Pietenpol-List Digest Archive

Tue 04/27/10


Total Messages Posted: 17



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 09:39 AM - Added new pictures to the web site (Chris)
     2. 09:39 AM - Re: How much better can it get???? (greg menoche)
     3. 10:00 AM - Re: Added new pictures to the web site (Jack)
     4. 10:05 AM - Re: Added new pictures to the web site (gboothe5@comcast.net)
     5. 12:14 PM - Re: Re: Added new pictures to the web site (Jim)
     6. 01:13 PM - cable crimper (skellytown flyer)
     7. 01:43 PM - Re: cable crimper (Skip Gadd)
     8. 01:49 PM - Re: cable crimper (Ben Charvet)
     9. 03:25 PM - Re: cable crimper (skellytown flyer)
    10. 06:47 PM - Re: Chasing trains...Union Pacific 844 steam locomotive pictures (Gene Rambo)
    11. 08:34 PM - Re: Chasing trains...Union Pacific 844 steam 	locomotive pictures (Andrew M Eldredge)
    12. 08:45 PM - Re: Added new pictures to the web site (Chris)
    13. 08:50 PM - Re: Added new pictures to the web site (Chris)
    14. 09:08 PM - Re: Re: Added new pictures to the web site (Gary Boothe)
    15. 11:23 PM - Re: cable crimper (Clif Dawson)
    16. 11:35 PM - Re: Re: Added new pictures to the web site (Chris)
    17. 11:40 PM - Andrew's rebuild (Chris)
 
 
 


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    Time: 09:39:09 AM PST US
    From: "Chris" <catdesigns@att.net>
    Subject: Added new pictures to the web site
    I have finally got the new computer talking to the old website. There is a new page of pictures sent in by from Kevin Purtee http://westcoastpiet.com/kevin_purtee__nx899kp.htm Sorry it took so long Kevin and thanks for the pictures. Also added a page listing updates. http://westcoastpiet.com/what's_new.htm I just noticed I messed up Gary's link because I added pictures to his engine, wing and fuselage pages. I'll fix it one of these days. I will try to add a few more each until I get caught up. Chris Sacramento, Ca Westcoastpiet.com Do not archive


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    Time: 09:39:09 AM PST US
    From: greg menoche <gnwac@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: How much better can it get????
    What a GREAT stroy. Gave my chills. Greg Menoche DE -----Original Message----- >From: Jim Markle <jim_markle@mindspring.com> >Sent: Apr 25, 2010 9:47 AM >To: Pietenpol List <pietenpol-list@matronics.com> >Subject: Pietenpol-List: How much better can it get???? > >Yesterday we drive into town for the first time in forever. As much as I travel, I rarely drive to town (Tulsa). Julia and I and two of my sons (my oldest and youngest) are meeting my uncle at his son's hangar to clean some stuff out of it before they sell his plane. I can tell you seeing a nice plane (this is an older Mooney) sitting without it's pilot/owner is a very sad thing indeed. (My cousin died recently while he and his friend were practicing touch/go's). So this ain't gonna be a happy way to spend an afternoon. > >We got there before my uncle arrives and are watching planes land in a beautiful, windy partly cloudy sky. A couple T-6's and some other round engine planes landed from the Tulsa Air Show (which I sadly did not get to go to, although I had tickets in my pocket!). > >Then in the distance we see this yellow "Cub" on left base. He turns to final and I see a "different" looking tail shape and...hey wait...that's no Cub! Looks like an Air Camper tail shape! And I realize this little yellow plane has some writing on the side. Just like Steve Ruse' Air Camper! NO WAY! So I go running over to some guys watching the landing and ask if they have a radio. They say yes, so I ask if I can borrow it to call "that plane that just landed". I find out they just came from a little town about 45 miles from Tulsa where THEY had watched (a couple hours earlier) THAT yellow plane following a steam engine train along it's path (they mention that the plane couldn't quite keep up with the train). They are train and airplane enthusiasts and drove down to see the special event train. They asked if "my friend" didn't know where to meet me and I said he didn't EVEN know I was there! They just looked at me like I was nuts (I've seen the look before.... : - > ) > >Anyway, I run out to the taxiway and wave down the plane (running onto an active runway/taxi way is a WEIRD feeling!)...ran up to the pilot and he looks out and says "JIM???". HA! A VERY surreal moment! > >(Sorry for dragging this out.....) > >The wonderful part: What started off being a not so fun afternoon turns into Julia seeing her first actual flying Air Camper, me getting to FINALLY meet Steve face to face (after about 6 years of TRYING to get together)...well, the whole thing was just incredible....we shook hands, hugged, laughed...Steve landing at THAT airport at THAT moment lifted our spirits during a not so happy time. > >This note probably doesn't capture the magic of what happened yesterday but I can tell you that something special DID happen. I doubt that Steve realizes how important that landing was. I didn't until this morning when we were talking about it. > >Back during the "Save Markle's Piet" event I said more than once (from my heart) that I'm one of the luckiest people around. And I am that.... > >And I'm saying it again. >


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    Time: 10:00:18 AM PST US
    From: "Jack" <jack@textors.com>
    Subject: Added new pictures to the web site
    Chris, Thanks so much for maintaining your site; it's great and so helpful for us builders! I have a new PC as well and haven't switched my site over yet. Jack DSM Do not archive I have finally got the new computer talking to the old website. There is a new page of pictures sent in by from Kevin Purtee http://westcoastpiet.com/kevin_purtee__nx899kp.htm Sorry it took so long Kevin and thanks for the pictures. Also added a page listing updates. http://westcoastpiet.com/what's_new.htm I just noticed I messed up Gary's link because I added pictures to his engine, wing and fuselage pages. I'll fix it one of these days. I will try to add a few more each until I get caught up. Chris Sacramento, Ca Westcoastpiet.com Do not archive


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    Time: 10:05:47 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Added new pictures to the web site
    From: gboothe5@comcast.net
    Add some ribs and I'll be happy! Gary ------Original Message------ From: Chris Tracy Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com ReplyTo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: Added new pictures to the web site Sent: Apr 27, 2010 6:48 AM I have finally got the new computer talking to the old website. There is a new page of pictures sent in by from Kevin Purtee http://westcoastpiet.com/kevin_purtee__nx899kp.htm Sorry it took so long Kevin and thanks for the pictures. Also added a page listing updates. http://westcoastpiet.com/what's_new.htm I just noticed I messed up Gary's link because I added pictures to his engine, wing and fuselage pages. I'll fix it one of these days. I will try to add a few more each until I get caught up. Chris Sacramento, Ca Westcoastpiet.com Do not archive Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry


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    Time: 12:14:14 PM PST US
    From: Jim <jimboyer@hughes.net>
    Subject: Re: Added new pictures to the web site
    Gary it sounds like Chris is enhancing your pictures by adding pictures of wings (?). Jim Jim Boyer Santa Rosa, CA Pietenpol on wheels Tail surfaces done Wing ribs done Corvair engine On Apr 27, 2010, gboothe5@comcast.net wrote: Add some ribs and I'll be happy! Gary ------Original Message------ From: Chris Tracy Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com ReplyTo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: Added new pictures to the web site Sent: Apr 27, 2010 6:48 AM I have finally got the new computer talking to the old website. There is a new page of pictures sent in by from Kevin Purtee http://westcoastpiet.com/kevin_purtee__nx899kp.htm Sorry it took so long Kevin and thanks for the pictures. Also added a page listing updates. http://westcoastpiet.com/what's_new.htm I just noticed I messed up Gary's link because I added pictures to his engine, wing and fuselage pages. I'll fix it one of these days. I will try to add a few more each until I get caught up. Chris Sacramento, Ca Westcoastpiet.com Do not archive Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry


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    Time: 01:13:01 PM PST US
    Subject: cable crimper
    From: "skellytown flyer" <skellflyer1@yahoo.com>
    Well I need to do quite a few Nicopress crimps yet on 1/8" cable on my project. I have used one of the slow bolt together tools for a long time but I have messed up on to many nico's with it.I'm ready to try something different.I have read in the past that some folks were having decent results with a tool that probably came from harbor freight or some such store. I'm not crazy about buying another cheap Chinese made tool but if it will get me through this project I guess I need to.can anyone tell me if they have used one with good results? there is a store in Amarillo about 55 miles from here. Raymond Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=295916#295916


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    Time: 01:43:55 PM PST US
    From: "Skip Gadd" <skipgadd@earthlink.net>
    Subject: cable crimper
    Raymond, I got my bolt cutter type Nicopress tool at Home Depot or Lowes for about $20. Done probably a couple dozen 3/32 crimps so far and all check out good with the go no-go sleeve gauge. Skip > [Original Message] > From: skellytown flyer <skellflyer1@yahoo.com> > To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com> > Date: 4/27/2010 4:14:17 PM > Subject: Pietenpol-List: cable crimper > <skellflyer1@yahoo.com> > > Well I need to do quite a few Nicopress crimps yet on 1/8" cable on my project. I have used one of the slow bolt together tools for a long time but I have messed up on to many nico's with it.I'm ready to try something different.I have read in the past that some folks were having decent results with a tool that probably came from harbor freight or some such store. I'm not crazy about buying another cheap Chinese made tool but if it will get me through this project I guess I need to.can anyone tell me if they have used one with good results? there is a store in Amarillo about 55 miles from here. Raymond


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    Time: 01:49:00 PM PST US
    From: Ben Charvet <bcharvet@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: cable crimper
    I was able to borrow a real nicopress crimper from my EAA chapter. It had a cable cutter attached, which really comes in handy. If you have any other homebuilders in your area, you might be able to borrow one... Ben Charvet On 4/27/2010 4:43 PM, Skip Gadd wrote: > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Skip Gadd"<skipgadd@earthlink.net> > > Raymond, I got my bolt cutter type Nicopress tool at Home Depot or Lowes > for about $20. Done probably a couple dozen 3/32 crimps so far and all > check out good with the go no-go sleeve gauge. > Skip > > > >> [Original Message] >> From: skellytown flyer<skellflyer1@yahoo.com> >> To:<pietenpol-list@matronics.com> >> Date: 4/27/2010 4:14:17 PM >> Subject: Pietenpol-List: cable crimper >> >> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "skellytown flyer" >> > <skellflyer1@yahoo.com> > >> Well I need to do quite a few Nicopress crimps yet on 1/8" cable on my >> > project. I have used one of the slow bolt together tools for a long time > but I have messed up on to many nico's with it.I'm ready to try something > different.I have read in the past that some folks were having decent > results with a tool that probably came from harbor freight or some such > store. I'm not crazy about buying another cheap Chinese made tool but if it > will get me through this project I guess I need to.can anyone tell me if > they have used one with good results? there is a store in Amarillo about 55 > miles from here. Raymond > > >


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    Time: 03:25:54 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: cable crimper
    From: "skellytown flyer" <skellflyer1@yahoo.com>
    Thanks guys-I just finished calling the local hardware stores and nobody had one in stock.so I called my aircraft mechanic friend and he said I could borrow his. just hated to impose since he makes his living with his tools,but he said i could use it tomorrow.he hardly ever has a call to crimp a nicopress. Raymond Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=295935#295935


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    Time: 06:47:37 PM PST US
    From: "Gene Rambo" <generambo@msn.com>
    Subject: Re: Chasing trains...Union Pacific 844 steam locomotive
    pictures of course except for the 500ft from persons or property . . . Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Jack Phillips<mailto:pietflyr@bellsouth.net> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com<mailto:pietenpol-list@matronics.com> Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 10:19 PM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Chasing trains...Union Pacific 844 steam locomotive pictures <pietflyr@bellsouth.net<mailto:pietflyr@bellsouth.net>> There are no specific laws against flying next to a train, as long as it is not over a "congested area". The only requirement is that you be high enough that in the event of engine failure, you can put the airplane down without endangering anyone on the ground. Jack Phillips NX899JP Raleigh, NC -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com<mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-ser ver@matronics.com> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Clif Dawson Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 10:08 PM To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com<mailto:pietenpol-list@matronics.com> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Chasing trains...Union Pacific 844 steam locomotive pictures <CDAWSON5854@shaw.ca<mailto:CDAWSON5854@shaw.ca>> Here in Canada for G airspace the rule is "500 ft from any person, place or thing. Yours is most likely similiar. On the other hand we may be dealing with formation rules. :-) Clif Don't know the legality of flying next to a train, but I'm guessing it ain't. > > It still remains one of my fantasies. > > Glad you got to live it. > > Jim http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List<http://www.matronics.co m/Navigator?Pietenpol-List> http://www.matronics.com/contribution<http://www.matronics.com/contributi on>


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    Time: 08:34:43 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Chasing trains...Union Pacific 844 steam locomotive
    pictures
    From: Andrew M Eldredge <andrew.eldredge@gmail.com>
    Just happened to read that reg last night. =A7 91.119c "the aircraft may not be operated closer than 500 feet to any person, vessel, vehicle, or structure." Those pictures are fantastic. It looks like they were all taken from at least 700 feet away. It looks like the guys in the train were having as much of a ball as you, Steve. On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 6:41 PM, Gene Rambo <generambo@msn.com> wrote: > of course except for the 500ft from persons or property . . . > > Gene > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Jack Phillips <pietflyr@bellsouth.net> > *To:* pietenpol-list@matronics.com > *Sent:* Monday, April 26, 2010 10:19 PM > *Subject:* RE: Pietenpol-List: Chasing trains...Union Pacific 844 steam > locomotive pictures > > pietflyr@bellsouth.net> > > There are no specific laws against flying next to a train, as long as it is > not over a "congested area". The only requirement is that you be high > enough that in the event of engine failure, you can put the airplane down > without endangering anyone on the ground. > > Jack Phillips > NX899JP > Raleigh, NC > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Clif > Dawson > Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 10:08 PM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Chasing trains...Union Pacific 844 steam > locomotive pictures > > > Here in Canada for G airspace the rule is "500 ft from any person, place or > thing. > Yours is most likely similiar. On the other hand we may be dealing with > formation > rules. :-) > > Clif > > > Don't know the legality of flying next to a train, but I'm guessing it > ain't. > > > > It still remains one of my fantasies. > > > > Glad you got to live it. > > > > ====================== > Features Chat, http://www.matnbsp; via the Web > title=http://forums.matronics.com/ > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com<http://w ww.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List> > _p; generous bsp; title > http://www.matronics.com/contribution href=" > http://www.matronics.com/contribution"> > http://www.matronics.com/c=============== = > > > * > =========== =========== =========== =========== > * > > -- Andrew M. Eldredge Sahuarita, AZ


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    Time: 08:45:48 PM PST US
    From: "Chris" <catdesigns@att.net>
    Subject: Added new pictures to the web site
    Jack I hate Windows 7. I think the only people who like it are people who had to suffer through Vista. Good Luck! Chris Sacramento,Ca Westcoastpiet.com Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 9:59 AM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Added new pictures to the web site Chris, Thanks so much for maintaining your site; it's great and so helpful for us builders! I have a new PC as well and haven't switched my site over yet. Jack DSM Do not archive I have finally got the new computer talking to the old website. There is a new page of pictures sent in by from Kevin Purtee http://westcoastpiet.com/kevin_purtee__nx899kp.htm Sorry it took so long Kevin and thanks for the pictures. Also added a page listing updates. http://westcoastpiet.com/what's_new.htm I just noticed I messed up Gary's link because I added pictures to his engine, wing and fuselage pages. I'll fix it one of these days. I will try to add a few more each until I get caught up. Chris Sacramento, Ca Westcoastpiet.com Do not archive


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    Time: 08:50:06 PM PST US
    From: "Chris" <catdesigns@att.net>
    Subject: Added new pictures to the web site
    Gary I've got some spare ribs in the freezer if you think that will help. Chris Sacramento, Ca Westcoastpiet.com Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of gboothe5@comcast.net Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 10:06 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Added new pictures to the web site Add some ribs and I'll be happy! Gary ------Original Message------ From: Chris Tracy Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com ReplyTo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: Added new pictures to the web site Sent: Apr 27, 2010 6:48 AM I have finally got the new computer talking to the old website. There is a new page of pictures sent in by from Kevin Purtee http://westcoastpiet.com/kevin_purtee__nx899kp.htm Sorry it took so long Kevin and thanks for the pictures. Also added a page listing updates. http://westcoastpiet.com/what's_new.htm I just noticed I messed up Gary's link because I added pictures to his engine, wing and fuselage pages. I'll fix it one of these days. I will try to add a few more each until I get caught up. Chris Sacramento, Ca Westcoastpiet.com Do not archive Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry


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    Time: 09:08:19 PM PST US
    From: "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Added new pictures to the web site
    I was hoping so! I was going to drive to his house and claim my wings, but, ALAS, not even a picture of a rib! Still 12 ribs to go.... Gary Boothe Cool, CA Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion Tail done, Fuselage on gear 18 ribs done -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 12:14 PM Subject: Re: Re: Pietenpol-List: Added new pictures to the web site Gary it sounds like Chris is enhancing your pictures by adding pictures of wings (?). Jim Jim Boyer Santa Rosa, CA Pietenpol on wheels Tail surfaces done Wing ribs done Corvair engine On Apr 27, 2010, gboothe5@comcast.net wrote: Add some ribs and I'll be happy! Gary ------Original Message------ From: Chris Tracy Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com ReplyTo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: Added new pictures to the web site Sent: Apr 27, 2010 6:48 AM I have finally got the new computer talking to the old website. There is a new page of pictures sent in by from Kevin Purtee http://westcoastpiet.com/kevin_purtee__nx899kp.htm Sorry it took so long Kevin and thanks for the pictures. Also added a page listing updates. http://westcoastpiet.com/what's_new.htm I just noticed I messed up Gary's link because I added pictures to his engine, wing and fuselage pages. I'll fix it one of these days. I will try to add a few more each until I get caught up. Chris Sacramento, Ca Westcoastpiet.com Do not archive Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry


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    Time: 11:23:34 PM PST US
    From: "Clif Dawson" <CDAWSON5854@shaw.ca>
    Subject: Re: cable crimper
    I bought one of those. Mine is adjustable with two allen screws on the hinge assembly. This is how I use it. Clif harbor freight or some such store. I'm not crazy about buying another cheap Chinese made tool but if it will get me through this project I guess I need to.can anyone tell me if they have used one with good results? there is a store in Amarillo about 55 miles from here. Raymond


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    Time: 11:35:49 PM PST US
    From: "Chris" <catdesigns@att.net>
    Subject: Re: Added new pictures to the web site
    Gary and Jim, It's like that movie, I built the page am now just maybe they will come out of the corn field. Or think of it as bait. Maybe you'll catch some ribs swimming around in Auburn Lake...... Finish those ribs Gary. You will enjoy building the wings. I know I am. If I was closer to Douwe I would rebuld his wings in a heart beat. That's how much fun it is. I hate building wing ribs but assembling the wing, now that is way cool. You should bring your rib jig down and we can have a wing rib building party. Chris Sacramento, Ca Westcoastpiet.com Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Boothe Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 8:55 PM Subject: RE: Re: Pietenpol-List: Added new pictures to the web site --> <gboothe5@comcast.net> I was hoping so! I was going to drive to his house and claim my wings, but, ALAS, not even a picture of a rib! Still 12 ribs to go.... Gary Boothe Cool, CA Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion Tail done, Fuselage on gear 18 ribs done -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 12:14 PM Subject: Re: Re: Pietenpol-List: Added new pictures to the web site Gary it sounds like Chris is enhancing your pictures by adding pictures of wings (?). Jim Jim Boyer Santa Rosa, CA Pietenpol on wheels Tail surfaces done Wing ribs done Corvair engine On Apr 27, 2010, gboothe5@comcast.net wrote: Add some ribs and I'll be happy! Gary ------Original Message------ From: Chris Tracy Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com ReplyTo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: Added new pictures to the web site Sent: Apr 27, 2010 6:48 AM I have finally got the new computer talking to the old website. There is a new page of pictures sent in by from Kevin Purtee http://westcoastpiet.com/kevin_purtee__nx899kp.htm Sorry it took so long Kevin and thanks for the pictures. Also added a page listing updates. http://westcoastpiet.com/what's_new.htm I just noticed I messed up Gary's link because I added pictures to his engine, wing and fuselage pages. I'll fix it one of these days. I will try to add a few more each until I get caught up. Chris Sacramento, Ca Westcoastpiet.com Do not archive Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry


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    Time: 11:40:17 PM PST US
    From: "Chris" <catdesigns@att.net>
    Subject: Andrew's rebuild
    Andrew How is the rebuilding of your Pietenpol coming along? Chris Sacramento, Ca Westcoastpiet.com do not archive




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