Pietenpol-List Digest Archive

Fri 04/23/10


Total Messages Posted: 37



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     1. 05:32 AM - Re: Okay I'll try it this way and see if it makes it on the board (Jeff Boatright)
     2. 06:06 AM - Re: Okay I'll try it this way and see if it makes it on the board (Michael Perez)
     3. 07:12 AM - Re: Okay I'll try it this way and see if it makes it on the board (Gary Boothe)
     4. 07:22 AM - Re: Okay I'll try it this way and see if it makes it on the boa (Bill Church)
     5. 08:22 AM - Re: Okay I'll try it this way and see if it makes it on the boar (gtche98)
     6. 08:29 AM - corvair disassembly (schuerrman)
     7. 08:50 AM - Re: Corvair disassembly (Gary Boothe)
     8. 08:58 AM - Re: corvair disassembly (Jack Phillips)
     9. 09:07 AM - Re: corvair disassembly (dgaldrich)
    10. 09:53 AM - Re: corvair disassembly (Jack)
    11. 10:07 AM - Re: corvair disassembly (Bill Church)
    12. 10:24 AM - things about the straight axel (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation])
    13. 10:45 AM - Re: things about the straight axel (Jeff Boatright)
    14. 11:15 AM - Re: Okay I'll try it this way and see if it makes it on the boar (Catdesigns)
    15. 11:48 AM - Re: Model A carburetor (macz@peak.org)
    16. 11:50 AM - Fw: Re: Okay I'll try it this way and see if it makes it on the boar (gboothe5@comcast.net)
    17. 11:53 AM - Re: Re: Okay I'll try it this way and see if it makes it on the boar (H RULE)
    18. 12:45 PM - J3 Cub pattern video (JERRY GROGAN)
    19. 12:48 PM - Re: things about the straight axel (Jerry Dotson)
    20. 01:29 PM - Mike Cuy = Clark Gable? (Jeff Boatright)
    21. 01:47 PM - Radiator-Model A (pflyboy)
    22. 01:53 PM - Re: Mike Cuy = Clark Gable? (pflyboy)
    23. 01:56 PM - Re: Mike Cuy = Clark Gable? (Gary Boothe)
    24. 02:05 PM - Re: Mike Cuy = Clark Gable? (Jeff Boatright)
    25. 02:24 PM - Re: Mike Cuy = Clark Gable? (Ben Charvet)
    26. 02:32 PM - Re: Radiator-Model A (Dave Abramson)
    27. 02:47 PM - Re: Radiator-Model A (Owen Davies)
    28. 02:55 PM - Re: Radiator-Model A (pflyboy)
    29. 03:24 PM - Re: Re: Wing flop (Gary Boothe)
    30. 03:42 PM - Re: Re: Okay I'll try it this way and see if it makes it on the board (Jim)
    31. 04:00 PM - Re: Re: Okay I'll try it this way and see if it makes it on the board (Gary Boothe)
    32. 04:12 PM - Re: Mike Cuy = Clark Gable? (H RULE)
    33. 04:40 PM - Re: Okay I'll try it this way and see if it makes it on the board (helspersew@aol.com)
    34. 06:03 PM - Re: Mike Cuy = Clark Gable? (gtche98)
    35. 07:13 PM - Re: Okay I'll try it this way and see if it makes it on the board (John Recine)
    36. 07:39 PM - Re: corvair disassembly, spark plug holes (shad bell)
    37. 10:19 PM - Re: corvair disassembly, spark plug holes (H RULE)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:32:56 AM PST US
    From: Jeff Boatright <jboatri@emory.edu>
    Subject: Re: Okay I'll try it this way and see if it makes it
    on the board John, Thanks for the photos! Loved the comment about building an airplane 'cause the basement already had air in it... Jeff


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    Time: 06:06:03 AM PST US
    From: Michael Perez <speedbrake@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Re: Okay I'll try it this way and see if it makes it
    on the board I have not looked at the pictures yet, but I too was thinking about posting some pictures and short videos on my site of my build as well. To do so wo uld be all new to me...I am new to owning a web site. ANYHOO, if I decide t o take a break from building, I may work on that some. I tend not to post m uch about my progress and post even fewer pictures of it. - I'll be checking your out very soon. - M.Perez www.karetakeraero.com


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    Time: 07:12:41 AM PST US
    From: "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net>
    Subject: Okay I'll try it this way and see if it makes it on
    the board John, Don't forget www.westcoastpiet.com! You can email Chris Tracy all the pics you want, catdesigns@att.net. I wish everyone would load up his email with pics, so that he spends more time tending to his web site.it's my only hope of ever catching up with him. Gary Boothe Cool, CA Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion Tail done, Fuselage on gear 18 ribs done From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of AMsafetyC@aol.com Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 7:52 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Okay I'll try it this way and see if it makes it on the board <http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1048252084> http://www.facebook.com/album.php?id=1048252084 <http://www.facebook.com/album.php?id=1048252084&aid 54770> &aid 54770 <http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1048252084> John Recine April 22 at 10:23pm I have been looking at piet pics from all the builders for years and have not shared any with you. I realized that today and thought I should try to make up for that so I put together a short chronicle of my build since February of 2007 when I first began the build process. Naturally that did not begin immediately since I too ordered the prints, sat on them of a few months contemplating just how to begin. I had the good fortune to let a friend both convince and help me get started. He convinced me that I had the skills and just lacked the confidence to begin. From the time I got the prints I traveled and visited other builders and got some really good advice, the same tha I pass on to others making sure I give credit to the person I first herad it from. I posted my album on facebook and immediately received some ratherflattering comments, which I never expected. I though that for what ever reason those of you not on facebook may also be interested to see some of my progress pics. Actually since I have not made any of the pub;ic in the past and have only talked about building I figured it was time to lend some crdability to my claims and share some with those of you who have been more than willing to share their pictures. I hope you find them suitable and worthy of your time and enjoy looking at them as much as I have in building them. You should note that the pictures of the laminates were take by their skilled craftsman Dennis Vanderweide,who I am proud and privlidged to call my friend, mentor and convincer of the notion that I too can build a Pietenpol. Without whom I would still be lurking, wondering, wanting and dreaming of building my own Pietenpol while looking at the prints and never doing anything about it. Thanks John <http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid 54770&id=1048252084&ref=nf> <http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid 54770&id=1048252084&ref=nf> <http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid 54770&id=1048252084&ref=nf> My Piet Progress NX895JR ETHEL...ETHEL....Hell you say that dern fool is building an airOplane in his basement, donch know? Wonder how hes a gonna get it out of there, dern fool! Calls it a Pieten what? Pietenpol AirCamper, thought you said it was an airOplane? By: <http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1048252084&ref=nf> John Recine


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    Time: 07:22:09 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Okay I'll try it this way and see if it makes it on
    the boa
    From: "Bill Church" <billspiet@sympatico.ca>
    Wow, John. You actually have been building! Thanks for sharing. But I only see one wing... "A monoplane. Are you telling me you're building an airplane with only one wing?" BC do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=295399#295399


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    Time: 08:22:52 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Okay I'll try it this way and see if it makes it on
    the boar
    From: "gtche98" <garywilson213@yahoo.com>
    John - Do I need to be your Facebook Friend to be able to see this album? When I click on your link, I get: This content is currently unavailable The page you requested cannot be displayed right now. It may be temporarily unavailable, the link you clicked on may have expired, or you may not have permission to view this page. Would love to see your pictures and progress. Thanks, Gary Wilson Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=295402#295402


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    Time: 08:29:52 AM PST US
    Subject: corvair disassembly
    From: "schuerrman" <sdschuerr@live.com>
    I got my corvair yesterday and as I was pulling out my spark plug, I think I pulled some aluminum with it. I won't know until I chase it, but could a machinist put an insert in if it's bad? Also, the engine was seized. what a pain! The wrist pins were seized so I had to take the engine apart in the most unorthodox way. It's apart and it looks good. I think I cracked almost all of the upper studs. I'm going to pull them and reinstall them with loctite. The plans should show up today. I ripped all the capstrip for the ribs and, after rereading the manual from Bernie, I'm going with spruce. Everyone I've talked to says the best thing you can do while building is make it as light as possible. Advice taken. What kind of landing gear is recommended? It seems that the single axle, wooden gear makes for a rougher landing, but I think it looks cool. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=295404#295404


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    Time: 08:50:57 AM PST US
    From: "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net>
    Subject: Corvair disassembly
    Schuerrman, Congratulations on a fast start! You may want to direct your Corvair questions to that site: corvaircraft@mylist.net. Gary Boothe Cool, CA Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion Tail done, Fuselage on gear 18 ribs done -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of schuerrman Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 8:30 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: corvair disassembly I got my corvair yesterday and as I was pulling out my spark plug, I think I pulled some aluminum with it. I won't know until I chase it, but could a machinist put an insert in if it's bad? Also, the engine was seized. what a pain! The wrist pins were seized so I had to take the engine apart in the most unorthodox way. It's apart and it looks good. I think I cracked almost all of the upper studs. I'm going to pull them and reinstall them with loctite. The plans should show up today. I ripped all the capstrip for the ribs and, after rereading the manual from Bernie, I'm going with spruce. Everyone I've talked to says the best thing you can do while building is make it as light as possible. Advice taken. What kind of landing gear is recommended? It seems that the single axle, wooden gear makes for a rougher landing, but I think it looks cool. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=295404#295404


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    Time: 08:58:25 AM PST US
    From: "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: corvair disassembly
    Why would you think the wooden gear with the straight axle would make for rough landings? Landing gear doesn't make rough landings, pilots do. I can make greased on landings with my straight axle gear and wire wheels. I just can't do them consistently, but that's my fault not the undercarriage's. Jack Phillips NX899JP Raleigh, NC -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of schuerrman Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 11:30 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: corvair disassembly I got my corvair yesterday and as I was pulling out my spark plug, I think I pulled some aluminum with it. I won't know until I chase it, but could a machinist put an insert in if it's bad? Also, the engine was seized. what a pain! The wrist pins were seized so I had to take the engine apart in the most unorthodox way. It's apart and it looks good. I think I cracked almost all of the upper studs. I'm going to pull them and reinstall them with loctite. The plans should show up today. I ripped all the capstrip for the ribs and, after rereading the manual from Bernie, I'm going with spruce. Everyone I've talked to says the best thing you can do while building is make it as light as possible. Advice taken. What kind of landing gear is recommended? It seems that the single axle, wooden gear makes for a rougher landing, but I think it looks cool. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=295404#295404


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    Time: 09:07:48 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: corvair disassembly
    From: "dgaldrich" <dgaldrich@embarqmail.com>
    Yes the spark plug threads can be helicoiled if there's any probability that they were damaged in the dis-assembly process, probably best done by a machine shop if you have no experience doing it. Call or email William Wynne with any and all questions. He is very helpful and success oriented. I've found that most of the other Corvair engine sites are a mediocre supplement to his knowledge and he's willing to share it. In fact, he insists. Welcome to the CSCS. Dave Aldrich Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=295411#295411


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    Time: 09:53:13 AM PST US
    From: "Jack" <jack@textors.com>
    Subject: corvair disassembly
    Definitely split much cooler looking! Just kiddy Jack, Mike ETAL... Jack DSM Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of schuerrman Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 10:30 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: corvair disassembly I got my corvair yesterday and as I was pulling out my spark plug, I think I pulled some aluminum with it. I won't know until I chase it, but could a machinist put an insert in if it's bad? Also, the engine was seized. what a pain! The wrist pins were seized so I had to take the engine apart in the most unorthodox way. It's apart and it looks good. I think I cracked almost all of the upper studs. I'm going to pull them and reinstall them with loctite. The plans should show up today. I ripped all the capstrip for the ribs and, after rereading the manual from Bernie, I'm going with spruce. Everyone I've talked to says the best thing you can do while building is make it as light as possible. Advice taken. What kind of landing gear is recommended? It seems that the single axle, wooden gear makes for a rougher landing, but I think it looks cool. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=295404#295404


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    Time: 10:07:51 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: corvair disassembly
    From: "Bill Church" <billspiet@sympatico.ca>
    That's odd... you think rough landings look cool? Steve Schuerr wrote: "What kind of landing gear is recommended? It seems that the single axle, wooden gear makes for a rougher landing, but I think it looks cool." Hey, YOU wrote it, not me! (just pulling your chain) Seriously, though, like Jack said, the smoothness of the landing is all due to the abilities of the pilot, not the landing gear. Straight axle gear has bungees for shock absorption. BC Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=295424#295424


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    Time: 10:24:29 AM PST US
    From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]" <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov>
    Subject: things about the straight axel
    I don't know about Jack Phillips but I have no trouble making consistently smooth landings with my straight axel gear now that I got my vision corrected from 20/ 800. ;) There are several factors that make a straight axel gear a truly excellent landing gear. There is no toe-in, out, or camber--the gear tracks true and straight. You can make the ride stiffer by rewrapping your bungees tighter or you can rewrap them for a more cushy ride. Tire inflation pressure can make a big difference in ride quality but a more firm wheel gives less roll resistance on takeoff. Also with the straight axel you can have a wingwalker do chin ups on the axel when flying air show work. Mike C.


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    Time: 10:45:42 AM PST US
    From: Jeff Boatright <jboatri@emory.edu>
    Subject: Re: things about the straight axel
    Straight axle gear ALWAYS gives a smoother, more precise landing. I say that because my Piet has the split axle gear NONE of my landings are smooth and precise. -- Jeff Boatright "Now let's think about this..."


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    Time: 11:15:02 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Okay I'll try it this way and see if it makes it on
    the boar
    From: "Catdesigns" <Catdesigns@att.net>
    Anyone and everyone feel free to send me as many pictures as you want. I have been having trouble with the website uploads ever since I switched to windows vista so it might take me a week or two to get them posted but I promise it will get done eventually. Gary, I almost have one wing panel finished (should be done by beginning of next week). I see your still at 18 ribs. No one could build ribs that slow so you must have miss counted the number you needed to build. I believe you need 30 ribs. Get that kitchen remodel done yet? There is no way I am going to let Gary fly before me but man, could someone please slow him down. These late night building sessions trying to keep up with him are killing me. Chris Do not archive -------- Chris Sacramento, CA WestCoastPiet.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=295434#295434


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    Time: 11:48:06 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Model A carburetor
    From: macz@peak.org
    >Hello-- The Zenith carburetors were original equipment on Model A's and were manufactured for Ford by Zenith-Detroit and Holley companies. The Tillotson was an aftermarket carburetor sold by Western Auto and other car-parts retailers. The Tillotson seems flimsier and so the Zenith is preferred by most Model A enthusiasts. The Model B carburetor and manifold have larger passages so they can flow more gas/air. You can put a "B" or aftermarket camshaft in an "A" block to handle the additional flow. The Zenith is a good carburetor and parts are available today, but nowadays new replacement parts aren't always right. New jets, for example, flow all over the map. The main jet must flow 150-160 ml water/min with 36" of head. Other jets also have fairly specific flow specs. New jets are all over the map. And the fuel level in the bowl must be 5/8" below the seam between bowl and top casting of the carburetor or the carburetor will leak. --Mac in Oregon Hi all, > > Has anyone ever used a Tillotson carburetor? I think Larry Williamshad > one of those,is thatcorrect Larry? How does it compareto a Zenith model > B carb? > I'm looking for a Model B carb butis difficult to find onehere so I > thought about the Tillotson as an option. Thanks > Saludos > > Santiago > >


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    Time: 11:50:17 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Okay I'll try it this way and see if it makes
    it on the boar
    From: gboothe5@comcast.net
    ------Original Message------ Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Okay I'll try it this way and see if it makes it on the boar Sent: Apr 23, 2010 11:47 AM Still on the kitchen re-model...wife getting testy...got an extra cot in your garage? That might solve my rib problem, too. Gary Do not archive Gary ------Original Message------ From: Chris Tracy ReplyTo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Okay I'll try it this way and see if it makes it on the boar Sent: Apr 23, 2010 11:14 AM Anyone and everyone feel free to send me as many pictures as you want. I have been having trouble with the website uploads ever since I switched to windows vista so it might take me a week or two to get them posted but I promise it will get done eventually. Gary, I almost have one wing panel finished (should be done by beginning of next week). I see your still at 18 ribs. No one could build ribs that slow so you must have miss counted the number you needed to build. I believe you need 30 ribs. Get that kitchen remodel done yet? There is no way I am going to let Gary fly before me but man, could someone please slow him down. These late night building sessions trying to keep up with him are killing me. Chris Do not archive -------- Chris Sacramento, CA WestCoastPiet.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=295434#295434 ------Original Message Truncated------ Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry


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    Time: 11:53:59 AM PST US
    From: H RULE <harvey.rule@rogers.com>
    Subject: Re: Okay I'll try it this way and see if it makes
    it on the boar Get Windows 7 and all your problems will be solved.Just get the up date ver sion.=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Catdesigns <Ca tdesigns@att.net>=0ATo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Fri, April 23, 2010 2:14:27 PM=0ASubject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Okay I'll try it this way a nd see if it makes it on the boar=0A=0A--> Pietenpol-List message posted by : "Catdesigns" <Catdesigns@att.net>=0A=0AAnyone and everyone feel free to s end me as many pictures as you want.- I have been having trouble with the website uploads ever since I switched to windows vista so it might take me a week or two to get them posted but I promise it will get done eventually .- =0A=0AGary, I almost have one wing panel finished (should be done by b eginning of next week). I see your still at 18 ribs. No one could build rib s that slow so you must have miss counted the number you needed to build. I believe you need 30 ribs.- Get that kitchen remodel done yet?=0A=0AThere is no way I am going to let Gary fly before me but man, could someone plea se slow him down.- These late night building sessions trying to keep up w ith him are killing me.=0A=0AChris=0A=0ADo not archive=0A=0A--------=0AChri s=0ASacramento, CA=0AWestCoastPiet.com=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic online here:=0A=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=295434#295434=0A =========================0A ====================


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    Time: 12:45:02 PM PST US
    From: "JERRY GROGAN" <jerry@SKYCLASSIC.NET>
    Subject: J3 Cub pattern video
    Just thought this was worth shering. Here's a 4-minute video on flying a proper pattern in a J3 Cub. It's produced by a friend of mine from AVWeb: http://www.avweb.com/avwebflash/exclusivevids/ExclusiveVideo_PatterFlying _CFIs_SarcasmHumor_202261-1.html Worth sharing. Jerry Grogan Pieten38 Prairie City, IA


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    Time: 12:48:38 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: things about the straight axel
    From: "Jerry Dotson" <jdotson@erec.net>
    Has the straight axle group stayed with the plans??? The dimensions called for seem real narrow. I am about ready to turn my fuselage upside down and start building. I had a Luscombe that was a little narrow but handled great. It was around 72". How wide does the Piet wind up being? The drawings say the structure is 42" I think, add brakes and wheel I would say around 54"?? Taxi slow huh -------- Jerry Dotson 59 Daniel Johnson Rd Baker, FL 32531 Started building NX510JD July, 2009 Ribs and tailfeathers done using Lycoming O-235 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=295445#295445


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    Time: 01:29:24 PM PST US
    From: Jeff Boatright <jboatri@emory.edu>
    Subject: Mike Cuy = Clark Gable?
    I am sure that I'm the last one to know about this, but Mike Cuy is a movie star! http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=368823193842&subj=1103226011 -- Jeff Boatright "Now let's think about this..."


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    Time: 01:47:27 PM PST US
    Subject: Radiator-Model A
    From: "pflyboy" <nick_d_av8r@msn.com>
    Has anybody here ever mounted a Model A radiator between the landing gear legs like on so many other 1920s airplanes? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=295454#295454


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    Time: 01:53:05 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Mike Cuy = Clark Gable?
    From: "pflyboy" <nick_d_av8r@msn.com>
    Never saw that one before...good shots! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=295456#295456


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    Time: 01:56:20 PM PST US
    From: "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net>
    Subject: Mike Cuy = Clark Gable?
    Jeff, How do you find this stuff?...very nicely done...even brought a little lump to my throat, but don't tell anyone. Mike's my Hero for the Day. Gary Boothe Cool, CA Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion Tail done, Fuselage on gear 18 ribs done Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Boatright Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 1:28 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Mike Cuy = Clark Gable? I am sure that I'm the last one to know about this, but Mike Cuy is a movie star! http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=368823193842&subj=1103226011 -- Jeff Boatright "Now let's think about this..."


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    Time: 02:05:03 PM PST US
    From: Jeff Boatright <jboatri@emory.edu>
    Subject: Mike Cuy = Clark Gable?
    I'm one of those Ivory Tower guys who sits around all day gathering wool. Actually, I was minding my own bidness eating lunch at my desk when a Facebook message from Larry Wms popped up, prompting me to click through, and then when I was there I saw the photo of Mikey aged 2? getting potty trained, and so I clicked through there and ended up at Mikey's Facebook page where I saw a link for "Movies with Mike Cuy", which any more should probably get the viewer arrested, but took a chance and clicked through and vwah-lah, there was Mr. Cuy in all of his resplendent splendor, gassing on about NASA and Pietenpols. Maybe I should cut back on the coffee? =-O > >Jeff, > >How do you find this stuff?...very nicely done...even brought a little lump >to my throat, but don't tell anyone. Mike's my Hero for the Day. > -- --- Jeffrey H. Boatright, Ph.D. Associate Professor of Ophthalmology Emory University School of Medicine Editor-in-Chief Molecular Vision


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    Time: 02:24:12 PM PST US
    From: Ben Charvet <bcharvet@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: Mike Cuy = Clark Gable?
    Very nicely done video. It really does a good job of explaining the whole Low and Slow concept of the kind of flying I love. Ben Charvet NX866BC Finally in Phase 2 On 4/23/2010 4:55 PM, Gary Boothe wrote: > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Gary Boothe"<gboothe5@comcast.net> > > Jeff, > > How do you find this stuff?...very nicely done...even brought a little lump > to my throat, but don't tell anyone. Mike's my Hero for the Day. > > Gary Boothe > Cool, CA > Pietenpol > WW Corvair Conversion > Tail done, Fuselage on gear > 18 ribs done > Do not archive > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeff > Boatright > Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 1:28 PM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Mike Cuy = Clark Gable? > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Jeff Boatright<jboatri@emory.edu> > > I am sure that I'm the last one to know about this, but Mike Cuy is a > movie star! > > http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=368823193842&subj=1103226011 > > >


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    Time: 02:32:10 PM PST US
    From: "Dave Abramson" <davea@symbolicdisplays.com>
    Subject: Radiator-Model A
    THE "MOUNTAIN PIET" WITH THE SUBARU ENGINE HAD IT MOUNTED THAT WAY.... DAVE -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of pflyboy Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 1:47 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Radiator-Model A Has anybody here ever mounted a Model A radiator between the landing gear legs like on so many other 1920s airplanes? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=295454#295454


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    Time: 02:47:16 PM PST US
    From: Owen Davies <owen5819@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Radiator-Model A
    On 4/23/2010 5:26 PM, Dave Abramson wrote: > THE "MOUNTAIN PIET" WITH THE SUBARU ENGINE HAD IT MOUNTED THAT WAY.... > Somewhere, I've seen a pic of a Ford installation with a low radiator. It's been a very long time, but I think there were actually two radiators, a standard one in front of the lower cowl and a smaller one--maybe a heater core--between the gear legs. Owen


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    Time: 02:55:29 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Radiator-Model A
    From: "pflyboy" <nick_d_av8r@msn.com>
    Oh, sure enough it did-never noticed that before. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=295471#295471


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    Time: 03:24:49 PM PST US
    From: "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Wing flop
    Clif, I saw this last week when you posted it, but didn't really read it 'till just now. I like your lexan idea! Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion, mounted Tail done, Fuselage on gear (18 ribs down.) -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Clif Dawson Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 8:10 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing flop For what it's worth, here's my flop. The trapzoidal areas will be covered with lexan, top and bottom. Much more visibility in a turn. The dragwires inside the wing keep the wing panels themselves square. The strut X bracing keep the entire wing from twisting back and forth as a unit. Suppose you had a situation where there was more drag on the right wing and less on the left. This would try to push the right wingtip back towards the tail and move the left foreward thus twisting the wing about the center. The X bracing works to keep that under control, among other things. Clif I was always taught to respect my elders, But it keeps getting harder to find one. > <skellflyer1@yahoo.com> > > i am about to figure out how to make mine work now.I have my wings rigged > and am getting ready to make up the X-brace cables.-I kinda wonder why > they are necessary with the X-brace rods in the wings to control drag. my > wing flop section is the same width as the center section. so that leaves > about 2" gap on each side to hide.I'm guessing I'll end up making a gap > cover to come back the the rear spar and then something separate that will > be attached to the flop to close the gap but let it swing up with > it.Raymond


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    Time: 03:42:23 PM PST US
    From: Jim <jimboyer@hughes.net>
    Subject: Re: Okay I'll try it this way and see if it makes
    it on the board I really agree with you Gary; load up Chris' web site with pictures. In fact you might want to go to his house and help Chris load them on the web site and perhaps do some editing of duplicates, etc. Jim Jim Boyer Santa Rosa, CA Pietenpol on wheels Tail surfaces done Wing ribs done Corvair engine Apr 23, 2010 07:16:20 AM, pietenpol-list@matronics.com wrote: John, Dont forget www.westcoastpiet.com! You can email Chris Tracy all the pics you want, catdesigns@att.net. I wish everyone would load up his email with pics, so that he spends more time tending to his web siteits my only hope of ever catching up with him. Gary Boothe Cool, CA Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion Tail done, Fuselage on gear 18 ribs done From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of AMsafetyC@aol.com Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 7:52 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Okay I'll try it this way and see if it makes it on the board http://www.facebook.com/album.php?id=1048252084&aid 54770 John Recine April 22 at 10:23pm I have been looking at piet pics from all the builders for years and have not shared any with you. I realized that today and thought I should try to make up for that so I put together a short chronicle of my build since February of 2007 when I first began the build process. Naturally that did not begin immediately since I too ordered the prints, sat on them of a few months contemplating just how to begin. I had the good fortune to let a friend both convince and help me get started. He convinced me that I had the skills and just lacked the confidence to begin. From the time I got the prints I traveled and visited other builders and got some really good advice, the same tha I pass on to others making sure I give credit to the person I first herad it from. I posted my album on facebook and immediately received some ratherflattering comments, which I never expected. I though that for what ever reason those of you not on facebook may also be interested to see some of my progress pics. Actually since I have not made any of the pub;ic in the past and have only talked about building I figured it was time to lend some crdability to my claims and share some with those of you who have been more than willing to share their pictures. I hope you find them suitable and worthy of your time and enjoy looking at them as much as I have in building them. You should note that the pictures of the laminates were take by their skilled craftsman Dennis Vanderweide,who I am proud and privlidged to call my friend, mentor and convincer of the notion that I too can build a Pietenpol. Without whom I would still be lurking, wondering, wanting and dreaming of building my own Pietenpol while looking at the prints and never doing anything about it. Thanks John My Piet Progress NX895JR ETHEL...ETHEL....Hell you say that dern fool is building an airOplane in his basement, donch know? Wonder how hes a gonna get it out of there, dern fool! Calls it a Pieten what? Pietenpol AirCamper, thought you said it was an airOplane? By:John Recine <b></b><b>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List</b><b>http://forums.matronics.com</b><b></b><b>http://www.matronics.com/contribution</b><b></b>


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    Time: 04:00:09 PM PST US
    From: "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net>
    Subject: Okay I'll try it this way and see if it makes
    it on the board Let me near his computer?? That'll slow him down! Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion, mounted Tail done, Fuselage on gear (18 ribs down.) Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 3:42 PM Subject: Re: RE: Pietenpol-List: Okay I'll try it this way and see if it makes it on the board I really agree with you Gary; load up Chris' web site with pictures. In fact you might want to go to his house and help Chris load them on the web site and perhaps do some editing of duplicates, etc. Jim Jim Boyer Santa Rosa, CA Pietenpol on wheels Tail surfaces done Wing ribs done Corvair engine Apr 23, 2010 07:16:20 AM, pietenpol-list@matronics.com wrote: John, Don't forget www.westcoastpiet.com! You can email Chris Tracy all the pics you want, catdesigns@att.net. I wish everyone would load up his email with pics, so that he spends more time tending to his web site.it's my only hope of ever catching up with him. Gary Boothe Cool, CA Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion Tail done, Fuselage on gear 18 ribs done From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of AMsafetyC@aol.com Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 7:52 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Okay I'll try it this way and see if it makes it on the board http://www.facebook.com/album.php?id=1048252084&aid 54770 John Recine April 22 at 10:23pm I have been looking at piet pics from all the builders for years and have not shared any with you. I realized that today and thought I should try to make up for that so I put together a short chronicle of my build since February of 2007 when I first began the build process. Naturally that did not begin immediately since I too ordered the prints, sat on them of a few months contemplating just how to begin. I had the good fortune to let a friend both convince and help me get started. He convinced me that I had the skills and just lacked the confidence to begin. From the time I got the prints I traveled and visited other builders and got some really good advice, the same tha I pass on to others making sure I give credit to the person I first herad it from. I posted my album on facebook and immediately received some ratherflattering comments, which I never expected. I though that for what ever reason those of you not on facebook may also be interested to see some of my progress pics. Actually since I have not made any of the pub;ic in the past and have only talked about building I figured it was time to lend some crdability to my claims and share some with those of you who have been more than willing to share their pictures. I hope you find them suitable and worthy of your time and enjoy looking at them as much as I have in building them. You should note that the pictures of the laminates were take by their skilled craftsman Dennis Vanderweide,who I am proud and privlidged to call my friend, mentor and convincer of the notion that I too can build a Pietenpol. Without whom I would still be lurking, wondering, wanting and dreaming of building my own Pietenpol while looking at the prints and never doing anything about it. Thanks John My Piet Progress NX895JR ETHEL...ETHEL....Hell you say that dern fool is building an airOplane in his basement, donch know? Wonder how hes a gonna get it out of there, dern fool! Calls it a Pieten what? Pietenpol AirCamper, thought you said it was an airOplane? By:John Recine <b></b><b>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List</b><b>http://for ums.matronics.com</b><b></b><b>http://www.matronics.com/contribution</b><b>< /b>


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    Time: 04:12:30 PM PST US
    From: H RULE <harvey.rule@rogers.com>
    Subject: Re: Mike Cuy = Clark Gable?
    WOW! Fantastic video Mike.=0Aplease do not archive=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A__________ ______________________=0AFrom: Jeff Boatright <jboatri@emory.edu>=0ATo: pie tenpol-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Fri, April 23, 2010 4:28:17 PM=0ASubject: Pietenpol-List: Mike Cuy = Clark Gable?=0A=0A--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Jeff Boatright <jboatri@emory.edu>=0A=0AI am sure that I'm the l ast one to know about this, but Mike Cuy is a movie star!=0A=0Ahttp://www.f acebook.com/video/video.php?v=368823193842&subj=1103226011=0A=0A=0A-- -========================


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    Time: 04:40:18 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Okay I'll try it this way and see if it makes it on
    the board
    From: helspersew@aol.com
    Hi John, I like it, I like it. Very unique features. Like the gear legs, and the cool way you drew the turtledeck formers together at the rear. Very cool Dan Helsper Poplar Grove, IL.


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    Time: 06:03:12 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Mike Cuy = Clark Gable?
    From: "gtche98" <garywilson213@yahoo.com>
    Wow. Wonderful video. This should be sticky-ed to the top of this forum. This captures the essence of why we love the Piet. Beautiful bird Mike! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=295506#295506


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    Time: 07:13:12 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Okay I'll try it this way and see if it makes it on
    the board
    From: "John Recine" <amsafetyc@aol.com>
    Thanks Dan I appreciate your comments. John Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: helspersew@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Okay I'll try it this way an d see if it makes it on the board Hi John, I like it, I like it. Very unique features. Like the gear legs, and the cool way you drew the turtledeck formers together at the rear. Very cool Dan Helsper Poplar Grove, IL.


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    Time: 07:39:51 PM PST US
    From: shad bell <aviatorbell@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: corvair disassembly, spark plug holes
    Schuerrman, DO NOT USE HELICOILS!!!! You want to use Time Serts, brand thred repair inserts. We had a burnt pistons due to a helicoil tang acting like a glow plug and detonating that cylinder. I have a timesert kit/ tooling that Dad bought last year here at the hanger, I did one head in about 30 min. They really are a nice piece of hardware, You can even rent the tooling I believe from clark's corvair. It consists of a threaded pilot reamer, and spotface tool, follwed up with an insert instalation tool. We had to pull a head last year due to a stripped spark plug hole, pain in the but when it was already flying season. My advise is to find a headshop that is fammilar with corvairs, or just send them to Falcon Heads in Wisconsin, he always installs timeserts in all his corvair heads, and is supposed to be the corvair head guru. Hope this helps, feel free to ask any questions you might have, I may or may not have a good answer. Shad


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    Time: 10:19:59 PM PST US
    From: H RULE <harvey.rule@rogers.com>
    Subject: Re: corvair disassembly, spark plug holes
    I have a Franklin 80 hp and I believe that there is one of these things try ing to get out on one of my number one cylinder plugs.I can actually grab h old of it with a pair of needle nose plyers and it turns out counter clock wise.I'm not sure if I need a new one or not.I'm going to try and use the p lyers to turn it back in again.It only moved a 1/4 of a turn so it's not fa r to put it back.This letter of yours is very timely for me.I shall also as k my AME if he has such a tool or knows where I can get one.-=0A=0A=0A=0A =0A________________________________=0AFrom: shad bell <aviatorbell@yahoo.co m>=0ATo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Fri, April 23, 2010 10:39:33 PM=0ASubject: Re: Pietenpol-List: corvair disassembly, spark plug holes=0A =0A=0ASchuerrman, DO NOT USE HELICOILS!!!! You want to use Time Serts, bran d thred repair inserts.- We had a burnt pistons due to a helicoil tang ac ting like a glow plug and detonating that cylinder.- I have a timesert ki t/ tooling that Dad bought last year here at the hanger, I did one head in about 30 min.- They really are a nice piece of hardware, You can even ren t the tooling I believe from clark's corvair.- It consists of a threaded pilot reamer, and spotface tool, follwed up with an insert instalation tool .- We had to pull a head last year due to a stripped spark plug hole, pai n in the but when it was already flying season.- My advise is to find a h eadshop that is fammilar with corvairs, or just send them to Falcon Heads i n Wisconsin, he always installs timeserts in all his corvair heads, and is supposed to be the corvair head guru.- Hope this helps, feel free to ask any questions you might have, I may or may not have a good answer.=0A=0ASha ========================




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