---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 04/18/10: 41 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:49 AM - Re: I finally bought the plans! ha exelent! (jorge lizarraga) 2. 05:32 AM - Re: I finally bought the plans! (Dan Yocum) 3. 05:44 AM - Re: I finally bought the plans! (Ryan Mueller) 4. 06:01 AM - Re: Re: Nice flight, not such a good ending! (airlion) 5. 06:08 AM - Re: Re: Nice flight, not such a good ending! (Jeff Boatright) 6. 06:08 AM - Re: I finally bought the plans! (Jeff Boatright) 7. 06:44 AM - Re: I finally bought the plans! (Gary Boothe) 8. 07:38 AM - Re: Re: Another newbie! (John Recine) 9. 07:53 AM - Parts to go (John Recine) 10. 08:39 AM - Re: NASA woes (Michael Perez) 11. 08:59 AM - Re: Parts to go (Michael Perez) 12. 09:45 AM - Re: Another newbie! (echobravo4) 13. 10:51 AM - Wing flop (Chris) 14. 11:00 AM - Re: I finally bought the plans! (Ryan Mueller) 15. 11:31 AM - Re: too windy to fly so I'll fix (Dan Yocum) 16. 01:08 PM - Re: I finally bought the plans! (Gary Boothe) 17. 03:24 PM - Re: Wing flop (gcardinal) 18. 03:42 PM - Re: Wing flop (Lloyd Smith) 19. 04:07 PM - Re: I finally bought the plans! (Ryan Mueller) 20. 04:09 PM - Re: I finally bought the plans! (AMsafetyC@aol.com) 21. 04:17 PM - Ryan's Piet (Gary Boothe) 22. 04:18 PM - Ryan's Piet (Gary Boothe) 23. 04:23 PM - Re: Wing flop (skellytown flyer) 24. 04:39 PM - Re: Ryan's Piet (Ryan Mueller) 25. 04:48 PM - Re: Ryan's Piet (Gary Boothe) 26. 05:03 PM - Re: too windy to fly so I'll fix (shad bell) 27. 05:12 PM - Re: Parts to go (shad bell) 28. 05:18 PM - Re: Ryan's Piet ok (jorge lizarraga) 29. 05:23 PM - Re: Ohio piet fly-in, food (shad bell) 30. 05:38 PM - Re: Ryan's Piet ok (Gary Boothe) 31. 06:23 PM - Re: Parts to go (AMsafetyC@aol.com) 32. 07:04 PM - Re: Ryan's Piet (Tim Willis) 33. 07:37 PM - Re: Ryan's Piet (Jim Markle) 34. 07:46 PM - Re: Ryan's Piet (Jim Markle) 35. 08:05 PM - Re: Wing flop (Pieti Lowell) 36. 08:10 PM - Re: Re: Wing flop (Clif Dawson) 37. 08:46 PM - Re: Re: Wing flop (Rick Holland) 38. 08:46 PM - Re: Ryan's Piet (Gary Boothe) 39. 09:06 PM - Re: Re: Wing flop (Lloyd Smith) 40. 09:17 PM - Re: Another newbie! (Rick Holland) 41. 09:37 PM - Re: Ryan's Piet (Jim) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:49:41 AM PST US From: jorge lizarraga Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: I finally bought the plans! ha exelent! con grat. these is bery good stared no worry about have a bounch of money i n ones yust if you jave a few like 20 bay 20 in material and when you have a 50 buy 50 in material before you now you have a fuselaje finished you see i hope hear about you stera proyect and show you pictured welcome to piete npol famylie. jorge from hanford. --- On Sat, 4/17/10, schuerrman wrote: From: schuerrman Subject: Pietenpol-List: I finally bought the plans! Hello, I've been lurking for a couple of years, reading the recommended literature , and ogling the pictures on the net.- I finally bought the plans yesterd ay.- Checked the mail today, just to practice.- It's going to be corvai r powered. I figured that I'll never have enough money or time anyways, so why not get started. Steve Schuerr McHenry, IL Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=294564#294564 le, List Admin. =0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:32:44 AM PST US From: Dan Yocum Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: I finally bought the plans! Hi Steve, I keep my Piet just down the road from you at Olson Airport, LL53, on Rt. 47, about a mile north of Burlington Road. Dan On 04/17/2010 02:57 PM, schuerrman wrote: > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "schuerrman" > > Hello, > > I've been lurking for a couple of years, reading the recommended literature, and ogling the pictures on the net. I finally bought the plans yesterday. Checked the mail today, just to practice. It's going to be corvair powered. > > I figured that I'll never have enough money or time anyways, so why not get started. > > Steve Schuerr > McHenry, IL > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=294564#294564 > > -- Dan Yocum Fermilab 630.840.6509 yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things." ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:44:29 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: I finally bought the plans! From: Ryan Mueller And there will be a second Piet at Olson right after Brodhead at the end of July. ;) Ryan do not archive On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 7:31 AM, Dan Yocum wrote: > > Hi Steve, > > I keep my Piet just down the road from you at Olson Airport, LL53, on Rt. > 47, about a mile north of Burlington Road. > > Dan > > > On 04/17/2010 02:57 PM, schuerrman wrote: > >> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "schuerrman" >> >> Hello, >> >> I've been lurking for a couple of years, reading the recommended >> literature, and ogling the pictures on the net. I finally bought the plans >> yesterday. Checked the mail today, just to practice. It's going to be >> corvair powered. >> >> I figured that I'll never have enough money or time anyways, so why not >> get started. >> >> Steve Schuerr >> McHenry, IL >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=294564#294564 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > -- > Dan Yocum > Fermilab 630.840.6509 > yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov > "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things." > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:01:52 AM PST US From: airlion Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Nice flight, not such a good ending! Jeff, I think you just planted that rock so you could take a picture to show what a good bombing run you could make. Ha Ha Ha. Gardiner ----- Original Message ---- From: coxwelljon Sent: Sun, April 18, 2010 12:02:48 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Nice flight, not such a good ending! Jeff, That is a cool video. Glad you didn't have any more damage. Just wondered why you happened to have the camera there to catch it. It is interesting to watch the action of the tail wheel. I am building something similar for my GN-1 and this gives me some idea of what kind of stress it goes through. I might give some thought to my wheel attachment. Thanks for sharing. Jon Coxwell -------- Jon Coxwell GN-1 Builder Recycle and preserve the planet Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=294617#294617 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:08:04 AM PST US From: Jeff Boatright Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Nice flight, not such a good ending! Short answer: dumb luck. Long story: I had been meaning to film with a camera pointing forward and rearward for some time. We had a particularly pretty sunset that evening, so I attached both cameras. The YouTube video is only 2 mins from a 40 min taping, and of course, none from the forward facing camera. > > >Jeff, > >That is a cool video. Glad you didn't have any more damage. Just >wondered why you happened to have the camera there to catch it. > >It is interesting to watch the action of the tail wheel. I am >building something similar for my GN-1 and this gives me some idea >of what kind of stress it goes through. I might give some thought >to my wheel attachment. > >Thanks for sharing. > >Jon Coxwell > >-------- >Jon Coxwell >GN-1 Builder >Recycle and preserve the planet > -- Jeff Boatright "Now let's think about this..." ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:08:03 AM PST US From: Jeff Boatright Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: I finally bought the plans! Which one did you buy? >And there will be a second Piet at Olson right after Brodhead at the >end of July. ;) > >Ryan > -- Jeff Boatright "Now let's think about this..." ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 06:44:02 AM PST US From: "Gary Boothe" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: I finally bought the plans! The suspense is killing me.. Gary Boothe Cool, CA Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion Tail done, Fuselage on gear 18 ribs done From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Mueller Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 5:44 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: I finally bought the plans! And there will be a second Piet at Olson right after Brodhead at the end of July. ;) Ryan do not archive On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 7:31 AM, Dan Yocum wrote: Hi Steve, I keep my Piet just down the road from you at Olson Airport, LL53, on Rt. 47, about a mile north of Burlington Road. Dan On 04/17/2010 02:57 PM, schuerrman wrote: --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "schuerrman" Hello, I've been lurking for a couple of years, reading the recommended literature, and ogling the pictures on the net. I finally bought the plans yesterday. Checked the mail today, just to practice. It's going to be corvair powered. I figured that I'll never have enough money or time anyways, so why not get started. Steve Schuerr McHenry, IL Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=294564#294564 -- Dan Yocum Fermilab 630.840.6509 yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things." ========== st" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List ========== http://forums.matronics.com ========== le, List Admin. ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution ========== ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 07:38:24 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Another newbie! From: "John Recine" Perfect, I pass it twice a day when I am in town on the tp and a quick trip on rt 100 or the PA Tp and you're in Lancaster. Doesn't sound hard for either of us to get together. We'll have to make some time for the obligatory pizza and beer meeting. John Piece a cake Ezraha! ------Original Message------ From: echobravo4 Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com ReplyTo: Pietenpol builders Board Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Another newbie! Sent: Apr 17, 2010 11:12 PM Nice! i just watched that (AGAIN!) last week! I'm in Downingtown -------- I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I intended to be. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=294613#294613 Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 07:53:56 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Parts to go From: "John Recine" Had a good day yesterday, almost like Christmas. Got my grand son packed up for a road trip to Bloomsberg pa. I have been wanting to take that ride for some time now. Columbia aviation FAA service station, got a chance to pick up all my genuine inspected yellow tagged ready to be assembled lycoming 0235 C1B 108 hp engine parts. I can't wait to start the building process on that bad boy. Everything clean shiny painted and looking brand new. So is the life of a "batch builder" another my phrase. I save up a batch of money buy a batch of material and parts and build till the batch gets used up then I do it all over again. Just spent a batch O bucks so its back to saving and building. Not unless I get a chance to do a bit O Marlkin along the way. Yup did some of that last week while traveling last week. John Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 08:39:34 AM PST US From: Michael Perez Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: NASA woes Very cool Mike! I actually pondered a NASA/space paint scheme as well early on in my build. Nice skins. - ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 08:59:19 AM PST US From: Michael Perez Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Parts to go John, I just did the same thing....batch buy. Since we accumulated a good l ot of points on our credit card, I cashed them in on Pietenpol parts. Turnb uckle parts, cables, struts, instruments...it all came last week. Good time s for sure! - ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 09:45:27 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Another newbie! From: "echobravo4" sounds good- how far along is yours? i would love to see one thats more than just paper right now! -------- I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I intended to be. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=294681#294681 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 10:51:06 AM PST US From: "Chris" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Wing flop I am installing a flop in the center of my wing and want to know if making it the same width (12" cord) as the aileron is a good idea or should it be wider? Basically it would be built like the a 3rd aileron just shorter in length, about 24 inches long. Speaking of length, should it exstend beyond the center section lendth? Chris Sacramento,Ca Westcoastpiet.com ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 11:00:21 AM PST US From: Ryan Mueller Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: I finally bought the plans! We're buying Gene's Piet (Gene from Tennessee), N502R! Ryan Sent from my iPhone On Apr 18, 2010, at 8:07 AM, Jeff Boatright wrote: > > > > Which one did you buy? > >> And there will be a second Piet at Olson right after Brodhead at >> the end of July. ;) >> >> Ryan >> > > > -- > > Jeff Boatright > "Now let's think about this..." > > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 11:31:55 AM PST US From: Dan Yocum Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: too windy to fly so I'll fix Shad, I could just wander into the living room and look in the Bingelis books, but what's the fun in that? Fabric patching sounds like one of those magical arts that is best acquired by watching, then doing, under the tutelage of an expert. Lacking said expert, do you recommend a good book or article that outlines the procedure to get a high quality, can't-tell-if-no-one-told-me-it-was-there result? I'll be starting with the dread Sherwin Williams paint which I understand is easily removed with either some strong duct tape or MEK... Thanks, Dan On 04/17/2010 07:03 PM, shad bell wrote: > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: shad bell > > Well it's been lousy flying weather the past couple days so at least I am not missing out on that. Still making progress (slowly) on the annual, repairs on the piet. Too cold to paint today so I did about 30 min of wet sanding and obsessing over the wing patches. Dad brought over the new bungees so we can get those replaced. Just 6-7 more coats of paint on the fabric repairs with a bunch of wetsanding every 2 coats or so, a test run of the engine to check for leaks, and put the lower tail brace wire fitting back on ($$$$POR-15 paint, didn't adheare well) after a couple coats of spray bomb, and then see if I can still fly a pietenpol. By the way, did any of you make it to Grimes Field to see the B-25's? I went over on thurs. and only 5 of the 20 expected had made it by then. The Doolittle Radier's Reunion was sceduled to be at Wright Patterson Airforce Base today, hope it went well. > > Shad > > -- Dan Yocum Fermilab 630.840.6509 yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things." ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 01:08:35 PM PST US From: "Gary Boothe" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: I finally bought the plans! Congratulations, Ryan & Jess! I'll smoke a cigar for you.... Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion, mounted Tail done, Fuselage on gear (18 ribs down.) -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Mueller Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 10:55 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: I finally bought the plans! We're buying Gene's Piet (Gene from Tennessee), N502R! Ryan Sent from my iPhone On Apr 18, 2010, at 8:07 AM, Jeff Boatright wrote: > > > > Which one did you buy? > >> And there will be a second Piet at Olson right after Brodhead at >> the end of July. ;) >> >> Ryan >> > > > -- > > Jeff Boatright > "Now let's think about this..." > > ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 03:24:29 PM PST US From: "gcardinal" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wing flop Chris, Making the flop the same width as the aileron is good. Extending the flop to the left is a good idea with the one piece wing. It is a bit more complicated with the three piece wing. Greg Cardinal ----- Original Message ----- From: Chris To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 12:50 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Wing flop I am installing a flop in the center of my wing and want to know if making it the same width (12" cord) as the aileron is a good idea or should it be wider? Basically it would be built like the a 3rd aileron just shorter in length, about 24 inches long. Speaking of length, should it exstend beyond the center section lendth? Chris Sacramento,Ca Westcoastpiet.com ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 03:42:45 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wing flop From: Lloyd Smith In light of the recent mishap w/ Douwe's Piet, how well would the pilot fair in a noseover with the flop in place? Would it hinder egress during an emergency if the airplane were on it's back? I'm also thinking of the RV that flipped at Brodhead this past summer. That large canopy wouldn't open while the airplane was on it's back if I recall. On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 6:27 PM, gcardinal wrote: > Chris, > > Making the flop the same width as the aileron is good. Extending the flop > to the left is a good idea with the one piece wing. It is a bit more > complicated with the three piece wing. > > Greg Cardinal > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Chris > *To:* pietenpol-list@matronics.com > *Sent:* Sunday, April 18, 2010 12:50 PM > *Subject:* Pietenpol-List: Wing flop > > I am installing a flop in the center of my wing and want to know if making > it the same width (12" cord) as the aileron is a good idea or should it be > wider? Basically it would be built like the a 3rd aileron just shorter in > length, about 24 inches long. Speaking of length, should it exstend beyond > the center section lendth? > > Chris > Sacramento,Ca > Westcoastpiet.com > > * > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c* > > * > > * > > -- "There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -- PJ O'Rourke ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 04:07:20 PM PST US From: Ryan Mueller Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: I finally bought the plans! Enjoy. Thanks Gary! I don't recall, are you going to be able to make it to Brodhead this year? Ryan Do not archive Sent from my iPad On Apr 18, 2010, at 3:06 PM, "Gary Boothe" wrote: > > Congratulations, Ryan & Jess! I'll smoke a cigar for you.... > > Gary Boothe > Cool, Ca. > Pietenpol > WW Corvair Conversion, mounted > Tail done, Fuselage on gear > (18 ribs down.) > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Mueller > Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 10:55 AM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: I finally bought the plans! > > > We're buying Gene's Piet (Gene from Tennessee), N502R! > > Ryan > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Apr 18, 2010, at 8:07 AM, Jeff Boatright wrote: > >>> >> >> Which one did you buy? >> >>> And there will be a second Piet at Olson right after Brodhead at >>> the end of July. ;) >>> >>> Ryan >>> >> >> >> -- >> >> Jeff Boatright >> "Now let's think about this..." >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 04:09:30 PM PST US From: AMsafetyC@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: I finally bought the plans! Da kat is out da bag now! In a message dated 4/18/2010 7:08:19 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, rmueller23@gmail.com writes: --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Ryan Mueller Enjoy. Thanks Gary! I don't recall, are you going to be able to make it to Brodhead this year? Ryan Do not archive Sent from my iPad On Apr 18, 2010, at 3:06 PM, "Gary Boothe" wrote: > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Gary Boothe" > > Congratulations, Ryan & Jess! I'll smoke a cigar for you.... > > Gary Boothe > Cool, Ca. > Pietenpol > WW Corvair Conversion, mounted > Tail done, Fuselage on gear > (18 ribs down.) > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Mueller > Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 10:55 AM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: I finally bought the plans! > > > We're buying Gene's Piet (Gene from Tennessee), N502R! > > Ryan > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Apr 18, 2010, at 8:07 AM, Jeff Boatright wrote: > >> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Jeff Boatright >> >> >> Which one did you buy? >> >>> And there will be a second Piet at Olson right after Brodhead at >>> the end of July. ;) >>> >>> Ryan >>> >> >> >> -- >> >> Jeff Boatright >> "Now let's think about this..." >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 04:17:06 PM PST US From: "Gary Boothe" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Ryan's Piet Negative...got the obligatory in-law reunion...WooHoo!! Here's a pic of my panel progress.... I can't find a pic of Walt's Piet. Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion, mounted Tail done, Fuselage on gear (18 ribs down.) -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Mueller Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 4:06 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: I finally bought the plans! Enjoy. Thanks Gary! I don't recall, are you going to be able to make it to Brodhead this year? Ryan Do not archive Sent from my iPad On Apr 18, 2010, at 3:06 PM, "Gary Boothe" wrote: > > Congratulations, Ryan & Jess! I'll smoke a cigar for you.... > > Gary Boothe > Cool, Ca. > Pietenpol > WW Corvair Conversion, mounted > Tail done, Fuselage on gear > (18 ribs down.) > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Mueller > Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 10:55 AM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: I finally bought the plans! > > > We're buying Gene's Piet (Gene from Tennessee), N502R! > > Ryan > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Apr 18, 2010, at 8:07 AM, Jeff Boatright wrote: > >>> >> >> Which one did you buy? >> >>> And there will be a second Piet at Olson right after Brodhead at >>> the end of July. ;) >>> >>> Ryan >>> >> >> >> -- >> >> Jeff Boatright >> "Now let's think about this..." >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 04:18:40 PM PST US From: "Gary Boothe" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Ryan's Piet Ooops...I mean Gene's Piet... Negative...got the obligatory in-law reunion...WooHoo!! Here's a pic of my panel progress.... I can't find a pic of Walt's Piet. Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion, mounted Tail done, Fuselage on gear (18 ribs down.) -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Mueller Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 4:06 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: I finally bought the plans! Enjoy. Thanks Gary! I don't recall, are you going to be able to make it to Brodhead this year? Ryan Do not archive Sent from my iPad On Apr 18, 2010, at 3:06 PM, "Gary Boothe" wrote: > > Congratulations, Ryan & Jess! I'll smoke a cigar for you.... > > Gary Boothe > Cool, Ca. > Pietenpol > WW Corvair Conversion, mounted > Tail done, Fuselage on gear > (18 ribs down.) > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Mueller > Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 10:55 AM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: I finally bought the plans! > > > We're buying Gene's Piet (Gene from Tennessee), N502R! > > Ryan > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Apr 18, 2010, at 8:07 AM, Jeff Boatright wrote: > >>> >> >> Which one did you buy? >> >>> And there will be a second Piet at Olson right after Brodhead at >>> the end of July. ;) >>> >>> Ryan >>> >> >> >> -- >> >> Jeff Boatright >> "Now let's think about this..." >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 04:23:47 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing flop From: "skellytown flyer" i am about to figure out how to make mine work now.I have my wings rigged and am getting ready to make up the X-brace cables.-I kinda wonder why they are necessary with the X-brace rods in the wings to control drag. but anyway I'll use them since the plans call for them and they can carry part of the flight loads along with the struts. but my wing flop section is the same width as the center section. so that leaves about 2" gap on each side to hide.I'm guessing I'll end up making a gap cover to come back the the rear spar and then something separate that will be attached to the flop to close the gap but let it swing up with it.Raymond Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=294734#294734 ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 04:39:38 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Ryan's Piet From: Ryan Mueller Here's a pretty good view we snapped when we went to visit Gene and Tammy: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2314248/N502R/hires/IMG_1454.JPG Nice panel setup. Are you going to leave the metal coverplate as is, or maybe try your hand at engine turning? Good looking throttle quadrant too. Ryan On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 6:16 PM, Gary Boothe wrote: > Negative...got the obligatory in-law reunion...WooHoo!! > > Here's a pic of my panel progress.... > > I can't find a pic of Walt's Piet. > > Gary Boothe > Cool, Ca. > Pietenpol > WW Corvair Conversion, mounted > Tail done, Fuselage on gear > (18 ribs down.) > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ryan > Mueller > Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 4:06 PM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: I finally bought the plans! > > > Enjoy. Thanks Gary! I don't recall, are you going to be able to make it to > Brodhead this year? > > Ryan > > Do not archive > > Sent from my iPad > > > On Apr 18, 2010, at 3:06 PM, "Gary Boothe" wrote: > > gboothe5@comcast.net> > > > > Congratulations, Ryan & Jess! I'll smoke a cigar for you.... > > > > Gary Boothe > > Cool, Ca. > > Pietenpol > > WW Corvair Conversion, mounted > > Tail done, Fuselage on gear > > (18 ribs down.) > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ryan > Mueller > > Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 10:55 AM > > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: I finally bought the plans! > > > > > > > > We're buying Gene's Piet (Gene from Tennessee), N502R! > > > > Ryan > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > On Apr 18, 2010, at 8:07 AM, Jeff Boatright wrote: > > > >>> > >> > >> Which one did you buy? > >> > >>> And there will be a second Piet at Olson right after Brodhead at > >>> the end of July. ;) > >>> > >>> Ryan > >>> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> > >> Jeff Boatright > >> "Now let's think about this..." > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 04:48:37 PM PST US From: "Gary Boothe" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Ryan's Piet Nice looking plane! .looking forward to the pic with you guys in the air. I think I'll try leaving the aluminum polished, unless the glare becomes a problem. Gary _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Mueller Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 4:38 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Ryan's Piet Here's a pretty good view we snapped when we went to visit Gene and Tammy: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2314248/N502R/hires/IMG_1454.JPG Nice panel setup. Are you going to leave the metal coverplate as is, or maybe try your hand at engine turning? Good looking throttle quadrant too. Ryan On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 6:16 PM, Gary Boothe wrote: Negative...got the obligatory in-law reunion...WooHoo!! Here's a pic of my panel progress.... I can't find a pic of Walt's Piet. Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion, mounted Tail done, Fuselage on gear (18 ribs down.) -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Mueller Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 4:06 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: I finally bought the plans! Enjoy. Thanks Gary! I don't recall, are you going to be able to make it to Brodhead this year? Ryan Do not archive Sent from my iPad On Apr 18, 2010, at 3:06 PM, "Gary Boothe" wrote: > > Congratulations, Ryan & Jess! I'll smoke a cigar for you.... > > Gary Boothe > Cool, Ca. > Pietenpol > WW Corvair Conversion, mounted > Tail done, Fuselage on gear > (18 ribs down.) > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Mueller > Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 10:55 AM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: I finally bought the plans! > > > We're buying Gene's Piet (Gene from Tennessee), N502R! > > Ryan > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Apr 18, 2010, at 8:07 AM, Jeff Boatright wrote: > >>> >> >> Which one did you buy? >> >>> And there will be a second Piet at Olson right after Brodhead at >>> the end of July. ;) >>> >>> Ryan >>> >> >> >> -- >> >> Jeff Boatright >> "Now let's think about this..." >> >> >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 05:03:07 PM PST US From: shad bell Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: too windy to fly so I'll fix I seem to be the guy that has to learn the hard way, by doing. Learn from my failures, and triumphs. Taking off the paint is easy with the latex, soak a rag in mek, hold it on the paint to let it penetrate, then lightly scrape the paint away, it peels off fairly clean. I use a plastic scraper. The tougher, or more labor intensive part is blending the paint in. We used Cecobond cement, which is waterbased. Dad did not use the complete cecobond paint system, just the fabric cement. Glue the patch on as per your fabric system instructions. Next I brush 2-3 coats of the latex base "primer" color which is white on ours, and let dry 24 hrs or so. Then wetsand untill smooth, and the outter area of the primer is almost gone, thus leaving the low spot where you removed the paint, filled in. I think 3-4 coats of base color should fill the low spots, and hopefully 2-3 sessions of wetsanding is all that will be required to look decent. Then I plan on 3-4 brush coats of orange to match the rest of the wing. Hopefully the orange will match, it's been out in the hanger all winter freeze and thaw, but it mixed up well last week. That's about it, I think this patch will be my best one yet (out of neccesity, it's going to be in a visible area). One recomendation I have is make a frame out of 2x4 etc and cover it exsactly like your airplane, then you can practice on it. also when you go flying throw it out in the sun, and put in back in the hanger when your done. This will give you a fairly accurate fabric deterioratin (spelling) test sample if your wondering how its holding up. OH YEA, don't forget to use some Flotrol in your latex, it helps the paint flow out a little smoother, directions on the bottle. Shad ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 05:12:37 PM PST US From: shad bell Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Parts to go John, what mags are on your 235 c1b. I am using the same on my Jungster, but with out starter or electrical system. I believe they originally had s-400 series mags which had the "shower of sparks" ignition retard for start. They use a starter vibrator (transformer) unit instead of a impulse coupling. Do you plan on having electric, or starter? I would be interested in how your set up works either way. Shad ________________________________ Message 28 ____________________________________ Time: 05:18:18 PM PST US From: jorge lizarraga Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Ryan's Piet ok hooo. that is a p51 mustank cocpit is B..A....T...I...F...U...Ljust a museu m pise I whish my looks like yourskeep goin almost done .jorge from hanford --- On Sun, 4/18/10, Gary Boothe wrote: From: Gary Boothe Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Ryan's Piet Nice looking plane! looking forward to the pic with you guys in th e air =C2- I think I=99ll try leaving the aluminum polished, unless the glare be comes a problem. =C2- Gary From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-lis t-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Mueller Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 4:38 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Ryan's Piet =C2- Here's a pretty good view we snapped when we went to visit Gene and Tammy: =C2- http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2314248/N502R/hires/IMG_1454.JPG =C2- Nice panel setup. Are you going to leave the metal coverplate as is, or may be try your hand at engine turning? Good looking throttle quadrant too. =C2- Ryan =C2- On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 6:16 PM, Gary Boothe wrote: Negative...got the obligatory in-law reunion...WooHoo!! Here's a pic of my panel progress.... I can't find a pic of Walt's Piet. Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion, mounted Tail done, Fuselage on gear (18 ribs down.) -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Muelle r Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 4:06 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: I finally bought the plans! Enjoy. Thanks Gary ! I don't recall, are you going to be able to make it to Brodhead this year? Ryan Do not archive Sent from my iPad On Apr 18, 2010, at 3:06 PM, "Gary Boothe" wrote: > > > Congratulations, Ryan & Jess! I'll smoke a cigar for you.... > > Gary Boothe > Cool, Ca. > Pietenpol > WW Corvair Conversion, mounted > Tail done, Fuselage on gear > (18 ribs down.) > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Mueller > Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 10:55 AM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: I finally bought the plans! > > > We're buying Gene's Piet (Gene from Tennessee ), N502R! > > Ryan > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Apr 18, 2010, at 8:07 AM, Jeff Boatright wrote: > >>> >> >> Which one did you buy? >> >>> And there will be a second Piet at Olson right after Brodhead at >>> the end of July. =C2- ;) >>> >>> Ryan >>> >> >> >> -- >> >> Jeff Boatright >> "Now let's think about this..." >> >> >> >> > > =C2- =C2- =C2-http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-Listhttp:/ /forums.matronics.comhttp://www.matronics.com/contribution =C2- =0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 29 ____________________________________ Time: 05:23:12 PM PST US From: shad bell Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Ohio piet fly-in, food Good to hear Matthew, Bill See tells stories of you being filthy dirty and running all over at Brodhead when you were just a young'un. Well I guess the "pregos" (your wife and mine) can swap women stories while us men swap flying stories....."There I was at fligt level 310 with the # 1 on fire and #2 feathered..." I am really looking forward to the fly-in. I Shad P.S. Whoever is in charge of weather, we need sunny, calm and nice > > I'm planning on bringing the ole T-Craft up that way, > it's been way to long since it's been to centerburg, or > Wynkoop for that fact! So count us (myself and 7month > prego girlie!) in! Will show up early Saturday > morning and out that evening. I'm looking forward to > it, vacation request was just put in! > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Apr 8, 2010, at 6:37 PM, shad bell > wrote: > > > > > > > > Group, To all those who plan on attending our Ohio > piet fly-in, I am trying to come up with a way to keep it > affordable for me,and Dad so we can do it again in the > future. I am planning on making it pot luck, bring a > dish to pass, or if you can't carry food etc because you are > flying in, a donation jar. I might just hand out > tickets for a small donation, which is basically a meal > pass, bringing a covered dish, chips, soda etc would get you > a free ticket. One of the reasons I might need to do > this, is there are a few locals who have in the past shown > up uninvited to take advantage of peoples good nature, to > feed 10+ people with no intention of helping to donate or > contribute in any such way, and are blaitant in doing so > (it's a long story) If any of you have any other ideas > let me know. For those of you who plan on bringing > food, I will try to get a list of who is bringing what a > month or so in advance so I can get to the store to buy the > rest, so > > everyone will have a full belly. Don, Mike, > Frank, Skipp, and other friday night campers, I was thinking > if you want we can pile into the 1932 model A truck > (stakebed) hay ride style, and go uptown to the dinner for > breakfast 1st thing saturday morning, it's only 2 miles down > the road, I think it would be easier than cooking up > breakfast here, (I might be treading on thin ice with the > boss at that point, she'll be 7 months pregnant by then) If > I destroy the kitchen, I'll be camping at my own house. So > far I have 6-7 piets planning on attending, and 3-4 more of > maybe's, 4,5 piet builders (still building), some flying in, > others driving, one international attendee (Scott Knowlton, > from Canada)flying in a Stinson, and a dozzen or so of my > aviation friends and family. > > > > Shad > > > > P.S. I called to get prices on rent-a-johns, they are > only about $100 per unit, for Friday-Monday, 2 should be > plenty, I just use my tree when the laddies aren't looking. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Email Forum - > FAQ, > - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - > List Contribution Web Site - > -Matt > Dralle, List Admin. > > > > ________________________________ Message 30 ____________________________________ Time: 05:38:18 PM PST US From: "Gary Boothe" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Ryan's Piet ok Thanks, Jorge. Just keep at it, one piece at a time..really hoping to fly with you someday! Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion, mounted Tail done, Fuselage on gear (18 ribs down.) _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jorge lizarraga Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 5:18 PM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Ryan's Piet ok hooo. that is a p51 mustank cocpit is B..A....T...I...F...U...Ljust a museum pise I whish my looks like yourskeep goin almost done .jorge from hanford --- On Sun, 4/18/10, Gary Boothe wrote: From: Gary Boothe Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Ryan's Piet Nice looking plane! .looking forward to the pic with you guys in the air. I think I'll try leaving the aluminum polished, unless the glare becomes a problem. Gary _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Mueller Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 4:38 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Ryan's Piet Here's a pretty good view we snapped when we went to visit Gene and Tammy: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2314248/N502R/hires/IMG_1454.JPG Nice panel setup. Are you going to leave the metal coverplate as is, or maybe try your hand at engine turning? Good looking throttle quadrant too. Ryan On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 6:16 PM, Gary Boothe < gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote: Negative...got the obligatory in-law reunion...WooHoo!! Here's a pic of my panel progress.... I can't find a pic of Walt's Piet. Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion, mounted Tail done, Fuselage on gear (18 ribs down.) -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Mueller Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 4:06 PM To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: I finally bought the plans! rmueller23@gmail.com> Enjoy. Thanks Gary ! I don't recall, are you going to be able to make it to Brodhead this year? Ryan Do not archive Sent from my iPad On Apr 18, 2010, at 3:06 PM, "Gary Boothe" < gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote: gboothe5@comcast.net> > > Congratulations, Ryan & Jess! I'll smoke a cigar for you.... > > Gary Boothe > Cool, Ca. > Pietenpol > WW Corvair Conversion, mounted > Tail done, Fuselage on gear > (18 ribs down.) > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Mueller > Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 10:55 AM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: I finally bought the plans! > rmueller23@gmail.com> > > We're buying Gene's Piet (Gene from Tennessee ), N502R! > > Ryan > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Apr 18, 2010, at 8:07 AM, Jeff Boatright < jboatri@emory.edu> wrote: > jboatri@emory.edu >>> >> >> Which one did you buy? >> >>> And there will be a second Piet at Olson right after Brodhead at >>> the end of July. ;) >>> >>> Ryan >>> >> >> >> -- >> >> Jeff Boatright >> "Now let's think about this..." >> >> >> >> > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution " target=_blank rel=nofollow>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List =nofollow>http://forums.matronics.com blank rel=nofollow>http://www.matronics.com/contribution http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 31 ____________________________________ Time: 06:23:03 PM PST US From: AMsafetyC@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Parts to go Shad I have the bendix shower of sparks and have no box, so I am planning on a set of slicks with an electrical system. Shower is supposed to be a good system, however I need to have mine serviced then buy a box from somewhere. I think the cost of that out weighs the set of new slick mags. At least that's what I heard, anyway. I plan to keep pricing and looking for a deal on either John In a message dated 4/18/2010 8:12:48 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, aviatorbell@yahoo.com writes: --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: shad bell John, what mags are on your 235 c1b. I am using the same on my Jungster, but with out starter or electrical system. I believe they originally had s-400 series mags which had the "shower of sparks" ignition retard for start. They use a starter vibrator (transformer) unit instead of a impulse coupling. Do you plan on having electric, or starter? I would be interested in how your set up works either way. Shad ________________________________ Message 32 ____________________________________ Time: 07:04:39 PM PST US From: Tim Willis Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Ryan's Piet Gary, that is just gorgeous cockpit and panel work-- the laminated wood knobs and control stick, the metal work, the layout. Artful as well as very aesthetic. Tim in central TX do not archive -----Original Message----- >From: Gary Boothe >Sent: Apr 18, 2010 6:17 PM >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Subject: Pietenpol-List: Ryan's Piet > >Ooops...I mean Gene's Piet... > > >Negative...got the obligatory in-law reunion...WooHoo!! > >Here's a pic of my panel progress.... > >I can't find a pic of Walt's Piet. > >Gary Boothe >Cool, Ca. >Pietenpol >WW Corvair Conversion, mounted >Tail done, Fuselage on gear >(18 ribs down.) > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com >[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Mueller >Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 4:06 PM >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: I finally bought the plans! > > >Enjoy. Thanks Gary! I don't recall, are you going to be able to make it to >Brodhead this year? > >Ryan > >Do not archive > >Sent from my iPad > > >On Apr 18, 2010, at 3:06 PM, "Gary Boothe" wrote: > >> >> Congratulations, Ryan & Jess! I'll smoke a cigar for you.... >> >> Gary Boothe >> Cool, Ca. >> Pietenpol >> WW Corvair Conversion, mounted >> Tail done, Fuselage on gear >> (18 ribs down.) >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ryan >Mueller >> Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 10:55 AM >> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: I finally bought the plans! >> >> >> We're buying Gene's Piet (Gene from Tennessee), N502R! >> >> Ryan >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Apr 18, 2010, at 8:07 AM, Jeff Boatright wrote: >> >>>> >>> >>> Which one did you buy? >>> >>>> And there will be a second Piet at Olson right after Brodhead at >>>> the end of July. ;) >>>> >>>> Ryan >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Jeff Boatright >>> "Now let's think about this..." >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 33 ____________________________________ Time: 07:37:23 PM PST US From: Jim Markle Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Ryan's Piet wow, EVERY little detail is right. Sweet. -----Original Message----- >From: Gary Boothe >Sent: Apr 18, 2010 6:17 PM >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Subject: Pietenpol-List: Ryan's Piet > >Ooops...I mean Gene's Piet... > > >Negative...got the obligatory in-law reunion...WooHoo!! > >Here's a pic of my panel progress.... > >I can't find a pic of Walt's Piet. > >Gary Boothe >Cool, Ca. >Pietenpol >WW Corvair Conversion, mounted >Tail done, Fuselage on gear >(18 ribs down.) > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com >[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Mueller >Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 4:06 PM >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: I finally bought the plans! > > >Enjoy. Thanks Gary! I don't recall, are you going to be able to make it to >Brodhead this year? > >Ryan > >Do not archive > >Sent from my iPad > > >On Apr 18, 2010, at 3:06 PM, "Gary Boothe" wrote: > >> >> Congratulations, Ryan & Jess! I'll smoke a cigar for you.... >> >> Gary Boothe >> Cool, Ca. >> Pietenpol >> WW Corvair Conversion, mounted >> Tail done, Fuselage on gear >> (18 ribs down.) >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ryan >Mueller >> Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 10:55 AM >> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: I finally bought the plans! >> >> >> We're buying Gene's Piet (Gene from Tennessee), N502R! >> >> Ryan >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Apr 18, 2010, at 8:07 AM, Jeff Boatright wrote: >> >>>> >>> >>> Which one did you buy? >>> >>>> And there will be a second Piet at Olson right after Brodhead at >>>> the end of July. ;) >>>> >>>> Ryan >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Jeff Boatright >>> "Now let's think about this..." >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 34 ____________________________________ Time: 07:46:44 PM PST US From: Jim Markle Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Ryan's Piet wow, EVERY little detail is right. Sweet. -----Original Message----- >From: Gary Boothe >Sent: Apr 18, 2010 6:17 PM >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Subject: Pietenpol-List: Ryan's Piet > >Ooops...I mean Gene's Piet... > > >Negative...got the obligatory in-law reunion...WooHoo!! > >Here's a pic of my panel progress.... > >I can't find a pic of Walt's Piet. > >Gary Boothe >Cool, Ca. >Pietenpol >WW Corvair Conversion, mounted >Tail done, Fuselage on gear >(18 ribs down.) > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com >[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Mueller >Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 4:06 PM >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: I finally bought the plans! > > >Enjoy. Thanks Gary! I don't recall, are you going to be able to make it to >Brodhead this year? > >Ryan > >Do not archive > >Sent from my iPad > > >On Apr 18, 2010, at 3:06 PM, "Gary Boothe" wrote: > >> >> Congratulations, Ryan & Jess! I'll smoke a cigar for you.... >> >> Gary Boothe >> Cool, Ca. >> Pietenpol >> WW Corvair Conversion, mounted >> Tail done, Fuselage on gear >> (18 ribs down.) >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ryan >Mueller >> Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 10:55 AM >> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: I finally bought the plans! >> >> >> We're buying Gene's Piet (Gene from Tennessee), N502R! >> >> Ryan >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Apr 18, 2010, at 8:07 AM, Jeff Boatright wrote: >> >>>> >>> >>> Which one did you buy? >>> >>>> And there will be a second Piet at Olson right after Brodhead at >>>> the end of July. ;) >>>> >>>> Ryan >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Jeff Boatright >>> "Now let's think about this..." >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 35 ____________________________________ Time: 08:05:16 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing flop From: "Pieti Lowell" The flop has nothing to do with the inverted position, Douwes flop was total irrelevant. Pieti Lowell Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=294768#294768 ________________________________ Message 36 ____________________________________ Time: 08:10:33 PM PST US From: "Clif Dawson" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing flop For what it's worth, here's my flop. The trapzoidal areas will be covered with lexan, top and bottom. Much more visibility in a turn. The dragwires inside the wing keep the wing panels themselves square. The strut X bracing keep the entire wing from twisting back and forth as a unit. Suppose you had a situation where there was more drag on the right wing and less on the left. This would try to push the right wingtip back towards the tail and move the left foreward thus twisting the wing about the center. The X bracing works to keep that under control, among other things. Clif I was always taught to respect my elders, But it keeps getting harder to find one. > > > i am about to figure out how to make mine work now.I have my wings rigged > and am getting ready to make up the X-brace cables.-I kinda wonder why > they are necessary with the X-brace rods in the wings to control drag. my > wing flop section is the same width as the center section. so that leaves > about 2" gap on each side to hide.I'm guessing I'll end up making a gap > cover to come back the the rear spar and then something separate that will > be attached to the flop to close the gap but let it swing up with > it.Raymond ________________________________ Message 37 ____________________________________ Time: 08:46:45 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing flop From: Rick Holland I made my flop about a quarter inch narrower than the full opening width between the left and right wings of my 3 piece wing (see attached). Would think you could add a couple inches of width to your flop to fill those gaps (if you haven't covered it yet). rick On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 5:23 PM, skellytown flyer wrote: > skellflyer1@yahoo.com> > > i am about to figure out how to make mine work now.I have my wings rigged > and am getting ready to make up the X-brace cables.-I kinda wonder why they > are necessary with the X-brace rods in the wings to control drag. but anyway > I'll use them since the plans call for them and they can carry part of the > flight loads along with the struts. but my wing flop section is the same > width as the center section. so that leaves about 2" gap on each side to > hide.I'm guessing I'll end up making a gap cover to come back the the rear > spar and then something separate that will be attached to the flop to close > the gap but let it swing up with it.Raymond > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=294734#294734 > > -- Rick Holland Castle Rock, Colorado "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad" ________________________________ Message 38 ____________________________________ Time: 08:46:47 PM PST US From: "Gary Boothe" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Ryan's Piet Tim / Jim, Thanks! The wood work is a tribute to my father, who enjoyed working with exotic woods. I found this stuff amongst his collection and know one to be Orange Paducah. The other is some sort of African Maple (wish I had paid closer attention). I believe the control stick grip material to be walnut burl. I remain inspired by others on this list... Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion, mounted Tail done, Fuselage on gear (18 ribs down.) -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Willis Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 6:59 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Ryan's Piet Gary, that is just gorgeous cockpit and panel work-- the laminated wood knobs and control stick, the metal work, the layout. Artful as well as very aesthetic. Tim in central TX do not archive -----Original Message----- >From: Gary Boothe >Sent: Apr 18, 2010 6:17 PM >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Subject: Pietenpol-List: Ryan's Piet > >Ooops...I mean Gene's Piet... > > >Negative...got the obligatory in-law reunion...WooHoo!! > >Here's a pic of my panel progress.... > >I can't find a pic of Walt's Piet. > >Gary Boothe >Cool, Ca. >Pietenpol >WW Corvair Conversion, mounted >Tail done, Fuselage on gear >(18 ribs down.) > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com >[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Mueller >Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 4:06 PM >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: I finally bought the plans! > > >Enjoy. Thanks Gary! I don't recall, are you going to be able to make it to >Brodhead this year? > >Ryan > >Do not archive > >Sent from my iPad > > >On Apr 18, 2010, at 3:06 PM, "Gary Boothe" wrote: > >> >> Congratulations, Ryan & Jess! I'll smoke a cigar for you.... >> >> Gary Boothe >> Cool, Ca. >> Pietenpol >> WW Corvair Conversion, mounted >> Tail done, Fuselage on gear >> (18 ribs down.) >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ryan >Mueller >> Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 10:55 AM >> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: I finally bought the plans! >> >> >> We're buying Gene's Piet (Gene from Tennessee), N502R! >> >> Ryan >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Apr 18, 2010, at 8:07 AM, Jeff Boatright wrote: >> >>>> >>> >>> Which one did you buy? >>> >>>> And there will be a second Piet at Olson right after Brodhead at >>>> the end of July. ;) >>>> >>>> Ryan >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Jeff Boatright >>> "Now let's think about this..." >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 39 ____________________________________ Time: 09:06:27 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing flop From: Lloyd Smith Thanks. Good to know. BTW, glad you came out relatively unscathed. On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 11:04 PM, Pieti Lowell wrote: > Lowellcfrank@yahoo.com> > > The flop has nothing to do with the inverted position, Douwes flop was > total irrelevant. > Pieti Lowell > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=294768#294768 > > -- "There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -- PJ O'Rourke ________________________________ Message 40 ____________________________________ Time: 09:17:29 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Another newbie! From: Rick Holland Great decision Earl (though I think the Double Eagle is a great aircraft too). And if you really want to get into the history and spirit of the Pietenpol you have to read this book: http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/bvpages/pietenpolStory.php And for even more fun come to the annual Brodhead reunion the weekend before Oshkosh. rick On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 9:13 AM, echobravo4 wrote: > > I've been lurking for a while now, but decided that i would finally say > Hello > to everybody! > > I was looking at building a Double Eagle, but, have decided to go with a > Piet! > I really like the simplicity as well as the history and nostalgia that go > along > with this plane. > > I have my plans and am about to order the wood to build the ribs. > > Even though i'm just starting out, i have found this list to be very > inspirational- > Thank You!! > > Earl Brown > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=294536#294536 > > -- Rick Holland Castle Rock, Colorado "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad" ________________________________ Message 41 ____________________________________ Time: 09:37:16 PM PST US From: Jim Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Ryan's Piet Hi Gary, I really like your laminated control stick and the beautiful instrument panel. Its very clean looking and well laid out. What is the instrument going in the empty hole? Did you turn the control stick handle yourself? Where did you get the throttle quadrant, AS#S? Jim Also have meant to ask you what diameter your push rod is to the elevator bellcrank? Jim Boyer Santa Rosa, CA Pietenpol on wheels Tail surfaces done Wing ribs done Corvair engine On Apr 18, 2010, Gary Boothe wrote: Negative...got the obligatory in-law reunion...WooHoo!! Here's a pic of my panel progress.... I can't find a pic of Walt's Piet. Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion, mounted Tail done, Fuselage on gear (18 ribs down.) -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Mueller Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 4:06 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: I finally bought the plans! Enjoy. Thanks Gary! I don't recall, are you going to be able to make it to Brodhead this year? Ryan Do not archive Sent from my iPad On Apr 18, 2010, at 3:06 PM, "Gary Boothe" wrote: > > Congratulations, Ryan & Jess! I'll smoke a cigar for you.... > > Gary Boothe > Cool, Ca. > Pietenpol > WW Corvair Conversion, mounted > Tail done, Fuselage on gear > (18 ribs down.) > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Mueller > Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 10:55 AM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: I finally bought the plans! > > > We're buying Gene's Piet (Gene from Tennessee), N502R! > > Ryan > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Apr 18, 2010, at 8:07 AM, Jeff Boatright wrote: > >>> >> >> Which one did you buy? >> >>> And there will be a second Piet at Olson right after Brodhead at >>> the end of July. ;) >>> >>> Ryan >>> >> >> >> -- >> >> Jeff Boatright >> "Now let's think about this..." >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message pietenpol-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pietenpol-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/pietenpol-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.