandpa to me lol. I'm getting a house with a barn just big enough to rebuild it in, and it definetly needs the attention, so once the house is settled into i plan on starting into it pretty quick! Right now I am living in Cincinnati ohio, and moving to Troy, Ohio (Old Waco Factory area) first of next month if all goes well. And i can not wait to get started! Hoping the weather holds out for Tuesday so I can get the ole TCraft out and knock the cobwebs off! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=289357#289357 ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 07:49:03 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Coveralls and Flitzer group-nice one Larry ! From: "ldmill" It always amazes me to read the life story of incredible people like this, and saddened to see them pass. Thanks Oscar for the info. Lorin Miller fyi - watched a good "bogie and bacall" movie last night from 1944 (To Have and Have Not). That, was acting. taildrags wrote: > Gee... nobody picked up on the fact that the photo I posted was of Irene Englund, a Texan who was a WASP in WWII, flew the B-24, and was still flying in her 80s... > > http://www.arlingtoncemetery.net/ikenglund.htm > > Wooden airplanes, iron men... and women with wings! -------- Lorin Miller Waiex N81YX Pietenpol next up Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=289363#289363 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 08:41:19 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: First Major Milestone From: "K5YAC" I'm not sure if this is actually a milestone, but I'm feeling pretty good about it. I took my left wing panel off the jig today and trial fit the aileron. Today was one of the first really nice days we have had in a long time, so I took my wing panel outside and set it on saw horses so I could look it over in the sun light. It all looks good so far. I still need to install control pulleys and LE sheeting, but the framework is complete. We measured the dimensions (front to rear spar - tip to root) and found that there is less than 1/8" difference in the measurements. I was told that is pretty good. I also wanted to check my jig with the water level before to starting the right wing panel... it hasn't moved since we locked it down, prior to starting assembly on the let panel. 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