---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 04/14/10: 23 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:26 AM - Re: Re: Shoulder Harness on 41CC (Clif Dawson) 2. 05:34 AM - Re: rigging the wings (skellytown flyer) 3. 06:03 AM - Re: Shoulder Harness on 41CC (Bill Church) 4. 06:05 AM - Re: Re: Shoulder Harness on 41CC (Tim Willis) 5. 06:19 AM - Re: Shoulder Harness on 41CC (Gene Rambo) 6. 06:19 AM - wing washout (Oscar Zuniga) 7. 06:21 AM - Re: Re: Shoulder Harness on 41CC (Jeff Boatright) 8. 08:01 AM - Re: Shoulder Harness on 41CC (AMsafetyC@aol.com) 9. 08:47 AM - Re: Re: Shoulder Harness on 41CC-- Bill Rewey Solution (Tim Willis) 10. 10:02 AM - off topic: new words in the vernacular (Oscar Zuniga) 11. 11:23 AM - Re: off topic: new words in the vernacular (AMsafetyC@aol.com) 12. 11:52 AM - Re: off topic: new words in the vernacular (TOM STINEMETZE) 13. 12:01 PM - Re: off topic: new words in the vernacular (Ryan Mueller) 14. 12:09 PM - Re: off topic: new words in the vernacular (Jim Markle) 15. 12:23 PM - Re: off topic: new words in the vernacular (TOM STINEMETZE) 16. 12:49 PM - Re: Re: Shoulder Harness on 41CC (Dan Yocum) 17. 12:49 PM - Re: off topic: new words in the vernacular (brian.e.jardine@l-3com.com) 18. 01:00 PM - Re: off topic: new words in the vernacular (Jim Markle) 19. 01:03 PM - Re: Mike Groah--your side door (womenfly2) 20. 01:17 PM - Re: off topic: new words in the vernacular (H RULE) 21. 01:33 PM - Re: off topic: new words in the vernacular (John Recine) 22. 05:08 PM - Re: Re: Shoulder Harness on 41CC (Tim Willis) 23. 07:43 PM - Re: Re: Shoulder Harness on 41CC (Clif Dawson) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:26:12 AM PST US From: "Clif Dawson" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Shoulder Harness on 41CC And these; http://www.parts123.com/parts123/yb.dll?parta~partsort Clif. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Catdesigns" Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 3:50 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Shoulder Harness on 41CC > > Looking at the pictures of Oscars plane the harness appears to be this > > http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/appages/harness3b.php > > with this clip replacing the bolt in tab that comes on the harness > > http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/appages/seatbelthardware.php > > the harness will work with this lap belt. > > http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/appages/seatbelt1a.php > > Cost for the complete setup, $143.50 > > Summit Racing has a good selection of seatbelts and harnesses for less > than 70 bucks if you can use a bolt in style and don?Tt mind the cam lock > buckle. > > http://www.summitracing.com/search/Part-Type/Belts-and-Harnesses/?Ns=Rank|Asc > > -------- > Chris > Sacramento, CA > WestCoastPiet.com > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=294112#294112 > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 13:22:00 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:34:41 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: rigging the wings From: "skellytown flyer" Well that sounds about like what I planned to use but it helps to know what is working. thanks.Raymond Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=294157#294157 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:03:10 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Shoulder Harness on 41CC From: "Bill Church" Clif, Linkee no workee. BC Clif wrote: And these; http://www.parts123.com/parts123/yb.dll?parta~partsort Clif. --- Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=294160#294160 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:05:26 AM PST US From: Tim Willis Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Shoulder Harness on 41CC That link would not open for me. I intend to copy Corky/Oscar's use of the cross-cables and a U-bolt to hook into. However, I will link a regular shoulder harness triangular endpiece with bolthole to the eyebolt by using an "emergency chain link." They may be bought at Home Depot or Tractor Supply. They are very strong and when tightened up should be very reliable. Another alternative is a real climbing carabiner of a similar threaded design. REI is a source for those. In neither case is there any reliance on a small spring to hold any part in place. Tim in central TX -----Original Message----- >From: Clif Dawson >Sent: Apr 14, 2010 3:26 AM >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Shoulder Harness on 41CC > > >And these; > >http://www.parts123.com/parts123/yb.dll?parta~partsort > >Clif. >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Catdesigns" >To: >Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 3:50 PM >Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Shoulder Harness on 41CC > > >> ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:19:39 AM PST US From: "Gene Rambo" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Shoulder Harness on 41CC I have not seen a photo of the belts in 41CC, but I have a pair of seat belts/harnesses that I bought from Joe Czaplicki that are still in the box. If they came from him, they might be the same. They are olive drab with olive anodized airline-style buckles. The end fittings for both the lap belt and the shoulder harness are the "clip-on style" shown in the link to the AS&S catalogue someone else posted. I'd love to sell these belts to someone who can use them. I think I gave Joe $35 each for them. I can try to post a photo later tonight if anyone is interested. Gene Rambo ----- Original Message ----- From: Isablcorky@aol.com To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 4:00 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Shoulder Harness on 41CC Dan, Contact Joe Czaplicki , fishin3@sbcglobal.net for information on the seat belts and harnesses on 41CC Corky http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:19:40 AM PST US From: Oscar Zuniga Subject: Pietenpol-List: wing washout Never one to argue with success, I went back to the Matronics archives and searched for posts from Mike Cuy on washout. From one of his posts: >I had two IA's that couldn't have stressed proper >rigging to me more and in reading the Tony B. books >on this he too couldn't stress proper rigging enough. >Bill Klosz (WWII vet who flew B-24's and IA) helped me >rig with his digital angle finder level to make sure >everything was right including washout of about 3/8" at >the third rib in from the wing tip ala J-3's and such. >I'm glad those guys hounded me thru the rigging--it paid off. Go thou and do likewise ;o) Oscar Zuniga Air Camper NX41CC San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 06:21:56 AM PST US From: Jeff Boatright Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Shoulder Harness on 41CC What do you guys think about Bill Rewey's solution? See at http://westcoastpiet.com/new_page_3.htm ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 08:01:41 AM PST US From: AMsafetyC@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Shoulder Harness on 41CC Gene, I need to visit your shop and check out those seat belts, oh look its Wayne Newton! Gonna markle me a set of seat belts John In a message dated 4/14/2010 9:19:54 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, generambo@msn.com writes: I have not seen a photo of the belts in 41CC, but I have a pair of seat be lts/harnesses that I bought from Joe Czaplicki that are still in the box. If they came from him, they might be the same. They are olive drab with olive anodized airline-style buckles. The end fittings for both the lap belt and the shoulder harness are the "clip-on style" shown in the link to the AS&S catalogue someone else posted. I'd love to sell these belts to someone who can use them. I think I gave Joe $35 each for them. I can try to post a photo later tonight if anyone is interested. Gene Rambo ----- Original Message ----- From: _Isablcorky@aol.com_ (mailto:Isablcorky@aol.com) Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 4:00 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Shoulder Harness on 41CC Dan, Contact Joe Czaplicki , _fishin3@sbcglobal.net_ (mailto:fishin3@sbcglobal.net) for information on the seat belts and harnesses on 41CC Corky title=http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pie tenpol-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c (http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List) (http://www.matronics.com/contribution) ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 08:47:49 AM PST US From: Tim Willis Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Shoulder Harness on 41CC-- Bill Rewey Solution Those appear to be the "emergency chain links" I was describing in my post on this subject. While I have seen Bill Rewey's plane, and had noted his cross-cable, I had forgotten his links. Thus, no invention here, proving again that it's hard to out-think Bill Rewey, or for that matter, Corky or Oscar. Here is a link to such links: http://www1.mscdirect.com/Links/Chain-Hardware/Chain,-Cable,-Rope-&-Hardware/s0002008712.HTML?KNC-T7L391316886&cm_mmc=Didit-_-SEM-_-ItmDtl-_-PypClk Tim in central TX -----Original Message----- >From: Jeff Boatright >Sent: Apr 14, 2010 8:20 AM >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Shoulder Harness on 41CC > > >What do you guys think about Bill Rewey's solution? See at >http://westcoastpiet.com/new_page_3.htm > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 10:02:00 AM PST US From: Oscar Zuniga Subject: Pietenpol-List: off topic: new words in the vernacular Well, well. In my lifetime I've seen some interesting changes in word usage and creation, but it seems like lately new words are being created almost every week. The one I really liked, from a few years ago, was the word "plutoed". When scientists changed their mind about Pluto being an actual planet in our solar system, with the stroke of a pen they "plutoed" Pluto and the word caught some popular fancy as referring to having your rank stripped or being tossed out in the cold. So today another word has been created, right here on the Piet list: "Markled". As in lifted, pilfered, or "reassigned to a new hangar" (mine instead of yours ;o). I like it. Just ask my hangar-mate Randy Stout... I've markled his tools for years now, claiming that I can't tell the difference between his Craftsman sockets and combination wrenches and mine so I sometimes end up with his stuff in my toolbox. Never the other way around, though. He hasn't learned how to markle yet, I guess... do not archive Oscar Zuniga Air Camper NX41CC San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 11:23:25 AM PST US From: AMsafetyC@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: off topic: new words in the vernacular Its is official now today, and according to Oscar, April 14, 2010 is officially and universally accepted as "A day that will live in infamy" Go forth and Markle, the sermon is ended. Thanks be to Oscar! John In a message dated 4/14/2010 1:02:28 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, taildrags@hotmail.com writes: --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Oscar Zuniga Well, well. In my lifetime I've seen some interesting changes in word usage and creation, but it seems like lately new words are being created almost every week. The one I really liked, from a few years ago, was the word "plutoed". When scientists changed their mind about Pluto being an actual planet in our solar system, with the stroke of a pen they "plutoed" Pluto and the word caught some popular fancy as referring to having your rank stripped or being tossed out in the cold. So today another word has been created, right here on the Piet list: "Markled". As in lifted, pilfered, or "reassigned to a new hangar" (mine instead of yours ;o). I like it. Just ask my hangar-mate Randy Stout... I've markled his tools for years now, claiming that I can't tell the difference between his Craftsman sockets and combination wrenches and mine so I sometimes end up with his stuff in my toolbox. Never the other way around, though. He hasn't learned how to markle yet, I guess... do not archive Oscar Zuniga Air Camper NX41CC San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 11:52:27 AM PST US From: "TOM STINEMETZE" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: off topic: new words in the vernacular Oscar and company: You guys have me shakin' in my boots with all this talk about "markleing." You know that I just purchased Ryan Mueller's Corvair project. Well, the Marvelous Mr. Markle (M)3 has offered, out of the boundless generosity of his heart, to transport the project all the way from Chicago to McPherson, KS. for me. For Free yet! So now you have me thinking that the marzel vanes are all going to be missing from the turbo encabulator when it gets here. WHAT AM I TO DO? You know that we all got together just a short while ago to help Jim out of a tight spot he was in and we got all girlish and sappy about it too. Where is all that good will now that we would beat up on our good friend and compatriot with such vitriolic verisimilitude ( http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=GMS&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&ei=1QXGS_usF4P88AbPhODADw&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&ved=0CA4QBSgA&q=verisimilitude&spell=1 ) ? (Verisimilitudeor truthlikenessis the problem of articulating what it takes for one false theory to be closer to the truth than another false theory.) I am now so upset that I need to go out and markle me a soda. do not archive Stinemetze N328X ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 12:01:38 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: off topic: new words in the vernacular From: Ryan Mueller Tom, I wouldn't worry too much....it's such a pain to get the marzel vanes out that I'm sure they will be there when the turbo encabulator arrives. Now th e panametric fam on the other hand..... do not archive On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 1:21 PM, TOM STINEMETZE wrote: > *Oscar and company:* > ** > *You guys have me shakin' in my boots with all this talk about > "markleing." You know that I just purchased Ryan Mueller's Corvair > project. Well, the Marvelous Mr. Markle (M)3 has offered, out of the > boundless generosity of his heart, to transport the project all the way f rom > Chicago to McPherson, KS. for me. For Free yet! So now you have me > thinking that the marzel vanes are all going to be missing from the turbo > encabulator when it gets here. WHAT AM I TO DO?* > ** > *You know that we all got together just a short while ago to help Jim out > of a tight spot he was in and we got all girlish and sappy about it too. > Where is all that good will now that we would beat up on our good friend and > compatriot with such vitriolic **verisimilitude* > *? (Verisimilitude*=97or *truthlikeness*=97is the problem of articulati ng > what it takes for one false theory to be closer to the truth than another > false theory.)* in there somehow.>* > ** > *I am now so upset that I need to go out and markle me a soda.* > ** > *do not archive* > ** > *Stinemetze* > *N328X* > > * > =========== =========== =========== =========== > * > > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 12:09:20 PM PST US From: Jim Markle Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: off topic: new words in the vernacular My parents will be SO proud! :-) -----Original Message----- From: AMsafetyC@aol.com Sent: Apr 14, 2010 12:14 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: off topic: new words in the vernacular Its is official now today, and according to Oscar, April 14, 2010 is officially and universally accepted as "A day that will live in infamy" Go forth and Markle, the sermon is ended. Thanks be to Oscar! John In a message dated 4/14/2010 1:02:28 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, taildrags@hotmail.com writes: --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Oscar Zuniga Well, well. In my lifetime I've seen some interesting changes in word usage and creation, but it seems like lately new words are being created almost every week. The one I really liked, from a few years ago, was the word "plutoed". When scientists changed their mind about Pluto being an actual planet in our solar system, with the stroke of a pen they "plutoed" Pluto and the word caught some popular fancy as referring to having your rank stripped or being tossed out in the cold. So today another word has been created, right here on the Piet list: "Markled". As in lifted, pilfered, or "reassigned to a new hangar" (mine instead of yours ;o). I like it. Just ask my hangar-mate Randy Stout... I've markled his tools for years now, claiming that I can't tell the difference between his Craftsman sockets and combination wrenches and mine so I sometimes end up with his stuff in my toolbox. Never the other way around, though. He hasn't learned how to markle yet, I guess... do not archive Oscar Zuniga Air Camper NX41CC San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net ======================== Use the ties Day ================================================ - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS ================================================ - List Contribution Web Site sp; ================================================== ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 12:23:52 PM PST US From: "TOM STINEMETZE" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: off topic: new words in the vernacular Jim: As it has been said many times before, the only purpose for that panametric fan is to keep the pilot cool. Just watch him start to sweat when it stops. Stinemetze N328X do not archive >>> Ryan Mueller 4/14/2010 2:00 PM >>> Tom, I wouldn't worry too much....it's such a pain to get the marzel vanes out that I'm sure they will be there when the turbo encabulator arrives. Now the panametric fam on the other hand..... do not archive ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 12:49:39 PM PST US From: Dan Yocum Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Shoulder Harness on 41CC Tim, You and I were on the same wavelength at about the same time, this morning. Probably because I was playing "hookie" today to go flying. The one thing that I noticed about the cross-wires on 8031 is that the point where they cross is very close to the fuselage - maybe an inch off the fuselage. Which gets me to thinking, why do the whole U-bolt thing at all? Why not just use a carabiner or locking chain link placed around the cross-brace wires? As Oscar points out, he removes the front shoulder harnesses when he's flying solo, anyway. Dan On 04/14/2010 08:04 AM, Tim Willis wrote: > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Tim Willis > > That link would not open for me. > > I intend to copy Corky/Oscar's use of the cross-cables and a U-bolt to hook into. However, I will link a regular shoulder harness triangular endpiece with bolthole to the eyebolt by using an "emergency chain link." They may be bought at Home Depot or Tractor Supply. They are very strong and when tightened up should be very reliable. Another alternative is a real climbing carabiner of a similar threaded design. REI is a source for those. In neither case is there any reliance on a small spring to hold any part in place. > Tim in central TX -- Dan Yocum Fermilab 630.840.6509 yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things." ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 12:49:53 PM PST US From: brian.e.jardine@l-3com.com Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: off topic: new words in the vernacular Well group... I can now say I have met the man himself...."The Markle-man". It was a pleasure to spend a couple of hours with Jim last night talking planes, hangars, and "Practice wives" over a greasy burger and fries...doesn't get much better than that! Any time you come to the mountain west Jim stop on by!! Brian SLC-UT -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Oscar Zuniga Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 10:45 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: off topic: new words in the vernacular Well, well. In my lifetime I've seen some interesting changes in word usage and creation, but it seems like lately new words are being created almost every week. The one I really liked, from a few years ago, was the word "plutoed". When scientists changed their mind about Pluto being an actual planet in our solar system, with the stroke of a pen they "plutoed" Pluto and the word caught some popular fancy as referring to having your rank stripped or being tossed out in the cold. So today another word has been created, right here on the Piet list: "Markled". As in lifted, pilfered, or "reassigned to a new hangar" (mine instead of yours ;o). I like it. Just ask my hangar-mate Randy Stout... I've markled his tools for years now, claiming that I can't tell the difference between his Craftsman sockets and combination wrenches and mine so I sometimes end up with his stuff in my toolbox. Never the other way around, though. He hasn't learned how to markle yet, I guess... do not archive Oscar Zuniga Air Camper NX41CC San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 01:00:21 PM PST US From: Jim Markle Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: off topic: new words in the vernacular It was MY pleasure except...seeing your hangar/man quarters.....wow. I am coveting my friend's possessions!! I just saw some kind of tail dragger (Cessna 120 maybe?) on final approach for your airpark. What a neat sight. thank you Brian! -----Original Message----- >From: brian.e.jardine@l-3com.com >Sent: Apr 14, 2010 3:49 PM >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: off topic: new words in the vernacular > > >Well group... I can now say I have met the man himself...."The >Markle-man". It was a pleasure to spend a couple of hours with Jim last >night talking planes, hangars, and "Practice wives" over a greasy burger >and fries...doesn't get much better than that! Any time you come to the >mountain west Jim stop on by!! > >Brian >SLC-UT > > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com >[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Oscar >Zuniga >Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 10:45 AM >To: Pietenpol List >Subject: Pietenpol-List: off topic: new words in the vernacular > > > > >Well, well. In my lifetime I've seen some interesting >changes in word usage and creation, but it seems like >lately new words are being created almost every week. >The one I really liked, from a few years ago, was the >word "plutoed". When scientists changed their mind >about Pluto being an actual planet in our solar system, >with the stroke of a pen they "plutoed" Pluto and the >word caught some popular fancy as referring to having >your rank stripped or being tossed out in the cold. > >So today another word has been created, right here on >the Piet list: "Markled". As in lifted, pilfered, or >"reassigned to a new hangar" (mine instead of yours ;o). >I like it. Just ask my hangar-mate Randy Stout... >I've markled his tools for years now, claiming that >I can't tell the difference between his Craftsman >sockets and combination wrenches and mine so I sometimes >end up with his stuff in my toolbox. Never the other >way around, though. He hasn't learned how to markle >yet, I guess... > >do not archive > >Oscar Zuniga >Air Camper NX41CC >San Antonio, TX >mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com >website at http://www.flysquirrel.net > > ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 01:03:51 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Mike Groah--your side door From: "womenfly2" Very nice job Guy's! I am very impressed with your work and how the door came out on all your Piet's. "Keep the Dream," Keri-Ann keriannprice@hotmail.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=294225#294225 ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 01:17:30 PM PST US From: H RULE Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: off topic: new words in the vernacular That soda would be marklicious=0A=0A=C2-do not archive=0A=0A=0A__________ ______________________=0AFrom: TOM STINEMETZE =0ATo: Piet enpol List =0ASent: Wed, April 14, 2010 2:21: 21 PM=0ASubject: Re: Pietenpol-List: off topic: new words in the vernacular =0A=0A=0AOscar and company:=0A=C2-=0AYou guys have me shakin' in my boots with all this talk about "markleing."=C2- You know that I just purchased Ryan Mueller's Corvair project.=C2- Well,=C2-the Marvelous Mr. =C2-M arkle (M)3 has offered, out of the boundless generosity of his heart, to tr ansport the project all the way from Chicago to McPherson, KS. for me.=C2 - For Free yet!=C2- So now you have me thinking that the marzel vanes a re all going to be missing from the turbo encabulator when it gets here.=C2 - WHAT AM I TO DO?=0A=C2-=0AYou know that we all got together just a sh ort while ago to help Jim out of a tight spot he was in and we got all girl ish and sappy about it too.=C2- Where is all that good will now that we w ould beat up on our good friend and compatriot with such vitriolic verisimi litude=C2-?=C2- (Verisimilitude=94or truthlikeness=94is the problem of articulating what it takes for one false theory to be closer to the truth than another false theory.)=C2- =0A=C2-=0AI am now so upset that I need to go out and markle me a soda.=0A=C2-=0Ado not archive=0A=C2 ==================== ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 01:33:35 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: off topic: new words in the vernacular From: "John Recine" And so they should its not everyday that such a noble honor can bestowed or conveyed such a noteworthy and deserving individual. All Hail the Markle I can't wait to march in the Markle day parade. I just hope no one markles the float in honor of the occasion John Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: Jim Markle Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: off topic: new words in the vernacular My parents will be SO proud! :-) -----Original Message----- From: AMsafetyC@aol.com Sent: Apr 14, 2010 12:14 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: off topic: new words in the vernacular Its is official now today, and according to Oscar, April 14, 2010 is officially and universally accepted as "A day that will live in infamy" Go forth and Markle, the sermon is ended. Thanks be to Oscar! John In a message dated 4/14/2010 1:02:28 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, taildrags@hotmail.com writes: --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Oscar Zuniga Well, well. In my lifetime I've seen some interesting changes in word usage and creation, but it seems like lately new words are being created almost every week. The one I really liked, from a few years ago, was the word "plutoed". When scientists changed their mind about Pluto being an actual planet in our solar system, with the stroke of a pen they "plutoed" Pluto and the word caught some popular fancy as referring to having your rank stripped or being tossed out in the cold. So today another word has been created, right here on the Piet list: "Markled". As in lifted, pilfered, or "reassigned to a new hangar" (mine instead of yours ;o). I like it. Just ask my hangar-mate Randy Stout... I've markled his tools for years now, claiming that I can't tell the difference between his Craftsman sockets and combination wrenches and mine so I sometimes end up with his stuff in my toolbox. Never the other way around, though. He hasn't learned how to markle yet, I guess... do not archive Oscar Zuniga Air Camper NX41CC San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net ======================== Use the ties Day ================================================ - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS ================================================ - List Contribution Web Site sp; ================================================== ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 05:08:49 PM PST US From: Tim Willis Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Shoulder Harness on 41CC Dan, Maybe just looping a carabiner or link might introduce CHAFING as an issue, breaking cable strands or wearing them, over time. I think Oscar's implementation works around that. I could not find a picture, though I must have one somewhere. I will describe it. Oscar has two pieces of hardwood (oak?) that make up a "sandwich" more or less the size of: -- a small hockey puck (for northerners); -- a small Moon Pie (for southerners) -- a very small cow pie (for WI, VT, TX, IA, others). The two halves of the puck/pie have matching "X's" sawn into them, so that between them, they encapsulate the cross-cables. Then the eyebolt goes fore-to-aft, bolting the sandwich halves together and creating the attachment point. Pretty slick. Oscar has added a notch for a "V" sight, to improve sighting on John Deeres, RVs and other hostile machinery. Of course, Bill Rewey's extra cable works well, too. It looks heavier gauge than the X-cables, and with some protection on it. You can inspect it and replace it without messing with any other rigging, etc. And you can take the whole thing down if you are flying solo. But then you lose the advantage of Oscar's sight picture, too. Tim in central TX -----Original Message----- >From: Dan Yocum >Sent: Apr 14, 2010 2:49 PM >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Shoulder Harness on 41CC > > >Tim, > >You and I were on the same wavelength at about the same time, this >morning. Probably because I was playing "hookie" today to go flying. > >The one thing that I noticed about the cross-wires on 8031 is that the >point where they cross is very close to the fuselage - maybe an inch off >the fuselage. Which gets me to thinking, why do the whole U-bolt thing >at all? Why not just use a carabiner or locking chain link placed >around the cross-brace wires? As Oscar points out, he removes the front >shoulder harnesses when he's flying solo, anyway. > >Dan > >On 04/14/2010 08:04 AM, Tim Willis wrote: >> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Tim Willis >> >> That link would not open for me. >> >> I intend to copy Corky/Oscar's use of the cross-cables and a U-bolt to hook into. However, I will link a regular shoulder harness triangular endpiece with bolthole to the eyebolt by using an "emergency chain link." They may be bought at Home Depot or Tractor Supply. They are very strong and when tightened up should be very reliable. Another alternative is a real climbing carabiner of a similar threaded design. REI is a source for those. In neither case is there any reliance on a small spring to hold any part in place. >> Tim in central TX > > >-- >Dan Yocum >Fermilab 630.840.6509 >yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov >"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things." > > ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 07:43:49 PM PST US From: "Clif Dawson" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Shoulder Harness on 41CC Here's the homepage. http://www.crowenterprizes.com/ With these people you can buy a 3" seat belt and add a 2" shoulder harness if you so wish. Also mix and match the end link styles. Clif > Clif, > > Linkee no workee. > > BC ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message pietenpol-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pietenpol-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/pietenpol-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.