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     1. 06:03 AM - no flying in Ohio Saturday......... (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation])
     2. 07:00 AM - Re: Milestone- Spray painting complete! (Dan Yocum)
     3. 07:16 AM - Re: no flying in Ohio Saturday......... (Jeff Boatright)
     4. 08:04 AM - Re: no flying in Ohio Saturday......... (Dan Yocum)
     5. 08:44 AM - Re: no flying in Ohio Saturday......... (gcardinal@comcast.net)
     6. 11:05 AM - Re: no flying in Ohio Saturday......... (Chris)
     7. 11:48 AM - Re: no flying in Ohio Saturday......... (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation])
     8. 12:54 PM - Re: no flying in Ohio Saturday......... (Jack Phillips)
     9. 01:18 PM - Re: no flying in Ohio Saturday......... (Wayne Bressler)
    10. 01:33 PM - Re: Ethanol in Mogas-- more coming (Jeff Boatright)
    11. 06:04 PM - What must be done to invert a Ford Model A engine? (Mild Bill)
    12. 07:02 PM - Re: What must be done to invert a Ford Model A 	engine? (Ryan Mueller)
    13. 07:22 PM - Re: What must be done to invert a Ford Model A engine? (Pieti Lowell)
    14. 09:03 PM - Re: Ethanol in Mogas-- more coming (coxwelljon)
    15. 09:12 PM - Re: Question regarding control surface travel (coxwelljon)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | no flying in Ohio Saturday......... | 
      
      for me, anyway.
      
      
      Saturday
      Very windy and much cooler. Cloudy with a 50 percent chance of showers. Hig
      hs in the lower 50s. Southwest winds 25 to 35 mph with gusts to 55 mph.
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Milestone- Spray painting complete! | 
      
      I flew up to Dan's place yesterday and before his bodyguards carted me 
      off, I snapped some pictures!!  They're attached.  I wonder if I can 
      sell them to the Enquirer...
      
      Cheers,
      Dan (the paparazzo)
      
      do not archive
      
      -- 
      Dan Yocum
      Fermilab  630.840.6509
      yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
      "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: no flying in Ohio Saturday......... | 
      
      If Mikey ain't flyin', ain't NOBODY flyin'!!
      
      
      >for me, anyway.
      >
      >
      >Saturday
      >Very windy and much cooler. Cloudy with a 50 percent chance of 
      >showers. Highs in the lower 50s. Southwest winds 25 to 35 mph with 
      >gusts to 55 mph.
      >
      >
      
      
      -- 
      
      Jeff Boatright
      "Now let's think about this..."
      
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| Subject:  | Re: no flying in Ohio Saturday......... | 
      
      
      My dad tells a story about flying a J-5 over the lake we lived on when 
      he was a younger man.  It's not a terribly interesting story, until he 
      appended the word "backwards."
      
      With a 35mph headwind, you should be able to hover, at least.
      
      do not archive
      
      
      On 05/07/2010 08:00 AM, Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace 
      Corporation] wrote:
      > for me, anyway.
      > *Saturday*
      > Very windy and much cooler. Cloudy with a 50 percent chance of showers.
      > Highs in the lower 50s. Southwest winds 25 to 35 mph with gusts to 55 mph.
      >
      > *
      >
      >
      > *
      
      -- 
      Dan Yocum
      Fermilab  630.840.6509
      yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
      "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: no flying in Ohio Saturday......... | 
      
      
      "Highs in the lower 50's"..........LUXURY! 
      
      
      Minneapolis is expecting 2" of wet snow. I'm not flying either. 
      
      
      Greg C. 
      
      Minneapolis 
      
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "Michael D. Cuy (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]" michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov
      
      
      
      for me, anyway. 
      
      
      Saturday 
      Very windy and much cooler. Cloudy with a 50 percent chance of showers. Highs in
      the lower 50s. Southwest winds 25 to 35 mph with gusts to 55 mph. 
      
      
      for me, anyway. 
      
      
      Saturday 
      Very windy and much cooler. Cloudy with a 50 percent chance of showers. Highs in
      the lower 50s. Southwest winds 25 to 35 mph with gusts to 55 mph. 
      
      
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| Subject:  | no flying in Ohio Saturday......... | 
      
      It's bad out here in California too.
      
      
      69.4 =B0F Clear
      Humidity:	 34%
      Dew Point:	 38 =B0F 
      Wind:	 0.0 mph 
      
      
      Wind Gust:	 2.0 mph
      Pressure:	 30.05 in (Steady) 
      Visibility:	 10.0 miles 
      UV:	 5.2 out of 16
      Clouds:	 
      Clear - 
      (Above Ground Level)
      Elevation:	 130 ft
      However I am not flying either, no plane.
      
      Chris
      Sacramento, Ca
      Westcoastpiet.com
      
      Do not archive
      
      
        _____  
      
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
      gcardinal@comcast.net
      Sent: Friday, May 07, 2010 8:41 AM
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: no flying in Ohio Saturday.........
      
      
      "Highs in the lower 50's"..........LUXURY!
      
      
      Minneapolis is expecting 2" of wet snow. I'm not flying either.
      
      
      Greg C.
      
      Minneapolis
      
      
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: "Michael D. Cuy (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]"
      michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov
      
      
      for me, anyway. 
      
      
      Saturday
      Very windy and much cooler. Cloudy with a 50 percent chance of showers.
      Highs in the lower 50s. Southwest winds 25 to 35 mph with gusts to 55 
      mph.
      
      
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| Subject:  | no flying in Ohio Saturday......... | 
      
      I don't know how you endure such difficult weather conditions Chris.   My h
      eart really goes out for you guys:)
      
      Keep plugging on your Pietenpol project.   One day in the future you'll be 
      able to take that weather and put it to good
      use.
      
      Flying is cheaper than therapy or a mistress.
      
      Mike C.
      
      do not archive
      
      
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-lis
      t-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris
      Sent: Friday, May 07, 2010 2:05 PM
      Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: no flying in Ohio Saturday.........
      
      It's bad out here in California too.
      
      69.4 =B0F Clear
      
      
      Humidity:
      
      34%
      
      Dew Point:
      
      38 =B0F
      
      Wind:
      
      0.0 mph
      
      
      Wind Gust:
      
      2.0 mph
      
      Pressure:
      
      30.05 in (Steady)
      
      Visibility:
      
      10.0 miles
      
      UV:
      
      5.2 out of 16
      
      Clouds:
      
      Clear -
      (Above Ground Level)
      
      Elevation:
      
      130 ft
      
      
      However I am not flying either, no plane.
      
      Chris
      Sacramento, Ca
      Westcoastpiet.com
      
      Do not archive
      
      
      ________________________________
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-lis
      t-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of gcardinal@comcast.net
      Sent: Friday, May 07, 2010 8:41 AM
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: no flying in Ohio Saturday.........
      
      "Highs in the lower 50's"..........LUXURY!
      
      
      Minneapolis is expecting 2" of wet snow. I'm not flying either.
      
      
      Greg C.
      
      Minneapolis
      
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: "Michael D. Cuy (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]" michael.d.cuy
      @nasa.gov<mailto:michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov>
      
      
      for me, anyway.
      
      
      Saturday
      Very windy and much cooler. Cloudy with a 50 percent chance of showers. Hig
      hs in the lower 50s. Southwest winds 25 to 35 mph with gusts to 55 mph.
      
      
      href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.matro
      nics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
      
      href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
      
      href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c
      
      
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| Subject:  | no flying in Ohio Saturday......... | 
      
      I just got down from a brief excursion in the RV-4.  A few loops and rolls
      and a hammerhead over Smith Mountain Lake (we're up here for the weekend).
      I wish I had the Pietenpol here, wx is perfect.
      
      
        _____  
      
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Cuy, Michael
      D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]
      Sent: Friday, May 07, 2010 9:00 AM
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: no flying in Ohio Saturday.........
      
      
      for me, anyway. 
      
      
      Saturday
      
      Very windy and much cooler. Cloudy with a 50 percent chance of showers.
      Highs in the lower 50s. Southwest winds 25 to 35 mph with gusts to 55 mph.
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: no flying in Ohio Saturday......... | 
      
      Jack,
      
      You should have said hello.  I've been working "Leesburg Radio" since  
      
      2:30.  :)
      
      Wayne Bressler Jr.
      Taildraggers, Inc.
      taildraggersinc.com
      
      On May 7, 2010, at 3:51 PM, "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>  
      wrote:
      
      > I just got down from a brief excursion in the RV-4.  A few loops and  
      
      > rolls and a hammerhead over Smith Mountain Lake (we=99re up here 
      for t 
      > he weekend).  I wish I had the Pietenpol here, wx is perfect.
      >
      > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner- 
      > pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Cuy, Michael D.  
      > (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]
      > Sent: Friday, May 07, 2010 9:00 AM
      > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
      > Subject: Pietenpol-List: no flying in Ohio Saturday.........
      >
      > for me, anyway.
      >
      >
      > Saturday
      > Very windy and much cooler. Cloudy with a 50 percent chance of  
      > showers. Highs in the lower 50s. Southwest winds 25 to 35 mph with  
      > gusts to 55 mph.
      >
      >
      > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
      > http://forums.matronics.com
      > http://www.matronics.com/contribution
      >
      >
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Ethanol in Mogas-- more coming | 
      
      
      Nope, I don't think you're missing anything. I wish we were missing 
      something and I'd love to hear solutions or tricks or work-arounds 
      that actually work.
      
      As to mandates, there is a brief article at
      
      http://blogs.cars.com/kickingtires/2010/05/with-new-mandates-being-questioned-ethanol-lobby-points-to-gulf-oil-disaster.html
      
      that suggests the new mandates may be delayed. Here's hoping.
      
      I am lucky in that I can buy avgas at several local airports. Within 
      30 miles the prices today range from a high of $7.70 at 
      Hartsfield-Jackson to a low of $3.49 at Jackson County (19A). I, of 
      course, always buy at 19A. :)
      
      The cheapest premium grade gasoline in the area is $3.03. The price 
      difference between suspect premium gasoline and avgas is thus $3.49 - 
      3.03 = $0.46 per gallon. I fly about 100 hrs per year at about 5 gal 
      per hour. Using just this snapshot of data, the cost of the peace of 
      mind of avgas for a year's flying is 100 hrs x 5 gal/hr x 0.46 
      dollars/gal = $230. Even if the price difference was double, that 
      might be the best deal in aviation.
      
      But, like I said, I'm lucky. Not all of us even has access to avgas, 
      and many that do must pay much, much more for it. And like I said, I 
      wish we were all missing something here, some strategy or trick, but 
      I don't think we are.
      -- 
      
      Jeff Boatright
      "Now let's think about this..."
      
      
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| Subject:  | What must be done to invert a Ford Model A engine? | 
      
      
      I did a search on the site but didn't find much detailed information. Didn't find
      much information elsewhere on the web, either, though possibly I could with
      a diligent search.
      
      So, exactly what alterations must be performed to make a Ford Model A run reliably
      when inverted? Lubrication system, cooling system, carburetor/manifolds, etc.
      
      Attention, Pieti Lowell.....
      
      (Any relation? I'm from the northwest Illinois Franks.)
      
      --------
      Bill Frank
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=297088#297088
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: What must be done to invert a Ford Model A  	engine? | 
      
      I think you need to first turn it into a Model B engine, and then turn that
      into a Funk engine. The Model A has a mostly splash lubed crank, doesn't it?
      Hard to make that work when you turn it upside down. Do tell, why would you
      want to try that?
      
      Ryan
      
      On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 8:04 PM, Mild Bill <whfrank@charter.net> wrote:
      
      >
      > I did a search on the site but didn't find much detailed information.
      > Didn't find much information elsewhere on the web, either, though possibly I
      > could with a diligent search.
      >
      > So, exactly what alterations must be performed to make a Ford Model A run
      > reliably when inverted? Lubrication system, cooling system,
      > carburetor/manifolds, etc.
      >
      > Attention, Pieti Lowell.....
      >
      > (Any relation? I'm from the northwest Illinois Franks.)
      >
      > --------
      > Bill Frank
      >
      >
      > Read this topic online here:
      >
      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=297088#297088
      >
      >
      
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| Subject:  | Re: What must be done to invert a Ford Model A engine? | 
      
      
      I built the inverted B Ford block.( Funk ) In 1998. It is hangered at Palmyra WI.
      
      The basics are, Oil pump in the dist, spot. radiator is parallel to left side of
      block, with dampers to control temps.oil drains to oil sump on fire wall from
      the valve cover front and back locations.crank drilled to accept oil from mains.
      side mounted mag,water pump driven from rear pulley on crank, there is a
      1"hi ring that is anchored at each cylinder to slow oil flow into piston/rod area,6.25
      compression and alum. head.64 HP.
      There are a few other items that are required but it sure makes a faster, clean
      operating Pietenpol.
      The Funk Airplane used this engine in it's early models.
      Pieti Lowell
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=297092#297092
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Ethanol in Mogas-- more coming | 
      
      
      All stations in central NY are 10% ethanol.  Traveled in SW Colorado last week
      and all the stations I saw there were also 10%.
      
      --------
      Jon Coxwell  
      GN-1 Builder
      Recycle and preserve the planet
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=297097#297097
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Question regarding control surface travel | 
      
      
      I have a GN-1 but I think they are the same.  Don't have specs for ailerons but
      for the elevators up 20 deg.  down max. 30.  Rudder is left and right to within
      1" of touching the elevator edge with elevator at neutral position.
      
      --------
      Jon Coxwell  
      GN-1 Builder
      Recycle and preserve the planet
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=297098#297098
      
      
 
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