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1. 03:48 AM - welcome Gary (Douwe Blumberg)
2. 04:42 AM - Re: New Member Lurking on the Lists (Don Emch)
3. 05:22 AM - Weight and balance- Douwe's Piet (helspersew@aol.com)
4. 06:57 AM - Re: Continental A-65 and Stromberg carb for sale (Gene & Tammy)
5. 08:13 AM - Re: Continental A-65 and Stromberg carb for sale (Ryan Mueller)
6. 08:57 AM - New Member Lurking on the Lists (Oscar Zuniga)
7. 09:58 AM - Re: Re: Cloudcars prop on N502R (Gene & Tammy)
8. 10:19 AM - William Wynne Corvair conversion parts for sale (Ryan Mueller)
9. 12:44 PM - (jeff wilson)
10. 01:34 PM - Tach Question (jeff wilson)
11. 01:56 PM - Re: Tach Question (skellytown flyer)
12. 04:40 PM - Re: Re: Tach Question (Kip and Beth Gardner)
13. 07:31 PM - Re: Cloudcars prop on N502R (Jerry Dotson)
14. 07:59 PM - Re: New Member Lurking on the Lists (coxwelljon)
15. 08:39 PM - Re: New Member Lurking on the Lists (Bill Church)
16. 09:14 PM - Re: New Member Lurking on the Lists (Bill Church)
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Welcome Gary!
Honestly, you couldn't have found a more helpful and encouraging group, nor
a more wonderful plane...
#1 advice... go to Brodhead
#2 advice... build to the plans (except for minor stuff)
#3 advice... use spruce, dont use a heavier wood, or think you have to beef
up the design, it's been flying for 80 yrs.
#4 advice... build to the plans..
#5 advice... build light
#6 advice... build to the plans....
#7 advice... have fun and involve your family (if applicable)
#8 advice... build to the plans.....
Douwe
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| Subject: | Re: New Member Lurking on the Lists |
Just PLEASE don't spell it like my wife does....BORDHEAD.
Don Emch
NX899DE
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| Subject: | Weight and balance- Douwe's Piet |
Hi Douwe,
Please tell us your empty weight, and EW CG location. Did you move your en
gine forward of plans?
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
-----Original Message-----
From: Douwe Blumberg <douweblumberg@earthlink.net>
Sent: Sun, Mar 28, 2010 5:51 am
Subject: Pietenpol-List: welcome Gary
hlink.net>
Welcome Gary!
Honestly, you couldn't have found a more helpful and encouraging group, no
r
more wonderful plane...
#1 advice... go to Brodhead
2 advice... build to the plans (except for minor stuff)
3 advice... use spruce, dont use a heavier wood, or think you have to beef
p the design, it's been flying for 80 yrs.
4 advice... build to the plans..
5 advice... build light
6 advice... build to the plans....
7 advice... have fun and involve your family (if applicable)
8 advice... build to the plans.....
ouwe
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| Subject: | Re: Continental A-65 and Stromberg carb for sale |
Ryan, sounds like a great buy! I spent $6,000 rebuilding mine. Do you
mind if I post this on the flybaby site?
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Ryan Mueller
To: Pietenpol List
Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2010 12:36 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Continental A-65 and Stromberg carb for sale
Good evening all,
We have a Continental A-65 for sale if any might be interested. Here
is the info on the engine:
We purchased it from a couple in Florida last year; they had removed
it from their Cub to install a larger engine. The engine has logs back
to day one (6-11-46), with 1505TT, and 709SMOH (majored in '57). It was
removed from the J-3 in 2002. It looks like part of the reason for it's
low time is that the Cub it was attached to was damaged in a storm in
'69, and didn't get rebuilt until '93. Other than that the logs are
pretty uneventful. The engine is complete, except for the carb and
magneto harnesses. Apparently they swapped those items out on to the
replacement engine. Here is a pic:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2314248/IMG_1200resize.jpg
That's how it sits right now, in the shipping crate and ready to go.
The mags are in the box in the image, they are Bendix mags, and I have
no reason to doubt that they work; they worked fine when the engine was
removed from the airplane. We are asking $3,000 for it, which is exactly
the amount we paid for it.
As I mentioned, it does not come with a carb. We do also have a carb
for sale, either with the engine or separately. It's a Stromberg
NA-S3A1, that has been overhauled and yellow-tagged by Russ Romey at D&G
Supply in Niles, MI. Corvair enthusiasts may recognize that shop as the
go-to place for Corvair conversion carb overhauls, and that is why we
sent it there. It is currently set up for a Corvair, which means
equivalent to a C-85. I talked with Russ about changing it over to A-65
configuration, and he said it would cost about $100. I think it's mainly
a venturi change, is all. The carburetor is available for $600. We paid
$200 for the core, and $475 to have it overhauled, as it was missing the
throttle arm and main needle.
If you might be interested in either please email me and we can
discuss further. Have a good evening!
Ryan
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| Subject: | Re: Continental A-65 and Stromberg carb for sale |
Hi Gene,
Yes please. Go ahead and cut out the part about the carb. It has found
a good home!
Thank you,
Ryan
Do not archive
Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 28, 2010, at 8:56 AM, "Gene & Tammy" <zharvey@bentoncountycable.net
> wrote:
> Ryan, sounds like a great buy! I spent $6,000 rebuilding mine. Do
> you mind if I post this on the flybaby site?
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ryan Mueller
> To: Pietenpol List
> Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2010 12:36 AM
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Continental A-65 and Stromberg carb for sale
>
> Good evening all,
>
> We have a Continental A-65 for sale if any might be interested. Here
> is the info on the engine:
>
> We purchased it from a couple in Florida last year; they had removed
> it from their Cub to install a larger engine. The engine has logs
> back to day one (6-11-46), with 1505TT, and 709SMOH (majored in
> '57). It was removed from the J-3 in 2002. It looks like part of the
> reason for it's low time is that the Cub it was attached to was
> damaged in a storm in '69, and didn't get rebuilt until '93. Other
> than that the logs are pretty uneventful. The engine is complete,
> except for the carb and magneto harnesses. Apparently they swapped
> those items out on to the replacement engine. Here is a pic:
>
> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2314248/IMG_1200resize.jpg
>
> That's how it sits right now, in the shipping crate and ready to go.
> The mags are in the box in the image, they are Bendix mags, and I
> have no reason to doubt that they work; they worked fine when the
> engine was removed from the airplane. We are asking $3,000 for it,
> which is exactly the amount we paid for it.
>
> As I mentioned, it does not come with a carb. We do also have a carb
> for sale, either with the engine or separately. It's a Stromberg NA-
> S3A1, that has been overhauled and yellow-tagged by Russ Romey at
> D&G Supply in Niles, MI. Corvair enthusiasts may recognize that shop
> as the go-to place for Corvair conversion carb overhauls, and that
> is why we sent it there. It is currently set up for a Corvair, which
> means equivalent to a C-85. I talked with Russ about changing it
> over to A-65 configuration, and he said it would cost about $100. I
> think it's mainly a venturi change, is all. The carburetor is
> available for $600. We paid $200 for the core, and $475 to have it
> overhauled, as it was missing the throttle arm and main needle.
>
> If you might be interested in either please email me and we can
> discuss further. Have a good evening!
>
> Ryan
>
>
> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
> href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
> href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://
> www.matronics.com/c
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| Subject: | New Member Lurking on the Lists |
Gary: where are you located? It helps you get
more help if you have other builders/pilots
nearby, so if you'll indicate where you're
located, nearby builders might respond.
Oscar Zuniga
Air Camper NX41CC
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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| Subject: | Re: Cloudcars prop on N502R |
Jerry, sorry it took me so long to get back with you. He will "skin" the
prop with glass if you wish.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jerry Dotson" <jdotson@erec.net>
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 9:38 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Cloudcars prop on N502R
>
> Gene what did he put on the leading edge for protection? I can't ell in
> the photo. Just wondering. Boy that thing is purty.
>
> --------
> Jerry Dotson
> 59 Daniel Johnson Rd
> Baker, FL 32531
>
> Started building NX510JD July, 2009
> Ribs and tailfeathers done
> using Lycoming O-235
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=291515#291515
>
>
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| Subject: | William Wynne Corvair conversion parts for sale |
Hello all,
We have unfortunately decided to put our Corvair conversion parts up for
sale. We just cannot get out to our shop enough to make any meaningful
progress on our Pietenpol...at the rate we are going it will be years and
years before we would ever finish. We're putting our build on hiatus, until
we are living in a space more conducive to being able to work on the project
every day. However we still want to have a Piet to fly until such time as we
can build our own, and we do have space to hangar an airplane, so we are
going to look to purchase a complete, flying Piet. Being able to "liquidate
the asset" that is our Corvair conversion will get us a large chunk of the
money needed to purchase a flying Pietenpol. We are asking $6,000 for
everything.
So, here is a list of what we have:
Crankcase: hot-tanked clean at an aircraft engine repair station, inspected
by WW and deemed serviceable. 9 out of 12 upper head studs removed due to
corrosion. One threaded hole for an upper stud was damaged during removal.
This hole was time-serted and a serviceable used stud was installed by Mark
at Falcon. The threads in the remaining holes look good. I have at least 12
serviceable used upper head studs that were removed from junk cases using
less than the maximum torque recommended by WW to avoid twisting the stud
(45 ft/lbs, I think?).
Crankshaft: magnafluxed and ground .10/.10, shot peened, balanced, polished,
and tapped for safety shaft by Quinlin Automotive in Indianapolis.
Ion-nitrided at Advanced Nitriding Solutions, with a batch Larry Hudson took
in.
Cylinder heads: overhauled by Mark at Falcon Machine, with the welded intake
tubes. (if you saw Mark's setup at Oshkosh last year you saw one of the
heads: it was his display head)
5th Bearing: Weseman BTA 5th bearing
Camshaft: new OT-10 with standard gear, new lifters
Cylinders, pistons & rods: +.30 cylinders from Clark's, forged pistons
(balanced to 1 gram spread) installed on Clark's reconditioned and balanced
(1 gram spread) connecting rods
Oil Pump: Pro-Flow high volume pump from Clark's
All other overhaul parts needed from Clark's (gaskets, bearings, seals, etc)
All other engine parts have been cleaned and inspected (pushrods, rocker
arms, rear accessory cover, etc)
Harmonic Balancer: Rebuilt by Dale Mfg
John Deere dynamo
WW Parts:
Stainless Intake Manifold setup for Stromberg/Marvel carbs
Gold Prop Hub - Modified by the Wesemans for use with their 5th bearing
Gold Oil Filter Housing
Gold Oil Cooler Sandwich Adapter Assy
Niagara Oil Cooler
Alternator Brackets
Ring Gear
Top Cover
Starter Brackets
Safety Shaft
Hybrid Studs
Gold CNC Billet Oil Pan
Oil Pan Installation kit w/ rebent pickup
E/P distributor
Starter w/ fine tooth gear installed
The only thing we have ordered that we do not have yet are the E/P
Distributor, and the starter with the fine-tooth gear installed. William
Wynne just emailed this morning and noted that those two items have been
shipped, so we should have them shortly. This is everything you need to
build a top-notch Corvair aircraft engine, and no waiting for parts. In case
you do now know, there is a significant lead time for many of these parts.
The cylinder heads took 1 year, and some of the WW parts are more than a
year. Again, we are asking $6,000 for the lot.
William Wynne and Dan Weseman had the following to say on the Corvaircraft
list this morning:
-----------------------------
Friends,
I know Ryan pretty well and have seen his stuff first person, up close. I
consider his engine project first class, and a very good deal. The two parts
that he had on order with us have been shipped, so everything will be on
hand for the buyer. I am not happy to see Ryan's urban residence vs distant
workshop situation get him out of building now, but I have a strong feeling
we will have in the Corvair movement in the long term. I will gladly
support the buyer of the project through the assembly process. If someone
pays Ryan's asking price in a friendly and timely manner, I will consider
making the engine the demo assembly at the next Corvair college in the
buyers area. If someone wanted to pay a skilled person to assemble and test
the engine there are a lot of options like Brady on the West coast or Mark
from Falcon in the Midwest.
In the interest of full disclosure, I never offer an opinion for money or
favors, and my comments here are just in support of a friend, we never
accept any commission on the resale or assistance of sale of Corvair parts.
There are a lot of shady people out there offering to resell a "$3,500
Corvair engine for a friend" which is junk. Ryan is the polar opposite of
this, and I just wanted to step in and say so.
Thank you.
William Wynne
5000-18 HWY 17 #247
Orange Park, FL 32003
-----
Hi guys I also wanted to add that anyone buying The Muellers parts , Which
includes our 5thbearing , Will have full support from us for install and
service questions etc . Sorry to see the Muellers leave for a while but....
i can never argue with the decision to go flying now vs later ! Ryan be
sure to send us some photo's of your new Piet Thanks
Dan Weseman
---------------------------------
Please contact me if you are interested, either via email or on the phone.
Thanks,
Ryan Mueller
rmueller23@gmail.com
815-298-1483
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Good Day Piet Posters,
Here's a pretty obvious question for everyone. That is, obvious to everyone but
me.
Thinking about saving weight everywhere I can and contemplating using an electronic
Tach.
Small plastic housing, solid state, no tach cable, weighs 70 percent less than
conventional, but with no electric system, where do I hook it up.
On my car, I just connect one side to distributor and the other side to ground.
Then tell the unit, with a switch built in or wiring method, that it is a 4,
6, or 8 cylinder.
Question is would the hot side of a Magneto equate to the pos. side of the distributor?
Then there's the Hobbs meter---same question, I could even supple it with a battery
power, but does an electronic Hobbs read off the mag?
2nd subject for discussion--- I'm concerned about weight because I really want
to use motorcycle wheels. To me that is the ultimate antique look. I have 2 -
19 inch wheels with built in brake hubs. They weigh 17 pounds apiece without tire.
So I'll be looking for weight savers everywhere. While building to plans
of course.
This is a GN-1 with A-65 and wood prop ( thanks OZ) so right there I'm 85 pounds
less than with model A.
By the way, can anyone out there build an aluminum tank?
Jeff Wilson
GN-1
St. Louis, MO
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Good Day Piet Posters,
Here's a pretty obvious question for
everyone. That is, obvious to everyone but me.
Thinking about saving
weight everywhere I can and contemplating using an electronic Tach.
Small
plastic housing, solid state, no tach cable, weighs 70 percent less
than conventional, but with no electric system, where do I hook it up.
On
my car, I just connect one side to distributor and the other side to
ground. Then tell the unit, with a switch built in or wiring method,
that it is a 4, 6, or 8 cylinder.
Question is would the hot side of a
Magneto equate to the pos. side of the distributor?
Then there's the
Hobbs meter---same question, I could even supple it with a battery
power, but does an electronic Hobbs read off the mag?
2nd subject
for discussion--- I'm concerned about weight because I really want to
use motorcycle
wheels. To me that is the ultimate antique look. I have 2 - 19 inch
wheels with built in brake hubs. They weigh 17 pounds apiece without
tire. So I'll be looking for weight savers everywhere. While building to
plans of course.
This is a GN-1 with A-65 and wood prop ( thanks OZ)
so right there I'm 85 pounds less than with model A.
By the way, can
anyone out there build an aluminum tank?
Jeff Wilson
GN-1
St. Louis, MO
PS- re-sent 'cause I left out the subject line earlier and
if you are like me and hate viruses you won't open an email
without a subject line. I call it "tech paranoia".
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| Subject: | Re: Tach Question |
an obvious simple light and cheap one is the Tinytach , it simply has a single
wire lead that wraps around one plug wire.an internal battery that lasts several
years and it turns itself off after shutdown. I have used 2 on 2 different
Rotaxes in a Rans and a Challenger I fly now. the bad news is I have heard they
don't work well on a engine like the Corvair. I'd sure be trying one out on
mine, but the plane has an electronic instrument panel already. EIS I believe.hopefully
before the end of the year I'll get a chance to fly it. Raymond
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| Subject: | Re: Tach Question |
If I recall correctly, PF Beck was using a Tinytach wit his Corvair
several years ago with no problems from what he told me then. Don't
know if that's still his setup or not.
Kip Gardner
On Mar 28, 2010, at 4:56 PM, skellytown flyer wrote:
> <skellflyer1@yahoo.com>
>
> an obvious simple light and cheap one is the Tinytach , it simply
> has a single wire lead that wraps around one plug wire.an internal
> battery that lasts several years and it turns itself off after
> shutdown. I have used 2 on 2 different Rotaxes in a Rans and a
> Challenger I fly now. the bad news is I have heard they don't work
> well on a engine like the Corvair. I'd sure be trying one out on
> mine, but the plane has an electronic instrument panel already.
> EIS I believe.hopefully before the end of the year I'll get a
> chance to fly it. Raymond
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=292123#292123
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Cloudcars prop on N502R |
Thanks Gene. I hope it will be Ok. I will be operating 99% of the time off grass.
--------
Jerry Dotson
59 Daniel Johnson Rd
Baker, FL 32531
Started building NX510JD July, 2009
Ribs and tailfeathers done
using Lycoming O-235
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| Subject: | Re: New Member Lurking on the Lists |
Gary,
Welcome. You will find this to be a great list and a tremendous resource.
I agree with Rick's and John's posts above. Get the plans and some material and
get into the process as soon as you can. You already know that a home-built
aircraft can take 20 years. If you have your time and some resources invested
it will be incentive to keep plugging along.
I have wanted to build since 1968 and put it off until I purchased someones project
4 years ago. If I had started when I first had the dream I would have been
done twice. I always thought I could not afford it but it is a lot easier
to put out a little money at a time over a longer period of time. I will also
emphasize the importance of EAA. I belonged to the national organization for
years but not a local until 6 years ago. Your local guys and gals will be tremendous
encouragement.
I would also add that if you do not have your license, try to carve out the resources
to do that. Sport pilot may be a good way to go if you can find a school
in your area. Flying different kinds of airplanes also may be informative
as to what kind of flying you will want to do. I was fortunate and had my private
license before I even knew EAA existed. Being able to get into the air kept
my dream alive.
Originally I thought building would be an inexpensive way to own an airplane.
Now I realize that building is for the sake of building and flying what you have
built. In all of these years of dreaming I owned 5 factory built airplanes
which allowed me to perfect my skills and get a lot of experience, but flying
my GN-1 when it is finished, I expect will rank right up there as one of my
favorite accomplishments. Good Luck and good building.
Jon Coxwell
--------
Jon Coxwell
GN-1 Builder
Recycle and preserve the planet
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| Subject: | Re: New Member Lurking on the Lists |
Welcome to the List, Gary.
You begin by stating that you have not built an airplane before - well, that immediately
gives you something in common with a lot of us (maybe most of us). It
seems that most Pietenpol builders are first time builders. The construction
is fairly basic - just like building a BIG model airplane, except you won't need
to use giant Tee-pins. The Questair Venture is most definitely a unique aircraft,
and surely more complex than a Pietenpol. Both are sure to gather a crowd
at a fly-in.
Like the others have said, move "order the plans" up to the top of your list of
things to do. Once you get them, and study them a bit, you'll come up with a
bunch of questions. When you do come up with the questions, check out the Matronics
Pietenpol List Archives. There is a very useful search function that will
most likely result in answers to your questions. If you can't find answers there,
then post your question here, and somebody will most likely know exactly
what you're asking about.
Bill C.
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| Subject: | Re: New Member Lurking on the Lists |
David,
That seems like a strange response to Gary's question.
This IS the Pietenpol List - which means it is about building and flying a two-seat,
open cockpit, antiquey plane that, under certain circumstances can reach
speeds approaching that of an average car.
I don't think anyone builds a Pietenpol expecting it to transport a whole family
(plus friends) in enclosed, heated comfort, in half the time that a car takes.
What it CAN do is transport the pilot (and one lucky passenger at a time) back
in time, to a simpler age, when getting there in a hurry wasn't so important
-back to the days when flying was more appreciated for the wonder that it really
is. Flying in a Pietenpol (or any similar open cockpit airplane, for that
matter) is an entirely different experience than flying in any enclosed "Spam
can".
In my opinion, if you're only going to have one airplane (which, by the way, is
one more than most people), get (or even better, build) one that will give you
a thrill every time you fly it, rather than be a practical mode of transportation
from A to B. If you're looking for a mode of transportation, there are plenty
of airlines that can provide that service much more economically than owning
your own plane. I don't know of any airline that can provide the experience
that a Pietenpol ride can.
Bill C.
dpaule(at)frii.com
PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 11:10 am Post subject: New Member Lurking on the
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If you're only going to have one airplane, get one with more seats than your family,
so you can take friends along as well as family.
Make sure that it has a closed cockpit and a heater, so that you can actually use
it in a practical manner.
It should have a cruise speed of at least twice the speed of a car, point to
point, or else it won't get used for traveling. The "at least" is pretty
important, by the way.
David Paule
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