Today's Message Index:
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1. 01:34 AM - Re: cable crimper (Jim Ash)
2. 04:46 AM - Re: Low level flying (helspersew@aol.com)
3. 05:07 AM - Re: Low level flying (Dan Yocum)
4. 05:35 AM - Re: Low level flying (Jim Ash)
5. 05:43 AM - Re: Low level flying (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation])
6. 05:45 AM - Re: Low level flying (Scott Knowlton)
7. 05:49 AM - questions for Kevin Purtee (Oscar Zuniga)
8. 05:54 AM - checking for deer on the runway/ groundhog holes (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation])
9. 06:15 AM - Re: Added new pictures to the web site (Michael F. Townsley)
10. 07:39 AM - Re: Low level flying (shad bell)
11. 08:05 AM - Re: checking for deer on the runway/ groundhog holes (Jeff Boatright)
12. 08:44 AM - Re: checking for deer on the runway/ groundhog holes (Tim Willis)
13. 08:58 AM - Re: Re: Re: Added new pictures to the web site (Jim)
14. 09:02 AM - Re: Re: Re: Added new pictures to the web site (Jim)
15. 09:50 AM - Re: Low level flying (Ben Charvet)
16. 09:53 AM - First Passenger Ride today! (Ben Charvet)
17. 10:09 AM - More ribs????? (Jim Markle)
18. 10:53 AM - Re: Low level flying (Jack Phillips)
19. 10:53 AM - Re: First Passenger Ride today! (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation])
20. 11:00 AM - Re: More ribs????? (K5YAC)
21. 11:06 AM - Re: cable crimper (K5YAC)
22. 11:07 AM - Re: Low level flying (Dan Yocum)
23. 11:11 AM - California Pietenpol Gathering (Michael Groah)
24. 11:14 AM - Re: questions for Kevin Purtee (kevinpurtee)
25. 11:34 AM - Re: Added new pictures to the web site (kevinpurtee)
26. 02:44 PM - Re: Added new pictures to the web site (Dan Yocum)
27. 04:23 PM - Re: Low level flying (Jeff Boatright)
28. 05:24 PM - Re: Low level flying (Rick Holland)
29. 08:10 PM - Re: Re: Added new pictures to the web site (Jim)
30. 08:11 PM - Re: Low level flying (Dan Yocum)
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| Subject: | Re: cable crimper |
Funny you should mention this now. I've got a need for several cables (on a sailboat)
and I was shocked at the cost of pre-made cables. I bought one of the tools
last year from either Lowe's or Home Deopt (don't remember which). Home Depot
has them (my local one did last weekend when I looked out of curiousity):
http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1vZ1xh3/R-100243794/h_d2/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&storeId=10051&catalogId=10053
The odd thing is, the folks at the store don't know they have them. There's so
little call for these things their stock is under a pile of dust. This is one
time where you're better off with the clueless lady behind the customer service
counter, because she doesn't presume she knows their own inventory and is more
willing to do a computer search. Have them look for 'swaging' and it pops right
up. Or I found them on the bottom shelf right under the bulk cables and chains.
The first cable end I did last year (for my boat trailer winch cable) was pretty
butchered-up, but useable. One of the items on my list of stuff to do at Sun
n Fun this year was to spend a few minutes (about 10, it turned out) with the
guy in the workshops who demonstrates cable swaging and find out what I was doing
wrong. My thanks to him. (Note here: He suggested clamping the jaw of the
tool in a vise. My intentions (haven't done it yet) are to put the jaw in the
vise, but with the end of the lower handle resting on the bench for leverage.
He also had some handouts which were mostly reprints from AC43-13 on cable swaging;
I guess I never paid attention to that section before. Useful stuff.
Also note, the aluminum ferrules from the hardware stores are pretty awful, and
they probably cost more than the good copper ones if you know where to get them.
Airparts (the ad with the old lady standing in a coil of aluminum) and Freeman
both had them at SNF, and I bought a pile of ferrules and thimbles (Why is
it my luggage always seems to contain a love letter from the TSA in it when
I get home?) from their bulk bins.
Jim Ash
-----Original Message-----
>From: Clif Dawson <CDAWSON5854@shaw.ca>
>Sent: Apr 28, 2010 2:22 AM
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: cable crimper
>
>I bought one of those. Mine is adjustable with two allen
>screws on the hinge assembly.
>This is how I use it.
>
>Clif
>
>
>harbor freight or some such store. I'm not crazy about buying another cheap
>Chinese made tool but if it will get me through this project I guess I need
>to.can anyone tell me if they have used one with good results? there is a
>store in Amarillo about 55 miles from here. Raymond
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| Subject: | Re: Low level flying |
=C2=A7 91.119c "the aircraft may not be operated closer than 500 feet to
any person, vessel, vehicle, or structure."
Does this mean I can swoop down and do low-level tree-top stuff, as long
as there is no person, vessel, or structure? One year I got a great ride
like that from a Bi-plane guy. What a thrill! In and out of the trees.
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
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| Subject: | Re: Low level flying |
The FAA regulations are intentionally non-specific so that one can
interpret them and remain within "The Letter of the Law."
So, yes.
:-)
dan
On 04/28/2010 06:45 AM, helspersew@aol.com wrote:
>
> 91.119c "the aircraft may not be operated closer than 500 feet to
> any person, vessel, vehicle, or structure."
>
> Does this mean I can swoop down and do low-level tree-top stuff, as long
> as there is no person, vessel, or structure? One year I got a great ride
> like that from a Bi-plane guy. What a thrill! In and out of the trees.
>
> Dan Helsper
> Poplar Grove, IL.
>
> *
>
>
> *
--
Dan Yocum
Fermilab 630.840.6509
yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
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| Subject: | Re: Low level flying |
So as long as I don't shake hands with the locomotive engineer, I'll be fine.
Jim
-----Original Message-----
>From: Dan Yocum <yocum@fnal.gov>
>Sent: Apr 28, 2010 8:06 AM
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Low level flying
>
>
>The FAA regulations are intentionally non-specific so that one can
>interpret them and remain within "The Letter of the Law."
>
>So, yes.
>
>:-)
>
>dan
>
>On 04/28/2010 06:45 AM, helspersew@aol.com wrote:
>>
>> 91.119c "the aircraft may not be operated closer than 500 feet to
>> any person, vessel, vehicle, or structure."
>>
>> Does this mean I can swoop down and do low-level tree-top stuff, as long
>> as there is no person, vessel, or structure? One year I got a great ride
>> like that from a Bi-plane guy. What a thrill! In and out of the trees.
>>
>> Dan Helsper
>> Poplar Grove, IL.
>>
>> *
>>
>>
>> *
>
>--
>Dan Yocum
>Fermilab 630.840.6509
>yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
>"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
>
>
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| Subject: | Low level flying |
There are some really, really cool apple orchards somewhere to the west/ northwest
of Brodhead's
Airport and some pilot I know accidentally found them and started flying between
the rows
that criss-crossed like a checkerboard on somewhat hilly terrain on the deck.
Of course this guy pictured
himself being chased by Ernst Kessler in the Hurricane Wood. Boy that pilot said
those orchards
were great fun.
Mike C.
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| Subject: | Re: Low level flying |
I'm pretty sure the FAA has the same fine print in their low flying regs as we
do here in Canada.
Flying below 500 above the highest obstacle is prohibited for purposes other than
take off, landing.
A practise forced approach or precautionary approach is an exception to the above.
One might find a suiteable field to practice over that happens to be running parallel
to a railroad track....
All within the law...
Scott Knowlton
Slow builder in Burlington
-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Ash <ashcan@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Low level flying
So as long as I don't shake hands with the locomotive engineer, I'll be fine.
Jim
-----Original Message-----
>From: Dan Yocum <yocum@fnal.gov>
>Sent: Apr 28, 2010 8:06 AM
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Low level flying
>
>
>The FAA regulations are intentionally non-specific so that one can
>interpret them and remain within "The Letter of the Law."
>
>So, yes.
>
>:-)
>
>dan
>
>On 04/28/2010 06:45 AM, helspersew@aol.com wrote:
>>
>> 91.119c "the aircraft may not be operated closer than 500 feet to
>> any person, vessel, vehicle, or structure."
>>
>> Does this mean I can swoop down and do low-level tree-top stuff, as long
>> as there is no person, vessel, or structure? One year I got a great ride
>> like that from a Bi-plane guy. What a thrill! In and out of the trees.
>>
>> Dan Helsper
>> Poplar Grove, IL.
>>
>> *
>>
>>
>> *
>
>--
>Dan Yocum
>Fermilab 630.840.6509
>yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
>"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | questions for Kevin Purtee |
Just looked through the pix of Niner Kilo Papa that
Chris put up at Westcoastpiet and I have two questions.
One, how does the engine sound with those ultra-short
and straight exhaust stacks? Does it bark pretty bad?
Two, looking at the pix of the bare fuselage on the
gear in the driveway, as well as the completed plane,
it looks like the nose sits really high compared to
my airplane. When you touch down in a full stall,
that baby must be REALLY stalled! Or do you ever get
the stick all the way back in the flare? Maybe it's
that way with all the "motorcycle wheel" Piets?!
Oscar Zuniga
Air Camper NX41CC
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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| Subject: | checking for deer on the runway/ groundhog holes |
Many times at my home airport at dusk there are deer either near the runway edges
or standing leisurely right on the runway itself so as a pure SAFETY measure I
often
times will do a low level fly by over the runway prior to landing to scare any
deer
away from the runway.
Of course sometimes I do this at high noon as well just because some deer are late
sleepers.
In all cases I make sure that there are no other planes in the pattern or back-taxiing
or
in the turn-arounds waiting to takeoff.
Part of this I say in fun and part of it very real because my flight instructor
and I killed
a deer by accident that darted in front of the Cherokee I was landing at Northfield
Airport
in Ohio back in the early 80's and it damaged the left landing gear and flap.
The airplane
veered to the left and the flight instructor pushed hard right rudder to keep us
from
going into the tree line next to the runway.
Mike C.
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| Subject: | Re: Added new pictures to the web site |
Chris,
Agree on Windows 7...That is why I am a Linux user...
Pastor Mike Townsley
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Chris wrote:
>
> Jack
>
> I hate Windows 7. I think the only people who like it are people who had to
> suffer through Vista.
>
> Good Luck!
>
> Chris
> Sacramento,Ca
> Westcoastpiet.com
>
> Do not archive
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack
> Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 9:59 AM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Added new pictures to the web site
>
>
> Chris,
> Thanks so much for maintaining your site; it's great and so helpful for us
> builders! I have a new PC as well and haven't switched my site over yet.
> Jack
> DSM
> Do not archive
>
> I have finally got the new computer talking to the old website.
>
> There is a new page of pictures sent in by from Kevin Purtee
> http://westcoastpiet.com/kevin_purtee__nx899kp.htm
>
> Sorry it took so long Kevin and thanks for the pictures.
>
> Also added a page listing updates.
>
> http://westcoastpiet.com/what's_new.htm
>
> I just noticed I messed up Gary's link because I added pictures to his
> engine, wing and fuselage pages. I'll fix it one of these days.
>
> I will try to add a few more each until I get caught up.
>
> Chris
> Sacramento, Ca
> Westcoastpiet.com
>
>
> Do not archive
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Low level flying |
Mike, I think I know who you are talking about, He mentioned something about getting
out early while at Brodhead to do some low flying. And for all you train
chasers, be DAMN careful, utility companies, telecomunication etc love to get
easements from railroads for towers, pole lines and other conspicuous obstructions,
so just watch out for them, they get built within days, and might not
be on you sectional. One other incident I read a while ago, involved an ultralight
who was following a train, got to close (really close) and the train's wake
caused him to meet his maker.
OK, my fatherly speech is over, go buzz someone you know......or don't know,
Shad
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| Subject: | Re: checking for deer on the runway/ groundhog holes |
Kids, deer, coyotes, cats, and dogs. All have made for 'interesting'
landings and roll-outs at 2GA9. Buzzing the field doesn't seem to
phase any of them, but it's fun!
--
Jeff Boatright
"Now let's think about this..."
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| Subject: | Re: checking for deer on the runway/ groundhog holes |
After a few beers I would like to tell you of my experience in herding cattle to
move them aside for an unscheduled landing in the only meadow in the area.
Tim in central TX
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-----Original Message-----
>From: Jeff Boatright <jboatri@emory.edu>
>Sent: Apr 28, 2010 9:52 AM
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: checking for deer on the runway/ groundhog holes
>
>
>Kids, deer, coyotes, cats, and dogs. All have made for 'interesting'
>landings and roll-outs at 2GA9. Buzzing the field doesn't seem to
>phase any of them, but it's fun!
>--
>
>Jeff Boatright
>"Now let's think about this..."
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Added new pictures to the web site |
Yeah I thought you had a secret that Chris was leaking. I have been meaning to
compliment you on how neat your firewall turned out. It really looks like a professional
job. I like the fluting around the top; looks like it was machine done
its so good.
Get your grandson again; heck one rib a week is better than none.
Jim B.
Jim Boyer
Santa Rosa, CA
Pietenpol on wheels
Tail surfaces done
Wing ribs done
Corvair engine
On Apr 27, 2010, Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote:
I was hoping so! I was going to drive to his house and claim my wings, but, ALAS,
not even a picture of a rib! Still 12 ribs to go....
Gary Boothe
Cool, CA
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
18 ribs done
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 12:14 PM
Subject: Re: Re: Pietenpol-List: Added new pictures to the web site
Gary it sounds like Chris is enhancing your pictures by adding pictures of wings
(?).
Jim
Jim Boyer
Santa Rosa, CA
Pietenpol on wheels
Tail surfaces done
Wing ribs done
Corvair engine
On Apr 27, 2010, gboothe5@comcast.net wrote:
Add some ribs and I'll be happy!
Gary
------Original Message------
From: Chris Tracy
Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
ReplyTo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Added new pictures to the web site
Sent: Apr 27, 2010 6:48 AM
I have finally got the new computer talking to the old website.
There is a new page of pictures sent in by from Kevin Purtee
http://westcoastpiet.com/kevin_purtee__nx899kp.htm
Sorry it took so long Kevin and thanks for the pictures.
Also added a page listing updates.
http://westcoastpiet.com/what's_new.htm
I just noticed I messed up Gary's link because I added pictures to his
engine, wing and fuselage pages. I'll fix it one of these days.
I will try to add a few more each until I get caught up.
Chris
Sacramento, Ca
Westcoastpiet.com
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| Subject: | Re: Added new pictures to the web site |
Maybe thats how Gary will get his ribs done; built it (the rib jig) and they will
come?
Jim
Jim Boyer
Santa Rosa, CA
Pietenpol on wheels
Tail surfaces done
Wing ribs done
Corvair engine
On Apr 27, 2010, Chris <catdesigns@att.net> wrote:
Gary and Jim,
It's like that movie, I built the page am now just maybe they will come out
of the corn field.
Or think of it as bait. Maybe you'll catch some ribs swimming around in
Auburn Lake......
Finish those ribs Gary. You will enjoy building the wings. I know I am. If
I was closer to Douwe I would rebuld his wings in a heart beat. That's how
much fun it is. I hate building wing ribs but assembling the wing, now that
is way cool. You should bring your rib jig down and we can have a wing rib
building party.
Chris
Sacramento, Ca
Westcoastpiet.com
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Boothe
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 8:55 PM
Subject: RE: Re: Pietenpol-List: Added new pictures to the web site
--> <gboothe5@comcast.net>
I was hoping so! I was going to drive to his house and claim my wings, but,
ALAS, not even a picture of a rib! Still 12 ribs to go....
Gary Boothe
Cool, CA
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
18 ribs done
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 12:14 PM
Subject: Re: Re: Pietenpol-List: Added new pictures to the web site
Gary it sounds like Chris is enhancing your pictures by adding pictures of
wings (?).
Jim
Jim Boyer
Santa Rosa, CA
Pietenpol on wheels
Tail surfaces done
Wing ribs done
Corvair engine
On Apr 27, 2010, gboothe5@comcast.net wrote:
Add some ribs and I'll be happy!
Gary
------Original Message------
From: Chris Tracy
Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
ReplyTo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Added new pictures to the web site
Sent: Apr 27, 2010 6:48 AM
I have finally got the new computer talking to the old website.
There is a new page of pictures sent in by from Kevin Purtee
http://westcoastpiet.com/kevin_purtee__nx899kp.htm
Sorry it took so long Kevin and thanks for the pictures.
Also added a page listing updates.
http://westcoastpiet.com/what's_new.htm
I just noticed I messed up Gary's link because I added pictures to his
engine, wing and fuselage pages. I'll fix it one of these days.
I will try to add a few more each until I get caught up.
Chris
Sacramento, Ca
Westcoastpiet.com
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| Subject: | Re: Low level flying |
When I was deciding my paint layout, I considered the large registration
numbers on the wings. I like to fly low over the river and beach, and
very seldom go lower than 500 feet. I've been cruising down the beach
at 200 ft and come across some surfers that would technically cause a
violation. One of the beauties of the Pietenpol is your registration
numbers only need to be I think 2 inches tall, I made mine slightly
bigger than that, but I left the large "There goes Ben" numbers off of
the wing.
Ben
On 4/28/2010 8:29 AM, Jim Ash wrote:
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Jim Ash<ashcan@earthlink.net>
>
> So as long as I don't shake hands with the locomotive engineer, I'll be fine.
>
> Jim
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
>> From: Dan Yocum<yocum@fnal.gov>
>> Sent: Apr 28, 2010 8:06 AM
>> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Low level flying
>>
>> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Dan Yocum<yocum@fnal.gov>
>>
>> The FAA regulations are intentionally non-specific so that one can
>> interpret them and remain within "The Letter of the Law."
>>
>> So, yes.
>>
>> :-)
>>
>> dan
>>
>> On 04/28/2010 06:45 AM, helspersew@aol.com wrote:
>>
>>> 91.119c "the aircraft may not be operated closer than 500 feet to
>>> any person, vessel, vehicle, or structure."
>>>
>>> Does this mean I can swoop down and do low-level tree-top stuff, as long
>>> as there is no person, vessel, or structure? One year I got a great ride
>>> like that from a Bi-plane guy. What a thrill! In and out of the trees.
>>>
>>> Dan Helsper
>>> Poplar Grove, IL.
>>>
>>> *
>>>
>>>
>>> *
>>>
>> --
>> Dan Yocum
>> Fermilab 630.840.6509
>> yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
>> "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | First Passenger Ride today! |
It is a beautiful day here in Florida today. I hadn't flown the Piet in
a week and a half because its been so windy. This morning I went up and
did 3 landings, and the winds still weren't too bad. Called my wife and
had her come out to the airport for her first ride. I hadn't flown a
passenger in about 15 years. We flew down the Indian River, up to New
Smyrna Beach, my typical flight. Visibility was about 30 miles under
clear skies. It was just really cool to be able to share the experience
with her. She got a kick out of the pre-flight briefing about how this
is a homebuilt aircraft, built by an amateur, etc.... My intercom was
turned off when I got ready to land, and I didn't know to remind her to
move her head to one side. This was my first landing not being able to
just look ahead for the runway centerline. I had about a 9 kt wind 40
degrees off the runway heading, but managed to do a nice one wheel
landing on the upwind wheel, and Carol's response was "Awesome". It
doesn't get much better than this, guys. Hope to post some pictures later.
Ben Charvet
NX866BC
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I would sure come...to that California Piet gathering that is....IF I knew there
were more ribs on the way...
(That sounded funny to me when I was just "thinking it" but after typing it...dumb....)
Anyway....they just scheduled me for a job in Modesto the week before the big event
(June 5)...I'm REALLY looking forward to bringing my camera and staying over
a day to pester everyone....
Wow, I just might get TWO Piet gatherings this year! :-)
jm....just about to remove my Model A so I can clean/repaint it. The guy that
built it did a fantastic mechanical job....but it ain't purty! :-) I have to
step up a bit before I can show up along all these museum quality Air Campers
I keep seeing!!!
-----Original Message-----
>From: Jim <jimboyer@hughes.net>
>Sent: Apr 28, 2010 11:58 AM
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: RE: Re: Pietenpol-List: Added new pictures to the web site
>
>
>
>Maybe thats how Gary will get his ribs done; built it (the rib jig) and they will
come?
>Jim
>
>Jim Boyer
>Santa Rosa, CA
>Pietenpol on wheels
>Tail surfaces done
>Wing ribs done
>Corvair engine
>
>
>On Apr 27, 2010, Chris <catdesigns@att.net> wrote:
>
>
>Gary and Jim,
>
>It's like that movie, I built the page am now just maybe they will come out
>of the corn field.
>
>Or think of it as bait. Maybe you'll catch some ribs swimming around in
>Auburn Lake......
>
>Finish those ribs Gary. You will enjoy building the wings. I know I am. If
>I was closer to Douwe I would rebuld his wings in a heart beat. That's how
>much fun it is. I hate building wing ribs but assembling the wing, now that
>is way cool. You should bring your rib jig down and we can have a wing rib
>building party.
>
>Chris
>Sacramento, Ca
>Westcoastpiet.com
>
>Do not archive
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Boothe
>Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 8:55 PM
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RE: Re: Pietenpol-List: Added new pictures to the web site
>
>--> <gboothe5@comcast.net>
>
>I was hoping so! I was going to drive to his house and claim my wings, but,
>ALAS, not even a picture of a rib! Still 12 ribs to go....
>
>Gary Boothe
>Cool, CA
>Pietenpol
>WW Corvair Conversion
>Tail done, Fuselage on gear
>18 ribs done
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim
>Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 12:14 PM
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Re: Pietenpol-List: Added new pictures to the web site
>
>
>
>Gary it sounds like Chris is enhancing your pictures by adding pictures of
>wings (?).
>Jim
>
>Jim Boyer
>Santa Rosa, CA
>Pietenpol on wheels
>Tail surfaces done
>Wing ribs done
>Corvair engine
>
>
>On Apr 27, 2010, gboothe5@comcast.net wrote:
>
>
>Add some ribs and I'll be happy!
>
>Gary
>------Original Message------
>From: Chris Tracy
>Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>ReplyTo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Pietenpol-List: Added new pictures to the web site
>Sent: Apr 27, 2010 6:48 AM
>
>
>I have finally got the new computer talking to the old website.
>
>There is a new page of pictures sent in by from Kevin Purtee
>http://westcoastpiet.com/kevin_purtee__nx899kp.htm
>
>Sorry it took so long Kevin and thanks for the pictures.
>
>Also added a page listing updates.
>
>http://westcoastpiet.com/what's_new.htm
>
>I just noticed I messed up Gary's link because I added pictures to his
>engine, wing and fuselage pages. I'll fix it one of these days.
>
>I will try to add a few more each until I get caught up.
>
>Chris
>Sacramento, Ca
>Westcoastpiet.com
>
>
>Do not archive
>
>
>Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
>
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| Subject: | Low level flying |
Ben, I considered that before putting the 30" numbers on my wing, but I
figured if someone told the FAA "It was an open cockpit parasol wing
monoplane with wire wheels" the Feds would know where to look with or
without registration numbers.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Raleigh, NC
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ben Charvet
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 12:46 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Low level flying
When I was deciding my paint layout, I considered the large registration
numbers on the wings. I like to fly low over the river and beach, and
very seldom go lower than 500 feet. I've been cruising down the beach
at 200 ft and come across some surfers that would technically cause a
violation. One of the beauties of the Pietenpol is your registration
numbers only need to be I think 2 inches tall, I made mine slightly
bigger than that, but I left the large "There goes Ben" numbers off of
the wing.
Ben
On 4/28/2010 8:29 AM, Jim Ash wrote:
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Jim Ash<ashcan@earthlink.net>
>
> So as long as I don't shake hands with the locomotive engineer, I'll be
fine.
>
> Jim
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
>> From: Dan Yocum<yocum@fnal.gov>
>> Sent: Apr 28, 2010 8:06 AM
>> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Low level flying
>>
>> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Dan Yocum<yocum@fnal.gov>
>>
>> The FAA regulations are intentionally non-specific so that one can
>> interpret them and remain within "The Letter of the Law."
>>
>> So, yes.
>>
>> :-)
>>
>> dan
>>
>> On 04/28/2010 06:45 AM, helspersew@aol.com wrote:
>>
>>> 91.119c "the aircraft may not be operated closer than 500 feet to
>>> any person, vessel, vehicle, or structure."
>>>
>>> Does this mean I can swoop down and do low-level tree-top stuff, as long
>>> as there is no person, vessel, or structure? One year I got a great ride
>>> like that from a Bi-plane guy. What a thrill! In and out of the trees.
>>>
>>> Dan Helsper
>>> Poplar Grove, IL.
>>>
>>> *
>>>
>>>
>>> *
>>>
>> --
>> Dan Yocum
>> Fermilab 630.840.6509
>> yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
>> "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | First Passenger Ride today! |
Congratulations Ben and great that your wife's reaction was so positive ! So
good that you have
a supportive spouse. Keep the airplane and her.
Mike C.
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: More ribs????? |
Great to hear that you are getting some work in Jim! Hey, give me a shout if you
need a hand. Oh, and if you don't already have a shop picked out to help you
with your clean up... I'd like to recommend Lucito's in Tulsa. They made my
40+ year old Corvair look factory new.
--------
Mark - working on wings
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| Subject: | Re: cable crimper |
Here are some details on my Nicopress knock off that I got from Home Depot (like
Clif's). Not as nice as the original tool, but should definitely get me trough
this project. The jaws are adjustable, so it might hold up for several projects.
Once I nailed the dimension I wanted, it hasn't budged.
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=67270&highlight
--------
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| Subject: | Re: Low level flying |
Here's 43 seconds of my Pietenpol low flying in the hills of California
(prior to me purchasing 'er):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFjXOhPYm1w&playnext_from=TL&videos=f1xihDFyjbo
On 04/28/2010 06:45 AM, helspersew@aol.com wrote:
>
> 91.119c "the aircraft may not be operated closer than 500 feet to
> any person, vessel, vehicle, or structure."
>
> Does this mean I can swoop down and do low-level tree-top stuff, as long
> as there is no person, vessel, or structure? One year I got a great ride
> like that from a Bi-plane guy. What a thrill! In and out of the trees.
>
> Dan Helsper
> Poplar Grove, IL.
>
> *
>
>
> *
--
Dan Yocum
Fermilab 630.840.6509
yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
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| Subject: | California Pietenpol Gathering |
Well, Since Markle brought it up..... Everyone don't forget that June 5th is the
West Coast Pietenpol Gathering.
I'll attach a pdf of the event handout.
Mike Groah
________________________________
From: Jim Markle <jim_markle@mindspring.com>
Sent: Wed, April 28, 2010 10:09:03 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: More ribs?????
I would sure come...to that California Piet gathering that is....IF I knew there
were more ribs on the way...
(That sounded funny to me when I was just "thinking it" but after typing it...dumb....)
Anyway....they just scheduled me for a job in Modesto the week before the big event
(June 5)...I'm REALLY looking forward to bringing my camera and staying over
a day to pester everyone....
Wow, I just might get TWO Piet gatherings this year! :-)
jm....just about to remove my Model A so I can clean/repaint it. The guy that
built it did a fantastic mechanical job....but it ain't purty! :-) I have to
step up a bit before I can show up along all these museum quality Air Campers
I keep seeing!!!
-----Original Message-----
>From: Jim <jimboyer@hughes.net>
>Sent: Apr 28, 2010 11:58 AM
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: RE: Re: Pietenpol-List: Added new pictures to the web site
>
>
>
>Maybe thats how Gary will get his ribs done; built it (the rib jig) and they will
come?
>Jim
>
>Jim Boyer
>Santa Rosa, CA
>Pietenpol on wheels
>Tail surfaces done
>Wing ribs done
>Corvair engine
>
>
>On Apr 27, 2010, Chris <catdesigns@att.net> wrote:
>
>
>Gary and Jim,
>
>It's like that movie, I built the page am now just maybe they will come out
>of the corn field.
>
>Or think of it as bait. Maybe you'll catch some ribs swimming around in
>Auburn Lake......
>
>Finish those ribs Gary. You will enjoy building the wings. I know I am. If
>I was closer to Douwe I would rebuld his wings in a heart beat. That's how
>much fun it is. I hate building wing ribs but assembling the wing, now that
>is way cool. You should bring your rib jig down and we can have a wing rib
>building party.
>
>Chris
>Sacramento, Ca
>Westcoastpiet.com
>
>Do not archive
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Boothe
>Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 8:55 PM
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RE: Re: Pietenpol-List: Added new pictures to the web site
>
>--> <gboothe5@comcast.net>
>
>I was hoping so! I was going to drive to his house and claim my wings, but,
>ALAS, not even a picture of a rib! Still 12 ribs to go....
>
>Gary Boothe
>Cool, CA
>Pietenpol
>WW Corvair Conversion
>Tail done, Fuselage on gear
>18 ribs done
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim
>Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 12:14 PM
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Re: Pietenpol-List: Added new pictures to the web site
>
>
>
>Gary it sounds like Chris is enhancing your pictures by adding pictures of
>wings (?).
>Jim
>
>Jim Boyer
>Santa Rosa, CA
>Pietenpol on wheels
>Tail surfaces done
>Wing ribs done
>Corvair engine
>
>
>On Apr 27, 2010, gboothe5@comcast.net wrote:
>
>
>Add some ribs and I'll be happy!
>
>Gary
>------Original Message------
>From: Chris Tracy
>Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>ReplyTo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Pietenpol-List: Added new pictures to the web site
>Sent: Apr 27, 2010 6:48 AM
>
>
>I have finally got the new computer talking to the old website.
>
>There is a new page of pictures sent in by from Kevin Purtee
>http://westcoastpiet.com/kevin_purtee__nx899kp.htm
>
>Sorry it took so long Kevin and thanks for the pictures.
>
>Also added a page listing updates.
>
>http://westcoastpiet.com/what's_new.htm
>
>I just noticed I messed up Gary's link because I added pictures to his
>engine, wing and fuselage pages. I'll fix it one of these days.
>
>I will try to add a few more each until I get caught up.
>
>Chris
>Sacramento, Ca
>Westcoastpiet.com
>
>
>Do not archive
>
>
>Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: questions for Kevin Purtee |
Hi Oscar - I've been told on several occasions that it "sounds good." I've never
been told "it's quiet."
It wheel lands a lot better than it 3 point lands. That may have a lot to do with
the big tires. I can verify that in 90+ hours and ~350 landings the stick
has never been completely back on touchdown.
I'm going to try to make it to Kingsbury on May 8th. Hope to see you there if
you can swing it.
Kevin
NX899KP
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| Subject: | Re: Added new pictures to the web site |
Thanks for all you do, Chris. I sent you a lot of pictures that I consider inane,
but know from personal experience that a builder can pick up something helpful
that the photographer would never anticipate. I've found helpful details
on the fringes of many pics posted on westcoastpiet.
I owe you beer, man!
Kevin
NX899KP
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| Subject: | Re: Added new pictures to the web site |
What Gary doesn't know is that he's actually built about 48 ribs so far.
Unbeknownst to him, I have hired the local Cool Cat Burglary Club to
break into his shop on a regular basis and steal one rib at a time,
keeping his total count to 18. In a few months I'll have the club put
them all back again and he'll have enough for 2 wings!
;-)
Dan
do not archive
On 04/28/2010 10:58 AM, Jim wrote:
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Jim<jimboyer@hughes.net>
>
>
> Maybe thats how Gary will get his ribs done; built it (the rib jig) and they
will come?
> Jim
>
> Jim Boyer
> Santa Rosa, CA
> Pietenpol on wheels
> Tail surfaces done
> Wing ribs done
> Corvair engine
>
>
> On Apr 27, 2010, Chris<catdesigns@att.net> wrote:
>
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Chris"<catdesigns@att.net>
>
> Gary and Jim,
>
> It's like that movie, I built the page am now just maybe they will come out
> of the corn field.
>
> Or think of it as bait. Maybe you'll catch some ribs swimming around in
> Auburn Lake......
>
> Finish those ribs Gary. You will enjoy building the wings. I know I am. If
> I was closer to Douwe I would rebuld his wings in a heart beat. That's how
> much fun it is. I hate building wing ribs but assembling the wing, now that
> is way cool. You should bring your rib jig down and we can have a wing rib
> building party.
>
> Chris
> Sacramento, Ca
> Westcoastpiet.com
>
> Do not archive
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Boothe
> Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 8:55 PM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Re: Pietenpol-List: Added new pictures to the web site
>
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Gary Boothe"
> --> <gboothe5@comcast.net>
>
> I was hoping so! I was going to drive to his house and claim my wings, but,
> ALAS, not even a picture of a rib! Still 12 ribs to go....
>
> Gary Boothe
> Cool, CA
> Pietenpol
> WW Corvair Conversion
> Tail done, Fuselage on gear
> 18 ribs done
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim
> Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 12:14 PM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Re: Pietenpol-List: Added new pictures to the web site
>
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Jim<jimboyer@hughes.net>
>
>
> Gary it sounds like Chris is enhancing your pictures by adding pictures of
> wings (?).
> Jim
>
> Jim Boyer
> Santa Rosa, CA
> Pietenpol on wheels
> Tail surfaces done
> Wing ribs done
> Corvair engine
>
>
> On Apr 27, 2010, gboothe5@comcast.net wrote:
>
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: gboothe5@comcast.net
>
> Add some ribs and I'll be happy!
>
> Gary
> ------Original Message------
> From: Chris Tracy
> Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> ReplyTo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Added new pictures to the web site
> Sent: Apr 27, 2010 6:48 AM
>
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Chris"<catdesigns@att.net>
>
> I have finally got the new computer talking to the old website.
>
> There is a new page of pictures sent in by from Kevin Purtee
> http://westcoastpiet.com/kevin_purtee__nx899kp.htm
>
> Sorry it took so long Kevin and thanks for the pictures.
>
> Also added a page listing updates.
>
> http://westcoastpiet.com/what's_new.htm
>
> I just noticed I messed up Gary's link because I added pictures to his
> engine, wing and fuselage pages. I'll fix it one of these days.
>
> I will try to add a few more each until I get caught up.
>
> Chris
> Sacramento, Ca
> Westcoastpiet.com
>
>
> Do not archive
--
Dan Yocum
Fermilab 630.840.6509
yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
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| Subject: | Low level flying |
I'm sure others' experiences have been different, but for the type of
"no-harm, no-foul" incidences we're talking about here, my experience
with authorities (whether fed or local) has uniformly been that if a
complaint were lodged and the N-number not provided or was in doubt,
the agent would use that as the "reason" for not pursuing the eevil
pilot. "Sorrow, sir, that the mean old airplane terrorized your two
year old and caused you to wet yourself, but without a confirmed
N-number, we really can't do much."
YMMV
>
>Ben, I considered that before putting the 30" numbers on my wing, but I
>figured if someone told the FAA "It was an open cockpit parasol wing
>monoplane with wire wheels" the Feds would know where to look with or
>without registration numbers.
>
>Jack Phillips
>NX899JP
>Raleigh, NC
>
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| Subject: | Re: Low level flying |
Who says those big three foot high numbers you paint on the top and bottom
of your wings have to be your N number? Assuming you have your real N numbe
r
in the proper size and location on the tail.
rick
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Ben Charvet <bcharvet@bellsouth.net>wrote
:
>
>
> When I was deciding my paint layout, I considered the large registration
> numbers on the wings. I like to fly low over the river and beach, and ve
ry
> seldom go lower than 500 feet. I've been cruising down the beach at 200
ft
> and come across some surfers that would technically cause a violation. O
ne
> of the beauties of the Pietenpol is your registration numbers only need t
o
> be I think 2 inches tall, I made mine slightly bigger than that, but I le
ft
> the large "There goes Ben" numbers off of the wing.
>
> Ben
> On 4/28/2010 8:29 AM, Jim Ash wrote:
>
>> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Jim Ash<ashcan@earthlink.net>
>>
>> So as long as I don't shake hands with the locomotive engineer, I'll be
>> fine.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>
>>
>>> From: Dan Yocum<yocum@fnal.gov>
>>> Sent: Apr 28, 2010 8:06 AM
>>> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>>> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Low level flying
>>>
>>> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Dan Yocum<yocum@fnal.gov>
>>>
>>> The FAA regulations are intentionally non-specific so that one can
>>> interpret them and remain within "The Letter of the Law."
>>>
>>> So, yes.
>>>
>>> :-)
>>>
>>> dan
>>>
>>> On 04/28/2010 06:45 AM, helspersew@aol.com wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> =A7 91.119c "the aircraft may not be operated closer than 500 feet
to
>>>> any person, vessel, vehicle, or structure."
>>>>
>>>> Does this mean I can swoop down and do low-level tree-top stuff, as lo
ng
>>>> as there is no person, vessel, or structure? One year I got a great ri
de
>>>> like that from a Bi-plane guy. What a thrill! In and out of the trees.
>>>>
>>>> Dan Helsper
>>>> Poplar Grove, IL.
>>>>
>>>> *
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *
>>>>
>>>>
>>> --
>>> Dan Yocum
>>> Fermilab 630.840.6509
>>> yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
>>> "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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>
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Castle Rock, Colorado
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| Subject: | Re: Added new pictures to the web site |
Dan,
Keep that to yourself. Those of us building in the same area can't keep up with
him as it is. He doesn't need those ribs for at least another six months.
Jim B.
Jim Boyer
Santa Rosa, CA
Pietenpol on wheels
Tail surfaces done
Wing ribs done
Corvair engine
On Apr 28, 2010, Dan Yocum <yocum@fnal.gov> wrote:
What Gary doesn't know is that he's actually built about 48 ribs so far.
Unbeknownst to him, I have hired the local Cool Cat Burglary Club to
break into his shop on a regular basis and steal one rib at a time,
keeping his total count to 18. In a few months I'll have the club put
them all back again and he'll have enough for 2 wings!
;-)
Dan
do not archive
On 04/28/2010 10:58 AM, Jim wrote:
>
>
> Maybe thats how Gary will get his ribs done; built it (the rib jig) and they
will come?
> Jim
>
> Jim Boyer
> Santa Rosa, CA
> Pietenpol on wheels
> Tail surfaces done
> Wing ribs done
> Corvair engine
>
>
> On Apr 27, 2010, Chris<catdesigns@att.net> wrote:
>
>
> Gary and Jim,
>
> It's like that movie, I built the page am now just maybe they will come out
> of the corn field.
>
> Or think of it as bait. Maybe you'll catch some ribs swimming around in
> Auburn Lake......
>
> Finish those ribs Gary. You will enjoy building the wings. I know I am. If
> I was closer to Douwe I would rebuld his wings in a heart beat. That's how
> much fun it is. I hate building wing ribs but assembling the wing, now that
> is way cool. You should bring your rib jig down and we can have a wing rib
> building party.
>
> Chris
> Sacramento, Ca
> Westcoastpiet.com
>
> Do not archive
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Boothe
> Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 8:55 PM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Re: Pietenpol-List: Added new pictures to the web site
>
> --> <gboothe5@comcast.net>
>
> I was hoping so! I was going to drive to his house and claim my wings, but,
> ALAS, not even a picture of a rib! Still 12 ribs to go....
>
> Gary Boothe
> Cool, CA
> Pietenpol
> WW Corvair Conversion
> Tail done, Fuselage on gear
> 18 ribs done
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim
> Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 12:14 PM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Re: Pietenpol-List: Added new pictures to the web site
>
>
>
> Gary it sounds like Chris is enhancing your pictures by adding pictures of
> wings (?).
> Jim
>
> Jim Boyer
> Santa Rosa, CA
> Pietenpol on wheels
> Tail surfaces done
> Wing ribs done
> Corvair engine
>
>
> On Apr 27, 2010, gboothe5@comcast.net wrote:
>
>
> Add some ribs and I'll be happy!
>
> Gary
> ------Original Message------
> From: Chris Tracy
> Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> ReplyTo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Added new pictures to the web site
> Sent: Apr 27, 2010 6:48 AM
>
>
> I have finally got the new computer talking to the old website.
>
> There is a new page of pictures sent in by from Kevin Purtee
> http://westcoastpiet.com/kevin_purtee__nx899kp.htm
>
> Sorry it took so long Kevin and thanks for the pictures.
>
> Also added a page listing updates.
>
> http://westcoastpiet.com/what's_new.htm
>
> I just noticed I messed up Gary's link because I added pictures to his
> engine, wing and fuselage pages. I'll fix it one of these days.
>
> I will try to add a few more each until I get caught up.
>
> Chris
> Sacramento, Ca
> Westcoastpiet.com
>
>
> Do not archive
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Dan Yocum
Fermilab 630.840.6509
yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
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| Subject: | Re: Low level flying |
On 04/28/2010 11:46 AM, Ben Charvet wrote:
>
> When I was deciding my paint layout, I considered the large registration
> numbers on the wings. I like to fly low over the river and beach, and
> very seldom go lower than 500 feet. I've been cruising down the beach at
> 200 ft and come across some surfers that would technically cause a
> violation. One of the beauties of the Pietenpol is your registration
> numbers only need to be I think 2 inches tall, I made mine slightly
> bigger than that, but I left the large "There goes Ben" numbers off of
> the wing.
Yup. You will notice that other Pietenpolers (F. Pavliga comes to mind)
have even put decoy numbers on their wings with no preceding 'N.'
N8031 has big ole 1 foot numbers on the side. I've been pondering
changing that. Shad has given me some ideas, already. I just need to
practice my paint matching and air brushing.
do not archive
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Dan Yocum
Fermilab 630.840.6509
yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
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