---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 04/24/10: 10 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:28 AM - Re: corvair disassembly, spark plug holes (dgaldrich) 2. 05:42 AM - Re: Okay I'll try it this way and see if it makes it on the boa (Jerry Dotson) 3. 06:59 AM - Re: Re: Okay I'll try it this way and see if it makes it on the boa (John Recine) 4. 11:26 AM - Mike Cuy = Dwight Schrute from The Office (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]) 5. 12:38 PM - Re: Re: things about the straight axel (Jack Phillips) 6. 01:14 PM - Re: things about the straight axel (Jerry Dotson) 7. 05:36 PM - Re: corvair disassembly, spark plug holes (shad bell) 8. 06:38 PM - Re: things about the straight axel (carson) 9. 07:29 PM - Re: things about the straight axel (gcardinal) 10. 07:41 PM - Re: things about the straight axel (Tim Willis) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:28:59 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: corvair disassembly, spark plug holes From: "dgaldrich" Installing and/or replacing Helicoils in certified engines is a normal procedure and if PROPERLY done works just fine. If improperly done, the coil can work either way and cause problems. It's not the fault of the technology but rather the human factors. TimeSerts are certainly an option and may even be preferable if there is suitable tech support (jigs, tooling, etc) for us amateurs. I agree the best advice is to find someone with credible Corvair knowledge like Mark Petunias at Falcon Heads or William Wynne and let them point you in the right direction. My $.02 worth. Dave Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=295532#295532 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:42:04 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Okay I'll try it this way and see if it makes it on the boa From: "Jerry Dotson" John I really like the laminated gear. Even the piece across the bottom! Your struts look great too. I laminated my gear and all the struts. Took several hours. I couldn't resist sanding a spot to see what it was going to look like. What woods did you use? And that angle finder/protracter in pic 4....I need to visit you. -------- Jerry Dotson 59 Daniel Johnson Rd Baker, FL 32531 Started building NX510JD July, 2009 Ribs and tailfeathers done using Lycoming O-235 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=295536#295536 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/laminate_647.jpg ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:59:02 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Okay I'll try it this way and see if it makes it on the boa From: "John Recine" Jerry Thanks for the complements its nice to see that although I am building in a vacuum, the work is recognized. You as any other recognized builder are always welcome to visit my shop any time! And now with my newly installed metal detection equipment, no more missing tools. As like others of my fellow builders, I have other style points and additions both installed and planned that I have not revealed. Which I may leave to reveal at Brodhead in 2 years. Assuming I can stay on the grand plan if not then in 3 Brodheads! If anyone is interested I can put you in touch with my lamination furniture builder guy who laminated and shaped my white ash and black walnut gear and struts. The skill level and appearance are well beyond my equipment and skill level. John ------Original Message------ From: Jerry Dotson Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com ReplyTo: Pietenpol builders Board Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Okay I'll try it this way and see if it makes it on the boa Sent: Apr 24, 2010 8:41 AM John I really like the laminated gear. Even the piece across the bottom! Your struts look great too. I laminated my gear and all the struts. Took several hours. I couldn't resist sanding a spot to see what it was going to look like. What woods did you use? And that angle finder/protracter in pic 4....I need to visit you. -------- Jerry Dotson 59 Daniel Johnson Rd Baker, FL 32531 Started building NX510JD July, 2009 Ribs and tailfeathers done using Lycoming O-235 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=295536#295536 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/laminate_647.jpg Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 11:26:17 AM PST US From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Mike Cuy = Dwight Schrute from The Office Thanks for all the kind word's on Adam White's "The Restorers" segment on m y Pietenpol. The airplane is the star of the segment, I'm just the owner/operator for th e time being. I was grateful they asked me to do that segment since about the only thing I restored in the airplane was the engine and my sanity. Mike C. do not archive Adam White also produced Redtail Reborn and Flight of the Redtail, the Tusg kegee Airman's P-51 that was in an accident several years ago. http://www.facebook.com/hemlockfilms [cid:image001.jpg@01CAE3B8.78BE3760] ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 12:38:49 PM PST US From: "Jack Phillips" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: things about the straight axel I made mine 6 feet wide. Jack Phillips NX899JP Raleigh, NC -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Dotson Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 3:48 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: things about the straight axel Has the straight axle group stayed with the plans??? The dimensions called for seem real narrow. I am about ready to turn my fuselage upside down and start building. I had a Luscombe that was a little narrow but handled great. It was around 72". How wide does the Piet wind up being? The drawings say the structure is 42" I think, add brakes and wheel I would say around 54"?? Taxi slow huh -------- Jerry Dotson 59 Daniel Johnson Rd Baker, FL 32531 Started building NX510JD July, 2009 Ribs and tailfeathers done using Lycoming O-235 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=295445#295445 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 01:14:13 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: things about the straight axel From: "Jerry Dotson" Thanks Jack you just pushed me over the edge. That 42" was the width of the framework....almost like a glider landing gear. I want to be able to fly in crosswind and 6 feet tread will sure help about getting a wing up. A friend came over last week on his Champ and had a good crosswind. He didn't hold his wing down...wind got under it and he almost got the tip on the grass. He ran over 100 feet all out of shape. Just was hid day. He is a lot more careful now. -------- Jerry Dotson 59 Daniel Johnson Rd Baker, FL 32531 Started building NX510JD July, 2009 Ribs and tailfeathers done using Lycoming O-235 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=295567#295567 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 05:36:47 PM PST US From: shad bell Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: corvair disassembly, spark plug holes As far as a franklin engine, being a "certified" aircraft engine (may or may not be due to the experimental kits they used to sell) Helicoils are going to be a standard fix for a spark plug. If you can find info on the length of helicoils you need you might easily be able to install Time Serts instead, about as easily as helicoils. The nice thing about time serts is they should last longer than any helicoil. They are coated (copper?) steel threaded bushings and have a good flat gasket surface for your copper plug gaskets(tighter than a knat's ass streched over a rain barrel). I am not recomending you use them! do your own research, but I would (and might) use them on my Lycoming. Look up Time Serts on google, they have a short vidio tutorial and it shows the process of installing them. One word of warning, I would only do this with the cylinder removed from the case, so you don't get any metal shards in the engine. A good motorcycle shop will probably be familliar with t-serts and have the tooling. Shad ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 06:38:36 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: things about the straight axel From: "carson" Hi Jerry I made my axle 6 feet the width between the two ash blocks is 45 inch's on mine I just went by the plans and all the info on Chris's site It looks good not sure how it will go down the rwy. Carson Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=295591#295591 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 07:29:42 PM PST US From: "gcardinal" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: things about the straight axel One more consideration with the straight axle gear is "ramp appeal". It will set the airplane apart from EVERYTHING else on the field. Greg Cardinal ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]" Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 12:16 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: things about the straight axel > Aerospace Corporation]" > > I don't know about Jack Phillips but I have no trouble making consistently > smooth landings > with my straight axel gear now that I got my vision corrected from 20/ > 800. ;) > > There are several factors that make a straight axel gear a truly excellent > landing gear. > There is no toe-in, out, or camber--the gear tracks true and straight. > > You can make the ride stiffer by rewrapping your bungees tighter or you > can rewrap them for > a more cushy ride. > > Tire inflation pressure can make a big difference in ride quality but a > more firm wheel gives > less roll resistance on takeoff. > > Also with the straight axel you can have a wingwalker do chin ups on the > axel when flying > air show work. > > Mike C. > > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 07:41:14 PM PST US From: Tim Willis Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: things about the straight axel Those big wheels make all the Piets so set up enormously attractive, and call attention to its other classic lines. It just screams, "I am a 1929 Pietenpol!!!" A 3-fold Stearman-style windshield continues that image, as well. A tailskid is the final touch. Tim in central TX do not archive -----Original Message----- >From: gcardinal >Sent: Apr 24, 2010 9:24 PM >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: things about the straight axel > > >One more consideration with the straight axle gear is "ramp appeal". It will >set the airplane apart from EVERYTHING else on the field. > >Greg Cardinal > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]" > >To: >Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 12:16 PM >Subject: Pietenpol-List: things about the straight axel > > >> Aerospace Corporation]" >> >> I don't know about Jack Phillips but I have no trouble making consistently >> smooth landings >> with my straight axel gear now that I got my vision corrected from 20/ >> 800. ;) >> >> There are several factors that make a straight axel gear a truly excellent >> landing gear. >> There is no toe-in, out, or camber--the gear tracks true and straight. >> >> You can make the ride stiffer by rewrapping your bungees tighter or you >> can rewrap them for >> a more cushy ride. >> >> Tire inflation pressure can make a big difference in ride quality but a >> more firm wheel gives >> less roll resistance on takeoff. >> >> Also with the straight axel you can have a wingwalker do chin ups on the >> axel when flying >> air show work. >> >> Mike C. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message pietenpol-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pietenpol-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/pietenpol-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.