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1. 04:52 AM - Charm of the Piet (helspersew@aol.com)
2. 05:03 AM - Re: Charm of the Piet (Ryan Mueller)
3. 05:58 AM - Re: Charm of the Piet (Bill Church)
4. 06:31 AM - Re: New Member Lurking on the Lists (gtche98)
5. 06:54 AM - Re: Re: Charm of the Piet (Gary Boothe)
6. 06:54 AM - Re: Re: Charm of the Piet (Gary Boothe)
7. 07:49 AM - Re: Re: New Member Lurking on the Lists (David Paule)
8. 07:49 AM - welcome Gary (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation])
9. 07:49 AM - Re: Re: New Member Lurking on the Lists (Richard Schreiber)
10. 07:52 AM - Re: Re: New Member Lurking on the Lists (Dan Yocum)
11. 08:06 AM - Re: New Member Lurking on the Lists (gtche98)
12. 08:24 AM - Re: New Member Lurking on the Lists (Bill Church)
13. 08:48 AM - Re: Re: New Member Lurking on the Lists (Rick Holland)
14. 08:53 AM - Re: Re: New Member Lurking on the Lists (AMsafetyC@aol.com)
15. 08:54 AM - Re: welcome Gary (Dan Yocum)
16. 09:10 AM - Re: Charm of the Piet (Bill Church)
17. 09:55 AM - Re: Re: New Member Lurking on the Lists (David Paule)
18. 10:47 AM - Re: Re: New Member Lurking on the Lists (Jim Markle)
19. 01:34 PM - new pipes for N8031! (Dan Yocum)
20. 01:42 PM - Re: new pipes for N8031! (Jeff Boatright)
21. 01:48 PM - Re: new pipes for N8031! (Ryan Mueller)
22. 01:51 PM - Re: new pipes for N8031! (AMsafetyC@aol.com)
23. 02:25 PM - Re: new pipes for N8031! (Dan Yocum)
24. 06:15 PM - Re: Re: New Member Lurking on the Lists (Chris)
25. 06:47 PM - Re: Re: New Member Lurking on the Lists (Kip and Beth Gardner)
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Subject: | Charm of the Piet |
Bill,
I didn't think an egg-headed engineer like yourself could have written so
eloquently. Do you have a ghost writer?
What it CAN do is transport the pilot (and one lucky passenger at a time)
back
in time, to a simpler age, when getting there in a hurry wasn't so importa
nt
-back to the days when flying was more appreciated for the wonder that it
really
is. Flying in a Pietenpol (or any similar open cockpit airplane, for that
matter) is an entirely different experience than flying in any enclosed "S
pam
can".
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
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Subject: | Re: Charm of the Piet |
Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!
I agree, well written Bill.
Ryan
do not archive
On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 6:25 AM, <helspersew@aol.com> wrote:
> Bill,
>
> I didn't think an egg-headed engineer like yourself could have written so
> eloquently. Do you have a ghost writer?
>
> What it CAN do is transport the pilot (and one lucky passenger at a time)
> back
> in time, to a simpler age, when getting there in a hurry wasn't so
> important
> -back to the days when flying was more appreciated for the wonder that it
> really
> is. Flying in a Pietenpol (or any similar open cockpit airplane, for that
> matter) is an entirely different experience than flying in any enclosed
> "Spam
> can".
> Dan Helsper
> Poplar Grove, IL.
>
>
> *
>
> *
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Charm of the Piet |
Dan,
Thanks... I think.
"Egg-headed" ???
How eloquent.
Would you LIKE to have a ghost writer?
Bill C.
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Subject: | Re: New Member Lurking on the Lists |
Thanks to all for your warm welcome and thoughtful advice. I very much appreciate
it, and look forward to getting to know each of you in the upcoming days,
months, years.
To those that have recommended getting the plans first, I will certainly take that
into consideration. I am considering this a long term project, and live only
minutes from Oshkosh and hours from Brodhead, so neither of these will be
significant excursions for me (thankfully), and I anticipate being at both every
year for the foreseeable future. Having said that, you all have me wanting
to dive into the plans right now, so we may have to move that one up the list.
Oscar - As mentioned at the end of my original post ( [Wink] ), I am in Greenville,
WI. I have already received a private email from a Piet builder in Greenville,
which was the holy grail email I was looking for...I will be making arrangements
to meet up with this individual in the near future. I would love to
know if there are any others in this area. Also, my understanding is that Doc
Mosher is a member of the Oshkosh EAA chapter, so that is probably where I will
secure my local chapter membership.
David and Bill - Thank you both for your insights. I had to chuckle just a little
bit when David used the word "practical" to refer to an airplane. [Laughing]
Unfortunately, in order to follow David's advice (which I would love to
do), I would be in the market for a Saratoga, and the budget definately does
not support that. No, the Air Camper will be a family airplane in that the entire
family will build it and (hopefully) develop a love for low and slow flying,
one family member at a time.
Thanks again for welcoming me into the fold!
Gary
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Subject: | Re: Charm of the Piet |
"Ouch!"...tough crowd this morning....
Gary Boothe
Cool, CA
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
18 ribs done
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Church
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 5:57 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Charm of the Piet
Dan,
Thanks... I think.
"Egg-headed" ???
How eloquent.
Would you LIKE to have a ghost writer?
Bill C.
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Subject: | Re: Charm of the Piet |
"Ouch!"...tough crowd this morning....
Gary Boothe
Cool, CA
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
18 ribs done
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Church
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 5:57 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Charm of the Piet
Dan,
Thanks... I think.
"Egg-headed" ???
How eloquent.
Would you LIKE to have a ghost writer?
Bill C.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=292185#292185
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Subject: | Re: New Member Lurking on the Lists |
As I recall, he used the phrase "family airplane."
David Paule
> <billspiet@sympatico.ca>
>
> That seems like a strange response to Gary's question.
> This IS the Pietenpol List - which means it is about building and flying a
> two-seat, open cockpit, antiquey plane that, under certain circumstances
> can reach speeds approaching that of an average car.
> I don't think anyone builds a Pietenpol expecting it to transport a whole
> family (plus friends) in enclosed, heated comfort, in half the time that a
> car takes.....
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Gary,
Welcome to the list. A great source of photos already exists of Pietenpols that
Chris Tracy has so kindly posted for us all and you don't have to even step
foot outside your house to hundreds and hundreds of great photos of all kinds
of different Piets and Piet building ideas for you.
http://www.westcoastpiet.com/
To order plans, the Pietenpol family web site is here:
http://www.pressenter.com/~apietenp/
Lastly, save yourself tons of time and money by having the Sportplane Builder series
of books by Tony Bingelis at your side during building. These books were
instrumental in helping answer a zillion of my questions without ever having
to post, ask, or wander around wondering what my options were or how I should
go about a certain part of the building process. Don't rely on old wives tales
or heresay---go to these books. You'll get the straight poop without any BS
and there are great sketches, diagrams, and a complete index to guide you to
your answers.
There are FOUR books in this series and I highly recommend getting the whole enchilada
right up front. Merry Christmas.
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/menus/bv/books_bingelis.html
If you're not a pilot Gary or don't have any tailwheel time I would visit Steve
Krog at Hartford, WI and take an hour of dual in one of his J-3 Cubs to see if
you even like low and slow old fashioned flying. Just a thought, your mileage
may vary.
http://www.sportpilot.org/learntofly/articles/070917_learning.html
Finally, don't listen to anything that Jim Markle, myself, or Jack Phillips posts.
Mike C.
NX48MC
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Subject: | Re: New Member Lurking on the Lists |
Gary:
I would buy these 2 publications from the EAA, the 1932 and 1933 Flying and
Glider Manuals. These are the Pietenpol publications from the early '30s.
They included the plans plus construction notes. For only $6.95 each, its
well worth the price. Some have actually built from these publications
alone, though if you purchase the plans, you will not only have more
detail, but also all of the plan updates. Here is a link
http://www.shopeaa.com/search.aspx?find=pietenpol
Rick Schreiber
Valparaiso, IN
> [Original Message]
> From: gtche98 <garywilson213@yahoo.com>
> To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Date: 3/29/2010 8:32:19 AM
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: New Member Lurking on the Lists
>
>
> Thanks to all for your warm welcome and thoughtful advice. I very much
appreciate it, and look forward to getting to know each of you in the
upcoming days, months, years.
>
> To those that have recommended getting the plans first, I will certainly
take that into consideration. I am considering this a long term project,
and live only minutes from Oshkosh and hours from Brodhead, so neither of
these will be significant excursions for me (thankfully), and I anticipate
being at both every year for the foreseeable future. Having said that, you
all have me wanting to dive into the plans right now, so we may have to
move that one up the list.
>
> Oscar - As mentioned at the end of my original post ( [Wink] ), I am in
Greenville, WI. I have already received a private email from a Piet
builder in Greenville, which was the holy grail email I was looking for...I
will be making arrangements to meet up with this individual in the near
future. I would love to know if there are any others in this area. Also,
my understanding is that Doc Mosher is a member of the Oshkosh EAA chapter,
so that is probably where I will secure my local chapter membership.
>
> David and Bill - Thank you both for your insights. I had to chuckle just
a little bit when David used the word "practical" to refer to an airplane.
[Laughing] Unfortunately, in order to follow David's advice (which I
would love to do), I would be in the market for a Saratoga, and the budget
definately does not support that. No, the Air Camper will be a family
airplane in that the entire family will build it and (hopefully) develop a
love for low and slow flying, one family member at a time.
>
> Thanks again for welcoming me into the fold!
>
> Gary
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=292189#292189
>
>
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Subject: | Re: New Member Lurking on the Lists |
Gary,
At the very least, if you don't feel like laying out $250 for the full
set of plans, buy the 1932 Flying and Glider Manual with the original
Pietenpol plans from the EAA:
http://www.shopeaa.com/1932flyingandglidermanual.aspx
It'll be the best $6.95 + S&H you'll ever spend. Heck, sounds like you
could save the S&H and drive over and pick it up yourself.
The other thing I suggest you do is check out Chris Tracy's excellent
Pietenpol web site, http://www.westcoastpiet.com. There are ton of
great photos of Piet details as well has hand drawn sketches of how
different builders came up different solutions to the same problems.
Good stuff.
Cheers,
Dan
On 03/29/2010 08:30 AM, gtche98 wrote:
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "gtche98"<garywilson213@yahoo.com>
>
> Thanks to all for your warm welcome and thoughtful advice. I very much appreciate
it, and look forward to getting to know each of you in the upcoming days,
months, years.
>
> To those that have recommended getting the plans first, I will certainly take
that into consideration. I am considering this a long term project, and live
only minutes from Oshkosh and hours from Brodhead, so neither of these will be
significant excursions for me (thankfully), and I anticipate being at both every
year for the foreseeable future. Having said that, you all have me wanting
to dive into the plans right now, so we may have to move that one up the list.
>
> Oscar - As mentioned at the end of my original post ( [Wink] ), I am in Greenville,
WI. I have already received a private email from a Piet builder in Greenville,
which was the holy grail email I was looking for...I will be making arrangements
to meet up with this individual in the near future. I would love
to know if there are any others in this area. Also, my understanding is that
Doc Mosher is a member of the Oshkosh EAA chapter, so that is probably where I
will secure my local chapter membership.
>
> David and Bill - Thank you both for your insights. I had to chuckle just a little
bit when David used the word "practical" to refer to an airplane. [Laughing]
Unfortunately, in order to follow David's advice (which I would love
to do), I would be in the market for a Saratoga, and the budget definately does
not support that. No, the Air Camper will be a family airplane in that the
entire family will build it and (hopefully) develop a love for low and slow flying,
one family member at a time.
>
> Thanks again for welcoming me into the fold!
>
> Gary
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=292189#292189
>
>
--
Dan Yocum
Fermilab 630.840.6509
yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
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Subject: | Re: New Member Lurking on the Lists |
Yup - Already have the 32 F&G Manual, and have read BPs article about 30 times!
Someone earlier in the thread had mentioned Chris's website and I am working my
way through it now. It will take quite some time as he has built up an impressive
vault of information.
Thanks for the information!
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Subject: | Re: New Member Lurking on the Lists |
Well, yeah, he did. But he also just finished saying that he had helped his Dad
build a two-seater airplane (over a twenty year period). That's what I assumed
was meant by "family" plane - that it was a family project.
Different interpretations of the same words, I guess.
Anyway, I think that holding out for a six-seater, 200mph airplane would mean NEVER
having an airplane, for the vast majority of us.
Bill C.
Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 6:49 am Post subject: New Member Lurking on the Lists
As I recall, he used the phrase "family airplane."
David Paule
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Subject: | Re: New Member Lurking on the Lists |
And as if you didn't already have enough recommended reading material
Gary, don't forget the book "The Peitenpol Story" by Chet Peak (who is
building a Pietenpol and attends Brodhead sometimes). All the rest of
his book are great too.
http://www.threepeakspub.com/
rick
On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 7:30 AM, gtche98 <garywilson213@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks to all for your warm welcome and thoughtful advice. I very much appreciate
it, and look forward to getting to know each of you in the upcoming days,
months, years.
>
> To those that have recommended getting the plans first, I will certainly take
that into consideration. I am considering this a long term project, and live
only minutes from Oshkosh and hours from Brodhead, so neither of these will be
significant excursions for me (thankfully), and I anticipate being at both every
year for the foreseeable future. Having said that, you all have me wanting
to dive into the plans right now, so we may have to move that one up the list.
>
> Oscar - As mentioned at the end of my original post ( [Wink] ), I am in Greenville,
WI. I have already received a private email from a Piet builder in Greenville,
which was the holy grail email I was looking for...I will be making arrangements
to meet up with this individual in the near future. I would love to
know if there are any others in this area. Also, my understanding is that Doc
Mosher is a member of the Oshkosh EAA chapter, so that is probably where I will
secure my local chapter membership.
>
> David and Bill - Thank you both for your insights. I had to chuckle just a little
bit when David used the word "practical" to refer to an airplane. [Laughing]
Unfortunately, in order to follow David's advice (which I would love to
do), I would be in the market for a Saratoga, and the budget definately does not
support that. No, the Air Camper will be a family airplane in that the entire
family will build it and (hopefully) develop a love for low and slow flying,
one family member at a time.
>
> Thanks again for welcoming me into the fold!
>
> Gary
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=292189#292189
>
>
--
Rick Holland
Castle Rock, Colorado
"Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"
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Subject: | Re: New Member Lurking on the Lists |
Actually the Piet qualifies quite well, during 1929 and 30 the auto didn't
travel much faster than 40 mph, young family, wife if she could stand the
ride, the first child or family dog. It all seems to fit quite well. Its an
airplane not a jet, but they didn't have Jets back in those days and if you
dressed properly as if you were riding in your open top car it was pretty
much the same environment. Except for the road dirt and dust in your face.
Here in Lancaster County Pa the roads contain more than dust and dirt, our
Amish community family and work transportation sees to that aspect.
John
In a message dated 3/29/2010 11:24:51 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
billspiet@sympatico.ca writes:
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Bill Church"
<billspiet@sympatico.ca>
Well, yeah, he did. But he also just finished saying that he had helped
his Dad build a two-seater airplane (over a twenty year period). That's what
I assumed was meant by "family" plane - that it was a family project.
Different interpretations of the same words, I guess.
Anyway, I think that holding out for a six-seater, 200mph airplane would
mean NEVER having an airplane, for the vast majority of us.
Bill C.
Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 6:49 am Post subject: New Member Lurking on
the Lists
As I recall, he used the phrase "family airplane."
David Paule
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Subject: | Re: welcome Gary |
On 03/29/2010 09:31 AM, Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace
Corporation] wrote:
> There are FOUR books in this series and I highly recommend getting the whole
enchilada right up front. Merry Christmas.
>
> http://www.aircraftspruce.com/menus/bv/books_bingelis.html
I'd add one more to that list, too. The "Wood Aircraft Building
Techniques" book:
http://www.shopeaa.com/woodaircraftbuildingtechniques.aspx
Dan
--
Dan Yocum
Fermilab 630.840.6509
yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
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Subject: | Re: Charm of the Piet |
(In the voice of Foghorn Leghorn)
Son, Ah say Son... That was a JOKE.
DO NOT ARCHIVE
I'm just a loud-mouthed schnook.
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Subject: | Re: New Member Lurking on the Lists |
That's probably why Cessna sold so many 172s. It's about twice as fast as a
car, holds a family of four with a little baggage, and has a heater and is
out of the wind. A Piper Tri-Pacer will do about the same thing. Your choice
of either for around $25,000, and there's financing available.
But a Pietenpol makes a great family project... just not a practical family
airplane. Try to imagine how a family with two children would go to an
airport 40 miles away for breakfast with one.
David Paule
>
> Anyway, I think that holding out for a six-seater, 200mph airplane would
> mean NEVER having an airplane, for the vast majority of us.
>
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Subject: | Re: New Member Lurking on the Lists |
And the Pietenpol design has been known to rescue a family (a wife and two small
children on one trip then the pilot went back for the father) from where they
were stranded during a snow storm once long ago...
So maybe that qualified as two adults and two children....
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From: AMsafetyC@aol.com
Sent: Mar 29, 2010 10:41 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: New Member Lurking on the Lists
Actually the Piet qualifies quite well, during 1929 and 30 the auto didn't
travel much faster than 40 mph, young family, wife if she could stand the ride,
the first child or family dog. It all seems to fit quite well. Its an airplane
not a jet, but they didn't have Jets back in those days and if you dressed
properly as if you were riding in your open top car it was pretty much the same
environment. Except for the road dirt and dust in your face. Here in Lancaster
County Pa the roads contain more than dust and dirt, our Amish community family
and work transportation sees to that aspect.
John
In a message dated 3/29/2010 11:24:51 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
billspiet@sympatico.ca writes:
-->
Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Bill Church"
<billspiet@sympatico.ca>
Well, yeah, he did. But he also just
finished saying that he had helped his Dad build a two-seater airplane (over
a
twenty year period). That's what I assumed was meant by "family" plane - that
it was a family project.
Different interpretations of the same words, I
guess.
Anyway, I think that holding out for a six-seater, 200mph
airplane would mean NEVER having an airplane, for the vast majority of
us.
Bill C.
Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 6:49
am Post subject: New Member Lurking on the Lists
As I recall,
he used the phrase "family airplane."
David
Paule
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Subject: | new pipes for N8031! |
So, the only credit I can take for these is the fact that I could take
the old pipes off, send them to the exhaust welder in Fla.
(http://www.flyoldplanes.com), and put the shiny new stainless ones on,
again.
But, dang! it feels good to be able to do some of the work myself on
*my* plane.
They look really cool, too.
Now if the winds would settle down this week, I'd go flying...
Cheers,
Dan
--
Dan Yocum
Fermilab 630.840.6509
yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
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Subject: | Re: new pipes for N8031! |
Those look great! Two questions: How does the carb heat get heat off
those stack? How much did they cost?
>So, the only credit I can take for these is the fact that I could
>take the old pipes off, send them to the exhaust welder in Fla.
>(http://www.flyoldplanes.com), and put the shiny new stainless ones
>on, again.
>
>But, dang! it feels good to be able to do some of the work myself on
>*my* plane.
>
>They look really cool, too.
>
>Now if the winds would settle down this week, I'd go flying...
>
>Cheers,
>Dan
>
>--
>Dan Yocum
>Fermilab 630.840.6509
>yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
>"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
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Jeffrey H. Boatright, Ph.D.
Associate Professor of Ophthalmology
Emory University School of Medicine
Editor-in-Chief
Molecular Vision
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Subject: | Re: new pipes for N8031! |
Congratulations Dan! Can't wait to hear how they sound. Looks good, and
aerodynamically efficient as well. :P
Ryan
do not archive
On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 3:33 PM, Dan Yocum <yocum@fnal.gov> wrote:
> So, the only credit I can take for these is the fact that I could take the
> old pipes off, send them to the exhaust welder in Fla. (
> http://www.flyoldplanes.com), and put the shiny new stainless ones on,
> again.
>
> But, dang! it feels good to be able to do some of the work myself on *my*
> plane.
>
> They look really cool, too.
>
> Now if the winds would settle down this week, I'd go flying...
>
> Cheers,
> Dan
>
> --
> Dan Yocum
> Fermilab 630.840.6509
> yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
> "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
>
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Subject: | Re: new pipes for N8031! |
Dan,
nice looking pipes. I wouldn't advertise them though.
Oh BTW I understand Markle is going to be in the Chicago area soon, I am
certain he's gonna love them. A lot!
John
In a message dated 3/29/2010 4:35:03 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
yocum@fnal.gov writes:
So, the only credit I can take for these is the fact that I could take
the old pipes off, send them to the exhaust welder in Fla.
(http://www.flyoldplanes.com), and put the shiny new stainless ones on,
again.
But, dang! it feels good to be able to do some of the work myself on
*my* plane.
They look really cool, too.
Now if the winds would settle down this week, I'd go flying...
Cheers,
Dan
--
Dan Yocum
Fermilab 630.840.6509
yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
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Subject: | Re: new pipes for N8031! |
I took the photos w/o the carb muff attached. You can see the scat hose
on the right hand side behind the pipe - that's where the old muff will
go, again.
Cost was about $100 less then an official FAA Repair Shop (I got a quote
from Dawley Aviation in Burlington). Oh, I should note, these are not
yellow tagged pipes. I did ask Sonny, the owner/welder, if he did "the
right thing" to shield the backs of the welds with argon and he verified
that he did.
Lucky for me, I know Markle doesn't need A65 pipes, using that old Ford
that he is. Whew! Now, the impending addition of that other Piet at my
airport... those guys, I'll have to worry about!
;-)
Cheers,
Dan
On 03/29/2010 03:42 PM, Jeff Boatright wrote:
>
> Those look great! Two questions: How does the carb heat get heat off
> those stack? How much did they cost?
>
>
>> So, the only credit I can take for these is the fact that I could take
>> the old pipes off, send them to the exhaust welder in Fla.
>> (http://www.flyoldplanes.com), and put the shiny new stainless ones
>> on, again.
>>
>> But, dang! it feels good to be able to do some of the work myself on
>> *my* plane.
>>
>> They look really cool, too.
>>
>> Now if the winds would settle down this week, I'd go flying...
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Dan
>>
>> --
>> Dan Yocum
>> Fermilab 630.840.6509
>> yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
>> "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
>
--
Dan Yocum
Fermilab 630.840.6509
yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
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Subject: | Re: New Member Lurking on the Lists |
I can imagine a family with two children going an airport 40 miles away for
breakfast would look something like this.
http://westcoastpiet.com/images/Frank%20Pavliga/pav.jpg
Look closely, and count the people.
Chris
Sacramento,Ca
Westcoastpiet.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David Paule
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 9:49 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: New Member Lurking on the Lists
That's probably why Cessna sold so many 172s. It's about twice as fast as a
car, holds a family of four with a little baggage, and has a heater and is
out of the wind. A Piper Tri-Pacer will do about the same thing. Your choice
of either for around $25,000, and there's financing available.
But a Pietenpol makes a great family project... just not a practical family
airplane. Try to imagine how a family with two children would go to an
airport 40 miles away for breakfast with one.
David Paule
>
> Anyway, I think that holding out for a six-seater, 200mph airplane
> would mean NEVER having an airplane, for the vast majority of us.
>
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Subject: | Re: New Member Lurking on the Lists |
Yeah, from a while back though. Even if Frankie still doesn't have
much gray hair, the kids are MUCH bigger.
Do not archive
Kip Gardner
On Mar 29, 2010, at 9:14 PM, Chris wrote:
>
> I can imagine a family with two children going an airport 40 miles
> away for
> breakfast would look something like this.
>
> http://westcoastpiet.com/images/Frank%20Pavliga/pav.jpg
>
> Look closely, and count the people.
>
> Chris
> Sacramento,Ca
> Westcoastpiet.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> David Paule
> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 9:49 AM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: New Member Lurking on the Lists
>
>
> That's probably why Cessna sold so many 172s. It's about twice as
> fast as a
> car, holds a family of four with a little baggage, and has a heater
> and is
> out of the wind. A Piper Tri-Pacer will do about the same thing.
> Your choice
> of either for around $25,000, and there's financing available.
>
> But a Pietenpol makes a great family project... just not a
> practical family
> airplane. Try to imagine how a family with two children would go to an
> airport 40 miles away for breakfast with one.
>
> David Paule
>
>
>>
>> Anyway, I think that holding out for a six-seater, 200mph airplane
>> would mean NEVER having an airplane, for the vast majority of us.
>>
>
>
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