Pietenpol-List Digest Archive

Tue 03/16/10


Total Messages Posted: 24



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 12:54 AM - Re: Re: Front fuse question (Clif Dawson)
     2. 05:35 AM - Re: Ranger Power - (was) Front fuse question (Clif Dawson)
     3. 05:54 AM - Re: Re: 1/2" web  (Jack Phillips)
     4. 06:48 AM - covering (Gary Boothe)
     5. 06:52 AM - Re: Suzuki engine for only $17,000 ! (Jim Ash)
     6. 06:53 AM - Re: Front fuse question (TOM STINEMETZE)
     7. 06:55 AM - Not a honey-do (Clif Dawson)
     8. 08:02 AM - Re: V speeds (Dan Yocum)
     9. 10:48 AM - Re: Ranger Power - (was) Front fuse question (Tim Willis)
    10. 12:10 PM - Re: Suzuki engine for only $17,000 ! (Rick Holland)
    11. 12:10 PM - Re: covering (Rick Holland)
    12. 01:19 PM - Re: covering (taildrags)
    13. 02:05 PM - Re: Re: covering (Mike)
    14. 02:15 PM - Elevator Control Horn Bending (chase143(at)aol.com)
    15. 02:55 PM - Re: Re: covering (Jeff Boatright)
    16. 02:55 PM - Re: Suzuki engine for only $17,000 ! (Jack)
    17. 03:00 PM - Re: Suzuki engine for only $17,000 ! (Mike)
    18. 03:26 PM - Re: Elevator Control Horn Bending (Catdesigns)
    19. 03:38 PM - Re: Front fuse question (Jim Ash)
    20. 03:51 PM - Re: Elevator Control Horn Bending (Jim Markle)
    21. 04:08 PM - Re: Re: Front fuse question (Clif Dawson)
    22. 04:11 PM - Re: Re: covering (Rick Holland)
    23. 06:12 PM - Re: Suzuki engine for only $17,000 ! (airlion)
    24. 07:10 PM - Re: Front fuse question (dgaldrich)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:54:29 AM PST US
    From: "Clif Dawson" <CDAWSON5854@shaw.ca>
    Subject: Re: Front fuse question
    No pedals! What do you think this is, a pedal plane! :-) Unfortunately very few folks will prop you now and those that will "give it a try" might wind up dead or worse. Clif > > Real Piets don't need batteries ;o) (although some purists would say, > 'real Piets use antifreeze'). > > Very nice work though! Interesting that you have a rudder bar in the > front cockpit. Does that mean you used individual pedals in the pilot's > cockpit? > > -------- > Oscar Zuniga > San Antonio, TX > Air Camper NX41CC > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=290370#290370 > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 12:33:00


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    Time: 05:35:06 AM PST US
    From: "Clif Dawson" <CDAWSON5854@shaw.ca>
    Subject: Re: Ranger Power - (was) Front fuse question
    Here's a couple of pics of the ceramic/bolt through fitting. Clif "Imagination decides everything." ~ Blaise Pascal


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    Time: 05:54:23 AM PST US
    From: "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: 1/2" web
    I routed my rear spar. Both my spars are =BE=94 but the rear spar I routed down to =BD=94 thick in the middle. I calculated the weight savings and confirmed it by weighing the spars before and after. The weight savings was 1.89 lbs just for the two rear spars. For a 1=94 spar the savings would be substantial. Jack Phillips NX899JP Raleigh, NC _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gene Rambo Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2010 9:47 AM Subject: Re: Re: Pietenpol-List: 1/2" web About a year ago when I priced it from both Wicks and Aircraft Spruce, the cost of the 1/2" center with four 1" x 1/4" capstrips was more than the cost of the solid spars, so I went solid and routed. Of course, the plywood center web may be cheaper, I did not price that. One question I could never get a good answer to is how/where the proper splices would be (building a one-piece wing). I would think that they could be anywhere as long as they were staggered. Of course, this would not be a problem if building a 3-piece where all of the components could be full length without splices. I like the built-up spars, the examples on here are beautiful, but cheaper and more original won out. Unfortunately, I did not weigh before and after routing, but I can tell you that the weight saving is substantial, not miniscule as some on here have suggested. Pietenpol says 25% and I think that is probably right. If it is wrong, it is low. Gene


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    Time: 06:48:26 AM PST US
    From: "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net>
    Subject: covering
    Clif, Just wondering...are you going to remove all the engine stuff and firewall to get a wrap-around on your fabric? Gary Boothe Cool, CA Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion Tail done, Fuselage on gear 18 ribs done -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Clif Dawson Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 1:07 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Ranger Power - (was) Front fuse question Here's a couple of pics of the ceramic/bolt through fitting. Clif "Imagination decides everything." ~ Blaise Pascal


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    Time: 06:52:55 AM PST US
    From: Jim Ash <ashcan@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Suzuki engine for only $17,000 !
    If you're going to send pictures, please send one of the people lined up around the block to buy this one. Jim -----Original Message----- From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]" Sent: Mar 15, 2010 12:22 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Suzuki engine for only $17,000 ! What a deal !!!! SUZUKI 2.7 FOR T-51 $17,000 REDUCED FOR QUICK SALE For Sale Suzuki 2.7 with belt reduction drive with heavy duty motor mounts that fits the Titan T-51. Includes dual alternators, carbon fiber intake, computer and hookup wires, heat coated exhaust plus more. Engine is a 2003 with 19,800 miles. Contact Larry L. Lund, Owner - located Sleepy Eye, MN USA Telephone: 5077947665 Posted March 7, 2010 Show all Ads posted by this Advertiser Recommend This Ad to a Friend Email Advertiser Save to Watchlist Report This Ad View Larger Pictures


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    Time: 06:53:09 AM PST US
    From: "TOM STINEMETZE" <TOMS@mcpcity.com>
    Subject: Re: Front fuse question
    Yes, Rick. As it says in my 4th grade English book: "A preposition is not the correct word to end a sentence with." 8>] Stinemetze >>> Rick Holland <at7000ft@gmail.com> 3/15/2010 12:13 PM >>> That bottom front piece just provides more surface to glue the bottom of the firewall to. (Sorry about ending that sentence with a preposition but I am too lazy right now to make it grammatically correct).


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    Time: 06:55:29 AM PST US
    From: "Clif Dawson" <CDAWSON5854@shaw.ca>
    Subject: Not a honey-do
    Now who doesn't need one of these? Clif


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    Time: 08:02:43 AM PST US
    From: Dan Yocum <yocum@fnal.gov>
    Subject: Re: V speeds
    N8031, empty weight 710, gross weight 1200. Vx - 49mph (GPS) Vy - 59mph (GPS) Vne - 120mph (what the builder felt like putting down - he had it up to 140mph in the logs) Vs - ?? (I should check, but I'm guessing it's about 35mph) The best place to put the static and pitot is in clear flowing air away from things like wings, struts, fuselage, etc. Jacks' is probably the best place I've seen on a Piet, way out in the front of the wing away from obstructions and things that could mess with the air pressures. On glass gliders, since there's no engine to disrupt the flow of air over the fuse, static ports are generally about 1/2 back, flush with the side. The pitot is generally in the nose, though there are clear warnings on such gliders like Schleicher ASK-21 that if you're going to fly inverted, then you need to attach the extension tube to make sure that the pitot is out in there in the clear air. On 03/13/2010 07:23 PM, Jeff Boatright wrote: > > Just because it's too windy and rainy to fly today, I'm goint to stir > the pot: > > What are you using for Vso, Vx, Vy, Vno, Vne, Vref, Va, etc. and what > are your numbers based on? > > -- Dan Yocum Fermilab 630.840.6509 yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."


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    Time: 10:48:18 AM PST US
    From: Tim Willis <timothywillis@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Ranger Power - (was) Front fuse question
    Clif, I must have missed this discussion. It looks slick. Is this the wiring on the "hot" side to your starter solenoid, and how you have insulated the hot from the firewall, which may be intentionally "ground"? Tim in central TX -----Original Message----- >From: Clif Dawson <CDAWSON5854@shaw.ca> >Sent: Mar 16, 2010 4:07 AM >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Ranger Power - (was) Front fuse question > >Here's a couple of pics of the ceramic/bolt through fitting. > >Clif > >"Imagination decides everything." ~ Blaise Pascal


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    Time: 12:10:02 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Suzuki engine for only $17,000 !
    From: Rick Holland <at7000ft@gmail.com>
    Wow, wonder what it weights. Would those 6 exhausts per side look cool hanging out each side of a Piet cowling? rick On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 10:22 AM, Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation] <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov> wrote: > What a deal !!!! > > *SUZUKI 2.7 FOR T-51*<http://barnstormers.com/classified_382836_Suzuki+2. 7+for+T-51.html>- $17,000 - > *REDUCED FOR QUICK SALE* - For Sale Suzuki 2.7 with belt reduction driv e > with heavy duty motor mounts that fits the Titan T-51. Includes dual > alternators, carbon fiber intake, computer and hookup wires, heat coated > exhaust plus more. Engine is a 2003 with 19,800 miles. - Contact *Larry L. > Lund*<http://barnstormers.com/contact_seller.php?to=48047&id=382836&t itle=Suzuki+2.7+for+T-51&return=%2Fad_manager%2Fmy_ads.php>, > Owner - located Sleepy Eye, MN USA - Telephone: 5077947665 - Posted M arch 7, > 2010 - *Show all Ads posted by this Advertiser*<http://barnstormers.com /listing.php?mode=usersearch&user=48047>- > *Recommend This Ad to a Friend*<http://barnstormers.com/recommend.php?id =382836&title=Suzuki+2.7+for+T-51>- > *Email Advertiser*<http://barnstormers.com/contact_seller.php?to=48047& id=382836&title=Suzuki+2.7+for+T-51&return=%2Fad_manager%2Fmy_ads.php >- > *Save to Watchlist*<http://barnstormers.com/ad_manager/watchlist.php?ADD =382836>- > *Report This Ad*<http://barnstormers.com/report_ad.php?id=382836&title =Suzuki+2.7+for+T-51>- > *View Larger Pictures*<http://barnstormers.com/ad_detail.php?ID=382836& go_to_images=1> > <http://barnstormers.com/ad_detail.php?ID=382836&go_to_images=1> <http://barnstormers.com/ad_detail.php?ID=382836&go_to_images=1> <http ://barnstormers.com/ad_detail.php?ID=382836&go_to_images=1> > > -- Rick Holland Castle Rock, Colorado "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"


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    Time: 12:10:55 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: covering
    From: Rick Holland <at7000ft@gmail.com>
    Great question, I am also ready to remove my engine and start fuselage covering. Would be easier to not unbolt all that stuff from the firewall and remove the stainless firewall cover and wiring. rick On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 6:52 AM, Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote: > > Clif, > > Just wondering...are you going to remove all the engine stuff and firewall > to get a wrap-around on your fabric? > > Gary Boothe > Cool, CA > Pietenpol > WW Corvair Conversion > Tail done, Fuselage on gear > 18 ribs done > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Clif Dawson > Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 1:07 AM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Ranger Power - (was) Front fuse question > > Here's a couple of pics of the ceramic/bolt through fitting. > > Clif > > "Imagination decides everything." ~ Blaise Pascal > > -- Rick Holland Castle Rock, Colorado "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"


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    Time: 01:19:48 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: covering
    From: "taildrags" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
    The fabric on 41CC wraps around the front, under the metal firewall. I guess you could cement the fabric to the sides without wrapping it "around the corner" on the front though. -------- Oscar Zuniga San Antonio, TX Air Camper NX41CC Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=290473#290473


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    Time: 02:05:30 PM PST US
    From: "Mike" <papa.bike.mike@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: covering
    Oscar, I don't think you want to have any glued fabric edges facing into the wind. Mike -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of taildrags Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 12:17 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: covering --> <taildrags@hotmail.com> The fabric on 41CC wraps around the front, under the metal firewall. I guess you could cement the fabric to the sides without wrapping it "around the corner" on the front though. -------- Oscar Zuniga San Antonio, TX Air Camper NX41CC Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=290473#290473


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    Time: 02:15:04 PM PST US
    Subject: Elevator Control Horn Bending
    From: "chase143(at)aol.com" <chase143@aol.com>
    Any pics for a jig to bend the edges of the elev control horns, accurately? I've got the standard two blocks of wood, which is always the most fun. Just wondering if a bead roller is necessary to obtain a more accurate bend for welding? Thanks, Steve -------- Steve www.mypiet.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=290483#290483


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    Time: 02:55:05 PM PST US
    From: Jeff Boatright <jboatri@emory.edu>
    Subject: Re: covering
    The fabric on our Piet also wraps. The overlap onto the front is about four inches of fabric; the fabric does not cover the entire surface of the front piece. > >The fabric on 41CC wraps around the front, under the metal firewall. >I guess you could cement the fabric to the sides without wrapping it >"around the corner" on the front though. > >-------- >Oscar Zuniga >San Antonio, TX >Air Camper NX41CC > -- Jeff Boatright "Now let's think about this..."


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    Time: 02:55:05 PM PST US
    From: "Jack" <jack@textors.com>
    Subject: Suzuki engine for only $17,000 !
    How bout this one Mike.I'm sticking with my C-85 Well this is a fully rebuilt Kawasaki air craft engine. its 100 plus hp. comes with variable pitch prop. the motor has only a few hours on the rebuild. composite prob. would be perfect for a small aircraft, or a fanboat. Open to trades but i don't want any junk. This baby is ready to run with all the electronics to make it fire! Text or call Mitch @ 515-979-9808 image 1635398417-1 Do not archive Jack Textor 29 SW 58th Drive Des Moines, IA 50312 www.textors.com _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation] Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 10:23 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Suzuki engine for only $17,000 ! What a deal !!!! <http://barnstormers.com/classified_382836_Suzuki+2.7+for+T-51.html> SUZUKI 2.7 FOR T-51 . $17,000 . REDUCED FOR QUICK SALE . For Sale Suzuki 2.7 with belt reduction drive with heavy duty motor mounts that fits the Titan T-51. Includes dual alternators, carbon fiber intake, computer and hookup wires, heat coated exhaust plus more. Engine is a 2003 with 19,800 miles. . Contact <http://barnstormers.com/contact_seller.php?to=48047&id=382836&title=Suzuki+ 2.7+for+T-51&return=%2Fad_manager%2Fmy_ads.php> Larry L. Lund, Owner - located Sleepy Eye, MN USA . Telephone: 5077947665 . Posted March 7, 2010 . <http://barnstormers.com/listing.php?mode=usersearch&user=48047> Show all Ads posted by this Advertiser . <http://barnstormers.com/recommend.php?id=382836&title=Suzuki+2.7+for+T-51> Recommend This Ad to a Friend . <http://barnstormers.com/contact_seller.php?to=48047&id=382836&title=Suzuki+ 2.7+for+T-51&return=%2Fad_manager%2Fmy_ads.php> Email Advertiser . <http://barnstormers.com/ad_manager/watchlist.php?ADD=382836> Save to Watchlist . <http://barnstormers.com/report_ad.php?id=382836&title=Suzuki+2.7+for+T-51> Report This Ad . <http://barnstormers.com/ad_detail.php?ID=382836&go_to_images=1> View Larger Pictures <http://barnstormers.com/ad_detail.php?ID=382836&go_to_images=1> <http://barnstormers.com/ad_detail.php?ID=382836&go_to_images=1> <http://barnstormers.com/ad_detail.php?ID=382836&go_to_images=1>


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    Time: 03:00:48 PM PST US
    From: "Mike" <papa.bike.mike@gmail.com>
    Subject: Suzuki engine for only $17,000 !
    Amazing. You can buy the whole car for less than $6000. (2003 Grand Vitara). Maybe he meant $1700. _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick Holland Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 3:33 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Suzuki engine for only $17,000 ! Wow, wonder what it weights. Would those 6 exhausts per side look cool hanging out each side of a Piet cowling? rick On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 10:22 AM, Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation] <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov> wrote: What a deal !!!! <http://barnstormers.com/classified_382836_Suzuki+2.7+for+T-51.html> SUZUKI 2.7 FOR T-51 . $17,000 . REDUCED FOR QUICK SALE . For Sale Suzuki 2.7 with belt reduction drive with heavy duty motor mounts that fits the Titan T-51. Includes dual alternators, carbon fiber intake, computer and hookup wires, heat coated exhaust plus more. Engine is a 2003 with 19,800 miles. . Contact <http://barnstormers.com/contact_seller.php?to=48047&id=382836&title=Suzuki+ 2.7+for+T-51&return=%2Fad_manager%2Fmy_ads.php> Larry L. Lund, Owner - located Sleepy Eye, MN USA . Telephone: 5077947665 . Posted March 7, 2010 . <http://barnstormers.com/listing.php?mode=usersearch&user=48047> Show all Ads posted by this Advertiser . <http://barnstormers.com/recommend.php?id=382836&title=Suzuki+2.7+for+T-51> Recommend This Ad to a Friend . <http://barnstormers.com/contact_seller.php?to=48047&id=382836&title=Suzuki+ 2.7+for+T-51&return=%2Fad_manager%2Fmy_ads.php> Email Advertiser . <http://barnstormers.com/ad_manager/watchlist.php?ADD=382836> Save to Watchlist . <http://barnstormers.com/report_ad.php?id=382836&title=Suzuki+2.7+for+T-51> Report This Ad . <http://barnstormers.com/ad_detail.php?ID=382836&go_to_images=1> View Larger Pictures <http://barnstormers.com/ad_detail.php?ID=382836&go_to_images=1> <http://barnstormers.com/ad_detail.php?ID=382836&go_to_images=1> <http://barnstormers.com/ad_detail.php?ID=382836&go_to_images=1> -- Rick Holland Castle Rock, Colorado "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"


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    Time: 03:26:44 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Elevator Control Horn Bending
    From: "Catdesigns" <Catdesigns@att.net>
    Steve My unfinished writeup on making the control horns. http://www.westcoastpiet.com/control_horns.htm more pictures, no text. http://www.westcoastpiet.com/build_pictures_2.htm I will try to finish the writeup but don't hold your breath. Feel free to ask questions. Chris -------- Chris Sacramento, CA WestCoastPiet.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=290502#290502


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    Time: 03:38:33 PM PST US
    From: Jim Ash <ashcan@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Front fuse question
    A preposition is a lousy thing to end a sentence with. Jim -----Original Message----- >From: Rick Holland <at7000ft@gmail.com> >Sent: Mar 15, 2010 1:13 PM >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Front fuse question > > >That bottom front piece just provides more surface to glue the bottom >of the firewall to. (Sorry about ending that sentence with a >preposition but I am too lazy right now to make it grammatically >correct). > > >rick > >On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 7:00 AM, Mark Roberts <mark.rbrts1@gmail.com> wrote: >> Thanks guys. I guess it will all seem strong enough when I build it, but it >> would seem that there would need to be more beef up there for the engine. >> However, Gary, your pictures show it well. I had surfed your spot on West >> coast Piet before posting the question, and that is where I saw the ash >> piece for the first time. >> >> Just a quick follow up: the piece on the bottom of the fuse is there to >> stabilize the flooring I am guessing? It doesn't look like it is glued to >> the metal motor mounts, so I am assuming it doesn't provide the support for >> anything other than stabilizing the plywood at the very end of the >> flooring..? >> >> Thanks for the clarification guys! >> >> Mark >> >> On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 3:42 PM, Rick Holland <at7000ft@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Correct Mark, just the bottom ply, the ash cross member, and then the >>> firewall holds it all together. I also thought it was strange that no >>> front cross members were needed between the top longerons and another >>> between the bottom longerons. And if you are not using a Model A >>> engine even the ash cross member doesn't seem to be needed (but most >>> everyone leaves it in there anyhow), I found it useful for a front >>> fuel tank support and a solid support to attach my battery box on the >>> firewall. >>> >>> rick >>> >>> On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Mark Roberts <mark.rbrts1@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> > OK... After looking at the plans and as many online pics from West Coast >>> > Piet (thanks Chris!) I am finally asking the question here as I can't >>> > figure >>> > it out myself: Besides the 1.25" x1.5" white ash cross member located >>> > (I'm >>> > assuming) approx 4.75" below the top of the Fuse Longerons, what else >>> > holds >>> > the fuse together at the nose? The engine mount brackets line the sides >>> > of >>> > the bottom (and top) longerons, so trying to glue a cross member at the >>> > bottom of the fuse is pointless, and I would think one cross member at >>> > the >>> > nose is not enough. >>> > >>> > I know I am missing it, but is there only one cross member at the nose? >>> > --The white ash piece and plywood covering the bottom? >>> > >>> > I am 'building' mine currently in Sketch Up as I still wait for $$ to >>> > build. >>> > I am just glad I got the plans while I could :o) >>> > >>> > Mark >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Rick Holland >>> Castle Rock, Colorado >>> >>> "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad" >>> >>> ========== >>> enpol-List Email Forum - >>> st" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List >>> ========== >>> http://forums.matronics.com >>> ========== >>> le, List Admin. >>> ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >>> ========== >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >-- >Rick Holland >Castle Rock, Colorado > >"Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad" > >


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    Time: 03:51:53 PM PST US
    From: Jim Markle <jim_markle@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Re: Elevator Control Horn Bending
    The "jig" I used and it worked perfectly, was a really long 1/2" drill bit. A round bar would work just fine also. Also needed a vise but clamped the round bar stock right along the edge to be bent over....with the bar offset enough that one end extends past the bar and the other end is right over the center line of the bar. As you ping the thin metal over the bar the "bent" part (that joins to the other side) gradually has less and less "bend" and is almost flat at one end. This probably doesn't make much sense but if you're interested, I'll make a sketch of how I formed the horns with just a round bar and about 3 minutes of "pinging" with a small hammer. Incredibly simple and far stronger than you can imagine.... jm -----Original Message----- >From: "chase143(at)aol.com" <chase143@aol.com> >Sent: Mar 16, 2010 4:10 PM >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Subject: Pietenpol-List: Elevator Control Horn Bending > > >Any pics for a jig to bend the edges of the elev control horns, accurately? I've got the standard two blocks of wood, which is always the most fun. Just wondering if a bead roller is necessary to obtain a more accurate bend for welding? >Thanks, >Steve > >-------- >Steve >www.mypiet.com > > >Read this topic online here: > >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=290483#290483 > >


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    Time: 04:08:13 PM PST US
    From: "Clif Dawson" <CDAWSON5854@shaw.ca>
    Subject: Re: Front fuse question
    Thanks. I looked at this battery and realized it's completely sealed. "So what's going to leak?" asked inner child. Ah, ha, said outer adult with big smile on face. Besides, there's NO place else to put it! :-) I don't suppose you noticed the bolt with the ceramic bit it goes through, upper left. That's Speed Queen drier element part # RPT12 or #400-32-33. The negative will attach to one of the oil filter bolts on the right and then, engineside, wait a minute! I just realized. I'm using steel braided aeroquip oil lines between engine and filter. I don't have to wire the outside! :-) :-) Clif > > Great idea Cliff, instead of a battery box hanging on the firewall a > battery stand behind it, nice wood work. > > rick >


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    Time: 04:11:13 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: covering
    From: Rick Holland <at7000ft@gmail.com>
    The front edges of the fabric if not glued to the firewall on mine at least would be covered by the cowling. ric On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 2:34 PM, Mike <papa.bike.mike@gmail.com> wrote: > > Oscar, > I don't think you want to have any glued fabric edges facing into the wind. > Mike > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of taildrags > Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 12:17 PM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: covering > > --> <taildrags@hotmail.com> > > The fabric on 41CC wraps around the front, under the metal firewall. I > guess you could cement the fabric to the sides without wrapping it "around > the corner" on the front though. > > -------- > Oscar Zuniga > San Antonio, TX > Air Camper NX41CC > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=290473#290473 > > -- Rick Holland Castle Rock, Colorado "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"


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    Time: 06:12:35 PM PST US
    From: airlion <airlion@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: Suzuki engine for only $17,000 !


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    Time: 07:10:05 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Front fuse question
    From: "dgaldrich" <dgaldrich@embarqmail.com>
    Ending a sentence with a preposition is the kind of pedantry up with which I will not put. Dave Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=290533#290533




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