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1. 05:20 AM - Re: Re: Re: Mike Groah--your side door (H RULE)
2. 06:01 AM - SNF Piet forums? (Jim Ash)
3. 06:07 AM - Re: Re: Obfuscatory perambulation (Jim Ash)
4. 06:12 AM - Re: Re: New England pietenpol (Jim Ash)
5. 06:49 AM - Re: SNF Piet forums? (Ryan Mueller)
6. 06:55 AM - Test Fight - Douwe (Pieti Lowell)
7. 07:33 AM - Re: Obfuscatory perambulation (Dan Yocum)
8. 07:34 AM - Re: Re: New England pietenpol (Michael Silvius)
9. 07:52 AM - Re: Re: New England Pietenpol (brian.e.jardine@l-3com.com)
10. 08:13 AM - Re: Re: New England Pietenpol (Michael Silvius)
11. 08:16 AM - Re: Ryan's Piet project for sale $750 (Ryan Mueller)
12. 08:46 AM - simple mixing of T-88 (Arden Adamson)
13. 09:22 AM - Re: Ryan's Piet project for sale $750 (Jeff wilson)
14. 09:53 AM - Re: Mixing t-88 (Bill Church)
15. 09:56 AM - Re: Ryan's Piet project for sale $750 (Ryan Mueller)
16. 09:57 AM - Re: Re: Mixing t-88 (Ryan Mueller)
17. 10:03 AM - Re: Mixing t-88 (Bill Church)
18. 10:03 AM - Re: SNF Piet forums? (Ben Charvet)
19. 10:09 AM - Re: Re: Mixing t-88 (Tim Willis)
20. 10:10 AM - SLC next week.... (Jim Markle)
21. 10:13 AM - Re: Re: Mixing t-88 (Jim Markle)
22. 10:24 AM - Re: SLC next week.... (brian.e.jardine@l-3com.com)
23. 11:36 AM - Re: Ohio piet fly-in 2010 (coxwelljon)
24. 12:01 PM - Re: simple mixing of T-88 (coxwelljon)
25. 12:34 PM - syringes (shad bell)
26. 01:10 PM - Re: Re: Mixing t-88 (airlion)
27. 01:20 PM - Re: simple mixing of T-88 (Bill Church)
28. 01:24 PM - Re: Re: Mixing t-88 (Jack)
29. 01:31 PM - Re: Re: Mixing t-88 (Dan Yocum)
30. 01:47 PM - Re: Re: Mixing t-88 (Ryan Mueller)
31. 02:04 PM - Re: Re: Mixing t-88 (Dan Yocum)
32. 03:30 PM - Re: Re: Mixing t-88 (Rick Holland)
33. 03:42 PM - Ohio piet fly-in, food (shad bell)
34. 03:42 PM - Re: Obfuscatory perambulation (Jim Ash)
35. 03:46 PM - Re: SNF Piet forums? (Jim Ash)
36. 03:58 PM - Alternative to $84.00 wing strut forks (Michael Perez)
37. 03:59 PM - Re: Mixing t-88 (Bill Church)
38. 04:01 PM - Re: Re: Mixing t-88 (airlion)
39. 04:09 PM - Re: SNF Piet forums? (Bill Church)
40. 04:23 PM - Re: Alternative to $84.00 wing strut forks (airlion)
41. 04:29 PM - Re: SNF Piet forums? (Ben Charvet)
42. 05:59 PM - Re: Re: SNF Piet forums? (Jim Markle)
43. 07:39 PM - Re: Re: SNF Piet forums? (ditoliberato@terra.com.br)
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| Subject: | Re: Mike Groah--your side door |
Wow nice work;doors and all.=0Ado not archive=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A_______________
_________________=0AFrom: Jim <jimboyer@hughes.net>=0ATo: pietenpol-list@ma
tronics.com; dskogrover@yahoo.com; garywilson213@yahoo.com=0ASent: Thu, Apr
il 8, 2010 12:36:18 AM=0ASubject: Re: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Mike Groah--y
our side door=0A=0AHi Mike and Gary,=0AHere are the pictures of my door and
rear cockpit added bracing. I rolled it outside in the sun thinking it wou
ld help but I think it added a lot of glare. Anyway hope this shows the dif
ference in routing or not routing. Routing like Mike did makes it look a lo
t neater but have no idea how much weight it may save. Weight saved may not
be as- important as in how it looks. If I had been building it in initia
lly I would have routed too (I think).=0AAlso a copy of instrument panel; i
ts part of that picture group.=0AJim B.=0A=0AJim Boyer=0ASanta Rosa, CA=0AP
ietenpol on wheels=0ATail surfaces done=0AWing ribs done=0ACorvair engine
=0A=0A=0AApr 7, 2010 12:46:02 PM, pietenpol-list@matronics.com wrote:=0A=0A
=0AI don't know how much weight it saved.- I didn't take the time to figu
re that all out.- It was part of the door plans and I figured it was a go
od idea to offset the additional wood added by the door mod.- Jim Boyer (
who is on this list) weighed his pieces and can tell you how much extra wei
ght the door mod adds. I'm sure the grooves reduces weight some and doesn't
detract from strength enough to be a negative.- Not every piece has been
turned into an I beam, but quite a bit of it has.- It was simple to do a
s I was building the fuselage.- I just marked the distance I wanted the g
roove on each piece and took it to the router table.- After that it got p
laced back into the fuselage jig and glued up. It is not routed under anypl
ace where a gusset goes.- =0A=0AMike Groah=0A=0A=0A=0AFrom: gtche98 <gary
wilson213@yahoo.com>=0ATo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Wed, April
7, 2010 11:59:52 AM=0ASubject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Mike Groah--your side do
or
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| Subject: | SNF Piet forums? |
Does anybody have a line on the SNF forum schedule and when the Piet forum(s) is/are?
Jim Ash
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| Subject: | Re: Obfuscatory perambulation |
I want to know how much practice and how many takes it took. I used to unload a
chunk of Fox in Socks (the tweetle beetle part) high-speed into co-workers' voice-mail
on occasion, but I was obviously working from a script and it took quite
a bit warming up first at that speed.
Jim
-----Original Message-----
From: TOM STINEMETZE
Sent: Apr 7, 2010 5:44 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Obfuscatory perambulation
Paul:
Agreed. Not too many people in the world have that kind of verbal / mental talent.
Certainly not me.
Stinemetze
do not archive
>>> "Paul N. Peckham" <peckham9@countryspeed.com> 4/7/2010 4:32 PM >>>
Tom,
Wow! Where can I get one of those turbo encabulators with the hydrocoptic marzel
vanes? I checked with McMaster Carr and they're out.
Seriously, that video was a riot. I don't know how the guy could keep a straight
face and do it off the cuff like he did.
Paul
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| Subject: | Re: New England pietenpol |
Is it for sale or is it just going to die there?
Jim
-----Original Message-----
>From: Michael Silvius <silvius@gwi.net>
>Sent: Apr 7, 2010 5:34 PM
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: New England pietenpol
>
>Bill:
>
>There is a semi abandoned project at Bowman field in Livermore Maine. As I
>understand it was built by the local EAA chapter. Fuse is complete as are
>the wings.
>
>Michael in Scarborough, Maine that is...
>
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| Subject: | Re: SNF Piet forums? |
Jim
http://www.sun-n-fun.org/FlyIn.aspx
<http://www.sun-n-fun.org/FlyIn.aspx>Under Schedules and Maps>Forums>, they
have each day's forum schedule listed.
On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 8:00 AM, Jim Ash <ashcan@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>
> Does anybody have a line on the SNF forum schedule and when the Piet
> forum(s) is/are?
>
> Jim Ash
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| Subject: | Test Fight - Douwe |
The worst thought that went through my mind as the right wing lifted,with stick
full right, tail up, chop throttle, max right rudder, all by instinct, WAS, Douwe's
beautiful Piet, heading now for the gang watching this maneuver, approx,
a few 100 feet away, With this experience the observers and equipment, must
also keep far enough away from the runway for their safety.
Not my best Day, sorry Douwe
Pieti Lowell
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=293487#293487
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| Subject: | Re: Obfuscatory perambulation |
Strangely, or maybe not so strangely, this sounds very much like many of
the presentations given here at Fermilab. As an example, here's the
caption on a diagram given in today's edition of "Fermilab Today":
The two-jet mass spectrum in the three b-quark event sample
from in 2.5 inverse femtobarns of CDF data. bbB, bBb, etc. are
nicknames for Standard Model processes with three b-quarks that
comprise most of the sample. The small SUSY-Higgs-like excess
is shown in red.
Today's issue is at the following link. And yes, that is an article
about a rapper who raps about science. Kids, these days...
http://www.fnal.gov/pub/today/archive_2010/today10-04-08.html
Enjoy!
Dan
On 04/05/2010 01:24 PM, TOM STINEMETZE wrote:
> *The gentleman in this video has been hired by the Crank Snappin'
> Corvair Society (CS) to articulate our cause to the masses. I am sure
> that you will all understand the veracity of our prognostications re:
> our choice of motive appliance, once you hear him.*
> **
> http://home.comcast.net/~steveham21/turbo.mpg
> The real story is as follows:
> Several years ago, Rockwell International decided to get into the heavy
> duty transmission business. They were getting ready to tape a first
> introduction video, and as a warm up, the professional narrator began
> what has become a legend within the trucking industry. This man should
> have won an academy award for his stellar performance. Now remember this
> is strictly off the cuff, nothing is written down, this became the
> biggest talk in the industry, vs the new product which they were
> introducing.
> Stinemetze
> N328X
--
Dan Yocum
Fermilab 630.840.6509
yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
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| Subject: | Re: New England pietenpol |
I heard it was built by the EAA chapter in Livermore up at Bowman Field. I
also heard they were approached some time ago by interested parties to
purchase it and they could not seem to come to an agreement. To many parties
involved. At any rate if anyone is intrested the best thing would be to look
up the local EAA chapter and make contact with the powers that be and see
what they can tell you.
chapter 827 I believe is the one
http://www.eaa827.org/page14.html
Michael
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Ash" <ashcan@earthlink.net>
>
> Is it for sale or is it just going to die there?
>
> Jim
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: New England Pietenpol |
I contacted Chapter 827, and that Piet project was sold last year.
Brian
SLC-UT
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael Silvius
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 9:17 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: New England pietenpol
I heard it was built by the EAA chapter in Livermore up at Bowman Field. I
also heard they were approached some time ago by interested parties to
purchase it and they could not seem to come to an agreement. To many parties
involved. At any rate if anyone is intrested the best thing would be to look
up the local EAA chapter and make contact with the powers that be and see
what they can tell you.
chapter 827 I believe is the one
http://www.eaa827.org/page14.html
Michael
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Ash" <ashcan@earthlink.net>
>
> Is it for sale or is it just going to die there?
>
> Jim
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: New England Pietenpol |
Well that is good news.
At least it found a new home and perhaps it may be completed. It was last
August at the anual Fly-in when I saw it there.
Michael
----- Original Message -----
From: <brian.e.jardine@l-3com.com>
>
> I contacted Chapter 827, and that Piet project was sold last year.
>
> Brian
> SLC-UT
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Ryan's Piet project for sale $750 |
Just a quick note...a number of people have contacted me about the project,
but it still available. You may have noticed the Continental A-65 that we
have listed for sale....1505TT, 709SMOH, complete logs, engine complete
minus carb and mag harness. If you decide to purchase the Piet, the price on
the engine comes down to $2500. $3250 for the project and the A-65.....
Just wanted to throw that out there. Have a good day all!
Ryan
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 2:12 PM, Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace
Corporation] <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov> wrote:
> Aerospace Corporation]" <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov>
>
> Ryan,
>
> You are asking a VERY modest amount for your project for as much as is
> completed. There is no way you could build what you have there for that
> amount of money finished or not and anyone who offers you less is dreaming.
>
> This is a great buy.
>
>
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| Subject: | simple mixing of T-88 |
Hey guys,
With all due respect to everyone's suggestions for mixing T-88. The
simplest thing to do is-go to Fleet-Farm (or another farm supply store) and
buy the largest syringes available. I buy 30cm size. Pour part A in one
syringe and part B in a second syringe. They are marked in cm's so mixing
is accurate, are easy to use, are inexpensive and readily available. That's
the only way I'd mix T-88.
Arden Adamson
New London, WI
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| Subject: | Ryan's Piet project for sale $750 |
Ryan,
I am definitely interested.
Just want to know a couple things, what plans- Pietenpol or Grega? What is
the length of the fuse firewall to tail? And can I come get it tommorrow? I
,m ready to roll.
Don't need the engine though. Got a fresh A-65 and prop ready to go.
Call me. 314-974-4589
Jeff Wilson
N899WT (reserved)
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As a public service, to help out those of us who don't own a digital scale, and
mix our T-88 ACCORDING TO THE DIRECTIONS ON THE BOTTLE - which is by volume,
not weight, I have devised a similar chart to the ones created by Mr. Markle.
Here's how this one works. The column titled RESIN is the amount of resin that
you measure out (half of the total volume of desired mixed epoxy), and the column
titled HARDENER is the corresponding amount of hardener to be added to the
resin. The beauty of this chart is that the units are up to you! They can be
ounces, or milliliters, or cups, quarts, gallons, drams, ketchup cups, microwave
dinner trays, whatever. PLUS, if the number you are looking for isn't on this
chart, don't fret, because it's a very simple calculation - just multiply the
volume of resin by ONE to get the corresponding volume of hardener to add.
What if you measure out the hardener first? No sweat. Just multiply the volume
of hardener by ONE to get the corresponding volume of resin to add.
Maybe not as fun as playing with the digital scale, but it'll work just the same.
Bill C.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=293507#293507
Attachments:
http://forums.matronics.com//files/epoxy_mixing_table_volume_262.doc
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| Subject: | Re: Ryan's Piet project for sale $750 |
And the project has been sold. The A-65 did not go with it, so if anyone
wants that, please let us know!
Ryan
On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 10:00 AM, Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com> wrote:
> Just a quick note...a number of people have contacted me about the project,
> but it still available. You may have noticed the Continental A-65 that we
> have listed for sale....1505TT, 709SMOH, complete logs, engine complete
> minus carb and mag harness. If you decide to purchase the Piet, the price on
> the engine comes down to $2500. $3250 for the project and the A-65.....
>
> Just wanted to throw that out there. Have a good day all!
>
> Ryan
>
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Thanks Bill. That's super-useful!
Ryan
please do not archive
On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 11:52 AM, Bill Church <billspiet@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> billspiet@sympatico.ca>
>
> As a public service, to help out those of us who don't own a digital scale,
> and mix our T-88 ACCORDING TO THE DIRECTIONS ON THE BOTTLE - which is by
> volume, not weight, I have devised a similar chart to the ones created by
> Mr. Markle.
>
> Here's how this one works. The column titled RESIN is the amount of resin
> that you measure out (half of the total volume of desired mixed epoxy), and
> the column titled HARDENER is the corresponding amount of hardener to be
> added to the resin. The beauty of this chart is that the units are up to
> you! They can be ounces, or milliliters, or cups, quarts, gallons, drams,
> ketchup cups, microwave dinner trays, whatever. PLUS, if the number you are
> looking for isn't on this chart, don't fret, because it's a very simple
> calculation - just multiply the volume of resin by ONE to get the
> corresponding volume of hardener to add. What if you measure out the
> hardener first? No sweat. Just multiply the volume of hardener by ONE to get
> the corresponding volume of resin to add.
>
> Maybe not as fun as playing with the digital scale, but it'll work just the
> same.
>
> Bill C.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=293507#293507
>
>
> Attachments:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/epoxy_mixing_table_volume_262.doc
>
>
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You're super welcome.
(I do what I can).
BC
do not archive
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=293512#293512
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| Subject: | Re: SNF Piet forums? |
I don't remember ever seeing a formal Pietenpol forum at Sun-N-Fun.
Lots of Pietenpol folks hang out at the woodworking shop though. Looks
like there may be 4 Pietenpols there. Right now I'm hoping to fly in on
Wed and stay through Sat AM.
Ben CHarvet
NX866BC
22.3 hours into Phase 1, hoping for good weather this weekend
On 4/8/2010 9:00 AM, Jim Ash wrote:
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Jim Ash<ashcan@earthlink.net>
>
>
> Does anybody have a line on the SNF forum schedule and when the Piet forum(s)
is/are?
>
> Jim Ash
>
>
>
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Bill,
I have always found a Cycles/Second--to--Hertz conversion table useful, as well.
Tim in central TX
do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: Ryan Mueller
Sent: Apr 8, 2010 12:57 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Mixing t-88
Thanks Bill. That's super-useful!
Ryan
please do not archive
On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 11:52 AM, Bill Church <billspiet@sympatico.ca> wrote:
As a public service, to help out those of us who don't own a digital scale, and
mix our T-88 ACCORDING TO THE DIRECTIONS ON THE BOTTLE - which is by volume,
not weight, I have devised a similar chart to the ones created by Mr. Markle.
Here's how this one works. The column titled RESIN is the amount of resin that
you measure out (half of the total volume of desired mixed epoxy), and the column
titled HARDENER is the corresponding amount of hardener to be added to the
resin. The beauty of this chart is that the units are up to you! They can be
ounces, or milliliters, or cups, quarts, gallons, drams, ketchup cups, microwave
dinner trays, whatever. PLUS, if the number you are looking for isn't on this
chart, don't fret, because it's a very simple calculation - just multiply the
volume of resin by ONE to get the corresponding volume of hardener to add.
What if you measure out the hardener first? No sweat. Just multiply the volume
of hardener by ONE to get the corresponding volume of resin to add.
Maybe not as fun as playing with the digital scale, but it'll work just the same.
Bill C.
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=293507#293507
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| Subject: | SLC next week.... |
Any of you Salt Lake folks gonna be around for a visit next week?
I'll have Mon-Tue evenings available and I'll have a car...
And if we have time, I have a list of tools I would like to "look" at...hahahaha...just
kidding. Keep quiet Recine....
JM..
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Hilarious....thanks for a good dose of silly today....
What a hoot.
-----Original Message-----
>From: Bill Church <billspiet@sympatico.ca>
>Sent: Apr 8, 2010 10:52 AM
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Mixing t-88
>
>
>As a public service, to help out those of us who don't own a digital scale, and
mix our T-88 ACCORDING TO THE DIRECTIONS ON THE BOTTLE - which is by volume,
not weight, I have devised a similar chart to the ones created by Mr. Markle.
>
>Here's how this one works. The column titled RESIN is the amount of resin that
you measure out (half of the total volume of desired mixed epoxy), and the column
titled HARDENER is the corresponding amount of hardener to be added to the
resin. The beauty of this chart is that the units are up to you! They can be
ounces, or milliliters, or cups, quarts, gallons, drams, ketchup cups, microwave
dinner trays, whatever. PLUS, if the number you are looking for isn't on this
chart, don't fret, because it's a very simple calculation - just multiply
the volume of resin by ONE to get the corresponding volume of hardener to add.
What if you measure out the hardener first? No sweat. Just multiply the volume
of hardener by ONE to get the corresponding volume of resin to add.
>
>Maybe not as fun as playing with the digital scale, but it'll work just the same.
>
>Bill C.
>
>
>Read this topic online here:
>
>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=293507#293507
>
>
>Attachments:
>
>http://forums.matronics.com//files/epoxy_mixing_table_volume_262.doc
>
>
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| Subject: | SLC next week.... |
Jim,
You are welcome to come by...would be a pleasure to meet the "Markle-man" in person.
Brian
SLC-UT
801-603-3394
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Markle
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 11:09 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: SLC next week....
Any of you Salt Lake folks gonna be around for a visit next week?
I'll have Mon-Tue evenings available and I'll have a car...
And if we have time, I have a list of tools I would like to "look" at...hahahaha...just
kidding. Keep quiet Recine....
JM..
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| Subject: | Re: Ohio piet fly-in 2010 |
aviatorbell(at)yahoo.com wrote:
> Jon, my wife bought a motercycle after I had mine for a couple years. Ironically
she is the one who sold hers right after we got maried, not me? I should
have plenty of room for 2 bikes and a tent. Where are you riding in from?
>
> Shad
I would be coming from Remsen NY, 20 miles North of Utica. About 650 miles. We
ride huge bikes, a 1982 Honda Twinstar 200 and a 250 Honda Helix. At the end
of the day you just lay down and vibrate for 10 minutes.
Jon Coxwell
--------
Jon Coxwell
GN-1 Builder
Recycle and preserve the planet
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| Subject: | Re: simple mixing of T-88 |
[quote="aadamson1(at)centurytel.n"]Hey guys,
With all due respect to everyones suggestions for mixing T-88. The simplest thing
to do isgo to Fleet-Farm (or another farm supply store) and buy the largest
syringes available. I buy 30cm size. Pour part A in one syringe and part B
in a second syringe. They are marked in cms so mixing is accurate, are easy
to use, are inexpensive and readily available. Thats the only way Id mix T-88.
Arden Adamson
New London, WI
> [b]
I saw my fellow EAA'r last night and asked him what he had used. He is building
Hatz classic wings. He is frugal, methodical and smart. He buys buys double
barrel syringes from McMastars-Carr (on line) along with mixing tips, and cleans
them by soaking them in a closed container of MEK. Said he is able to get
multiple uses out of the syringes and tips.
I use white vinegar for T-88 clean up but I don't know if it would clean it out
of a syringe.
Jon Coxwell
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GN-1 Builder
Recycle and preserve the planet
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I know some syringes have rubber o-rings, and depending on what kind of rubber
they are made of, mek, acetone and other solvents might cause the o-rings to swell
so much that you can not even push the plunger down. I have run into this
at work, when trying to mix small batches of primer or paint.
just my 2 cents,
Shad
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It seems that there is too much talk about how to mix T88.
Look on the container and just mix it one to one. That is simple enough for a dummy
like me. Cheers, Gardiner
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| Subject: | Re: simple mixing of T-88 |
Well, I must be REALLY frugal then, because I don't buy any syringes. But then,
I don't use any syringes, either. Just a simple, cheap, graduated clear plastic
medicine cup (like others have mentioned), and a re-usable plastic mixing stick/spreader.
Really simple, and really easy, and I don't use any MEK (that stuff
is toxic, you know) or even vinegar, because THERE IS NO CLEANUP. Just leave
the little bit in the bottom of the mixing cup, label it with the date, and
keep it as a record of your glue sample. The bit of epoxy that is left on the
mixing stick flakes off when fully cured, and the stick gets re-used.
The syringes just seem like WAY more work that they're worth.
Bill C.
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But Bill...how will tempature and humidity effect the mixture?
Jack
DSM
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Sent from my iPhone
On Apr 8, 2010, at 11:52 AM, "Bill Church" <billspiet@sympatico.ca>
wrote:
> >
>
> As a public service, to help out those of us who don't own a digital
> scale, and mix our T-88 ACCORDING TO THE DIRECTIONS ON THE BOTTLE -
> which is by volume, not weight, I have devised a similar chart to
> the ones created by Mr. Markle.
>
> Here's how this one works. The column titled RESIN is the amount of
> resin that you measure out (half of the total volume of desired
> mixed epoxy), and the column titled HARDENER is the corresponding
> amount of hardener to be added to the resin. The beauty of this
> chart is that the units are up to you! They can be ounces, or
> milliliters, or cups, quarts, gallons, drams, ketchup cups,
> microwave dinner trays, whatever. PLUS, if the number you are
> looking for isn't on this chart, don't fret, because it's a very
> simple calculation - just multiply the volume of resin by ONE to get
> the corresponding volume of hardener to add. What if you measure out
> the hardener first? No sweat. Just multiply the volume of hardener
> by ONE to get the corresponding volume of resin to add.
>
> Maybe not as fun as playing with the digital scale, but it'll work
> just the same.
>
> Bill C.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=293507#293507
>
>
> Attachments:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/epoxy_mixing_table_volume_262.doc
>
>
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On 04/08/2010 03:10 PM, airlion wrote:
> It seems that there is too much talk about how to mix T88.
Slow news day. Next up: watching paint dry! Followed by apple slices
turning brown!
So, how many hours do you have on your shiny new Piet, now?
I got out for 3.2hr the other day. Only 3.5 more until the Insurance
Man says I can take my lovely bride for a ride.
Dan
--
Dan Yocum
Fermilab 630.840.6509
yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
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How many more hours before the Lovely Bride says she'll go for a ride?
Sorry, couldn't resist. ;)
Ryan
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On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 3:30 PM, Dan Yocum <yocum@fnal.gov> wrote:
>
>
> On 04/08/2010 03:10 PM, airlion wrote:
>
>> It seems that there is too much talk about how to mix T88.
>>
>
> Slow news day. Next up: watching paint dry! Followed by apple slices
> turning brown!
>
> So, how many hours do you have on your shiny new Piet, now?
>
> I got out for 3.2hr the other day. Only 3.5 more until the Insurance Man
> says I can take my lovely bride for a ride.
>
> Dan
>
> --
> Dan Yocum
> Fermilab 630.840.6509
> yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
> "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
>
>
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Surprisingly, she was rather positive about the whole thing. Even said
that she was looking forward to the MAAC fly-in in September. I was
shocked!
Maybe it was temporary insanity on her part...
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On 04/08/2010 03:46 PM, Ryan Mueller wrote:
> How many more hours before the Lovely Bride says she'll go for a ride?
>
> Sorry, couldn't resist. ;)
>
> Ryan
>
> do not archive
>
> On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 3:30 PM, Dan Yocum <yocum@fnal.gov
> <mailto:yocum@fnal.gov>> wrote:
>
> <mailto:yocum@fnal.gov>>
>
>
> On 04/08/2010 03:10 PM, airlion wrote:
>
> It seems that there is too much talk about how to mix T88.
>
>
> Slow news day. Next up: watching paint dry! Followed by apple
> slices turning brown!
>
> So, how many hours do you have on your shiny new Piet, now?
>
> I got out for 3.2hr the other day. Only 3.5 more until the
> Insurance Man says I can take my lovely bride for a ride.
>
> Dan
>
> --
> Dan Yocum
> Fermilab 630.840.6509
> yocum@fnal.gov <mailto:yocum@fnal.gov>, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
> "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
>
>
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>
> *
>
>
> *
--
Dan Yocum
Fermilab 630.840.6509
yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
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And dew-point and atmospheric pressure?
On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Jack <jack@textors.com> wrote:
>
> But Bill...how will tempature and humidity effect the mixture?
> Jack
> DSM
> Do not archive
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Apr 8, 2010, at 11:52 AM, "Bill Church" <billspiet@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
>> billspiet@sympatico.ca>
>>
>> As a public service, to help out those of us who don't own a digital
>> scale, and mix our T-88 ACCORDING TO THE DIRECTIONS ON THE BOTTLE - which is
>> by volume, not weight, I have devised a similar chart to the ones created by
>> Mr. Markle.
>>
>> Here's how this one works. The column titled RESIN is the amount of resin
>> that you measure out (half of the total volume of desired mixed epoxy), and
>> the column titled HARDENER is the corresponding amount of hardener to be
>> added to the resin. The beauty of this chart is that the units are up to
>> you! They can be ounces, or milliliters, or cups, quarts, gallons, drams,
>> ketchup cups, microwave dinner trays, whatever. PLUS, if the number you are
>> looking for isn't on this chart, don't fret, because it's a very simple
>> calculation - just multiply the volume of resin by ONE to get the
>> corresponding volume of hardener to add. What if you measure out the
>> hardener first? No sweat. Just multiply the volume of hardener by ONE to get
>> the corresponding volume of resin to add.
>>
>> Maybe not as fun as playing with the digital scale, but it'll work just
>> the same.
>>
>> Bill C.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=293507#293507
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Attachments:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com//files/epoxy_mixing_table_volume_262.doc
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
--
Rick Holland
Castle Rock, Colorado
"Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"
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| Subject: | Ohio piet fly-in, food |
Group, To all those who plan on attending our Ohio piet fly-in, I am trying to
come up with a way to keep it affordable for me,and Dad so we can do it again
in the future. I am planning on making it pot luck, bring a dish to pass, or
if you can't carry food etc because you are flying in, a donation jar. I might
just hand out tickets for a small donation, which is basically a meal pass,
bringing a covered dish, chips, soda etc would get you a free ticket. One of
the reasons I might need to do this, is there are a few locals who have in the
past shown up uninvited to take advantage of peoples good nature, to feed 10+
people with no intention of helping to donate or contribute in any such way,
and are blaitant in doing so (it's a long story) If any of you have any other
ideas let me know. For those of you who plan on bringing food, I will try to
get a list of who is bringing what a month or so in advance so I can get to the
store to buy the rest, so
everyone will have a full belly. Don, Mike, Frank, Skipp, and other friday night
campers, I was thinking if you want we can pile into the 1932 model A truck
(stakebed) hay ride style, and go uptown to the dinner for breakfast 1st thing
saturday morning, it's only 2 miles down the road, I think it would be easier
than cooking up breakfast here, (I might be treading on thin ice with the boss
at that point, she'll be 7 months pregnant by then) If I destroy the kitchen,
I'll be camping at my own house. So far I have 6-7 piets planning on attending,
and 3-4 more of maybe's, 4,5 piet builders (still building), some flying
in, others driving, one international attendee (Scott Knowlton, from Canada)flying
in a Stinson, and a dozzen or so of my aviation friends and family.
Shad
P.S. I called to get prices on rent-a-johns, they are only about $100 per unit,
for Friday-Monday, 2 should be plenty, I just use my tree when the laddies aren't
looking.
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| Subject: | Re: Obfuscatory perambulation |
You work with Kermit Carlson?
-----Original Message-----
>From: Dan Yocum <yocum@fnal.gov>
>Sent: Apr 8, 2010 10:16 AM
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Obfuscatory perambulation
>
>
>Strangely, or maybe not so strangely, this sounds very much like many of
>the presentations given here at Fermilab. As an example, here's the
>caption on a diagram given in today's edition of "Fermilab Today":
>
> The two-jet mass spectrum in the three b-quark event sample
> from in 2.5 inverse femtobarns of CDF data. bbB, bBb, etc. are
> nicknames for Standard Model processes with three b-quarks that
> comprise most of the sample. The small SUSY-Higgs-like excess
> is shown in red.
>
>Today's issue is at the following link. And yes, that is an article
>about a rapper who raps about science. Kids, these days...
>
>http://www.fnal.gov/pub/today/archive_2010/today10-04-08.html
>
>
>Enjoy!
>Dan
>
>
>On 04/05/2010 01:24 PM, TOM STINEMETZE wrote:
>> *The gentleman in this video has been hired by the Crank Snappin'
>> Corvair Society (CS) to articulate our cause to the masses. I am sure
>> that you will all understand the veracity of our prognostications re:
>> our choice of motive appliance, once you hear him.*
>> **
>> http://home.comcast.net/~steveham21/turbo.mpg
>> The real story is as follows:
>> Several years ago, Rockwell International decided to get into the heavy
>> duty transmission business. They were getting ready to tape a first
>> introduction video, and as a warm up, the professional narrator began
>> what has become a legend within the trucking industry. This man should
>> have won an academy award for his stellar performance. Now remember this
>> is strictly off the cuff, nothing is written down, this became the
>> biggest talk in the industry, vs the new product which they were
>> introducing.
>> Stinemetze
>> N328X
>
>
>--
>Dan Yocum
>Fermilab 630.840.6509
>yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
>"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: SNF Piet forums? |
I'm looking to sit in one. Ideally, I'd like to sit in two; a standard one and
a long one. I'll be working in the metal shaping workshop, but I've got business
to attend here and won't be arriving until Thursday morning (commercial flight
into TPA late Wed).
Jim
-----Original Message-----
>From: Ben Charvet <bcharvet@bellsouth.net>
>Sent: Apr 8, 2010 1:03 PM
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: SNF Piet forums?
>
>
>I don't remember ever seeing a formal Pietenpol forum at Sun-N-Fun.
>Lots of Pietenpol folks hang out at the woodworking shop though. Looks
>like there may be 4 Pietenpols there. Right now I'm hoping to fly in on
>Wed and stay through Sat AM.
>
>Ben CHarvet
>NX866BC
>22.3 hours into Phase 1, hoping for good weather this weekend
>
>On 4/8/2010 9:00 AM, Jim Ash wrote:
>> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Jim Ash<ashcan@earthlink.net>
>>
>>
>> Does anybody have a line on the SNF forum schedule and when the Piet forum(s)
is/are?
>>
>> Jim Ash
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Alternative to $84.00 wing strut forks |
I am putting my next ACS order together and was going to buy the wing strut
forks. However, I am curious if anyone has an alternative to buying these
at over $84.00 each?
-
The usual places...(Mc Master) have clevis rod ends but they are very inexp
ensive and I doubt they are a good aircraft replacement.
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from Jack:
...how will tempature and humidity effect the mixture?
and from Rick:
And dew-point and atmospheric pressure?
The answer to your questions, Jack and Rick, is:
"Just the right amount."
BC
once again,
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I HAVE 15 HOURS ON MINE NOW, AND SHOULD HAVE 40 HRS FLOWN IN TIME FOR BRODHEAD.
i WILL BE CARVING A COUPLE OF PROPS AT SUN N FUN SO STOP BY TO SAY HELLO. GARDINER
MASON.
________________________________
From: Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com>
Sent: Thu, April 8, 2010 4:46:08 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Mixing t-88
How many more hours before the Lovely Bride says she'll go for a ride?
Sorry, couldn't resist. ;)
Ryan
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On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 3:30 PM, Dan Yocum <yocum@fnal.gov> wrote:
>
>
>>On 04/08/2010 03:10 PM, airlion wrote:
>
>>>It seems that there is too much talk about how to mix T88.
>>
>
>Slow news day. Next up: watching paint dry! Followed by apple slices turning
brown!
>
>>So, how many hours do you have on your shiny new Piet, now?
>
>>I got out for 3.2hr the other day. Only 3.5 more until the Insurance Man says
I can take my lovely bride for a ride.
>
>>Dan
>
>>--
>>Dan Yocum
>>Fermilab 630.840.6509
>yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
>>"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: SNF Piet forums? |
You're looking to sit in a standard forum and a long one as well? I'd suggest bringing
a good seat cushion - especially if it's a vacuum-bagging forum.
(Just pulling your chain, Jim)
Bill C.
I'm looking to sit in one. Ideally, I'd like to sit in two; a standard one and
a long one. I'll be working in the metal shaping workshop, but I've got business
to attend here and won't be arriving until Thursday morning (commercial flight
into TPA late Wed).
Jim
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| Subject: | Re: Alternative to $84.00 wing strut forks |
If you are going to sun n fun you could probably find them a lot cheaper at the
fly mart. Gardiner
________________________________
From: Michael Perez <speedbrake@sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Thu, April 8, 2010 6:57:57 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Alternative to $84.00 wing strut forks
I am putting my next ACS order together and was going to buy the wing strut forks.
However, I am curious if anyone has an alternative to buying these at over
$84.00 each?
The usual places...(Mc Master) have clevis rod ends but they are very inexpensive
and I doubt they are a good aircraft replacement.
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| Subject: | Re: SNF Piet forums? |
I have a long one...(I hope your are talking about the fuselage).
Hopefully we can meet up and you can climb in and see how it fits. My
cell # is 321-961-5117.
Ben
On 4/8/2010 6:46 PM, Jim Ash wrote:
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Jim Ash<ashcan@earthlink.net>
>
> I'm looking to sit in one. Ideally, I'd like to sit in two; a standard one and
a long one. I'll be working in the metal shaping workshop, but I've got business
to attend here and won't be arriving until Thursday morning (commercial flight
into TPA late Wed).
>
> Jim
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
>> From: Ben Charvet<bcharvet@bellsouth.net>
>> Sent: Apr 8, 2010 1:03 PM
>> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: SNF Piet forums?
>>
>> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Ben Charvet<bcharvet@bellsouth.net>
>>
>> I don't remember ever seeing a formal Pietenpol forum at Sun-N-Fun.
>> Lots of Pietenpol folks hang out at the woodworking shop though. Looks
>> like there may be 4 Pietenpols there. Right now I'm hoping to fly in on
>> Wed and stay through Sat AM.
>>
>> Ben CHarvet
>> NX866BC
>> 22.3 hours into Phase 1, hoping for good weather this weekend
>>
>> On 4/8/2010 9:00 AM, Jim Ash wrote:
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>>> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Jim Ash<ashcan@earthlink.net>
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>>> Does anybody have a line on the SNF forum schedule and when the Piet forum(s)
is/are?
>>>
>>> Jim Ash
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| Subject: | Re: SNF Piet forums? |
Dang, how long WAS my vacuum-bagging forum anyway????? Maybe I stretched it out
thinking everyone was as impressed with me as I was.... :-) (JUST KIDDING!!!)
I would do another one on some future Brodhead trip and try to keep it shorter
(not really) but I don't think I could keep a straight face for any of it....
:-)
pokity, pokity, pokity.......
-----Original Message-----
>From: Bill Church <billspiet@sympatico.ca>
>Sent: Apr 8, 2010 5:09 PM
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: SNF Piet forums?
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>You're looking to sit in a standard forum and a long one as well? I'd suggest
bringing a good seat cushion - especially if it's a vacuum-bagging forum.
>
>(Just pulling your chain, Jim)
>
>Bill C.
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>I'm looking to sit in one. Ideally, I'd like to sit in two; a standard one and
a long one. I'll be working in the metal shaping workshop, but I've got business
to attend here and won't be arriving until Thursday morning (commercial flight
into TPA late Wed).
>
>Jim
>
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>Read this topic online here:
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>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=293569#293569
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| Subject: | Re: SNF Piet forums? |
Guys,
SNF is already there and I can=C2=B4t fit inside myself. Me and my dad
are coming, as I=C2=B4ve probably mentioned in some message before, but
It=C2=B4s never too much to come and say that I=C2=B4m really looking fowar
d
to meet you guys. It=C2=B4ll be our first major air event (we are both
doctors) and my father=C2=B4s first time to the US (yesterday I had to
punch him in the stomach so he would stop laughing). Since we=C2=B4re
first timers, any help fitting in is welcome.
See you in the woodwork tent
regards
Rodrigo and Jos=C3=A9 Oliveira
Brazil
On Qui 8/04/10 21:49 , Jim Markle jim_markle@mindspring.com sent:
Dang, how long WAS my vacuum-bagging forum anyway????? Maybe I
stretched it out thinking everyone was as impressed with me as I
was.... :-) (JUST KIDDING!!!)
I would do another one on some future Brodhead trip and try to keep
it shorter (not really) but I don't think I could keep a straight
face for any of it.... :-)
pokity, pokity, pokity.......
-----Original Message-----
>From: Bill Church
>Sent: Apr 8, 2010 5:09 PM
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com [3]
>Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: SNF Piet forums?
>
>
>You're looking to sit in a standard forum and a long one as well?
I'd suggest bringing a good seat cushion - especially if it's a
vacuum-bagging forum.
>
>(Just pulling your chain, Jim)
>
>Bill C.
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>I'm looking to sit in one. Ideally, I'd like to sit in two; a
standard one and a long one. I'll be working in the metal shaping
workshop, but I've got business to attend here and won't be arriving
until Thursday morning (commercial flight into TPA late Wed).
>
>Jim
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>Read this topic online here:
>
>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=293569#293569 [5]
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