---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 05/15/10: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:42 AM - Re: fuse construction (Jack) 2. 07:46 AM - Re: fuse construction (Dan Yocum) 3. 08:18 AM - Pietenpole for sale (Tom Stinemetze) 4. 09:31 AM - Re: fuse construction (Michael Perez) 5. 10:11 AM - Re: fuse construction (Tim Willis) 6. 01:59 PM - Re: Re: fuse construction (Jack) 7. 04:05 PM - Stromberg NA-S3A1 carb (Oscar Zuniga) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:42:58 AM PST US From: "Jack" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: fuse construction Yes, but you might want to wait until you install the ash cross-piece. That way the gusset can be cut or formed around the cross-piece. My site www.textors.com has some pictures. Jack DSM I'm getting ready to put one side of the fuse together and I noticed that there's no gusset on the second member, on the bottom. (extended fuse)Should I put one there? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=297731#297731 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:46:43 AM PST US From: Dan Yocum Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: fuse construction Jack, Wasn't this topic recently discussed? The gusset shouldn't be notch out to fit around the ash crosspiece - the strength comes from the gussets and if you cut a section of it out, you lose a lot of the strength. It's OK to butt the crosspiece up to the gusset. Dan On 05/15/2010 06:42 AM, Jack wrote: > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Jack" > > Yes, but you might want to wait until you install the ash cross-piece. That > way the gusset can be cut or formed around the cross-piece. My site > www.textors.com has some pictures. > Jack > DSM > > > I'm getting ready to put one side of the fuse together and I noticed that > there's no gusset on the second member, on the bottom. (extended > fuse)Should I put one there? > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=297731#297731 > > -- Dan Yocum Fermilab 630.840.6509 yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things." ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:18:21 AM PST US From: "Tom Stinemetze" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpole for sale Gentlemen: I just received this notice for posting on our EAA Chapter website. Since one of the planes is a Pietenpol Air Camper with a Cont. A65 I thought I should share it with you as well. Tom Stinemetze AIRPLANE SALE JUNE 5, 2010 10am - 4pm 12353 Hwy 59, Oskaloosa, KS 4 project planes 1948 Cessna 140 with Cont. 85 1968 Pitts S1-C w/ Lycoming 0320 1986 Pietenpol Air Camper w/ Cont. 65 1957 Cassut - no engine The planes have not been inspected for over 5 years. Best offer of the day on each plane gets the sale. (There will be a reserve on each one. The court won't let me give them away.) The planes may be viewed the 2 days preceding the sale or by appointment. Planes may be ferried out that day or picked up the next day. Lots of other stuff - engines, engine mounts, engine casings, struts, props, tail feathers, tools, and much more Also 50 acres with private airstrip, 40' by 60" hanger with a 3 bedroom house that needs work For more information or pictures contact: Barb Frank - 816-285-3072 weekdays 816-455-4672 evenings and weekends b.frank@stonemfg.net ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:31:44 AM PST US From: Michael Perez Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: fuse construction I agree, gussets should be left in tact. At the ash location along the bott om, it butts up against the side fuselage gussets. The floor helps hold it all together as well. - On a side note, I am about 80% done with HINT Video #5 FUSELAGE. It looks l ike it will be a little over 2 hours long. If you could wait another week o r so, it will be available for sale and it may just help you with your work .. - I am also working on posting some pictures on my site as well...for those o f you who would be interested. - www.karetakeraero.com - ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 10:11:30 AM PST US From: Tim Willis Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: fuse construction Jack, I just wanted to thank you for the nice detailed pix on your site. They bring very well some of the orthogons and fittings to life-- from blueprint to hardware, and their interstices. Very nice wood and metal work, too. Tim in central TX do not archive -----Original Message----- >From: Jack >Sent: May 15, 2010 7:42 AM >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: fuse construction > > >Yes, but you might want to wait until you install the ash cross-piece. That >way the gusset can be cut or formed around the cross-piece. My site >www.textors.com has some pictures. >Jack >DSM > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 01:59:15 PM PST US From: "Jack" Subject: RE: RE: Pietenpol-List: fuse construction Thanks for the kind words Tim. Some people cut out the gusset and others don't. After looking again I actually didn't cut it out. Tony Bingelis says both work. With the outside ply glued it's plenty strong. Jack DSM -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Willis Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2010 12:11 PM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: fuse construction Jack, I just wanted to thank you for the nice detailed pix on your site. They bring very well some of the orthogons and fittings to life-- from blueprint to hardware, and their interstices. Very nice wood and metal work, too. Tim in central TX do not archive -----Original Message----- >From: Jack >Sent: May 15, 2010 7:42 AM >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: fuse construction > > >Yes, but you might want to wait until you install the ash cross-piece. That >way the gusset can be cut or formed around the cross-piece. My site >www.textors.com has some pictures. >Jack >DSM > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 04:05:58 PM PST US From: Oscar Zuniga Subject: Pietenpol-List: Stromberg NA-S3A1 carb Raymond wrote: >I also wonder whether my old Stromberg carb DJ installed >has been modified for higher flow. I think that I read >somewhere they could be increased some way maybe with a >different venturi for larger engines than the A-65. >Anybody know how to tell by looking? You have to pull the venturi out of the carb and it will have the throat diameter cast into the side. Or you can use an inside caliper. Pulling the venturi means taking the carb apart. If you go here: http://www.bowersflybaby.com, you'll find the best resource available for small Continental engines and their carbs. On that page you'll find a link to the parts interchangeability for the small engines and you'll see that the C85 and C90 use a 1-3/8" venturi while the A65 uses a 1-1/4" and the 75 uses a 1-5/16" (both of those are too small for the O-145 Corvair). There are also differences in the main jet. If I had to guess, I'd say DJ probably knew this and provided the proper venturi, but all it means if he didn't is that you may not develop full static RPM without changing the venturi. >it does leak bad if you put car gas in it. though only drips >when 100LL is in it. My experience with these carbs has been similar. Exactly my experience. You can run both fuels in them, but if you set it up properly for one fuel, it won't be right for the other except when the engine is running. I run mine exclusively on 100LL. There is a very simple little metal gauge that you can make to set the float bowl fuel level so the carb won't drip; that info is also on the Fly Baby site. I set mine using that tool and have had zero problems with it since then. >I am wondering if that heavy looking brass float just doesn't >float well enough in this sorry excuse for car gas these days. Like I said, if you set it up for auto gas, it won't be right for avgas and vice-versa. Set it up for one or the other. The viscosity and some other characteristics are just different enough to cause the carb to drool if you set it up for avgas and then run auto gas in it. The engine doesn't mind, but like you say- shut off the fuel when the airplane is sitting, run the float bowl dry when you shut the engine down, and when you turn on the fuel, be ready to start the engine or you'll start seeing fuel in the carb intake air box. Oscar Zuniga Air Camper NX41CC San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message pietenpol-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pietenpol-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/pietenpol-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.