---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 04/09/10: 27 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:29 AM - my wing repair at SNF (Douwe Blumberg) 2. 04:56 AM - Re: my wing repair at SNF (Ben Charvet) 3. 05:49 AM - Re: Re: Obfuscatory perambulationObfuscatory perambulation (Stu Brown) 4. 06:22 AM - Re: Re: SNF Piet forums? (Jim Ash) 5. 06:24 AM - Re: SNF Piet forums? (Jim Ash) 6. 06:34 AM - Re: Re: SNF Piet forums? (TOM STINEMETZE) 7. 06:40 AM - Re: Re: SNF Piet forums? (Jim Markle) 8. 07:01 AM - GN-1 and Corvair project for sale (bryan green) 9. 07:03 AM - Re: my wing repair at SNF (John Recine) 10. 07:17 AM - Re: Re: simple mixing of T-88 (John Recine) 11. 07:17 AM - Re: my wing repair at SNF (Dan Yocum) 12. 07:28 AM - Re: my wing repair at SNF (Jim Ash) 13. 07:41 AM - Re: my wing repair at SNF (John Recine) 14. 09:13 AM - Re: my wing repair at SNF (brian.e.jardine@l-3com.com) 15. 09:23 AM - Stromberg carb (brian.e.jardine@l-3com.com) 16. 09:55 AM - Re: Stromberg carb (Ryan Mueller) 17. 09:57 AM - special note about T-88 (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]) 18. 11:10 AM - Re: Stromberg carb (ALAN LYSCARS) 19. 11:42 AM - Thanks (Lagowski Morrow) 20. 12:09 PM - Re: special note about T-88 (Rick Holland) 21. 12:13 PM - Re: Re: simple mixing of T-88 (H RULE) 22. 12:23 PM - Re: special note about T-88 (H RULE) 23. 07:23 PM - Re: Re: SNF Piet forums? (Jim Ash) 24. 07:46 PM - Re: special note about T-88 (Steve Glass) 25. 09:05 PM - Re: Re: Re: Re: Mike Groah--your side door (Jim) 26. 09:07 PM - Re: Re: Re: Re: Mike Groah--your side door (Jim) 27. 09:44 PM - Re: special note about T-88 (jorge lizarraga) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:29:51 AM PST US From: "Douwe Blumberg" Subject: Pietenpol-List: my wing repair at SNF Hello all, One of the unforseen blessings of this all has been getting to see and experience the generosity of fellow Pietsters. Yesterday Dick N drove out of his way from MN to FL to get my wing and fin so it could be worked on by the gang at Sun N' Fun. I can't tell you what a boost that gave me. I don't know how far they'll get, if they'll do the wood, if they'll get to recover the half or what, but it is so very much appreciated. I am going to get the fuse back to the shop in the next few days, pull the engine and dig in. If I can get it here in time, looks like John will be in the area next week and wants to come down during his evenings to help out, plus I've had others offering to come on down for a work session. It was super cool what we were able to do for the Markle project, and how it is super cool to be on the receiving end for mine. Thanks all! Cheers, Douwe ps. I might have a new name for her... "RE-PIET"... ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:56:27 AM PST US From: Ben Charvet Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: my wing repair at SNF Just when I was wondering what I was going to do for 3 or 4 days at Sun-N-Fun! Now I have a mission! Ben Charvet NX866BC On 4/9/2010 7:32 AM, Douwe Blumberg wrote: > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Douwe Blumberg" > > Hello all, > > One of the unforseen blessings of this all has been getting to see and > experience the generosity of fellow Pietsters. > > Yesterday Dick N drove out of his way from MN to FL to get my wing and fin > so it could be worked on by the gang at Sun N' Fun. > > I can't tell you what a boost that gave me. I don't know how far they'll > get, if they'll do the wood, if they'll get to recover the half or what, but > it is so very much appreciated. > > I am going to get the fuse back to the shop in the next few days, pull the > engine and dig in. If I can get it here in time, looks like John will be in > the area next week and wants to come down during his evenings to help out, > plus I've had others offering to come on down for a work session. > > It was super cool what we were able to do for the Markle project, and how it > is super cool to be on the receiving end for mine. > > Thanks all! > > Cheers, > > Douwe > > ps. I might have a new name for her... "RE-PIET"... > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:49:43 AM PST US From: Stu Brown Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Obfuscatory perambulationObfuscatory perambulation This was done in 1-take. The actor was goofing around. His job was making a film for Allison transmissions for presentation to GM. ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:22:25 AM PST US From: Jim Ash Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: SNF Piet forums? I never saw the point in vacuum-bagging. To my knowledge, none of my vacuums over the years have ever needed bagging, so I've never bothered sitting in any of the forums, long or short. Am I missing something? Jim -----Original Message----- >From: Jim Markle >Sent: Apr 8, 2010 8:49 PM >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: SNF Piet forums? > > >Dang, how long WAS my vacuum-bagging forum anyway????? Maybe I stretched it out thinking everyone was as impressed with me as I was.... :-) (JUST KIDDING!!!) > >I would do another one on some future Brodhead trip and try to keep it shorter (not really) but I don't think I could keep a straight face for any of it.... :-) > >pokity, pokity, pokity....... > >-----Original Message----- >>From: Bill Church >>Sent: Apr 8, 2010 5:09 PM >>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >>Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: SNF Piet forums? >> >> >>You're looking to sit in a standard forum and a long one as well? I'd suggest bringing a good seat cushion - especially if it's a vacuum-bagging forum. >> >>(Just pulling your chain, Jim) >> >>Bill C. >> >> >>I'm looking to sit in one. Ideally, I'd like to sit in two; a standard one and a long one. I'll be working in the metal shaping workshop, but I've got business to attend here and won't be arriving until Thursday morning (commercial flight into TPA late Wed). >> >>Jim >> >> >> >> >>Read this topic online here: >> >>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=293569#293569 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:24:10 AM PST US From: Jim Ash Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: SNF Piet forums? Ben - Thanks - I seriously look forward to it, and I'll try to hunt you down. My cel # is (603) 991-4993, but I can't hear it half the time in the workshop. It would probably be easiest to wander over to the metal shaping tent sometime starting Thursday morning and look for the longest beard. Jim -----Original Message----- >From: Ben Charvet >Sent: Apr 8, 2010 7:29 PM >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: SNF Piet forums? > > >I have a long one...(I hope your are talking about the fuselage). >Hopefully we can meet up and you can climb in and see how it fits. My >cell # is 321-961-5117. > >Ben > >On 4/8/2010 6:46 PM, Jim Ash wrote: >> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Jim Ash >> >> I'm looking to sit in one. Ideally, I'd like to sit in two; a standard one and a long one. I'll be working in the metal shaping workshop, but I've got business to attend here and won't be arriving until Thursday morning (commercial flight into TPA late Wed). >> >> Jim >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >>> From: Ben Charvet >>> Sent: Apr 8, 2010 1:03 PM >>> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >>> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: SNF Piet forums? >>> >>> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Ben Charvet >>> >>> I don't remember ever seeing a formal Pietenpol forum at Sun-N-Fun. >>> Lots of Pietenpol folks hang out at the woodworking shop though. Looks >>> like there may be 4 Pietenpols there. Right now I'm hoping to fly in on >>> Wed and stay through Sat AM. >>> >>> Ben CHarvet >>> NX866BC >>> 22.3 hours into Phase 1, hoping for good weather this weekend >>> >>> On 4/8/2010 9:00 AM, Jim Ash wrote: >>> >>>> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Jim Ash >>>> >>>> >>>> Does anybody have a line on the SNF forum schedule and when the Piet forum(s) is/are? >>>> >>>> Jim Ash >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:34:38 AM PST US From: "TOM STINEMETZE" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: SNF Piet forums? Jim: I believe if you don't bag your vacuums about once a year, the hydrocoptic marzel vanes get misaligned and you run the risk of snapping your crank. Stinemetze do not archive please >>> Jim Ash 4/9/2010 8:15 AM >>> I never saw the point in vacuum-bagging. To my knowledge, none of my vacuums over the years have ever needed bagging, so I've never bothered sitting in any of the forums, long or short. Am I missing something? Jim ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 06:40:27 AM PST US From: Jim Markle Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: SNF Piet forums? We live in the country...so our vacuum NEVER has a chance to be kept in a bag! In fact, it never even gets "put away".... And after digging a 600' trench in my front yard last week...well, you think maybe some dirt got tracked in???? :-) What a blessing to have a patient loving wife..... jm -----Original Message----- >From: Jim Ash >Sent: Apr 9, 2010 7:15 AM >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: SNF Piet forums? > > >I never saw the point in vacuum-bagging. To my knowledge, none of my vacuums over the years have ever needed bagging, so I've never bothered sitting in any of the forums, long or short. Am I missing something? > >Jim > > >-----Original Message----- >>From: Jim Markle >>Sent: Apr 8, 2010 8:49 PM >>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >>Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: SNF Piet forums? >> >> >>Dang, how long WAS my vacuum-bagging forum anyway????? Maybe I stretched it out thinking everyone was as impressed with me as I was.... :-) (JUST KIDDING!!!) >> >>I would do another one on some future Brodhead trip and try to keep it shorter (not really) but I don't think I could keep a straight face for any of it.... :-) >> >>pokity, pokity, pokity....... >> >>-----Original Message----- >>>From: Bill Church >>>Sent: Apr 8, 2010 5:09 PM >>>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >>>Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: SNF Piet forums? >>> >>> >>>You're looking to sit in a standard forum and a long one as well? I'd suggest bringing a good seat cushion - especially if it's a vacuum-bagging forum. >>> >>>(Just pulling your chain, Jim) >>> >>>Bill C. >>> >>> >>>I'm looking to sit in one. Ideally, I'd like to sit in two; a standard one and a long one. I'll be working in the metal shaping workshop, but I've got business to attend here and won't be arriving until Thursday morning (commercial flight into TPA late Wed). >>> >>>Jim >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>Read this topic online here: >>> >>>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=293569#293569 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 07:01:20 AM PST US From: "bryan green" Subject: Pietenpol-List: GN-1 and Corvair project for sale I have uploaded pics and docs to the photo and file section of the Grega GN-1 yahoo group. If interested e-mail me off list with phone number. Do not archive Bryan Green Elgin SC ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 07:03:28 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: my wing repair at SNF From: "John Recine" "A fellow lover of the blue may be in trouble" John ------Original Message------ From: Douwe Blumberg Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com ReplyTo: Pietenpol builders Board Subject: Pietenpol-List: my wing repair at SNF Sent: Apr 9, 2010 7:32 AM Hello all, One of the unforseen blessings of this all has been getting to see and experience the generosity of fellow Pietsters. Yesterday Dick N drove out of his way from MN to FL to get my wing and fin so it could be worked on by the gang at Sun N' Fun. I can't tell you what a boost that gave me. I don't know how far they'll get, if they'll do the wood, if they'll get to recover the half or what, but it is so very much appreciated. I am going to get the fuse back to the shop in the next few days, pull the engine and dig in. If I can get it here in time, looks like John will be in the area next week and wants to come down during his evenings to help out, plus I've had others offering to come on down for a work session. It was super cool what we were able to do for the Markle project, and how it is super cool to be on the receiving end for mine. Thanks all! Cheers, Douwe ps. I might have a new name for her... "RE-PIET"... Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 07:17:47 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: simple mixing of T-88 From: "John Recine" Oh no here at mickey Ds and gonna Markle some of the plastic coffee stirrers to mix and apply my epoxy. Oh no I feel the Markle over taking me as I am unavoidably compelled. Must Markle stirrers, must markle,must markel, mmmmmuuuuuusssssssttttt mmmmmaaaaaarrrrkkkkllllenoooow......... Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: "coxwelljon" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: simple mixing of T-88 [quote="aadamson1(at)centurytel.n"]Hey guys, With all due respect to everyones suggestions for mixing T-88. The simplest thing to do isgo to Fleet-Farm (or another farm supply store) and buy the largest syringes available. I buy 30cm size. Pour part A in one syringe and part B in a second syringe. They are marked in cms so mixing is accurate, are easy to use, are inexpensive and readily available. Thats the only way Id mix T-88. Arden Adamson New London, WI > [b] I saw my fellow EAA'r last night and asked him what he had used. He is building Hatz classic wings. He is frugal, methodical and smart. He buys buys double barrel syringes from McMastars-Carr (on line) along with mixing tips, and cleans them by soaking them in a closed container of MEK. Said he is able to get multiple uses out of the syringes and tips. I use white vinegar for T-88 clean up but I don't know if it would clean it out of a syringe. Jon Coxwell -------- Jon Coxwell GN-1 Builder Recycle and preserve the planet Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=293534#293534 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 07:17:47 AM PST US From: Dan Yocum Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: my wing repair at SNF Dear All, This group of people never ceases to impress me. I count myself lucky to know you, if only through email and IM messages. The sun is shining, the birds are singing, and Douwe's getting a repaired wing. Ain't life grand! Cheers! Dan On 04/09/2010 06:32 AM, Douwe Blumberg wrote: > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Douwe Blumberg" > > Hello all, > > One of the unforseen blessings of this all has been getting to see and > experience the generosity of fellow Pietsters. > > Yesterday Dick N drove out of his way from MN to FL to get my wing and fin > so it could be worked on by the gang at Sun N' Fun. > > I can't tell you what a boost that gave me. I don't know how far they'll > get, if they'll do the wood, if they'll get to recover the half or what, but > it is so very much appreciated. > > I am going to get the fuse back to the shop in the next few days, pull the > engine and dig in. If I can get it here in time, looks like John will be in > the area next week and wants to come down during his evenings to help out, > plus I've had others offering to come on down for a work session. > > It was super cool what we were able to do for the Markle project, and how it > is super cool to be on the receiving end for mine. > > Thanks all! > > Cheers, > > Douwe > > ps. I might have a new name for her... "RE-PIET"... -- Dan Yocum Fermilab 630.840.6509 yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things." ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 07:28:33 AM PST US From: Jim Ash Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: my wing repair at SNF I'm hoping to get across the way and participate in some of the un-carnage on Douwe's wing. Jim -----Original Message----- >From: John Recine >Sent: Apr 9, 2010 10:03 AM >To: Pietenpol builders Board >Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: my wing repair at SNF > > >"A fellow lover of the blue may be in trouble" > >John >------Original Message------ >From: Douwe Blumberg >Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com >To: Pietenpol builders Board >ReplyTo: Pietenpol builders Board >Subject: Pietenpol-List: my wing repair at SNF >Sent: Apr 9, 2010 7:32 AM > > >Hello all, > >One of the unforseen blessings of this all has been getting to see and >experience the generosity of fellow Pietsters. > >Yesterday Dick N drove out of his way from MN to FL to get my wing and fin >so it could be worked on by the gang at Sun N' Fun. > >I can't tell you what a boost that gave me. I don't know how far they'll >get, if they'll do the wood, if they'll get to recover the half or what, but >it is so very much appreciated. > >I am going to get the fuse back to the shop in the next few days, pull the >engine and dig in. If I can get it here in time, looks like John will be in >the area next week and wants to come down during his evenings to help out, >plus I've had others offering to come on down for a work session. > >It was super cool what we were able to do for the Markle project, and how it >is super cool to be on the receiving end for mine. > >Thanks all! > >Cheers, > >Douwe > >ps. I might have a new name for her... "RE-PIET"... > > >Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 07:41:58 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: my wing repair at SNF From: "John Recine" Its just April now and Brodhead is still several weeks away to get her up in the air, it can happen. We have accomplished more than that in less time than that. We can do anything we decide to do John Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: Jim Ash Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: my wing repair at SNF I'm hoping to get across the way and participate in some of the un-carnage on Douwe's wing. Jim -----Original Message----- >From: John Recine >Sent: Apr 9, 2010 10:03 AM >To: Pietenpol builders Board >Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: my wing repair at SNF > > >"A fellow lover of the blue may be in trouble" > >John >------Original Message------ >From: Douwe Blumberg >Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com >To: Pietenpol builders Board >ReplyTo: Pietenpol builders Board >Subject: Pietenpol-List: my wing repair at SNF >Sent: Apr 9, 2010 7:32 AM > > >Hello all, > >One of the unforseen blessings of this all has been getting to see and >experience the generosity of fellow Pietsters. > >Yesterday Dick N drove out of his way from MN to FL to get my wing and fin >so it could be worked on by the gang at Sun N' Fun. > >I can't tell you what a boost that gave me. I don't know how far they'll >get, if they'll do the wood, if they'll get to recover the half or what, but >it is so very much appreciated. > >I am going to get the fuse back to the shop in the next few days, pull the >engine and dig in. If I can get it here in time, looks like John will be in >the area next week and wants to come down during his evenings to help out, >plus I've had others offering to come on down for a work session. > >It was super cool what we were able to do for the Markle project, and how it >is super cool to be on the receiving end for mine. > >Thanks all! > >Cheers, > >Douwe > >ps. I might have a new name for her... "RE-PIET"... > > >Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 09:13:20 AM PST US From: brian.e.jardine@l-3com.com Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: my wing repair at SNF I like the new name "RE-Piet" Douwe Brian SLC-UT -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Recine Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 8:03 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: my wing repair at SNF "A fellow lover of the blue may be in trouble" John ------Original Message------ From: Douwe Blumberg Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com ReplyTo: Pietenpol builders Board Subject: Pietenpol-List: my wing repair at SNF Sent: Apr 9, 2010 7:32 AM Hello all, One of the unforseen blessings of this all has been getting to see and experience the generosity of fellow Pietsters. Yesterday Dick N drove out of his way from MN to FL to get my wing and fin so it could be worked on by the gang at Sun N' Fun. I can't tell you what a boost that gave me. I don't know how far they'll get, if they'll do the wood, if they'll get to recover the half or what, but it is so very much appreciated. I am going to get the fuse back to the shop in the next few days, pull the engine and dig in. If I can get it here in time, looks like John will be in the area next week and wants to come down during his evenings to help out, plus I've had others offering to come on down for a work session. It was super cool what we were able to do for the Markle project, and how it is super cool to be on the receiving end for mine. Thanks all! Cheers, Douwe ps. I might have a new name for her... "RE-PIET"... Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 09:23:56 AM PST US From: brian.e.jardine@l-3com.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: Stromberg carb IA0KDQpHcm91cCwNCg0KSSBoYXZlIGJlZW4gd2F0Y2hpbmcgYSBmZXcgYWRzIGZvciBhIFN0cm9t YmVyZyBjYXJiIGZvciBteSDigJxjcmFuayBzbmFwaW7igJ0gQ29ydmFpci4gV2hpY2ggd291bGQg YmUgdGhlIHByZWZlcnJlZCBjYXJiIHRoZSBOQS1TM0Egb3IgdGhlIE5BLVMzQiBvciBkb2VzIGl0 IG5vdCBtYWtlIGEgZGlmZmVyZW5jZT8NCg0KIA0KDQpCcmlhbg0KDQpTTEMtVVQNCg0K ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 09:55:22 AM PST US From: Ryan Mueller Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Stromberg carb Either should be configurable for a Corvair. Ryan Sent from my iPhone On Apr 9, 2010, at 11:19 AM, brian.e.jardine@l-3com.com wrote: > > > Group, > > I have been watching a few ads for a Stromberg carb for my > =9A=C3=84=C3=BAcrank snapin=9A=C3=84=C3=B9 Corvair. Which would be the preferred carb > the NA-S3A or the NA-S3B or does it not make a difference? > > > Brian > > SLC-UT > > =C2=B6=88=91=C3=B5~=C3=A2=C3=8C=89=A4,=EF=AC=81=C5=B8 %=C2=A2=CE=A94=9DM4}=C3=9F=1Er=C3=A3=C2=B4=C3=A2=C3=8D=C3=81{=07( =88=AB=88=8F=C3=BB ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 09:57:55 AM PST US From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]" Subject: Pietenpol-List: special note about T-88 I have heard that you should NEVER mix T-88 during a full moon or or if your dog is in heat. Otherwise, you just mix them 50/50 parts per volume and that is it. Wow-- I'm getting nauseated. Where is my Milk of Magnesia ? Mike C. do not archive ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 11:10:15 AM PST US From: "ALAN LYSCARS" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Stromberg carb Brian, These carbs- the 3a and 3b- are functionally identical. The "3a" has a functional mixture control, while the "3b" does not. The mixture control on the 3a has no effect for us Corvair users operating below 8,000 feet MSL. The control does not work as an idle-cutoff as one might expect. Rather, it can be used for leaning the burn at cruise, but is only effective at high elevations. Most if not all 3a's had their mixture wired in the "full rich" position when attached to C65's or C85's. Hope this helps. Al Lyscars Manchester, NH ----- Original Message ----- From: brian.e.jardine@l-3com.com To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 12:19 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Stromberg carb Group, I have been watching a few ads for a Stromberg carb for my =9Ccrank snapin=9D Corvair. Which would be the preferred carb the NA-S3A or the NA-S3B or does it not make a difference? Brian SLC-UT =EF=BD=EF=BD=EF=BD~=EF=BD=EF=BD=EF=BD,=DE=AE=E9=A2=A2=EF =BD=EF=BD ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 11:42:33 AM PST US From: "Lagowski Morrow" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Thanks Thanks for the humor and friendly sarcasm. I enjoy reading it--Jim Lagowski do not archive ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 12:09:28 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: special note about T-88 From: Rick Holland Yes Mikey, sniffin that glue, (even T-88) does tend to nauseate one doesn't it? rick dna On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 10:57 AM, Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation] wrote: > Aerospace Corporation]" > > I have heard that you should NEVER mix T-88 during a full moon or > or if your dog is in heat. > > Otherwise, you just mix them 50/50 parts per volume and that is it. > > Wow-- I'm getting nauseated. Where is my Milk of Magnesia ? > > Mike C. > > do not archive > > -- Rick Holland Castle Rock, Colorado "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad" ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 12:13:22 PM PST US From: H RULE Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: simple mixing of T-88 He is Marvelous isn't he!I shall call him Marvelous Markle from now on.=0Ad o not arcive=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: John Re cine =0ATo: Pietenpol builders Board =0ASent: Fri, April 9, 2010 10:16:05 AM=0ASubject: Re: Pietenpol "John Recine" =0A=0AOh no here at mickey Ds and gonna M arkle some of the plastic coffee stirrers to mix and apply my epoxy.=C2- =0A=0AOh no I feel the Markle over taking me as I am unavoidably compelled. =0A=0AMust Markle stirrers, must markle,must markel, mmmmmuuuuuusssssssttt tt mmmmmaaaaaarrrrkkkkllllenoooow.........=0ASent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry=0A=0A-----Original Message-----=0AFrom: "coxwelljon" =0ADate: Thu,=C2- 8 Apr 2010 12:00:39 =0ATo: =0ASubject: Pietenpol-List: Re: simple mixing of T-88=0A et.net>=0A=0A[quote="aadamson1(at)centurytel.n"]Hey guys,=C2- =0A=C2- =0AWith all due respect to everyone=C3=A2=82=AC=84=A2s suggestions f or mixing T-88.=C2- The simplest thing to do is=C3=A2=82=AC=9Dgo to Fleet-Farm (or another farm supply store) and buy the largest syringes available.=C2- I buy 30cm size.=C2- Pour part A in one syringe and part B in a second syringe.=C2- They are marked=C2- in cm=C3=A2=82=AC =84=A2s so mixing is accurate, are easy to use, are inexpensive and readily available.=C2- That=C3=A2=82=AC=84=A2s the only way I=C3=A2=82 =AC=84=A2d mix T-88.=C2- =0A=C2- =0AArden Adamson=C2- =0ANew Londo n, WI=C2- =0A=C2- =0A=C2- =C2- =C2- =0A> [b]=0A=0A=0AI saw my fel low EAA'r last night and asked him what he had used.=C2- He is building H atz classic wings.=C2- He is frugal, methodical and smart.=C2- He buys buys double barrel syringes from McMastars-Carr (on line) along with mixing tips, and cleans them by soaking them in a closed container of MEK.=C2- Said he is able to get multiple uses out of the syringes and tips.=0A=0AI u se white vinegar for T-88 clean up but I don't know if it would clean it ou t of a syringe.=0A=0AJon Coxwell=0A=0A--------=0AJon Coxwell=C2- =0AGN-1 Builder=0ARecycle and preserve the planet=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic onl ine here:=0A=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=293534#293534 ==C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- - The Pietenpol-List Email Forum -=0A - =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- - ============= ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 12:23:05 PM PST US From: H RULE Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: special note about T-88 To mix T88 you must be in full scuba gear from head to toe lest you get inf iltrated.=0Ado not archive=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________ =0AFrom: Rick Holland =0ATo: pietenpol-list@matronics.c om=0ASent: Fri, April 9, 2010 3:08:48 PM=0ASubject: Re: Pietenpol-List: spe cial note about T-88=0A=0AYes Mikey, sniffin that glue, (even T-88) does te nd to nauseate one doesn't it?=0A=0Arick=0A=0Adna=0A=0A=0AOn Fri, Apr 9, 20 10 at 10:57 AM, Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation] =0A>=0A>I have heard that you should NEVER mix T-88 during a full moon or =0A>or if your dog is in heat.=0A>=0A>Otherwise, you just mix them 50/50 pa rts per volume and that is it.=0A>=0A>Wow-- I'm getting nauseated. - Wher e is my Milk of Magnesia ?=0A>=0A>Mike C.=0A>=0A>do not archive=0A>=0A>=0A> =0A>============0A>st" target="_blank">http://www.m atronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List=0A>=========== =0A>http://forums.matronics.com=0A>============0A>le, List Admin.=0A>="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution=0A>== ==========0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A=0A=0A-- =0ARick Holland=0ACa stle Rock, Colorado=0A=0A"Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell b ================ ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 07:23:13 PM PST US From: Jim Ash Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: SNF Piet forums? You putting in a seaplane runway? -----Original Message----- >From: Jim Markle >Sent: Apr 9, 2010 9:39 AM >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: SNF Piet forums? > > >We live in the country...so our vacuum NEVER has a chance to be kept in a bag! In fact, it never even gets "put away".... > >And after digging a 600' trench in my front yard last week...well, you think maybe some dirt got tracked in???? :-) What a blessing to have a patient loving wife..... > >jm > >-----Original Message----- >>From: Jim Ash >>Sent: Apr 9, 2010 7:15 AM >>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >>Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: SNF Piet forums? >> >> >>I never saw the point in vacuum-bagging. To my knowledge, none of my vacuums over the years have ever needed bagging, so I've never bothered sitting in any of the forums, long or short. Am I missing something? >> >>Jim >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>>From: Jim Markle >>>Sent: Apr 8, 2010 8:49 PM >>>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >>>Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: SNF Piet forums? >>> >>> >>>Dang, how long WAS my vacuum-bagging forum anyway????? Maybe I stretched it out thinking everyone was as impressed with me as I was.... :-) (JUST KIDDING!!!) >>> >>>I would do another one on some future Brodhead trip and try to keep it shorter (not really) but I don't think I could keep a straight face for any of it.... :-) >>> >>>pokity, pokity, pokity....... >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>>From: Bill Church >>>>Sent: Apr 8, 2010 5:09 PM >>>>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >>>>Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: SNF Piet forums? >>>> >>>> >>>>You're looking to sit in a standard forum and a long one as well? I'd suggest bringing a good seat cushion - especially if it's a vacuum-bagging forum. >>>> >>>>(Just pulling your chain, Jim) >>>> >>>>Bill C. >>>> >>>> >>>>I'm looking to sit in one. Ideally, I'd like to sit in two; a standard one and a long one. I'll be working in the metal shaping workshop, but I've got business to attend here and won't be arriving until Thursday morning (commercial flight into TPA late Wed). >>>> >>>>Jim >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>Read this topic online here: >>>> >>>>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=293569#293569 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 07:46:37 PM PST US From: Steve Glass Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: special note about T-88 Is it still 50/50 if you use the metric system? or do you have to convert it to cubits and work backwards? Steve in Maine > From: michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Date: Fri=2C 9 Apr 2010 11:57:15 -0500 > Subject: Pietenpol-List: special note about T-88 > Aerospace Corporation]" > > I have heard that you should NEVER mix T-88 during a full moon or > or if your dog is in heat. > > Otherwise=2C you just mix them 50/50 parts per volume and that is it. > > Wow-- I'm getting nauseated. Where is my Milk of Magnesia ? > > Mike C. > > do not archive > > > =========== =========== =========== =========== > > > ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 09:05:36 PM PST US From: Jim Subject: Re: RE: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Mike Groah--your side door thank you Gary. It is nice to be getting stuff done!!! Jim B. Jim Boyer Santa Rosa, CA Pietenpol on wheels Tail surfaces done Wing ribs done Corvair engine Apr 7, 2010 10:09:02 PM, pietenpol-list@matronics.com wrote: Nice panel, Jim! Gary Boothe Cool, CA Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion Tail done, Fuselage on gear 18 ribs done Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 9:36 PM Subject: Re: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Mike Groah--your side door Hi Mike and Gary, Here are the pictures of my door and rear cockpit added bracing. I rolled it outside in the sun thinking it would help but I think it added a lot of glare. Anyway hope this shows the difference in routing or not routing. Routing like Mike did makes it look a lot neater but have no idea how much weight it may save. Weight saved may not be as important as in how it looks. If I had been building it in initially I would have routed too (I think). Also a copy of instrument panel; its part of that picture group. Jim B. Jim Boyer Santa Rosa, CA Pietenpol on wheels Tail surfaces done Wing ribs done Corvair engine Apr 7, 2010 12:46:02 PM, pietenpol-list@matronics.com wrote: I don't know how much weight it saved. I didn't take the time to figure that all out. It was part of the door plans and I figured it was a good idea to offset the additional wood added by the door mod. Jim Boyer (who is on this list) weighed his pieces and can tell you how much extra weight the door mod adds. I'm sure the grooves reduces weight some and doesn't detract from strength enough to be a negative. Not every piece has been turned into an I beam, but quite a bit of it has. It was simple to do as I was building the fuselage. I just marked the distance I wanted the groove on each piece and took it to the router table. After that it got placed back into the fuselage jig and glued up. It is not routed under anyplace where a gusset goes. Mike Groah From: gtche98 Sent: Wed, April 7, 2010 11:59:52 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Mike Groah--your side door ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 09:07:42 PM PST US From: Jim Subject: Re: Re: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Mike Groah--your side door This is kinda late Harvey, but thank you for the nice comments. Jim B. Jim Boyer Santa Rosa, CA Pietenpol on wheels Tail surfaces done Wing ribs done Corvair engine Apr 8, 2010 05:23:17 AM, pietenpol-list@matronics.com wrote: Wow nice work;doors and all. do not archive From: Jim Sent: Thu, April 8, 2010 12:36:18 AM Subject: Re: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Mike Groah--your side door Hi Mike and Gary, Here are the pictures of my door and rear cockpit added bracing. I rolled it outside in the sun thinking it would help but I think it added a lot of glare. Anyway hope this shows the difference in routing or not routing. Routing like Mike did makes it look a lot neater but have no idea how much weight it may save. Weight saved may not be as important as in how it looks. If I had been building it in initially I would have routed too (I think). Also a copy of instrument panel; its part of that picture group. Jim B. Jim Boyer Santa Rosa, CA Pietenpol on wheels Tail surfaces done Wing ribs done Corvair engine Apr 7, 2010 12:46:02 PM, pietenpol-list@matronics.com wrote: I don't know how much weight it saved. I didn't take the time to figure that all out. It was part of the door plans and I figured it was a good idea to offset the additional wood added by the door mod. Jim Boyer (who is on this list) weighed his pieces and can tell you how much extra weight the door mod adds. I'm sure the grooves reduces weight some and doesn't detract from strength enough to be a negative. Not every piece has been turned into an I beam, but quite a bit of it has. It was simple to do as I was building the fuselage. I just marked the distance I wanted the groove on each piece and took it to the router table. After that it got placed back into the fuselage jig and glued up. It is not routed under anyplace where a gusset goes. Mike Groah From: gtche98 Sent: Wed, April 7, 2010 11:59:52 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Mike Groah--your side door ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 09:44:30 PM PST US From: jorge lizarraga Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: special note about T-88 you right mike I fell the same way but I foun more easy follow the eaa tecn ic take the soda pepsi or you like drink sof nicly and cool enjoy thad and wen the can is empty take the lid opening away tur over used these concave part in botom runn the glue the sa me pas true back and forwar same way and you have the perfect 50%amoun you need lern more about in eaa home buildin g proyec sugestion seyou later mike and tanks for all you soport sooner wen the weather is bether ster build some ribs and another bether landing gear .. --- On Fri, 4/9/10, Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation] wrote: From: Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation] Subject: Pietenpol-List: special note about T-88 space Corporation]" I have heard that you should NEVER mix T-88 during a full moon or or if your dog is in heat. Otherwise, you just mix them 50/50 parts per volume and that is it. Wow-- I'm getting nauseated.---Where is my Milk of Magnesia ? 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