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1. 02:24 AM - Re: Once again "those amazing Continentals" (Gene & Tammy)
2. 06:32 AM - Re: Re: intercom (Jeff Boatright)
3. 06:58 AM - Re: Re: intercom (greg menoche)
4. 09:24 AM - Re: Re: intercom (Jeff Boatright)
5. 03:58 PM - Re: GN-1 cabane length (coxwelljon)
6. 05:05 PM - toe (airlion)
7. 05:34 PM - Re: toe (Mike Tunnicliffe)
8. 05:34 PM - Re: toe (Perry Rhoads)
9. 05:51 PM - Re: toe (Mike Townsley)
10. 06:01 PM - Empennage questions (BYD)
11. 06:13 PM - Phase I complete for 6926J (Skip Gadd)
12. 06:32 PM - Re: Phase I complete for 6926J (Ben Charvet)
13. 06:49 PM - Re: Phase I complete for 6926J (Rick Holland)
14. 07:24 PM - Re: Empennage questions (Chris)
15. 07:47 PM - Re: just another idea and concept to ponder (Jim Markle)
16. 08:12 PM - Re: just another idea and concept to ponder (H RULE)
17. 08:50 PM - Re: just another idea and concept to ponder (Ryan Mueller)
18. 08:54 PM - Re: Empennage questions (gcardinal)
19. 09:13 PM - Re: just another idea and concept to ponder (Dick N)
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| Subject: | Re: Once again "those amazing Continentals" |
I have to agree with you guys. Amazing and incredible. I love my ol' A 65.
So reliable. Once you've owned and flown behind one you understand why
they're so loved.
Gene
N502R
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike King" <mikek120@mindspring.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2010 9:31 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Once again "those amazing Continentals"
> <mikek120@mindspring.com>
>
> My 1940 Cont. A-80 does the same thing. What an incredible engine.
> I have the original engine log and it served many an airplane....including
> military training in the past 70 years.
>
> Mike King
> GN-1
> 77MK
> Corpus Christi, Texas
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: walt
> To: piet list
> Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2010 11:18 AM
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Once again "those amazing Continentals"
>
>
> This morning was nice and warm, so went to the field to start up my Piet.
> Brought it outside, primed it 1 1/2 times pulled thru 6 blades with the
> mags
> off,
> left meg (impulse) on , first pull it was running.
> Oil pressure came right up and it sat there and purred for 10 minutes.
> What a beautiful engine. It was originally built somewhere in the early
> 40's (by the date etchings on the cyl. skirts)
> And here over 65 years later, it runs like a champ.
> Amazing
> walt evans
> NX140DL
>
>
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Douwe,
Our intercom is a FlightTech ITC-401TC. It's a portable that runs off
a 9V battery. We replace the battery at every annual, whether it
needs it or not. We've mounted in on the back of the front seat, to
the right of the pilot's left-leg knee out. Works great with every
mix of headsets that we've thrown at it.
Jeff
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Jeffrey H. Boatright, Ph.D.
Associate Professor of Ophthalmology
Emory University School of Medicine
Editor-in-Chief
Molecular Vision
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Can I get picture Jeff of the intercom and its placement? Thanks Greg, DE
-----Original Message-----
>From: Jeff Boatright <jboatri@emory.edu>
>Sent: Mar 21, 2010 7:30 AM
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: intercom
>
>
>Douwe,
>
>Our intercom is a FlightTech ITC-401TC. It's a portable that runs off
>a 9V battery. We replace the battery at every annual, whether it
>needs it or not. We've mounted in on the back of the front seat, to
>the right of the pilot's left-leg knee out. Works great with every
>mix of headsets that we've thrown at it.
>
>Jeff
>
>
>--
>---
>
>Jeffrey H. Boatright, Ph.D.
>Associate Professor of Ophthalmology
>Emory University School of Medicine
>Editor-in-Chief
>Molecular Vision
>
>
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Greg,
Sure. Here's two shots from westcoastpiet. We've cleaned up the
routing of the wires since the photo was taken, using sticky-backed
cable clamps from Office Depot or Staples.
http://www.westcoastpiet.com/images/Wayne%20Bob%20and%20Jeff/IMG_0126.JPG
http://www.westcoastpiet.com/images/Wayne%20Bob%20and%20Jeff/IMG_0127.JPG
HTH,
Jeff
>
>Can I get picture Jeff of the intercom and its placement? Thanks Greg, DE
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Jeff Boatright <jboatri@emory.edu>
>>Sent: Mar 21, 2010 7:30 AM
>>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>>Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: intercom
>>
>>
>>Douwe,
>>
>>Our intercom is a FlightTech ITC-401TC. It's a portable that runs off
>>a 9V battery. We replace the battery at every annual, whether it
>>needs it or not. We've mounted in on the back of the front seat, to
>>the right of the pilot's left-leg knee out. Works great with every
>>mix of headsets that we've thrown at it.
>>
>>Jeff
>>
>>
>>--
>>---
>>
>>Jeffrey H. Boatright, Ph.D.
>>Associate Professor of Ophthalmology
>>Emory University School of Medicine
>>Editor-in-Chief
>>Molecular Vision
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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Jeffrey H. Boatright, Ph.D.
Associate Professor of Ophthalmology
Emory University School of Medicine
Editor-in-Chief
Molecular Vision
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| Subject: | Re: GN-1 cabane length |
luther b green wrote:
> My cabanes need rebuilding but are measurable and I will do that and post
> results today sometime. The picture of mine in flight looks level to me so I
> will keep the length to start with. I'll post the picture also so you guys
> can take a look.
> Bryan Green
> Elgin SC
> GN-1 rebuilding
> ---
Thanks Bryan, I would like to know the lengths and see a picture.
Skip, Thanks for that information as well. It sounds like I am in the ball park.
Still haven't calculated what 1" equates to on the Piet for comparison but
will do it and post it.
Jon Coxwell
--------
Jon Coxwell
GN-1 Builder
Recycle and preserve the planet
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=291186#291186
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What kind of toe in or out do I need. Right now with no shims I have 1/4 inch toe
in. Measurements taken from front of each wheel to the back of each wheel
thanks ,Gardiner Mason
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Hi Gardiner, toe in will acentuate ground looping, it is normal to have zero
or slight toe out on a tail dragger. regards Mike T.
----- Original Message -----
From: "airlion" <airlion@bellsouth.net>
Sent: Monday, March 22, 2010 1:04 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: toe
>
> What kind of toe in or out do I need. Right now with no shims I have 1/4
> inch toe in. Measurements taken from front of each wheel to the back of
> each wheel thanks ,Gardiner Mason
>
>
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The tow on N12939 as purchased from Vi Kapler is 0. Handles great on the
hard surface I have to operate from.
Perry Rhoads
N12939
----- Original Message -----
From: "airlion" <airlion@bellsouth.net>
Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2010 7:04 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: toe
>
> What kind of toe in or out do I need. Right now with no shims I have 1/4
> inch toe in. Measurements taken from front of each wheel to the back of
> each wheel thanks ,Gardiner Mason
>
>
>
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I was always told that Toe out was best for a trail dragger. Just a
little bit.
Mike Townsley
airlion wrote:
>
> What kind of toe in or out do I need. Right now with no shims I have 1/4 inch
toe in. Measurements taken from front of each wheel to the back of each wheel
thanks ,Gardiner Mason
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Empennage questions |
How do most builders tackle the differences in the stems of the tail shapes when
adding the capstrips?
Picturing the mushroom-shape of the leading edge, the portion that the capstrips
glue to are what Im referring to as the stem. Same is true on the T-shaped
main beam and the bullet-shaped trailing edge. The T-shaped main beam appears
to have the correct stem thickness to allow the capstrips to fit flat. The leading
edge mushroom-shape will have a .062 lip at each capstrip and the bullet-shaped
trailing edge will have a whopping .125 lip (on each side).
Also,
The center beam in most cases does not have a gusset at the ends. I have viewed
pictures where builders extend existing gussets to provide this support has
anyone fabricated and used the tail components per prints without them?
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=291199#291199
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| Subject: | Phase I complete for 6926J |
Well we lucked out and the runway finely dried out after a really cold and
wet winter here in West Virginia. Since March 17 we have had great weather
and Ed and I have flown about 12 and 1/2 hours to complete the 25 hour
phase I restriction on his Piet. We now have 2 actual flying Piets at Hales
Landing.
Skip
PS. Anyone looking for very a reasonable airport home check out
Barnstormers, WV.
skipgadd@earthlink.net
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| Subject: | Re: Phase I complete for 6926J |
Congratulations Skip.
The weather here in Florida is really frustrating me. Another 3 day
weekend with no flying at all, due to excessive winds and/or rain. I'm
still hoping to fly to Sun-N-Fun, but will need some better weather
between now and then.
Ben Charvet
13.9 hours left in Phase 1
On 3/21/2010 9:12 PM, Skip Gadd wrote:
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Skip Gadd"<skipgadd@earthlink.net>
>
> Well we lucked out and the runway finely dried out after a really cold and
> wet winter here in West Virginia. Since March 17 we have had great weather
> and Ed and I have flown about 12 and 1/2 hours to complete the 25 hour
> phase I restriction on his Piet. We now have 2 actual flying Piets at Hales
> Landing.
> Skip
>
> PS. Anyone looking for very a reasonable airport home check out
> Barnstormers, WV.
>
> skipgadd@earthlink.net
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Phase I complete for 6926J |
Congrats Skip, and wow, only $149K for a nice house with a 40x40
hanger at your airpark. I could almost afford to retire now to a place
that reasonable, and then we would have 3 Piets on the field.
rick
On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 7:12 PM, Skip Gadd <skipgadd@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> Well we lucked out and the runway finely dried out after a really cold and
> wet winter here in West Virginia. Since March 17 we have had great weather
> and Ed and I have flown about 12 and 1/2 hours to complete the 25 hour
> phase I restriction on his Piet. We now have 2 actual flying Piets at Hales
> Landing.
> Skip
>
> PS. Anyone looking for very a reasonable airport home check out
> Barnstormers, WV.
>
> skipgadd@earthlink.net
>
>
--
Rick Holland
Castle Rock, Colorado
"Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"
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| Subject: | Empennage questions |
This is what I have on my tail construction. Where the cap strips were taller
then the beams I sanded the capstrips.
http://westcoastpiet.com/images/Chris%20Tracy/Tail_Wood_Piece_Location.jpg
Exstend the guset to coverer the center beam.
Chris
Sacramento,Ca
Westcoastpiet.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of BYD
Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2010 6:01 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Empennage questions
How do most builders tackle the differences in the stems of the tail shapes when
adding the capstrips?
Picturing the mushroom-shape of the leading edge, the portion that the capstrips
glue to are what Im referring to as the stem. Same is true on the T-shaped
main beam and the bullet-shaped trailing edge. The T-shaped main beam appears
to have the correct stem thickness to allow the capstrips to fit flat. The leading
edge mushroom-shape will have a .062 lip at each capstrip and the bullet-shaped
trailing edge will have a whopping .125 lip (on each side).
Also,
The center beam in most cases does not have a gusset at the ends. I have viewed
pictures where builders extend existing gussets to provide this support has
anyone fabricated and used the tail components per prints without them?
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=291199#291199
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| Subject: | Re: just another idea and concept to ponder |
VERY cool idea. Logistics will be the challenge but I'm definitely in!
-----Original Message-----
From: AMsafetyC@aol.com
Sent: Mar 19, 2010 7:00 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: just another idea and concept to ponder
Hello good people.....
A new idea and concept for the group to ponder.
As we all know and have recognized we all share a common bond as fellow
lovers of the blue, aviators, builders connected through the design genius of
Bernard Pietenpol and his flying contraption the aeroplane. We as a collection
of builders have at our disposal some, many and all of the requisite skill
levels to construct such a machine with little assistance or intervention from
the outside world.
The there are those who would love to join our ranks but may be lacking in
skills, equipment and time to turn their dream into a reality. From
prints to Piet if you will. We know that everyone has a skill set that is good
in some areas and not so good in others. Knowing these basic tenants I am
curious as to who or what builders would welcome the talents of other builders
equipped with tools and skills would be interested in having a group of builders
show up at their hanger, barn, basement or garage for a weekend build utilizing
all the skills of the people interested in lending a hand to accomplish a number
of tasks to get the project going bring the tools to get the certain aspects
completed. Woodworkers, metal workers, mechanical workers and the like showing
up to get a build from a stalled stage to a more accomplished state of being a
Pietenpol.
I am speaking about two groups of people, those with the skills and
resources capable of committing to a 2 or 3 day weekend to participate in
building another Piet as one group. The other group would be a builder or would
be builder who in need of assistance in advancing their project to a next or
greater level of completion.
This again is but another concept for consideration. For example I have
both tools not all that I need but certainly more than other that are portable,
a trailer to transport them and no skills to speak of. I also have lodging as in
a popup/tent camper to bring to a build site for a few days to help another
builder. There are others with tools and skills that may also be portable.
Through this cooperative of a half dozen or more people who would be
willing to share their time and expertise to get another build moving and
another builder to a next level of completion.
I am wonder how many of us would be willing to pitch in for a week end to
help and how many would be interested in receiving those willing to help.
Before I go any further with this concept it would be nice to know if there
is any interest at all in helping or being helped.
Just in case you were wondering, I have all of my tools marked for
identification purposes. I know how this works.
Helpers bring tools and skills and resources as needed helped
provide a keg on tap burgers and a place for a fire and I think we are cooking
with gas!
What say you?
John
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| Subject: | Re: just another idea and concept to ponder |
another question along the same lines would be" could a PIET be built by as
many builders as it would take over the Brodhead weekend?"Much the same wa
y as they build the aluminum stol aircraft, CH701,at the Sun N Fun weekend.
Then auction or raffle it off at the end of the weekend for some lucky pers
on to take home.=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Jim Ma
rkle <jim_markle@mindspring.com>=0ATo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com=0ASent:
Sun, March 21, 2010 10:47:10 PM=0ASubject: Re: Pietenpol-List: just anothe
Markle <jim_markle@mindspring.com>=0A=0AVERY cool idea.- Logistics will
be the challenge but I'm definitely in!=0A=0A=0A=0A-----Original Message---
--=0A=0AFrom: AMsafetyC@aol.com=0A=0ASent: Mar 19, 2010 7:00 PM=0A=0ATo: pi
etenpol-list@matronics.com=0A=0ASubject: Pietenpol-List: just another idea
and concept to ponder=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AHello good people.....=0A
=0AA new idea and concept for the group to ponder.=0A=0AAs we all know and
have recognized we all share a common bond as fellow =0Alovers of the blue,
aviators, builders connected through the design genius of =0ABernard Piete
npol and his flying contraption the aeroplane. We as a collection =0Aof bui
lders have at our disposal some, many and all of the requisite skill =0Alev
els to construct such a machine with little assistance or intervention from
=0Athe outside world.=0A=0AThe there are those who would love to join our
ranks but may be lacking in =0Askills, equipment and time to turn their dre
am into a reality. From =0Aprints to Piet if you will. We know that everyon
e has a skill set that is good =0Ain some areas and not so good in others.
Knowing these basic tenants I am =0Acurious as to who or what builders woul
d welcome the talents of other builders =0Aequipped with tools and skills w
ould be interested in having a group of builders =0Ashow up at their hanger
, barn, basement or garage for a weekend build utilizing =0Aall the skills
of the people interested in lending a hand to accomplish a number =0Aof tas
ks to get the project going bring the tools to get the certain aspects =0Ac
ompleted. Woodworkers, metal workers, mechanical workers and the like showi
ng =0Aup to get a build from a stalled stage to a more accomplished state o
f being a =0APietenpol.=0A=0AI am speaking about two groups of people, thos
e with the skills and =0Aresources capable of committing to a 2 or 3 day we
ekend to participate in =0Abuilding another Piet as one group. The other gr
oup would be a builder or would =0Abe builder who in need of assistance in
advancing their project to a next or =0Agreater level of completion.=0A=0AT
his again is but another concept for consideration. For example I have =0Ab
oth tools not all that I need but certainly more than other that are portab
le, =0Aa trailer to transport them and no skills to speak of. I also have l
odging as in =0Aa popup/tent camper to bring to a build site for a few days
to help another =0Abuilder. There are others with tools and skills that ma
y also be portable. =0A=0A=0AThrough this cooperative of a half dozen or mo
re people who would be =0Awilling to share their time and expertise to get
another build moving and =0Aanother builder to a next level of completion.
=0A=0AI am wonder how many of us would be willing to pitch in for a week en
d to =0Ahelp and how many would be interested in receiving those willing to
help. =0A=0ABefore I go any further with this concept it would be nice to
know if there =0Ais any interest at all in helping or being helped.=0A=0AJu
st in case you were wondering, I have all of my tools marked for =0Aidentif
ication purposes. I know how this works.=0A=0AHelpers bring tools and skill
s and resources as needed helped =0Aprovide a keg on tap burgers and a plac
e for a fire and I think we are cooking =0Awith gas! =0A=0AWhat say you?=0A
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| Subject: | Re: just another idea and concept to ponder |
The only thing is, with Sun-N-Fun or Oshkosh you're talking week-long
events. At Brodhead, depending on when you get there, you really only have
two full days: Friday, and Saturday, and Saturday you have the forums during
the day. The place turns into a ghost town pretty quick on Sunday since
everyone has to either get home or head to Oshkosh. Don't get me wrong, I'm
all for helping people out, but I'd rather spend my all-too-short time there
on that weekend enjoying the people and the airplanes, and not in a hangar
working on a project. You don't have to wait for bucked rivets to dry,
either....
Maybe we could knock Oshkosh down to a couple days, and expand Brodhead to a
full week... :)
Have a good night,
Ryan
On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 10:12 PM, H RULE <harvey.rule@rogers.com> wrote:
> another question along the same lines would be" could a PIET be built by as
> many builders as it would take over the Brodhead weekend?"Much the same way
> as they build the aluminum stol aircraft, CH701,at the Sun N Fun
> weekend.Then auction or raffle it off at the end of the weekend for some
> lucky person to take home.
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Jim Markle <jim_markle@mindspring.com>
>
> *To:* pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> *Sent:* Sun, March 21, 2010 10:47:10 PM
> *Subject:* Re: Pietenpol-List: just another idea and concept to ponder
>
> jim_markle@mindspring.com>
>
> VERY cool idea. Logistics will be the challenge but I'm definitely in!
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: AMsafetyC@aol.com
>
> Sent: Mar 19, 2010 7:00 PM
>
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: just another idea and concept to ponder
>
>
> Hello good people.....
>
> A new idea and concept for the group to ponder.
>
> As we all know and have recognized we all share a common bond as fellow
> lovers of the blue, aviators, builders connected through the design genius
> of
> Bernard Pietenpol and his flying contraption the aeroplane. We as a
> collection
> of builders have at our disposal some, many and all of the requisite skill
> levels to construct such a machine with little assistance or intervention
> from
> the outside world.
>
> The there are those who would love to join our ranks but may be lacking in
> skills, equipment and time to turn their dream into a reality. From
> prints to Piet if you will. We know that everyone has a skill set that is
> good
> in some areas and not so good in others. Knowing these basic tenants I am
> curious as to who or what builders would welcome the talents of other
> builders
> equipped with tools and skills would be interested in having a group of
> builders
> show up at their hanger, barn, basement or garage for a weekend build
> utilizing
> all the skills of the people interested in lending a hand to accomplish a
> number
> of tasks to get the project going bring the tools to get the certain
> aspects
> completed. Woodworkers, metal workers, mechanical workers and the like
> showing
> up to get a build from a stalled stage to a more accomplished state of
> being a
> Pietenpol.
>
> I am speaking about two groups of people, those with the skills and
> resources capable of committing to a 2 or 3 day weekend to participate in
> building another Piet as one group. The other group would be a builder or
> would
> be builder who in need of assistance in advancing their project to a next
> or
> greater level of completion.
>
> This again is but another concept for consideration. For example I have
> both tools not all that I need but certainly more than other that are
> portable,
> a trailer to transport them and no skills to speak of. I also have lodging
> as in
> a popup/tent camper to bring to a build site for a few days to help another
>
> builder. There are others with tools and skills that may also be portable.
>
>
> Through this cooperative of a half dozen or more people who would be
> willing to share their time and expertise to get another build moving and
> another builder to a next level of completion.
>
> I am wonder how many of us would be willing to pitch in for a week end to
> help and how many would be interested in receiving those willing to help.
>
> Before I go any further with this concept it would be nice to know if there
>
> is any interest at all in helping or being helped.
>
> Just in case you were wondering, I have all of my tools marked for
> identification purposes. I know how this works.
>
> Helpers bring tools and skills and resources as needed helped
> provide a keg on tap burgers and a place for a fire and I think we are
> cooking
> with gas!
>
> What say you?
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?sp; //forums.matronics.com/"
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| Subject: | Re: Empennage questions |
Cut a partial relief in the stem and fair the capstrip so it is flush with
the lip.
The center beam needs to have a gusset on the end.
Greg Cardinal
----- Original Message -----
From: "BYD" <byd@att.net>
Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2010 8:01 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Empennage questions
>
> How do most builders tackle the differences in the stems of the tail
> shapes when adding the capstrips?
>
> Picturing the mushroom-shape of the leading edge, the portion that the
> capstrips glue to are what I?Tm referring to as the stem. Same is true
> on the T-shaped main beam and the bullet-shaped trailing edge. The
> T-shaped main beam appears to have the correct stem thickness to allow the
> capstrips to fit flat. The leading edge mushroom-shape will have a
> .062? lip at each capstrip and the bullet-shaped trailing edge will have
> a whopping .125? lip (on each side).
>
> Also,
> The ?ocenter beam? in most cases does not have a gusset at the ends. I
> have viewed pictures where builders extend existing gussets to provide
> this support ?" has anyone fabricated and used the tail components per
> prints without them?
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=291199#291199
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| Subject: | Re: just another idea and concept to ponder |
No, that couldn't be done. Not to a completed ship if that's what you
are suggesting. A bare fuselage would take 6 days alone. Just think of
the work involved in the wings.
Dick N.
----- Original Message -----
From: H RULE
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2010 10:12 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: just another idea and concept to ponder
another question along the same lines would be" could a PIET be built
by as many builders as it would take over the Brodhead weekend?"Much the
same way as they build the aluminum stol aircraft, CH701,at the Sun N
Fun weekend.Then auction or raffle it off at the end of the weekend for
some lucky person to take home.
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From: Jim Markle <jim_markle@mindspring.com>
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sun, March 21, 2010 10:47:10 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: just another idea and concept to ponder
<jim_markle@mindspring.com>
VERY cool idea. Logistics will be the challenge but I'm definitely
in!
-----Original Message-----
From: AMsafetyC@aol.com
Sent: Mar 19, 2010 7:00 PM
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: Pietenpol-List: just another idea and concept to ponder
Hello good people.....
A new idea and concept for the group to ponder.
As we all know and have recognized we all share a common bond as
fellow
lovers of the blue, aviators, builders connected through the design
genius of
Bernard Pietenpol and his flying contraption the aeroplane. We as a
collection
of builders have at our disposal some, many and all of the requisite
skill
levels to construct such a machine with little assistance or
intervention from
the outside world.
The there are those who would love to join our ranks but may be
lacking in
skills, equipment and time to turn their dream into a reality. From
prints to Piet if you will. We know that everyone has a skill set that
is good
in some areas and not so good in others. Knowing these basic tenants I
am
curious as to who or what builders would welcome the talents of other
builders
equipped with tools and skills would be interested in having a group
of builders
show up at their hanger, barn, basement or garage for a weekend build
utilizing
all the skills of the people interested in lending a hand to
accomplish a number
of tasks to get the project going bring the tools to get the certain
aspects
completed. Woodworkers, metal workers, mechanical workers and the like
showing
up to get a build from a stalled stage to a more accomplished state of
being a
Pietenpol.
I am speaking about two groups of people, those with the skills and
resources capable of committing to a 2 or 3 day weekend to participate
in
building another Piet as one group. The other group would be a builder
or would
be builder who in need of assistance in advancing their project to a
next or
greater level of completion.
This again is but another concept for consideration. For example I
have
both tools not all that I need but certainly more than other that are
portable,
a trailer to transport them and no skills to speak of. I also have
lodging as in
a popup/tent camper to bring to a build site for a few days to help
another
builder. There are others with tools and skills that may also be
portable.
Through this cooperative of a half dozen or more people who would be
willing to share their time and expertise to get another build moving
and
another builder to a next level of completion.
I am wonder how many of us would be willing to pitch in for a week end
to
help and how many would be interested in receiving those willing to
help.
Before I go any further with this concept it would be nice to know if
there
is any interest at all in helping or being helped.
Just in case you were wondering, I have all of my tools marked for
identification purposes. I know how this works.
Helpers bring tools and skills and resources as needed helped
provide a keg on tap burgers and a place for a fire and I think we are
cooking
with gas!
What say you?
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//forums.matronics.com/" target=_blank>http://forums.matronics.com
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