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1. 03:57 AM - Re: Douwe's piet...:( (helspersew@aol.com)
2. 05:58 AM - Douwe's piet...:( (Oscar Zuniga)
3. 06:50 AM - Re: Douwe's piet...:( (Gene & Tammy)
4. 07:41 AM - Re: Douwe's piet...:( (Michael Perez)
5. 07:48 AM - Ribs Available (dgaldrich)
6. 07:52 AM - Re: Douwe's piet...:( (Gary Boothe)
7. 08:08 AM - Re: Douwe's piet...:( (Pieti Lowell)
8. 09:12 AM - Re: Douwe's piet...:( (Barry Davis)
9. 09:42 AM - Re: Douwe's piet...:( (Bill Church)
10. 09:53 AM - Re: Douwe's piet...:( (helspersew@aol.com)
11. 10:04 AM - Re: Douwe's piet...:( (Pastor Mike Townsley)
12. 10:08 AM - Re: Douwe's piet...:( (Gene & Tammy)
13. 11:28 AM - Obfuscatory perambulation (TOM STINEMETZE)
14. 11:44 AM - Re: Obfuscatory perambulation (Gary Boothe)
15. 11:47 AM - Corvair Project for Sale (TOM STINEMETZE)
16. 11:58 AM - Douwe's Piet (Lawrence Williams)
17. 01:29 PM - ELTs (Mike King)
18. 01:29 PM - Re: Obfuscatory perambulation (Tim Willis)
19. 01:49 PM - Re: ELTs (Ryan Mueller)
20. 01:50 PM - Re: Douwe's piet...:( (Dan Yocum)
21. 02:04 PM - (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation])
22. 02:35 PM - Re: ELTs (Mike King)
23. 03:29 PM - Re: Douwe's piet...:( (walt)
24. 03:47 PM - Re: Douwe's piet...:( (Dan Yocum)
25. 04:35 PM - Re: Douwe's piet...:( (Dave and Connie)
26. 04:41 PM - Re: Obfuscatory perambulation (Michael Perez)
27. 04:44 PM - Re: ELTs (Jack Phillips)
28. 04:58 PM - Re: Douwe's piet...:( (Michael Perez)
29. 05:41 PM - weekend cowl work (Michael Groah)
30. 05:51 PM - Re: weekend cowl work (Jack Phillips)
31. 05:52 PM - Health issues (Gene & Tammy)
32. 05:57 PM - Re: Health issues (Tim Willis)
33. 06:10 PM - Re: ELTs (Jack)
34. 06:19 PM - Re: weekend cowl work (Gary Boothe)
35. 07:22 PM - Re: weekend cowl work (shad bell)
36. 07:32 PM - Re: weekend cowl work (Michael Groah)
37. 07:39 PM - Re: Douwe's Piet (shad bell)
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| Subject: | Re: Douwe's piet...:( |
Douwe,
I am so sorry to hear of this terrible news. Thank God nobody was hurt. I
can only imagine the anguish and numbness you must feel at this point. Ye
sterday was not good here either. That stupid wind got ahold of my Aeronca
tail, swung around and knocked off the weight I had on the Piet aft fusel
age. The fuse swung around and went up on its nose and the crank flange du
g into the asphalt. Now I have fuse damage to my newly-painted Piet to rep
air. Engine looks to be alright.
Not nearly as bad as yours, I consider myself lucky.
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
-----Original Message-----
From: Douwe Blumberg <douweblumberg@earthlink.net>
Sent: Sun, Apr 4, 2010 5:47 pm
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Douwe's piet...:(
hlink.net>
Well, good news and bad news...
Good news is Lowell is fine, bad news is my plane is pretty smashed up.
After some high speed runs and fiddling, Lowell popped her up and when
oming down got caught by a pretty good surprise gust which got him crooked
n touchdown, initiating a fairly mild groundloop. Unfortunately, what
ould have been a minor groundloop turned into major disaster due to an
nconveniently placed three foot deep muddy drainage ditch off the side of
he runway. This smashed the gear, smashed the prop, displaced the wing
orward and flipped her on her back.
Considering the whallop she took in the ditch, we are grateful that Lowell
ot away with nothing more than some bucked shins. (thank God for the tough
houlder harness I installed, please do this everybody)
Got a crane, put her in the hanger, had lunch and went home. I'll go back
n a few days once the reality sets in and I stop crying, take stock and tr
y
o figure out if I have the "gumption" left to rebuild her.
Learned a lot about building practices from seeing what gave way and what
eld up. Interesting note, the wood struts and cabanes came through intact
.
I really don't know what else to say at this point...
Douwe
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| Subject: | Douwe's piet...:( |
You knew I'd chime in, of course. I've been down
that road myself. I sent Corky payment for 41CC
on June 4, 2004 but wasn't able to make my first
flight in the airplane until February 4, 2007...
nearly 3 years later. I spent quite a bit of
that time rebuilding and repairing the airplane
after the nose-over and resulting damage, I
learned a lot, enjoyed all of the experience
except for the thirty seconds on the phone when
Charlie called me from out in the brush telling
me he'd bent the airplane, and the sixty seconds
it took for me to look the damaged airplane over
when I finally got to see it, all banged up.
There was never a doubt that I'd make the repairs
and fly it. And it sure is fun to fly a Piet!
That's the carrot. Some people who experience
a crunch just never recover and decide to walk
away. That thought never entered my mind... I
couldn't bear to leave a perfectly good, wounded
Piet to someone else's hands to repair.
You get up, dust yourself off, and make a list
of things that need attention. Later you refine
the list to things that affect airworthiness and
things that are mostly cosmetic, then you start
working on the list. I still have the list that
I made less than an hour after I first saw my
banged-up bird. The paper is grimy and smudged,
but each item is now lined through or checked off...
Oscar Zuniga
Air Camper NX41CC
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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| Subject: | Re: Douwe's piet...:( |
Douwe, This is not the way I intended to inform the group I'll be selling my
Piet. Three weeks ago, during a routine check-up, I was found to have (what
their calling) a rare, non-treatable cancer. Well guess what, I'M NOT
GIVING UP!! I WILL BEAT IT! I refuse to just lay down and give up all my
dreams and everything I've worked so hard for.
Douwe, if you give up and don't repair the damage, you don't deserve to own
or fly a Piet.
Gene In beautiful Tennessee
N502R
> <douweblumberg@earthlink.net>
>
> Well, good news and bad news...
>
> Good news is Lowell is fine, bad news is my plane is pretty smashed up.
>
> After some high speed runs and fiddling, Lowell popped her up and when
> coming down got caught by a pretty good surprise gust which got him
> crooked
> on touchdown, initiating a fairly mild groundloop. Unfortunately, what
> would have been a minor groundloop turned into major disaster due to an
> inconveniently placed three foot deep muddy drainage ditch off the side of
> the runway. This smashed the gear, smashed the prop, displaced the wing
> forward and flipped her on her back.
>
> Considering the whallop she took in the ditch, we are grateful that Lowell
> got away with nothing more than some bucked shins. (thank God for the
> tough
> shoulder harness I installed, please do this everybody)
>
> Got a crane, put her in the hanger, had lunch and went home. I'll go back
> in a few days once the reality sets in and I stop crying, take stock and
> try
> to figure out if I have the "gumption" left to rebuild her.
>
> Learned a lot about building practices from seeing what gave way and what
> held up. Interesting note, the wood struts and cabanes came through
> intact.
>
> I really don't know what else to say at this point...
>
> Douwe
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Douwe's piet...:( |
"Douwe, if you give up and don't repair the damage, you don't deserve to own
or fly a Piet."
I feel for both of you fine people. Life can be very cruel at times, I don't think
people need to be.
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Hi Gang
I have acquired a full set of Piet ribs built by, I believe, Charlie Rubek. They
are not new by any means but look to be serviceable. The only thing is that
the spar spacing is 30 inches. I haven't measured carefully but it looks as
if the rear spar was moved back so the ailerons would be slightly undersized.
Will take more careful measurements if needed. If anyone wants or needs them,
I can bring them to SunnFun. I'm asking the exact price I paid which was 1
(one) handshake. They have a lovely patina and would make excellent display
pieces if you didn't want to use them for real. If anyone is interested, let
me know. I'll post pics if I can before SnF.
Dave Aldrich
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| Subject: | Douwe's piet...:( |
It's called, "Kick-in-the-Butt Therapy." Considering the news that Gene just
announced, I think he gets a 'Pass'.
Best wishes, Gene.
Gary Boothe
Cool, Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion, mounted
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
(18 ribs down.)
Do not archive
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael
Perez
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 7:41 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Douwe's piet...:(
"Douwe, if you give up and don't repair the damage, you don't deserve to own
or fly a Piet."
I feel for both of you fine people. Life can be very cruel at times, I don't
think people need to be.
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| Subject: | Re: Douwe's piet...:( |
Douwe,
Do we need that inspector again ? or is once enough ?
Pieti Lowell w/ shin scratches and damaged EGO.
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| Subject: | Douwe's piet...:( |
Douwe
Sorry to hear this news. Don't worry, you are not the first to do this or
will be the last.(I'll tell you my story sometime) Maybe take a couple of
weeks away from it, then get back in with the repairs. This just adds
another chapter to your "building a Pietenpol" book.
Barry Davis
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Douwe
Blumberg
Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 6:47 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Douwe's piet...:(
--> <douweblumberg@earthlink.net>
Well, good news and bad news...
Good news is Lowell is fine, bad news is my plane is pretty smashed up.
After some high speed runs and fiddling, Lowell popped her up and when
coming down got caught by a pretty good surprise gust which got him crooked
on touchdown, initiating a fairly mild groundloop. Unfortunately, what
would have been a minor groundloop turned into major disaster due to an
inconveniently placed three foot deep muddy drainage ditch off the side of
the runway. This smashed the gear, smashed the prop, displaced the wing
forward and flipped her on her back.
Considering the whallop she took in the ditch, we are grateful that Lowell
got away with nothing more than some bucked shins. (thank God for the tough
shoulder harness I installed, please do this everybody)
Got a crane, put her in the hanger, had lunch and went home. I'll go back
in a few days once the reality sets in and I stop crying, take stock and try
to figure out if I have the "gumption" left to rebuild her.
Learned a lot about building practices from seeing what gave way and what
held up. Interesting note, the wood struts and cabanes came through intact.
I really don't know what else to say at this point...
Douwe
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| Subject: | Re: Douwe's piet...:( |
Man, is this a "bad news" thread or what?.
Here I was, feeling sorry for myself that, for the first time in eight years, I
would not be able to attend Brodhead this summer (due to family commitments).
My disappointment pales in comparison to what others are suffering through today.
I'll stop whining now.
First off, that must have been incredibly disappointing, Douwe. But, as you say,
the good news is that no one was hurt. Keep in mind Jack's story of overcoming
a very similar mishap, and then going on to be awarded a prize for outstanding
workmanship at Oshkosh. When you do get everything put back together, make
sure you don't use any stainless steel wool pads for carb heat.
And Dan, there are few things more aggravating than having to "fix" something that
wasn't quite finished yet. Kind of like that first "ding" in a new car.
And finally, Gene. What can I say other than all of our thoughts are with you as
you begin your battle. Your attitude will be your strongest asset. Hang in there.
Bill C.
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| Subject: | Re: Douwe's piet...:( |
Gene,
I am so sorry to hear of your health dilema. Many of our unforseen problem
s here on this earth can only take consolation in knowing that God is in
control. We are only here for the ride. I will be praying that He has it
in His plan to heal you, and good will come from the whole situation.
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
-----Original Message-----
From: Gene & Tammy <zharvey@bentoncountycable.net>
Sent: Mon, Apr 5, 2010 8:49 am
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Douwe's piet...:(
cable.net>
Douwe, This is not the way I intended to inform the group I'll be selling
my Piet. Three weeks ago, during a routine check-up, I was found to have
(what their calling) a rare, non-treatable cancer. Well guess what, I'M
NOT GIVING UP!! I WILL BEAT IT! I refuse to just lay down and give up all
my dreams and everything I've worked so hard for.
Douwe, if you give up and don't repair the damage, you don't deserve to ow
n or fly a Piet.
Gene In beautiful Tennessee
N502R
> <douweblumberg@earthlink.net>
>
> Well, good news and bad news...
>
> Good news is Lowell is fine, bad news is my plane is pretty smashed up.
>
> After some high speed runs and fiddling, Lowell popped her up and when
> coming down got caught by a pretty good surprise gust which got him > cr
ooked
> on touchdown, initiating a fairly mild groundloop. Unfortunately, what
> would have been a minor groundloop turned into major disaster due to an
> inconveniently placed three foot deep muddy drainage ditch off the side
of
> the runway. This smashed the gear, smashed the prop, displaced the wing
> forward and flipped her on her back.
>
> Considering the whallop she took in the ditch, we are grateful that Lowe
ll
> got away with nothing more than some bucked shins. (thank God for the >
tough
> shoulder harness I installed, please do this everybody)
>
> Got a crane, put her in the hanger, had lunch and went home. I'll go bac
k
> in a few days once the reality sets in and I stop crying, take stock and
> try
> to figure out if I have the "gumption" left to rebuild her.
>
> Learned a lot about building practices from seeing what gave way and wha
t
> held up. Interesting note, the wood struts and cabanes came through > in
tact.
>
> I really don't know what else to say at this point...
>
> Douwe
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Douwe's piet...:( |
Gene,
Dan relayed my thoughts exactly. God loves you and look to Him.
Sincerely
Mike Townsley
On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 11:52 AM, <helspersew@aol.com> wrote:
> Gene,
>
> I am so sorry to hear of your health dilema. Many of our unforseen problems
> here on this earth can only take consolation in knowing that God is in
> control. We are only here for the ride. I will be praying that He has it in
> His plan to heal you, and good will come from the whole situation.
> Dan Helsper
> Poplar Grove, IL.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gene & Tammy <zharvey@bentoncountycable.net>
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Mon, Apr 5, 2010 8:49 am
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Douwe's piet...:(
>
> zharvey@bentoncountycable.net>
>
> Douwe, This is not the way I intended to inform the group I'll be selling
> my Piet. Three weeks ago, during a routine check-up, I was found to have
> (what their calling) a rare, non-treatable cancer. Well guess what, I'M NOT
> GIVING UP!! I WILL BEAT IT! I refuse to just lay down and give up all my
> dreams and everything I've worked so hard for.
> Douwe, if you give up and don't repair the damage, you don't deserve to own
> or fly a Piet.
> Gene In beautiful Tennessee
> N502R
>
>
> > <douweblumberg@earthlink.net>
> >
> > Well, good news and bad news...
> >
> > Good news is Lowell is fine, bad news is my plane is pretty smashed up.
> >
> > After some high speed runs and fiddling, Lowell popped her up and when
> > coming down got caught by a pretty good surprise gust which got him >
> crooked
> > on touchdown, initiating a fairly mild groundloop. Unfortunately, what
> > would have been a minor groundloop turned into major disaster due to an
> > inconveniently placed three foot deep muddy drainage ditch off the side
> of
> > the runway. This smashed the gear, smashed the prop, displaced the wing
> > forward and flipped her on her back.
> >
> > Considering the whallop she took in the ditch, we are grateful that
> Lowell
> > got away with nothing more than some bucked shins. (thank God for the >
> tough
> > shoulder harness I installed, please do this everybody)
> >
> > Got a crane, put her in the hanger, had lunch and went home. I'll go
> back
> > in a few days once the reality sets in and I stop crying, take stock and
> > try
> > to figure out if I have the "gumption" left to rebuild her.
> >
> > Learned a lot about building practices from seeing what gave way and
> what
> > held up. Interesting note, the wood struts and cabanes came through >
> intact.
> >
> > I really don't know what else to say at this point...
> >
> > Douwe
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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| Subject: | Re: Douwe's piet...:( |
Michael, I just reread my post and I guess your right, I was a little
heavy handed. I didn't intend it that way, I was just trying to let
Douwe know that bad things do happen but if we don't give up, good
things can happen. If you give up, then only bad happens. I apologize
to Douwe and everyone else if I came across wrong.
It's so easy to give up and sometimes so hard to go on. I'm just not a
quitter and would hate to see someone like Douwe, who has worked so
hard, give up. In my mind, it would be much more cruel to Douwe if we
all just told him how bad we felt for him and let him give up, than if
we were to motivate him to move forward. Sometimes we all need a kick in
the butt, at least I do.
My Apologies to all I offended, no cruelness intended
Gene
N502R
----- Original Message -----
From: Michael Perez
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 9:41 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Douwe's piet...:(
"Douwe, if you give up and don't repair the damage, you don't
deserve to own
or fly a Piet."
I feel for both of you fine people. Life can be very cruel at
times, I don't think people need to be.
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| Subject: | Obfuscatory perambulation |
The gentleman in this video has been hired by the Crank Snappin' Corvair
Society (CS) to articulate our cause to the masses. I am sure that you
will all understand the veracity of our prognostications re: our choice
of motive appliance, once you hear him.
http://home.comcast.net/~steveham21/turbo.mpg
The real story is as follows:
Several years ago, Rockwell International decided to get into the heavy
duty transmission business. They were getting ready to tape a first
introduction video, and as a warm up, the professional narrator began
what has become a legend within the trucking industry. This man should
have won an academy award for his stellar performance. Now remember
this is strictly off the cuff, nothing is written down, this became the
biggest talk in the industry, vs the new product which they were
introducing.
Stinemetze
N328X
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| Subject: | Obfuscatory perambulation |
Yeah. what he said.
Gary Boothe
Cool, CA
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
18 ribs done
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of TOM
STINEMETZE
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 11:25 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Obfuscatory perambulation
The gentleman in this video has been hired by the Crank Snappin' Corvair
Society (CS=C2=B2) to articulate our cause to the masses. I am sure
that you will all understand the veracity of our prognostications re:
our choice of motive appliance, once you hear him.
http://home.comcast.net/~steveham21/turbo.mpg
The real story is as follows:
Several years ago, Rockwell International decided to get into the heavy
duty transmission business. They were getting ready to tape a first
introduction video, and as a warm up, the professional narrator began
what has become a legend within the trucking industry. This man should
have won an academy award for his stellar performance. Now remember
this is strictly off the cuff, nothing is written down, this became the
biggest talk in the industry, vs the new product which they were
introducing.
Stinemetze
N328X
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| Subject: | Corvair Project for Sale |
Listers:
As promised, I now have an early phase Corvair project for sale since I
purchased the "ready to assemble" project offered by Ryan Mueller. You
can browse my photos and descriptions via the attached link. You may also
hit the "UP" link in the left-hand menu bar to see much of the earlier
postings and work. The current asking price is $600 or $550 if you do not
want the original cast exhaust logs. The cost breakdown is as follows:
Original engine core - $100
Heads and crank machine work - $450
Rebuilt harmonic balancer - $90 (Clarks Corvair)
Full set new hydraulic lifters - $65 (eBay auction, California Corvairs)
Cast Exhaust Logs - $50 - (eBay auction)
As you can see, I am not asking what I now have in the engine, nor am I
asking anything for my own labor so far. I would like to have the space
for the new project, however, as my tiny shop doesn't have the room for
two engines at the same time.
If you are interested, contact me offline.
Tom Stinemetze
toms@mcpcity.com
http://www.eaa1344.com/corvair.htm
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Douwe-
-
That really bites!!! Don't be a John Greenlee and stuff it in a corner then
come and mope around Brodhead every year feeling sorry for yourself. (ARE
YOU LISTENING, JOHN??)
-
Maybe just bring the pieces back home one at a time and redo them. Soon you
will have all the pieces fixed and be ready to rock again.-Just don't gi
ve up, it's so easy to do but not a good decision in the long run. Get back
on that horse, man!!
-
I'll be in the neighborhood in a couple of weeks to get you cranked up.
-
Larry W.=0A=0A=0A
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Quick question. What is the current requirement for ELT? Do experimental
planes "require" an ELT?
My 12 year old went bad and will probably replace it with new technology
but what is the requirement regarding ELTs.?
Thank guys...
Mike King
GN-1
77K
Corpus Christi
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| Subject: | Re: Obfuscatory perambulation |
Tom,
Thanks. Have I had fun with this, back into former colleagues at AT&T Labs. This
guys is Cliff Claven on steroids.
Tim in central TX
do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: TOM STINEMETZE
Sent: Apr 5, 2010 2:24 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Obfuscatory perambulation
The gentleman in this video has been hired by the Crank Snappin' Corvair Society
(CS) to articulate our cause to the masses. I am sure that you will all understand
the veracity of our prognostications re: our choice of motive appliance,
once you hear him.
http://home.comcast.net/~steveham21/turbo.mpg
The real story is as follows:
Several years ago, Rockwell International decided to get into the heavy duty transmission
business. They were getting ready to tape a first introduction video,
and as a warm up, the professional narrator began what has become a legend
within the trucking industry. This man should have won an academy award for
his stellar performance. Now remember this is strictly off the cuff, nothing
is written down, this became the biggest talk in the industry, vs the new product
which they were introducing.
Stinemetze
N328X
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Experimental aircraft are required to have ELT's, unless for some reason you
are exempt per FAR 91.207:
http://rgl.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgFAR.nsf/0/0ca5c0070bd29144862569cf005f1030!OpenDocument&ExpandSection=2
<http://rgl.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgFAR.nsf/0/0ca5c0070bd29144862569cf005f1030!OpenDocument&ExpandSection=2>Odds
are you don't fall into one of the exempt categories, so you would have to
have one. Here is an article from EAA explaining where the ELT situation
sits today:
http://www.eaa.org/news/2009/2009-01-29_elt.asp
Ryan
<http://www.eaa.org/news/2009/2009-01-29_elt.asp>
On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 3:27 PM, Mike King <mikek120@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
> Quick question. What is the current requirement for ELT? Do experimental
> planes "require" an ELT?
>
> My 12 year old went bad and will probably replace it with new technology
> but what is the requirement regarding ELTs.?
>
>
> Thank guys...
>
> Mike King
> GN-1
> 77K
> Corpus Christi
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Douwe's piet...:( |
Ha, ha, Mike Cuy, ha, ha! How did you get Douwe's account information
so you could send this cruel, CRUEL joke email. Man, April Fool's is so
4 days ago! "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, grblble...
won't be fooled again!" Or, something like that...
Ok, ok. Enough from the Peanut Gallery.
Douwe, get back to work. We're behind you and we'll expect to see
regular progress reports. Yeah, it's painful, you get scraped knees
when you learn to ride a bike. You came this far, you can do another
mile.
Gene, I'm so, so sorry to hear about the cancer. I know you said it was
untreatable - is your doctor aware of, or think that it could be treated
by neutron or proton therapy? Fermilab has a neutron therapy facility
and Loma Linda does proton treatments (the accelerator was developed by
Fermi people).
Dan
On 04/04/2010 05:47 PM, Douwe Blumberg wrote:
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Douwe Blumberg"<douweblumberg@earthlink.net>
>
> Well, good news and bad news...
>
> Good news is Lowell is fine, bad news is my plane is pretty smashed up.
>
> After some high speed runs and fiddling, Lowell popped her up and when
> coming down got caught by a pretty good surprise gust which got him crooked
> on touchdown, initiating a fairly mild groundloop. Unfortunately, what
> would have been a minor groundloop turned into major disaster due to an
> inconveniently placed three foot deep muddy drainage ditch off the side of
> the runway. This smashed the gear, smashed the prop, displaced the wing
> forward and flipped her on her back.
>
> Considering the whallop she took in the ditch, we are grateful that Lowell
> got away with nothing more than some bucked shins. (thank God for the tough
> shoulder harness I installed, please do this everybody)
>
> Got a crane, put her in the hanger, had lunch and went home. I'll go back
> in a few days once the reality sets in and I stop crying, take stock and try
> to figure out if I have the "gumption" left to rebuild her.
>
> Learned a lot about building practices from seeing what gave way and what
> held up. Interesting note, the wood struts and cabanes came through intact.
>
> I really don't know what else to say at this point...
>
> Douwe
>
>
--
Dan Yocum
Fermilab 630.840.6509
yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
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We could only wish for Douwe that his post was an April Fool's Day joke. That
would have been the best
thing we could have heard is that it didn't actually happen.
Well with faith, ALL things ARE possible including the healing of Gene's medical
issues and the repairing
of Douwe's Piet, Dan Helsper's damage, and any other things that need attention
so I for one am rooting
for all of you by faith.
Mike C.
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Ryan,
Thanks for the response and the info. I will be shopping for an ELT
this week.
Thanks again.
Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: Ryan Mueller
Sent: Apr 5, 2010 4:48 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: ELTs
Experimental aircraft are required to have ELT's, unless for some reason you are
exempt per FAR 91.207:
http://rgl.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgFAR.nsf/0/0ca5c0070bd29144862569cf005f1030!OpenDocument&ExpandSection=2
Odds are you don't fall into one of the exempt categories, so you would have to
have one. Here is an article from EAA explaining where the ELT situation sits
today:
http://www.eaa.org/news/2009/2009-01-29_elt.asp
Ryan
On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 3:27 PM, Mike King <mikek120@mindspring.com> wrote:
Quick question. What is the current requirement for ELT? Do experimental
planes "require" an ELT?
My 12 year old went bad and will probably replace it with new technology
but what is the requirement regarding ELTs.?
Thank guys...
Mike King
GN-1
77K
Corpus Christi
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| Subject: | Re: Douwe's piet...:( |
Dan,
Sorry, I came in late,,,is this for real?
I guess I didn't get the joke.
Wow.
Let me know, please
walt evans
NX140DL
----- Original Message -----
From: Dan Yocum
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 4:50 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Douwe's piet...:(
Ha, ha, Mike Cuy, ha, ha! How did you get Douwe's account information
so you could send this cruel, CRUEL joke email. Man, April Fool's is
so
4 days ago! "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, grblble...
won't be fooled again!" Or, something like that...
Ok, ok. Enough from the Peanut Gallery.
Douwe, get back to work. We're behind you and we'll expect to see
regular progress reports. Yeah, it's painful, you get scraped knees
when you learn to ride a bike. You came this far, you can do another
mile.
Gene, I'm so, so sorry to hear about the cancer. I know you said it
was
untreatable - is your doctor aware of, or think that it could be
treated
by neutron or proton therapy? Fermilab has a neutron therapy facility
and Loma Linda does proton treatments (the accelerator was developed
by
Fermi people).
Dan
On 04/04/2010 05:47 PM, Douwe Blumberg wrote:
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Douwe
Blumberg"<douweblumberg@earthlink.net>
>
> Well, good news and bad news...
>
> Good news is Lowell is fine, bad news is my plane is pretty smashed
up.
>
> After some high speed runs and fiddling, Lowell popped her up and
when
> coming down got caught by a pretty good surprise gust which got him
crooked
> on touchdown, initiating a fairly mild groundloop. Unfortunately,
what
> would have been a minor groundloop turned into major disaster due to
an
> inconveniently placed three foot deep muddy drainage ditch off the
side of
> the runway. This smashed the gear, smashed the prop, displaced the
wing
> forward and flipped her on her back.
>
> Considering the whallop she took in the ditch, we are grateful that
Lowell
> got away with nothing more than some bucked shins. (thank God for
the tough
> shoulder harness I installed, please do this everybody)
>
> Got a crane, put her in the hanger, had lunch and went home. I'll
go back
> in a few days once the reality sets in and I stop crying, take stock
and try
> to figure out if I have the "gumption" left to rebuild her.
>
> Learned a lot about building practices from seeing what gave way and
what
> held up. Interesting note, the wood struts and cabanes came through
intact.
>
> I really don't know what else to say at this point...
>
> Douwe
>
>
>
>
>
>
--
Dan Yocum
Fermilab 630.840.6509
yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
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| Subject: | Re: Douwe's piet...:( |
Hi Walt,
Sorry. Mike tried to fool us on April 1st about his Piet getting dinged
by his flying bicycle falling on it. I was just being a clown, trying
to make light of the situation, blaming him that he was trying to pull
another fast one on us. Sometimes it works, sometimes it don't.
Lowell did ding Douwe Pietenpol. Lowell's ok, other than bruised ego
and banged up shins.
Gene has cancer. No joke there. I sure hope his doctor hasn't
considered all the options...
Ok, enough from me, I'm going to the back of the class. I'll be the one
with the "dunce" cap on.
Dan
do not archive
On 04/05/2010 05:28 PM, walt wrote:
> Dan,
> Sorry, I came in late,,,is this for real?
> I guess I didn't get the joke.
> Wow.
> Let me know, please
> walt evans
> NX140DL
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Dan Yocum <mailto:yocum@fnal.gov>
> *To:* pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> <mailto:pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, April 05, 2010 4:50 PM
> *Subject:* Re: Pietenpol-List: Douwe's piet...:(
>
> <mailto:yocum@fnal.gov>>
>
> Ha, ha, Mike Cuy, ha, ha! How did you get Douwe's account information
> so you could send this cruel, CRUEL joke email. Man, April Fool's is so
> 4 days ago! "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, grblble...
> won't be fooled again!" Or, something like that...
>
> Ok, ok. Enough from the Peanut Gallery.
>
> Douwe, get back to work. We're behind you and we'll expect to see
> regular progress reports. Yeah, it's painful, you get scraped knees
> when you learn to ride a bike. You came this far, you can do another
> mile.
>
> Gene, I'm so, so sorry to hear about the cancer. I know you said it was
> untreatable - is your doctor aware of, or think that it could be
> treated
> by neutron or proton therapy? Fermilab has a neutron therapy facility
> and Loma Linda does proton treatments (the accelerator was developed by
> Fermi people).
>
> Dan
>
>
> On 04/04/2010 05:47 PM, Douwe Blumberg wrote:
> Blumberg"<douweblumberg@earthlink.net
> <mailto:douweblumberg@earthlink.net>>
> >
> > Well, good news and bad news...
> >
> > Good news is Lowell is fine, bad news is my plane is pretty
> smashed up.
> >
> > After some high speed runs and fiddling, Lowell popped her up and
> when
> > coming down got caught by a pretty good surprise gust which got
> him crooked
> > on touchdown, initiating a fairly mild groundloop. Unfortunately,
> what
> > would have been a minor groundloop turned into major disaster due
> to an
> > inconveniently placed three foot deep muddy drainage ditch off
> the side of
> > the runway. This smashed the gear, smashed the prop, displaced
> the wing
> > forward and flipped her on her back.
> >
> > Considering the whallop she took in the ditch, we are grateful
> that Lowell
> > got away with nothing more than some bucked shins. (thank God for
> the tough
> > shoulder harness I installed, please do this everybody)
> >
> > Got a crane, put her in the hanger, had lunch and went home. I'll
> go back
> > in a few days once the reality sets in and I stop crying, take
> stock and try
> > to figure out if I have the "gumption" left to rebuild her.
> >
> > Learned a lot about building practices from seeing what gave way
> and what
> > held up. Interesting note, the wood struts and cabanes came
> through intact.
> >
> > I really don't know what else to say at this point...
> >
> > Douwe
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> Dan Yocum
> Fermilab 630.840.6509
> yocum@fnal.gov <mailto:yocum@fnal.gov>, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
> "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty p;
> Features Chat, http://www.matnbsp; via the Web
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"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
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| Subject: | Re: Douwe's piet...:( |
Gene & Tammy wrote:
> <zharvey@bentoncountycable.net>
>
> Douwe, This is not the way I intended to inform the group I'll be
> selling my Piet. Three weeks ago, during a routine check-up, I was
> found to have (what their calling) a rare, non-treatable cancer.
> Well guess what, I'M NOT GIVING UP!! I WILL BEAT IT! I refuse to
> just lay down and give up all my dreams and everything I've worked so
> hard for.
> Douwe, if you give up and don't repair the damage, you don't deserve
> to own or fly a Piet.
> Gene In beautiful Tennessee
> N502R
>
>
Gene,
Find a cancer center. My father goes to Giesinger in Philly. About 11
years ago they diagnosed him with prostate cancer that had started to
spread. They told him that the goal was to keep him alive for 5 years.
He still has cancer but is in an experimental program and planning to
take my son turkey hunting next month.
Dave
N36078
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| Subject: | Obfuscatory perambulation |
I think Homey works here at NASA now.
-
Do not archive
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Short answer is to quote FAR 91.207:
"...no person may operate a US registered civil airplane unless there is
attached to the airplane an approved automatic type emergency locator
transmitter that is in operable condition...
Exceptions include ferrying a newly acquired airplane to a place where the
emergency locator transmitter is to be installed; aircraft while engaged in
training operations conducted entirely within a 50 nm radius of the airport
from which such flight operations began;..."
Also excluded are crop dusters, single seat airplanes, and any airplane in
which the ELT was removed for repair, but you can't do this for more than 90
days.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Raleigh, NC
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mike King
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 4:28 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: ELTs
Quick question. What is the current requirement for ELT? Do experimental
planes "require" an ELT?
My 12 year old went bad and will probably replace it with new technology
but what is the requirement regarding ELTs.?
Thank guys...
Mike King
GN-1
77K
Corpus Christi
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| Subject: | Re: Douwe's piet...:( |
Gene, no harm done, understandable with your situation. I don't know what t
o say to you about that regard. No words seem to be fitting. I have a skin
issue that prevents me from being in the sun because exposure increases my
skin cancer threat by some outrageous number. I have to fully cover up and
wear sunscreen. (I hate the way sunscreen feels.) Cancer may very well be i
n my future and to hear it hit people that I know...even very little...puts
that knot in my stomach.
-
As for Douwe, I felt he was getting kicked while already down and I didn't
think that was right. He has spent many an hour and dollar on his plane ove
r the years, (I assume) and I didn't think he should be cast out because hi
s plane crashed and he now had no motivation to fix it.-
-
Douwe, I was not going to reply to your post just because I felt that you n
eeded time to reflect and decide for YOURSELF what would be best for YOU.
- I would hate to see you do something because you felt obligated to by t
he opinions of others.- Once you take some time, the answer will present
itself and when it does, you will know what to do next.
-
Good luck to both of you Gentlemen and do keep us informed of your situatio
ns...Pietenpol related or not.-
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| Subject: | weekend cowl work |
=0A=0AI just thought I'd post some pics of the work we got done on the cowl
this past weekend.-- So far we just have the nose, top and bottom roug
hed in.- We will get to the sides in time.- We have masking tape on the
intake and cooling scoops to keep from scratching them.- We're no metal
experts, but we should be able to hack a cowl out of this.--Anyways, I
-just thought I'd share our progress.- =0A=0AMike Groah=0ATulare CA=0A
=0A=0A
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| Subject: | weekend cowl work |
Looking good, Mike!
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Raleigh, NC
_____
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael
Groah
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 8:35 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: weekend cowl work
I just thought I'd post some pics of the work we got done on the cowl this
past weekend. So far we just have the nose, top and bottom roughed in. We
will get to the sides in time. We have masking tape on the intake and
cooling scoops to keep from scratching them. We're no metal experts, but we
should be able to hack a cowl out of this. Anyways, I just thought I'd
share our progress.
Mike Groah
Tulare CA
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I want to thank everyone that, both on and off list, sent me their well
wishes and prayers. I believe very strongly in God and believe he has a
lot more in store for me. I'm a fighter and have made things happen for
myself all my life. I will do fine.
Enough with all the bad news, let's get on with building and flying
Pietenpols (and that means you too Douwe).
Prayers most welcome
Thank you
Gene In Beautiful Tennessee
N502R
To all that responded off list, I will respond to each of you in the
next several days, after I return from the hospital.
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| Subject: | Re: Health issues |
Great reply, great attitude, great belief. Expect great results.
God bless you,
Tim
-----Original Message-----
From: Gene & Tammy
Sent: Apr 5, 2010 8:50 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Health issues
I want to thank everyone that, both on and off list, sent me their well wishes
and prayers. I believe very strongly in God and believe he has a lot more in
store for me. I'm a fighter and have made things happen for myself all my life.
I will do fine.
Enough with all the bad news, let's get on with building and flying Pietenpols
(and that means you too Douwe).
Prayers most welcome
Thank you
Gene In Beautiful Tennessee
N502R
To all that responded off list, I will respond to each of you in the next several
days, after I return from the hospital.
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Jack, THANK YOU for the translation! The government does everything to
excess, with no clear direction and reason.
Jack
DSM
Do not archive
<pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
Short answer is to quote FAR 91.207:
"...no person may operate a US registered civil airplane unless there is
attached to the airplane an approved automatic type emergency locator
transmitter that is in operable condition...
Exceptions include ferrying a newly acquired airplane to a place where the
emergency locator transmitter is to be installed; aircraft while engaged in
training operations conducted entirely within a 50 nm radius of the airport
from which such flight operations began;..."
Also excluded are crop dusters, single seat airplanes, and any airplane in
which the ELT was removed for repair, but you can't do this for more than 90
days.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Raleigh, NC
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mike King
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 4:28 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: ELTs
Quick question. What is the current requirement for ELT? Do experimental
planes "require" an ELT?
My 12 year old went bad and will probably replace it with new technology
but what is the requirement regarding ELTs.?
Thank guys...
Mike King
GN-1
77K
Corpus Christi
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| Subject: | weekend cowl work |
Looking good, Mike! I'm curious about the initial piece on the bottom of the
nose bowl.
Gary Boothe
Cool, CA
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
18 ribs done
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael
Groah
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 5:35 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: weekend cowl work
I just thought I'd post some pics of the work we got done on the cowl this
past weekend. So far we just have the nose, top and bottom roughed in. We
will get to the sides in time. We have masking tape on the intake and
cooling scoops to keep from scratching them. We're no metal experts, but we
should be able to hack a cowl out of this. Anyways, I just thought I'd
share our progress.
Mike Groah
Tulare CA
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| Subject: | Re: weekend cowl work |
OHHHHHH GEEEEEEEEZZZZ, Is that a corvair? Looks great!, keep up the good work.
Shad
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| Subject: | Re: weekend cowl work |
That initial piece or little chin angle is a result of my wanting a smaller
nose area, but having to get around the engine and mount. That little ang
led area allows me to get around that lower area. When designing my cowl I
had a list of wants. I wanted as small a nose bowl as possible while stil
l enclosing the front starter/ring gear. I also wanted to have a rounded
bottom. If I had done the square/flat bottom that many other corvair-piets
have then I wouldn't have needed the chin angle and things would have been
easier to fabricate. (I seem to like to make things as hard as possible w
henever I can). I kinda like how the faceted lower section came out, and i
t's my airplane, so I only have to please myself. :)=0AObviously everythin
g is still very rough and in need of a lot of cutting and fitting. =0A=0AMi
ke Groah=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Gary Boo
the <gboothe5@comcast.net>=0ATo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Mon,
April 5, 2010 6:14:00 PM=0ASubject: RE: Pietenpol-List: weekend cowl work
=0A=0A =0ALooking good, Mike! I=99m curious about the initial piece o
n=0Athe bottom of the nose bowl.=0A =0AGary Boothe=0ACool, CA=0APietenpol
=0AWW Corvair Conversion=0ATail done, Fuselage on gear=0A18 ribs done=0A
=0AFrom:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com=0A[mailto:owner-pietenpol
-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael=0AGroah=0ASent: Monday, Ap
ril 05, 2010 5:35 PM=0ATo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com=0ASubject: Pietenpo
l-List: weekend cowl work=0A =0A =0AI just thought I'd post some pics of th
e work we got done on=0Athe cowl this past weekend. So far we just have t
he nose, top and=0Abottom roughed in. We will get to the sides in time. W
e have=0Amasking tape on the intake and cooling scoops to keep from scratch
ing=0Athem. We're no metal experts, but we should be able to hack a cowl o
ut of=0Athis. Anyways, I just thought I'd share our progress. =0A =0AMike
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| Subject: | Re: Douwe's Piet |
Dowue, As my Grand Dad always said, "Once a job has once begun, never leave it
till it's done. Be the labor great, or small, do it right or not at all." It
aint nothin you ain't done before, you just have to peel some fabric, and scrape
off some varnish before you put the glue on this time. At least you got yours
taxing before it got broke, I broke a wing pannel when it fell off my work
bench, with 20 lbs of bar clamps on it. Not to beat the drum, but No one was
hurt bad and your still both here to tell the story and that IS what is important,
Dad and I lost a good friend last summer who's out come was not as fortunate,
so in in my utmost sincerity I am glad you and Lowell ar OK. Fix'er up
and try again.
Shad
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