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1. 06:22 AM - Google! (Jim Markle)
2. 06:48 AM - Airleron cable turnbuckle locations (John Egan)
3. 07:11 AM - Peter's trim (Jeff Boatright)
4. 07:28 AM - Re: Pilot CG was Weight. (K5YAC)
5. 08:43 AM - Re: Clamps (Ken Howe)
6. 01:43 PM - Re: Airleron cable turnbuckle locations (Ben Charvet)
7. 02:15 PM - Re: Airleron cable turnbuckle locations - thanks (John Egan)
8. 02:53 PM - Re: Clamps (Clif Dawson)
9. 04:03 PM - Re: Peter's trim (Peter W Johnson)
10. 04:32 PM - Re: Peter's trim (Jeff Boatright)
11. 05:19 PM - Re: Peter's trim (Peter W Johnson)
12. 05:39 PM - Peter's Wiring Diagram (Gary Boothe)
13. 06:54 PM - Re: Airleron cable turnbuckle locations (gcardinal)
14. 08:41 PM - Re: Peter's trim (Kip and Beth Gardner)
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Peter,
I just noticed what looks to be a trim wheel on the right side of
your cockpit. Did your system work, and if so, do you have design
details at your website? I couldn't find anything.
Thanks,
Jeff
--
Jeff Boatright
"Now let's think about this..."
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| Subject: | Re: Pilot CG was Weight. |
Zing! -- Hey, wait a minute... I resemble that remark. [Shocked]
--------
Mark - working on wings
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=297261#297261
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I used 4" pipe because I needed a big enough opening to fit over the
1/2" capstrip, a gusset on each side, a 3/16" plywood caul (spreads the
pressure), and the 3/4" jig baseboard. I used oak dowels for the
handles, which I found at Home Despot. Use a hot glue gun to hold the
handles in position at the back side of the clamp. Pictures are
attached, one showing the clamp itself, and one that shows how they work
on my rib jig.
bcolleran wrote:
>
> So I have seen some folks using a circular clamp lately. Is it just a piece
of black pvc with a line cut in it? I saw some on cliff dawsons page and it sounds
like that is all he used. Any input would be great.
>
> Bill Colleran
> N424BK
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=297181#297181
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Airleron cable turnbuckle locations |
Just for simplicity sake I put all my turnbuckles on the aileron
bellcranks. The crossover cable joins in the center with a clevis. I
put my joint in the center, but it would have been better closer to one
side (easier to assemble). The upper cables are one-piece from the
aileron to the control stick. This makes it necessary to remove the
pulleys on the center section to assemble the wing, but it wasn't a big
deal for my setup. All this needs to be done before you cover the
wings, then it goes pretty smoothly when it comes time for final
assembly. There are other ways it could be done with less turnbuckles,
I suppose, but I got a good deal on a bunch of them from B&B, around
$7.50 each, which is cheaper than a clevis.
Ben Charvet
Mims, Fl
On 5/10/2010 9:45 AM, John Egan wrote:
> Builders,
> Regarding the fabrication of cables and location of turnbuckles for
> the aileron cables running to the control stick:
> 1. Have you guys found that having a two piece cable, where it breaks
> at the root of the wing assists in assembly and dismantling of the
> wings where it warrents doing it?
> 2. If so, do you use clevises to make a splice (as Bengilis), or
> place the turnbuckle in between the wing and the center section which
> can be used for the splice and for tensioning?
> 3. Regardless of assembly, is there any advantage or disadvantage in
> having the turnbuckle in the wing instead of at the control stick?
> Thank you all. I think I'll go with the proven majority on this one.
> I appreciate your help.
> john egan
> greenville, wi
>
> *
>
>
> *
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| Subject: | Re: Airleron cable turnbuckle locations - thanks |
Thank you Ben,=0A=0AI understand exactly what you did.- Thanks for the in
formation.- I guess the important thing to do is to keep it simple, light
and be able to inspect them.=0A=0Ado not archive=0A=0Ajohn=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A_
_______________________________=0AFrom: Ben Charvet <bcharvet@bellsouth.net
>=0ATo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Mon, May 10, 2010 3:18:34 PM
=0ASubject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Airleron cable turnbuckle locations=0A=0AJu
st for simplicity sake I put all my turnbuckles on the aileron bellcranks.
- The crossover cable joins in the center with a clevis.- I put my join
t in the center, but it would have been better closer to one side (easier t
o assemble).- The upper cables are one-piece from the aileron to the cont
rol stick.- This makes it necessary to remove the pulleys on the center s
ection to assemble the wing, but it wasn't a big deal for my setup.- All
this needs to be done before you cover the wings, then it goes pretty smoot
hly when it comes time for final assembly.- There are other ways it could
be done with less turnbuckles, I suppose, but I got a good deal on a bunch
of them from B&B, around $7.50 each, which is cheaper than a clevis.=0A=0A
Ben Charvet=0AMims, Fl=0AOn 5/10/2010 9:45 AM, John Egan wrote: =0ABuilders
,=0A>=0A>Regarding the fabrication of cables-and location of turnbuckles
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Yep, that looks good. I put my handles through to the
split side. Definitely put handles on the things. It
makes a world of difference!
Clif
>
> http://www.sportaviationonline.org/sportaviation/201005#pg84
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Jeff,
Yes the trim system did work quite well.
I originally had a lever in its place to tension the cables on the elevator
horn but couldn't get enough travel. I came up with the idea of wrapping the
cables round a piece of pvc tube suitably mounted on the fuse side.
http://www.cpc-world.com/new_card_images/images/IMG_0710_JPG.jpg shows the
concept.
I don't have much else in the way of design details. A bit of a "back of a
fag (cigarette) packet" design.
Cheers
Peter
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeff
Boatright
Sent: Tuesday, 11 May 2010 12:10 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Peter's trim
Peter,
I just noticed what looks to be a trim wheel on the right side of
your cockpit. Did your system work, and if so, do you have design
details at your website? I couldn't find anything.
Thanks,
Jeff
--
Jeff Boatright
"Now let's think about this..."
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Peter,
I poked around and found several more photos on your site showing how
the cable that wraps around the trim wheel attach to the Big Bell
Crank behind the pilot's seat. I feel like the SECOND guy who
invented the zipper. Your design and implementation are nearly
exactly how I envisioned a trim system, which is to say, I was still
at the "back of a fag packet" stage until you told me that your
system works. Now that I hear it will work, I'm Oh-ficially at the
"build it" stage.
Thanks,
Jeff
><vk3eka@bigpond.net.au>
>
>Jeff,
>
>Yes the trim system did work quite well.
>
>I originally had a lever in its place to tension the cables on the elevator
>horn but couldn't get enough travel. I came up with the idea of wrapping the
>cables round a piece of pvc tube suitably mounted on the fuse side.
>
>http://www.cpc-world.com/new_card_images/images/IMG_0710_JPG.jpg shows the
>concept.
>
>I don't have much else in the way of design details. A bit of a "back of a
>fag (cigarette) packet" design.
>
>Cheers
>
>Peter
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeff
>Boatright
>Sent: Tuesday, 11 May 2010 12:10 AM
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com; vk3eka@bigpond.net.au
>Subject: Pietenpol-List: Peter's trim
>
>
>Peter,
>
>I just noticed what looks to be a trim wheel on the right side of
>your cockpit. Did your system work, and if so, do you have design
>details at your website? I couldn't find anything.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Jeff
>--
>
>Jeff Boatright
>"Now let's think about this..."
>
>
--
---
Jeffrey H. Boatright, Ph.D.
Associate Professor of Ophthalmology
Emory University School of Medicine
Editor-in-Chief
Molecular Vision
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Jeff,
Nice to see the pictures are useful. Maybe I should patent the "fag packet";
although I'm sure it already is :-)
Cheers
Peter
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeff
Boatright
Sent: Tuesday, 11 May 2010 9:29 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Peter's trim
Peter,
I poked around and found several more photos on your site showing how
the cable that wraps around the trim wheel attach to the Big Bell
Crank behind the pilot's seat. I feel like the SECOND guy who
invented the zipper. Your design and implementation are nearly
exactly how I envisioned a trim system, which is to say, I was still
at the "back of a fag packet" stage until you told me that your
system works. Now that I hear it will work, I'm Oh-ficially at the
"build it" stage.
Thanks,
Jeff
><vk3eka@bigpond.net.au>
>
>Jeff,
>
>Yes the trim system did work quite well.
>
>I originally had a lever in its place to tension the cables on the elevator
>horn but couldn't get enough travel. I came up with the idea of wrapping
the
>cables round a piece of pvc tube suitably mounted on the fuse side.
>
>http://www.cpc-world.com/new_card_images/images/IMG_0710_JPG.jpg shows the
>concept.
>
>I don't have much else in the way of design details. A bit of a "back of a
>fag (cigarette) packet" design.
>
>Cheers
>
>Peter
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeff
>Boatright
>Sent: Tuesday, 11 May 2010 12:10 AM
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com; vk3eka@bigpond.net.au
>Subject: Pietenpol-List: Peter's trim
>
>
>Peter,
>
>I just noticed what looks to be a trim wheel on the right side of
>your cockpit. Did your system work, and if so, do you have design
>details at your website? I couldn't find anything.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Jeff
>--
>
>Jeff Boatright
>"Now let's think about this..."
>
>
--
---
Jeffrey H. Boatright, Ph.D.
Associate Professor of Ophthalmology
Emory University School of Medicine
Editor-in-Chief
Molecular Vision
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| Subject: | Peter's Wiring Diagram |
Peter,
I would also like to compliment you on your wiring diagram. I was just about
ready to post a request for info, but decided to check the archives, first,
and found an old post! Hope you don't mind that I have regurgitated it here.
I was looking for something simple...no lights, no radios, no glass panel,
no GPS, no night terrain following.....
Gary Boothe
Cool, Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion, mounted
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
(18 ribs down.)
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Peter W
Johnson
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 5:15 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Peter's trim
<vk3eka@bigpond.net.au>
Jeff,
Nice to see the pictures are useful. Maybe I should patent the "fag packet";
although I'm sure it already is :-)
Cheers
Peter
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeff
Boatright
Sent: Tuesday, 11 May 2010 9:29 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Peter's trim
Peter,
I poked around and found several more photos on your site showing how
the cable that wraps around the trim wheel attach to the Big Bell
Crank behind the pilot's seat. I feel like the SECOND guy who
invented the zipper. Your design and implementation are nearly
exactly how I envisioned a trim system, which is to say, I was still
at the "back of a fag packet" stage until you told me that your
system works. Now that I hear it will work, I'm Oh-ficially at the
"build it" stage.
Thanks,
Jeff
><vk3eka@bigpond.net.au>
>
>Jeff,
>
>Yes the trim system did work quite well.
>
>I originally had a lever in its place to tension the cables on the elevator
>horn but couldn't get enough travel. I came up with the idea of wrapping
the
>cables round a piece of pvc tube suitably mounted on the fuse side.
>
>http://www.cpc-world.com/new_card_images/images/IMG_0710_JPG.jpg shows the
>concept.
>
>I don't have much else in the way of design details. A bit of a "back of a
>fag (cigarette) packet" design.
>
>Cheers
>
>Peter
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeff
>Boatright
>Sent: Tuesday, 11 May 2010 12:10 AM
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com; vk3eka@bigpond.net.au
>Subject: Pietenpol-List: Peter's trim
>
>
>Peter,
>
>I just noticed what looks to be a trim wheel on the right side of
>your cockpit. Did your system work, and if so, do you have design
>details at your website? I couldn't find anything.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Jeff
>--
>
>Jeff Boatright
>"Now let's think about this..."
>
>
--
---
Jeffrey H. Boatright, Ph.D.
Associate Professor of Ophthalmology
Emory University School of Medicine
Editor-in-Chief
Molecular Vision
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| Subject: | Re: Airleron cable turnbuckle locations |
John,
On NX18235 the aileron cables are one piece with the turnbuckles located
in the cockpit at the torque-tube control horn.
Pulleys in the center-section need to be disassembled to remove the
cables in the rare event of removing the wings.
Greg Cardinal
----- Original Message -----
From: John Egan
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 8:45 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Airleron cable turnbuckle locations
Builders,
Regarding the fabrication of cables and location of turnbuckles for
the aileron cables running to the control stick:
1. Have you guys found that having a two piece cable, where it breaks
at the root of the wing assists in assembly and dismantling of the wings
where it warrents doing it?
2. If so, do you use clevises to make a splice (as Bengilis), or
place the turnbuckle in between the wing and the center section which
can be used for the splice and for tensioning?
3. Regardless of assembly, is there any advantage or disadvantage in
having the turnbuckle in the wing instead of at the control stick?
Thank you all. I think I'll go with the proven majority on this one.
I appreciate your help.
john egan
greenville, wi
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| Subject: | Re: Peter's trim |
Peter,
Very nice - neat & simple - keep smoking :).
Kip Gardner
On May 10, 2010, at 6:58 PM, Peter W Johnson wrote:
> <vk3eka@bigpond.net.au>
>
> Jeff,
>
> Yes the trim system did work quite well.
>
> I originally had a lever in its place to tension the cables on the
> elevator
> horn but couldn't get enough travel. I came up with the idea of
> wrapping the
> cables round a piece of pvc tube suitably mounted on the fuse side.
>
> http://www.cpc-world.com/new_card_images/images/IMG_0710_JPG.jpg
> shows the
> concept.
>
> I don't have much else in the way of design details. A bit of a
> "back of a
> fag (cigarette) packet" design.
>
> Cheers
>
> Peter
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeff
> Boatright
> Sent: Tuesday, 11 May 2010 12:10 AM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com; vk3eka@bigpond.net.au
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Peter's trim
>
> <jboatri@emory.edu>
>
> Peter,
>
> I just noticed what looks to be a trim wheel on the right side of
> your cockpit. Did your system work, and if so, do you have design
> details at your website? I couldn't find anything.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jeff
> --
>
> Jeff Boatright
> "Now let's think about this..."
>
>
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