Today's Message Index:
----------------------
 
     1. 03:38 AM - Re: intercom (Jerry Dotson)
     2. 04:43 AM - Re: Re: GN-1 cabane length (bryan green)
     3. 04:57 AM - Re: Re: intercom (bryan green)
     4. 06:11 AM - cabane length (bryan green)
     5. 06:43 AM - Re: just another idea and concept to ponder (Kip and Beth Gardner)
     6. 07:19 AM - Re: Re: cork float (hvandervoo@aol.com)
     7. 07:44 AM - Re: cork float ()
     8. 07:44 AM -  (Douwe Blumberg)
     9. 07:48 AM - Re: Re: cork float (Rick Holland)
    10. 07:57 AM - Re: Re: intercom (Rick Holland)
    11. 08:03 AM - Re: cork float ()
    12. 08:04 AM - Re: Douwe's Piet (Tim Willis)
    13. 08:05 AM - Re: Re: cork float (Gary Boothe)
    14. 08:12 AM - Re: Re: cork float (Rick Holland)
    15. 08:48 AM - Re: Re: intercom (David Paule)
    16. 09:02 AM - Re: Douwe's Piet (Rick Holland)
    17. 09:07 AM - best fuel float ever (walt)
    18. 09:19 AM - Once again "those amazing Continentals" (walt)
    19. 09:19 AM - Re: Re: cork float (Rick Holland)
    20. 09:19 AM - Re: Re: GN-1 cabane length (Skip Gadd)
    21. 09:51 AM - Re: intercom (K5YAC)
    22. 12:46 PM - Photos (jeff wilson)
    23. 12:59 PM - Re: Photos (Ryan Mueller)
    24. 02:12 PM - simple 1/4" stainless tubing for airspeed pitot tube (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation])
    25. 02:12 PM - Re: cork float (Ryan Mueller)
    26. 02:13 PM - Re: puffs of smoke (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation])
    27. 03:00 PM - Re: cork float (Jack Phillips)
    28. 04:40 PM - Re: intercom (Jerry Dotson)
    29. 05:42 PM - Re: just another idea and concept to ponder (Clif Dawson)
    30. 07:33 PM - Re: Once again "those amazing Continentals" (Mike King)
 
 
 
Message 1
| 					INDEX |  Back to Main INDEX |  
| 					NEXT |  Skip to NEXT Message |  
| 	LIST |  Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |  
| 		SENDER |  Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |  
  | 
      
      
      
      
      David Clark Model H5030 is sound powered. No boxes. Just a coax between the two.
      I have several years experience with them in a noisy 100-110db work area(14,000
      HP engine room). The mouthpiece can be stuffed with cotton and just about
      totally eliminate the background noise. If you are just wanting intercom it can't
      be beat...at least 20 years without failure.
      
      --------
      Jerry Dotson
      59 Daniel Johnson Rd
      Baker, FL 32531
      
      Started building  NX510JD  July, 2009
      Ribs and tailfeathers done
      using Lycoming O-235
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=291020#291020
      
      
Message 2
| 					INDEX |  Back to Main INDEX |  
| 				PREVIOUS |  Skip to PREVIOUS Message |  
| 					NEXT |  Skip to NEXT Message |  
| 	LIST |  Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |  
| 		SENDER |  Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |  
  | 
      
      
| Subject:  | Re: GN-1 cabane length | 
      
      
      My cabanes need rebuilding but are measurable and I will do that and post 
      results today sometime. The picture of mine in flight looks level to me so I 
      will keep the length to start with. I'll post the picture also so you guys 
      can take a look.
      Bryan Green
      Elgin SC
      GN-1 rebuilding
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "coxwelljon" <coxwelljon@frontiernet.net>
      Sent: Friday, March 19, 2010 10:57 PM
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: GN-1 cabane length
      
      
      > <coxwelljon@frontiernet.net>
      >
      >
      > at7000ft wrote:
      >> I have a copy of the newer CAD version of the GN-1 plans, the bottom
      >> bolt to top bolt centerline measurements are 23 1/4" front and 23 1/2"
      >> rear.
      >>
      >> rick
      >>
      >>
      >
      >
      > Rick and others,
      >
      > It looks like the concensus for Piet plans is 1" longer for the front.  I 
      > will have to do some looking at my Piet plans (I have both Piet and GN-1 
      > drawings) and see what 1" does as far as the angle of incidence.  I will 
      > report back.  Seems like with a few GN-1 builders out there it would be 
      > good to settle this as there is no support from Don Grega.
      >
      > --------
      > Jon Coxwell
      > GN-1 Builder
      > Recycle and preserve the planet
      >
      >
      > Read this topic online here:
      >
      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=290993#290993
      >
      >
      > 
      
      
Message 3
| 					INDEX |  Back to Main INDEX |  
| 				PREVIOUS |  Skip to PREVIOUS Message |  
| 					NEXT |  Skip to NEXT Message |  
| 	LIST |  Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |  
| 		SENDER |  Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |  
  | 
      
      
      
      
      My intercom box is from Comtronics and has worked well for years with good 
      mike muffs.
      Bryan Green
      Elgin SC
      GN-1 rebuilding
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "Jerry Dotson" <jdotson@erec.net>
      Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2010 6:38 AM
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: intercom
      
      
      >
      > David Clark Model H5030 is sound powered. No boxes. Just a coax between 
      > the two. I have several years experience with them in a noisy 100-110db 
      > work area(14,000 HP engine room). The mouthpiece can be stuffed with 
      > cotton and just about totally eliminate the background noise. If you are 
      > just wanting intercom it can't be beat...at least 20 years without 
      > failure.
      >
      > --------
      > Jerry Dotson
      > 59 Daniel Johnson Rd
      > Baker, FL 32531
      >
      > Started building  NX510JD  July, 2009
      > Ribs and tailfeathers done
      > using Lycoming O-235
      >
      >
      > Read this topic online here:
      >
      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=291020#291020
      >
      >
      > 
      
      
Message 4
| 					INDEX |  Back to Main INDEX |  
| 				PREVIOUS |  Skip to PREVIOUS Message |  
| 					NEXT |  Skip to NEXT Message |  
| 	LIST |  Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |  
| 		SENDER |  Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |  
  | 
      
      
      
      Mine are all 23.5" hole to hole centers, but I have no idea about the 
      AOI until I set the center section back up and measure.
      Bryan Green
      Elgin SC
      GN-1 rebuilding
      The message is ready to be sent with the following file or link 
      attachments:
      clip_image002
      
Message 5
| 					INDEX |  Back to Main INDEX |  
| 				PREVIOUS |  Skip to PREVIOUS Message |  
| 					NEXT |  Skip to NEXT Message |  
| 	LIST |  Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |  
| 		SENDER |  Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |  
  | 
      
      
| Subject:  | Re: just another idea and concept to ponder | 
      
      I'd be interested in something like this, but not for a year or  
      two.   My two big anxiety areas are metalwork in general, and setting  
      up & trammeling the wings.  Within the year I will have moved my  
      project into a more or less dedicated 24 x 30' workspace right at my  
      house & I expect the pace tpick up quite a bit at that time.
      
      I've actually been hoping to find someone locally who would like to  
      come in as a partner on my project, because I think it's a more  
      sustainable use of resources to share a plane, and i also think the  
      build process would be more fun, but no luck so far.
      
      Kip Gardner
      
      
      On Mar 19, 2010, at 8:00 PM, AMsafetyC@aol.com wrote:
      
      > Hello good people.....
      >
      > A new idea and concept for the group to ponder.
      >
      > As we all know and have recognized we all share a common bond as  
      > fellow lovers of the blue, aviators, builders connected through the  
      > design genius of Bernard Pietenpol and his flying contraption the  
      > aeroplane. We as a collection of builders have at our disposal  
      > some, many and all of the requisite skill levels to construct such  
      > a machine with little assistance or intervention from the outside  
      > world.
      >
      > The there are those who would love to join our ranks but may be  
      > lacking in skills, equipment and time to turn their dream into a  
      > reality. From prints to Piet if you will. We know that everyone has  
      > a skill set that is good in some areas and not so good in others.  
      > Knowing these basic tenants I am curious as to who or what builders  
      > would welcome the talents of other builders equipped with tools and  
      > skills would be interested in having a group of builders show up at  
      > their hanger, barn, basement or garage for a weekend build  
      > utilizing all the skills of the people interested in lending a hand  
      > to accomplish a number of tasks to get the project going bring the  
      > tools to get the certain aspects completed. Woodworkers, metal  
      > workers, mechanical workers and the like showing up to get a build  
      > from a stalled stage to a more accomplished state of being a  
      > Pietenpol.
      >
      > I am speaking about two groups of people, those with the skills and  
      > resources capable of committing to a 2 or 3 day weekend to  
      > participate in building another Piet as one group. The other group  
      > would be a builder or would be builder who in need of assistance in  
      > advancing their project to a next or greater level of completion.
      >
      > This again is but another concept for consideration. For example I  
      > have both tools not all that I need but certainly more than other  
      > that are portable, a trailer to transport them and no skills to  
      > speak of. I also have lodging as in a popup/tent camper to bring to  
      > a build site for a few days to help another builder. There are  
      > others with tools and skills that may also be portable.
      >
      > Through this cooperative of a half dozen or more people who would  
      > be willing to share their time and expertise to get another build  
      > moving and another builder to a next level of completion.
      >
      > I am wonder how many of us would be willing to pitch in for a week  
      > end to help and how many would be interested in receiving those  
      > willing to help.
      >
      > Before I go any further with this concept it would be nice to know  
      > if there is any interest at all in helping or being helped.
      >
      > Just in case you were wondering, I have all of my tools marked for  
      > identification purposes. I know how this works.
      >
      > Helpers bring tools and skills and resources as needed helped  
      > provide a keg on tap burgers and a place for a fire and I think we  
      > are cooking with gas!
      >
      > What say you?
      >
      >
      > John
      >
      >
      
      
Message 6
| 					INDEX |  Back to Main INDEX |  
| 				PREVIOUS |  Skip to PREVIOUS Message |  
| 					NEXT |  Skip to NEXT Message |  
| 	LIST |  Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |  
| 		SENDER |  Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |  
  | 
      
      
      
      
      Don't use Cork.
      
      I used a '65 Ford Mustang Fuel float
      
      If the picture does not show, Google it, you will see a light copper float
       with a provision to wrap around a wire
      
      It is maintenace free, requires no paint, stands up to any fuel and fits
       through a standard fuel filler neck
      
      Hans
      
      NX15KV
      
      
Message 7
| 					INDEX |  Back to Main INDEX |  
| 				PREVIOUS |  Skip to PREVIOUS Message |  
| 					NEXT |  Skip to NEXT Message |  
| 	LIST |  Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |  
| 		SENDER |  Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |  
  | 
      
      
      
      
      DO NOT USE SHELLAC. It is dissolved by alcohol and if you ever happened to use
      auto fuel it may dissolve and redeposit itself someplace else.
      
      ---- Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com> wrote:
      >
      > Shellac?
      >
      > Sent from my iPhone
      >
      > On Mar 19, 2010, at 6:05 PM, airlion <airlion@bellsouth.net> wrote:
      >
      > >
      > > I am making a cork fuel float as a back up for my capacitince gage.
      > > How do I treat the cork so it won't come apart in the fuel? Gardiner
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      >
      >
      
Message 8
| 					INDEX |  Back to Main INDEX |  
| 				PREVIOUS |  Skip to PREVIOUS Message |  
| 					NEXT |  Skip to NEXT Message |  
| 	LIST |  Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |  
| 		SENDER |  Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |  
  | 
      
      
      
      
      Sorry for the big pictures, didn't intend to cause anybody problems.
      
      Thanks for the kudos, they weren't why I sent the pics, but they are
      appreciated.  Once she was together and clean at an actual airfield, it just
      seemd like a formal photo shoot was the closing of one chapter, and getting
      ready to open the next.
      
      Someone asked about paint, I used regular old dope for everything except the
      logo and the gold edging.  I used "one-shot" sign paint for painting the
      logo and edging.  It's all hand painted, and when you get close, you can
      tell.  But I wanted it to look like a couple of kids put it together in
      1933.
      
      Hopefully the weather will give Lowell a couple of days window to get down
      here and do the honors.
      
      Douwe
      
      
Message 9
| 					INDEX |  Back to Main INDEX |  
| 				PREVIOUS |  Skip to PREVIOUS Message |  
| 					NEXT |  Skip to NEXT Message |  
| 	LIST |  Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |  
| 		SENDER |  Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |  
  | 
      
      
      
      
      Thanks for the info Clif, although several people have had no problems
      with shellac and auto fuel this article mentions in several places the
      solubility of shellac in ethanol. Possibly just coating the cork with
      T-88 is the best way to go.
      
      "It is approved by the FDA as a food safe coating when dissolved in
      pure ethanol (not denatured)."
      
      rick
      
      On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 12:20 AM, Clif Dawson <CDAWSON5854@shaw.ca> wrote:
      >
      > Don't forget that the solvent that makes shellac liquid is alcohol,
      > preferably
      > grain alky. So be very careful with auto fuel.
      >
      > http://antiquerestorers.com/Articles/jeff/shellac.htm
      >
      > I had two other really good shellac sites but one got blowed up real good
      > when Geocities melted down and the other just dissappeared!
      >
      > Clif
      >
      >>
      >> HI Rick and all,
      >> I have been told to brush shellac over the cork; a couple of coats and it
      >> is not bothered by the fuel.
      >> Jim
      >
      >
      
      
      -- 
      Rick Holland
      Castle Rock, Colorado
      
      "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"
      
      
Message 10
| 					INDEX |  Back to Main INDEX |  
| 				PREVIOUS |  Skip to PREVIOUS Message |  
| 					NEXT |  Skip to NEXT Message |  
| 	LIST |  Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |  
| 		SENDER |  Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |  
  | 
      
      
      
      
      So the only reason you would need an intercom box and a push to talk
      button is if you want to talk with a passenger and occasionally talk
      on the com radio?
      
      rick
      
      
      On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 4:38 AM, Jerry Dotson <jdotson@erec.net> wrote:
      >
      > David Clark Model H5030 is sound powered. No boxes. Just a coax between the two.
      I have several years experience with them in a noisy 100-110db work area(14,000
      HP engine room). The mouthpiece can be stuffed with cotton and just about
      totally eliminate the background noise. If you are just wanting intercom it
      can't be beat...at least 20 years without failure.
      >
      > --------
      > Jerry Dotson
      > 59 Daniel Johnson Rd
      > Baker, FL 32531
      >
      > Started building NX510JD July, 2009
      > Ribs and tailfeathers done
      > using Lycoming O-235
      >
      >
      > Read this topic online here:
      >
      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=291020#291020
      >
      >
      
      
      -- 
      Rick Holland
      Castle Rock, Colorado
      
      "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"
      
      
Message 11
| 					INDEX |  Back to Main INDEX |  
| 				PREVIOUS |  Skip to PREVIOUS Message |  
| 					NEXT |  Skip to NEXT Message |  
| 	LIST |  Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |  
| 		SENDER |  Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |  
  | 
      
      
      
      
      I would suggest that you take whatever you are considering using, shellac, 
      epoxy or whatever, and coat something with it
      then seal it in a container of gasoline and wait a week then check it for d
      eterioration. I was wondering if maybe you could
      make one out of large diameter copper pipe with caps soldered on the ends. 
      Just an idea.
      
      ---- Jack Phillips <pietflyr@bellsouth.net> wrote:
      >
      I made a float out of fishing rod handlecork rings glued together, and coat
      ed the whole thing with T-88, and then withStits PolyFiber Epoxy Varnish.
      =C2- Works great.=C2- The fishing rod corkrings can be purchased from a
      ny company that sells rod building supplies.=C2-I think I got mine from H
      ook & Hackle:=C2- http://www.hookhack.com/
      =C2-
      Jack Phillips
      NX899JP
      Raleigh, NC
      =C2-
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-lis
      t-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of airlion
      Sent: Friday, March 19, 2010 8:11PM
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: corkfloat
      =C2-
      Rick, I tried a cork the size of a wine cork on a 1/8inwelding rod and it w
      as not enough to float it. Bigger cork maybe? Cheers,Gardiner
      =C2-
      From: H RULE<harvey.rule@rogers.com>
      Sent: Fri, March 19, 2010 7:58:56PM
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: corkfloat
      I=C2-remember seeing someone use a ping pong ball in the past ;shouldbe i
      n th archives
      =C2-
      From: RickHolland <at7000ft@gmail.com>
      Sent: Fri, March 19, 2010 7:38:43PM
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: corkfloat
      
      
      Good question Gardiner, was looking for an answer to that question
      last week. Have a wine cork from a nice 2005 Shiraz on the end of a
      stainless welding rod (to be my sole fuel gauge) and couldn't find a
      thing in any of the 4 Bingelis books (as far as treating the cork with
      anything). Have heard of people coating them with varnish, and have
      seen auto fuel tank floats used in place of cork, any ideas would be
      appreciated.
      
      Rick
      
      On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 5:05 PM, airlion <airlion@bellsouth.net> wrote:
      >
      > I am making a cork fuel float as a back up for my capacitince gage. How d
      oI treat the cork so it won't come apart in the fuel? Gardiner
      >
      >
      
      
      --
      Rick Holland
      Castle Rock, Colorado
      
      "Logic is a wreath of phe many List utilities such as List > http://www.mat
      ronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-Listhttp://www.=========
      ============
      
      
      =C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-<span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black;
      > =================<o:p></o:p></span></fo
      nt></b></pre><pre><b><font
      > size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0
      pt;color:black;bsp; - The Pietenpol-List Email Forum -<span style='font-s
      ize:10.0pt;color:black;
      > browse<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></pre><pre><b><font
      > size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0
      pt;color:black;Un/Subscription,<span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black;
      > Chat, FAQ,<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></pre><pre><b><font
      > size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0
      pt;color:black;more:<span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black;
      > size=2
      > color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:
      black;href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www
      .matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List<span style='font-size:10.0pt;colo
      r:black;
      > size=2
      > color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:
      black;=================<span style='fon
      t-size:10.0pt;color:black;
      > bsp;=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2- - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS -<o:p></o:p></s
      pan></font></b></pre><pre><b><font
      > size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0
      pt;color:black;Forums!<span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black;
      > size=2
      > color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:
      black;href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com<span
       style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black;
      > size=2
      > color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:
      black;=================<span style='fon
      t-size:10.0pt;color:black;
      > bsp;=C2-=C2-=C2- - List Contribution Web Site -<o:p></o:p></span></
      font></b></pre><pre><b><font
      > size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0
      pt;color:black;support!<span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black;
      > bsp;=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2
      -=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2- -Matt Dralle, List Admi
      n.<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></pre><pre><b><font
      > size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0
      pt;color:black;href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.ma
      tronics.com/contribution<span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black;
      > =================<o:p></o:p></span></fo
      nt></b></pre><pre><b><font
      > size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0
      =========
      
Message 12
| 					INDEX |  Back to Main INDEX |  
| 				PREVIOUS |  Skip to PREVIOUS Message |  
| 					NEXT |  Skip to NEXT Message |  
| 	LIST |  Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |  
| 		SENDER |  Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |  
  | 
      
      
| Subject:  | Re: Douwe's Piet | 
      
      
      It looks just gorgeous, Douwe.  And the bigger pix provided more detail, and inspiration
      on "how a Piet SHOULD look!"
      Tim in central TX
      do not archive
      
      -----Original Message-----
      >From: Douwe Blumberg <douweblumberg@earthlink.net>
      >Sent: Mar 20, 2010 9:42 AM
      >To: pietenpolgroup <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
      >Subject: Pietenpol-List: 
      >
      >
      >Sorry for the big pictures, didn't intend to cause anybody problems.
      >
      >Thanks for the kudos, they weren't why I sent the pics, but they are
      >appreciated.  Once she was together and clean at an actual airfield, it just
      >seemd like a formal photo shoot was the closing of one chapter, and getting
      >ready to open the next.
      >
      
      
Message 13
| 					INDEX |  Back to Main INDEX |  
| 				PREVIOUS |  Skip to PREVIOUS Message |  
| 					NEXT |  Skip to NEXT Message |  
| 	LIST |  Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |  
| 		SENDER |  Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |  
  | 
      
      
      
      Here's a link to a retailer for the float Hans is referring to (.to which
      Hans is referring):  http://johnsmustang.com/Parts/details-5899.html 
      
      
      Gary Boothe 
      Cool, Ca. 
      Pietenpol 
      WW Corvair Conversion, mounted 
      Tail done, Fuselage on gear 
      (18 ribs down.) 
      
        _____  
      
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
      hvandervoo@aol.com
      Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2010 7:18 AM
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: cork float
      
      
       FLOAT-FUEL TANK SENDING UNIT
      <http://johnsmustang.com/pictures/classic_mustang/unsorted/200705/c0az-9202-
      b.jpg> 
      
      
      Don't use Cork.
      
      
      I used a '65 Ford Mustang Fuel float
      
      
      If the picture does not show, Google it, you will see a light copper float
      with a provision to wrap around a wire
      
      
      It is maintenace free, requires no paint, stands up to any fuel and fits
      through a standard fuel filler neck
      
      
      Hans
      
      
      NX15KV
      
      
Message 14
| 					INDEX |  Back to Main INDEX |  
| 				PREVIOUS |  Skip to PREVIOUS Message |  
| 					NEXT |  Skip to NEXT Message |  
| 	LIST |  Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |  
| 		SENDER |  Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |  
  | 
      
      
      
      Thank you again for your sound advise Hans, for only $5.95 I will never have
      to worry about alcohol dissolving my shellaced or epoxyied or varnished
      cork, or pieces of cork clogging my fuel filter:
      
      http://www.superiormustangparts.com/proddetail.asp?prod=C0AZ-9202-B
      
      The only advantage of a cork float to a brass float I can think of is you
      don't have to worry about a cork float getting a pin hole and filling with
      fuel. But as someone already mentioned just keep an extra unvented fuel cap
      around and swap caps after each flight, it will be obvious if a leak
      develops.
      
      rick
      
      On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 8:18 AM, <hvandervoo@aol.com> wrote:
      
      > [image: FLOAT-FUEL TANK SENDING UNIT]
      >
      > Don't use Cork.
      >
      > I used a '65 Ford Mustang Fuel float
      >
      > If the picture does not show, Google it, you will see a light copper float
      > with a provision to wrap around a wire
      >
      > It is maintenace free, requires no paint, stands up to any fuel and fits
      > through a standard fuel filler neck
      >
      > Hans
      >
      > NX15KV
      >
      >   *
      >
      > *
      >
      >
      
      
      -- 
      Rick Holland
      Castle Rock, Colorado
      
      "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"
      
Message 15
| 					INDEX |  Back to Main INDEX |  
| 				PREVIOUS |  Skip to PREVIOUS Message |  
| 					NEXT |  Skip to NEXT Message |  
| 	LIST |  Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |  
| 		SENDER |  Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |  
  | 
      
      
      
      
      Had a Gosport system - look it up - when I learned aerobatics in a Stearman. 
      Worked quite well. No batteries or black boxes or expensive headsets or wind 
      noise.
      
      "Old technology for old airplanes."
      
      David Paule 
      
      
Message 16
| 					INDEX |  Back to Main INDEX |  
| 				PREVIOUS |  Skip to PREVIOUS Message |  
| 					NEXT |  Skip to NEXT Message |  
| 	LIST |  Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |  
| 		SENDER |  Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |  
  | 
      
      
| Subject:  | Re: Douwe's Piet | 
      
      
      Douwe, your side view picture looked so good that I had to set it as
      my desktop background (for continuous inspiration).
      
      One other paint question, what did you paint your metal parts with?
      
      thanks
      
      rick
      
      On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 9:01 AM, Tim Willis <timothywillis@earthlink.net> wrote:
      >
      > It looks just gorgeous, Douwe. And the bigger pix provided more detail, and inspiration
      on "how a Piet SHOULD look!"
      > Tim in central TX
      > do not archive
      >
      > -----Original Message-----
      >>From: Douwe Blumberg <douweblumberg@earthlink.net>
      >>Sent: Mar 20, 2010 9:42 AM
      >>To: pietenpolgroup <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
      >>Subject: Pietenpol-List:
      >>
      >>
      >>Sorry for the big pictures, didn't intend to cause anybody problems.
      >>
      >>Thanks for the kudos, they weren't why I sent the pics, but they are
      >>appreciated. Once she was together and clean at an actual airfield, it just
      >>seemd like a formal photo shoot was the closing of one chapter, and getting
      >>ready to open the next.
      >>
      >
      >
      
      
      -- 
      Rick Holland
      Castle Rock, Colorado
      
      "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"
      
      
Message 17
| 					INDEX |  Back to Main INDEX |  
| 				PREVIOUS |  Skip to PREVIOUS Message |  
| 					NEXT |  Skip to NEXT Message |  
| 	LIST |  Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |  
| 		SENDER |  Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |  
  | 
      
      
| Subject:  | best fuel float ever | 
      
      For both my projects a fellow builder/friend/glider instructor, made my 
      fuel floats for me.
      A standard ping pong ball, drilled and epoxied to a SS wire.
      (epozy was from the Hardware store,,,Epoweld, or something like that)
      Then I drilled the cap and soldered in a vertical brass tube from the 
      hobbie store.
      They never failed me. and has been soaking in gas since 2002.
      
      sorry for the fuzzy pics
      walt evans
      NX140DL
      
Message 18
| 					INDEX |  Back to Main INDEX |  
| 				PREVIOUS |  Skip to PREVIOUS Message |  
| 					NEXT |  Skip to NEXT Message |  
| 	LIST |  Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |  
| 		SENDER |  Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |  
  | 
      
      
| Subject:  | Once again "those amazing Continentals" | 
      
      This morning was nice and warm, so went to the field to start up my 
      Piet.
      Brought it outside, primed it 1 1/2 times pulled thru 6 blades with the 
      mags off,
       left meg (impulse) on , first pull it was running.
      Oil pressure came right up and it sat there and purred for 10 minutes.
      What a beautiful engine.  It was originally built somewhere in the early 
      40's (by the date etchings on the cyl. skirts)
      And here over 65 years later, it runs like a champ.
      Amazing
      walt evans
      NX140DL
      
Message 19
| 					INDEX |  Back to Main INDEX |  
| 				PREVIOUS |  Skip to PREVIOUS Message |  
| 					NEXT |  Skip to NEXT Message |  
| 	LIST |  Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |  
| 		SENDER |  Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |  
  | 
      
      
      
      Or for less money after shipping:
      
      http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1965-1973-FORD-MUSTANG-COUGAR-FUEL-SENDING-U
      NIT-FLOAT_W0QQitemZ360239831852QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotors_Car_Truck_Parts_Ac
      cessories?hash=item53dff79b2c
      
      
      On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 9:02 AM, Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote:
      
      >  Here=92s a link to a retailer for the float Hans is referring to (=85to 
      which
      > Hans is referring):  http://johnsmustang.com/Parts/details-5899.html
      >
      >
      > Gary Boothe
      > Cool, Ca.
      > Pietenpol
      > WW Corvair Conversion, mounted
      > Tail done, Fuselage on gear
      > (18 ribs down=85)
      >   ------------------------------
      >
      > *From:* owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
      > owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *
      > hvandervoo@aol.com
      > *Sent:* Saturday, March 20, 2010 7:18 AM
      > *To:* pietenpol-list@matronics.com
      > *Subject:* Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: cork float
      >
      >
      > [image: FLOAT-FUEL TANK SENDING UNIT]
      >
      >
      > Don't use Cork.
      >
      >
      > I used a '65 Ford Mustang Fuel float
      >
      >
      > If the picture does not show, Google it, you will see a light copper floa
      t
      > with a provision to wrap around a wire
      >
      >
      > It is maintenace free, requires no paint, stands up to any fuel and fits
      > through a standard fuel filler neck
      >
      >
      > Hans
      >
      >
      > NX15KV
      >
      > * *
      >
      > * *
      >
      > **
      >
      > **
      >
      > **
      >
      > *http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List*
      >
      > **
      >
      > **
      >
      > *http://forums.matronics.com*
      >
      > **
      >
      > **
      >
      > *http://www.matronics.com/contribution*
      >
      > * *
      >
      > *
      >
      ===========
      ===========
      ===========
      ===========
      > *
      >
      >
      
      
      -- 
      Rick Holland
      Castle Rock, Colorado
      
      "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"
      
Message 20
| 					INDEX |  Back to Main INDEX |  
| 				PREVIOUS |  Skip to PREVIOUS Message |  
| 					NEXT |  Skip to NEXT Message |  
| 	LIST |  Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |  
| 		SENDER |  Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |  
  | 
      
      
| Subject:  | Re: GN-1 cabane length | 
      
      
      Jon, 
      Felix the GN-1 has both cabane lengths front and rear 22.75". The plane
      flies just like a Piet(longerons level and elevator just down). The plane
      flies and lands great, the only thing is when I do a full stall landing the
      tailwheel always hits first. This is not a real problem as it does not
      cause a bounce, but I wish there was higher AOA at the 3-point attitude.
      Because of this I am using a smaller tailwheel on the Piet I am building.
      If I were building a Grega I would make the front cabane an inch longer.
      Skip
      
      
      >
      > It looks like the concensus for Piet plans is 1" longer for the front.  I
      will have to do some looking at my Piet plans (I have both Piet and GN-1
      drawings) and see what 1" does as far as the angle of incidence.  I will
      report back.  Seems like with a few GN-1 builders out there it would be
      good to settle this as there is no support from Don Grega.
      >
      > --------
      > Jon Coxwell  
      >
      
      
Message 21
| 					INDEX |  Back to Main INDEX |  
| 				PREVIOUS |  Skip to PREVIOUS Message |  
| 					NEXT |  Skip to NEXT Message |  
| 	LIST |  Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |  
| 		SENDER |  Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |  
  | 
      
      
      
      
      I'm not making a recommendation... I am just curious if anyone is using one of
      these.  I have and PSEngineering AeroComIII.  It is a microprocessor controlled
      device that samples the ambient noise and adjusts the VOX threshold automatically.
      It works great everywhere I've used it, but I am wondering if it is capable
      of doing this in an open cockpit.
      
      Anyone have experience with this unit?
      
      --------
      Mark - working on wings
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=291065#291065
      
      
Message 22
| 					INDEX |  Back to Main INDEX |  
| 				PREVIOUS |  Skip to PREVIOUS Message |  
| 					NEXT |  Skip to NEXT Message |  
| 	LIST |  Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |  
| 		SENDER |  Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |  
  | 
      
      
      
      Can anyone tell me how to find or see the photos associated with these mess
      ages are located?- As they say, a picture is worth a thousand words and i
       sure would like to be able to see all the fine examples of Piet workmanshi
      p contained here. I'm starting my Piet build This April and I want to build
       on the best of the experience all of you have to offer.
      
      Thanks, first timer
      Jeff Wilson
      
      =0A=0A=0A      
      
Message 23
| 					INDEX |  Back to Main INDEX |  
| 				PREVIOUS |  Skip to PREVIOUS Message |  
| 					NEXT |  Skip to NEXT Message |  
| 	LIST |  Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |  
| 		SENDER |  Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |  
  | 
      
      
      
      Welcome Jeff. If you are getting the list real-time via email they  
      should be attached to the message. If you are getting the digest they  
      won't be, but you can access the list via the web-based forum and they  
      should be in the messages there:
      
      http://forum.matronics.com
      
      Then scroll down to find the Pietenpol list. You can also find the  
      Matronics list archives at:
      
      http://www.matronics.com/search
      
      Read the instructions on how best to construct your search, as that  
      will ensure you can find what you are looking for. There is a lot of  
      information in the archives.
      
      Have a good day,
      
      Ryan
      
      Sent from my iPhone
      
      On Mar 20, 2010, at 2:45 PM, jeff wilson <jlwilsonnn@yahoo.com> wrote:
      
      > Can anyone tell me how to find or see the photos associated with  
      > these messages are located?  As they say, a picture is worth a  
      > thousand words and i sure would like to be able to see all the fine  
      > examples of Piet workmanship contained here. I'm starting my Piet  
      > build This April and I want to build on the best of the experience  
      > all of you have to offer.
      >
      > Thanks, first timer
      > Jeff Wilson
      >
      >
      
Message 24
| 					INDEX |  Back to Main INDEX |  
| 				PREVIOUS |  Skip to PREVIOUS Message |  
| 					NEXT |  Skip to NEXT Message |  
| 	LIST |  Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |  
| 		SENDER |  Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |  
  | 
      
      
| Subject:  | simple 1/4" stainless tubing for airspeed pitot tube | 
      
      
      Rick, group-- I used some 5 minute epoxy in my leading edge hole to secure my
      pitot tube figuring if I ever bent it or needed to remove it I could just take
      a pair of vise grips or pliers and twist it radially to break the bond. 
      
      I slid the tubing into the hole then lathered a small section w/ a little epoxy
      honey then slid that forward twisting around to spread the epoxy a little and let
      cure. 
      
      All tubing from that 1/4" pitot tube to the air speed indicator is nylon 1/4" tubing
      and fittings available thru Wicks or ACS.  That tubing works nicely for smoke oil
      delivery to
      the firewall too where you then make the transition to metal tubing forward of
      the firewall. 
      
      Mike C. 
      
      
Message 25
| 					INDEX |  Back to Main INDEX |  
| 				PREVIOUS |  Skip to PREVIOUS Message |  
| 					NEXT |  Skip to NEXT Message |  
| 	LIST |  Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |  
| 		SENDER |  Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |  
  | 
      
      
      
      Better test her out Jack...you may have a ticking time bomb on your hands...
        ;)
      
      Ryan
      
      do not archive
      
      On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 9:58 AM, <r.r.hall@cox.net> wrote:
      
      >   I would suggest that you take whatever you are considering using,
      > shellac, epoxy or whatever, and coat something with it
      >
      > then seal it in a container of gasoline and wait a week then check it for
      > deterioration. I was wondering if maybe you could
      >
      > make one out of large diameter copper pipe with caps soldered on the ends.
      > Just an idea.
      >
      >
      > ---- Jack Phillips <pietflyr@bellsouth.net> wrote:
      > >
      >
      > *I made a float out of fishing rod handlecork rings glued together, and
      > coated the whole thing with T-88, and then withStits PolyFiber Epoxy
      > Varnish.  Works great.  The fishing rod corkrings can be purchased from any
      > company that sells rod building supplies. I think I got mine from Hook &
      > Hackle:  **http://www.hookhack.com/* <http://www.hookhack.com/>* *
      >
      > * ** *
      >
      > *Jack Phillips** *
      >
      > *NX899JP** *
      >
      > *Raleigh, NC** *
      >
      > * *
      >
      
Message 26
| 					INDEX |  Back to Main INDEX |  
| 				PREVIOUS |  Skip to PREVIOUS Message |  
| 					NEXT |  Skip to NEXT Message |  
| 	LIST |  Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |  
| 		SENDER |  Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |  
  | 
      
      
      
      Ah yes, Yankee Boy on Board...that would be me according to our token Rebel
       from
      the Sawuth Corky !
      
      George Washington might have said one puff by day, twoeth by night....:))
      
      (or something like that)
      
      Mike C.
      
      do not archive
      
      
Message 27
| 					INDEX |  Back to Main INDEX |  
| 				PREVIOUS |  Skip to PREVIOUS Message |  
| 					NEXT |  Skip to NEXT Message |  
| 	LIST |  Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |  
| 		SENDER |  Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |  
  | 
      
      
      
      Well, it's been immersed in 100LL ever since 2004 and hasn't deteriorated
      yet, but next week might be a different matter.
      
      
      Jack Phillips
      
      NX899JP
      
      Raleigh, NC
      
      
        _____  
      
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Mueller
      Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2010 5:10 PM
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: cork float
      
      
      Better test her out Jack...you may have a ticking time bomb on your hands...
      ;)
      
      
      Ryan
      
      
      do not archive
      
      On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 9:58 AM, <r.r.hall@cox.net> wrote:
      
      I would suggest that you take whatever you are considering using, shellac,
      epoxy or whatever, and coat something with it 
      
      then seal it in a container of gasoline and wait a week then check it for
      deterioration. I was wondering if maybe you could 
      
      make one out of large diameter copper pipe with caps soldered on the ends.
      Just an idea. 
      
      
      ---- Jack Phillips <pietflyr@bellsouth.net> wrote:
      > 
      
      I made a float out of fishing rod handlecork rings glued together, and
      coated the whole thing with T-88, and then withStits PolyFiber Epoxy
      Varnish.  Works great.  The fishing rod corkrings can be purchased from any
      company that sells rod building supplies. I think I got mine from Hook &
      Hackle:   <http://www.hookhack.com/> http://www.hookhack.com/ 
      
      
      Jack Phillips 
      
      NX899JP 
      
      Raleigh, NC 
      
      
Message 28
| 					INDEX |  Back to Main INDEX |  
| 				PREVIOUS |  Skip to PREVIOUS Message |  
| 					NEXT |  Skip to NEXT Message |  
| 	LIST |  Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |  
| 		SENDER |  Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |  
  | 
      
      
      
      
      Rick that is right. Those headsets we used each had a male plug on the wire and
      we had different lengths of coax cables up to about 250 feet long. Most of the
      time we used a coax about 50 feet. They had female connectors on them. No power
      required.
      
      
      So the only reason you would need an intercom box and a push to talk
      button is if you want to talk with a passenger and occasionally talk
      on the com radio?
      
      rick
      
      --------
      Jerry Dotson
      59 Daniel Johnson Rd
      Baker, FL 32531
      
      Started building  NX510JD  July, 2009
      Ribs and tailfeathers done
      using Lycoming O-235
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=291096#291096
      
      
Message 29
| 					INDEX |  Back to Main INDEX |  
| 				PREVIOUS |  Skip to PREVIOUS Message |  
| 					NEXT |  Skip to NEXT Message |  
| 	LIST |  Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |  
| 		SENDER |  Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |  
  | 
      
      
| Subject:  | Re: just another idea and concept to ponder | 
      
      Speaking of metalworking you too can be an expert cowl
      maker
      
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OR4CcczpZFs&feature=related
      
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LctS-jTER_M&feature=related
      
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHQEGEpXKVA&feature=related
      
      Clif
      
      
        .   My two big anxiety areas are metalwork in general, 
      
        Kip Gardner
      
      
Message 30
| 					INDEX |  Back to Main INDEX |  
| 				PREVIOUS |  Skip to PREVIOUS Message |  
| 					NEXT |  Skip to NEXT Message |  
| 	LIST |  Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |  
| 		SENDER |  Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |  
  | 
      
      
| Subject:  | Re: Once again "those amazing Continentals" | 
      
      
      My 1940 Cont. A-80 does the same thing.  What an incredible engine.
      I have the original engine log and it served many an airplane....including
      military training in the past 70 years.
      
      Mike King
      GN-1
      77MK
      Corpus Christi, Texas
      
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: walt
      Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2010 11:18 AM
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Once again "those amazing Continentals"
      
      
      This morning was nice and warm, so went to the field to start up my Piet.
      Brought it outside, primed it 1 1/2 times pulled thru 6 blades with the mags 
      off,
       left meg (impulse) on , first pull it was running.
      Oil pressure came right up and it sat there and purred for 10 minutes.
      What a beautiful engine.  It was originally built somewhere in the early 
      40's (by the date etchings on the cyl. skirts)
      And here over 65 years later, it runs like a champ.
      Amazing
      walt evans
      NX140DL
      
      
 
Other Matronics Email List Services
 
 
These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.
 
 
-- Please support this service by making your Contribution today! --
  
 |