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     1. 04:19 AM - Countdown to Brodhead (helspersew@aol.com)
     2. 05:31 AM - Re: Countdown to Brodhead (Bill Church)
     3. 05:36 AM - Re: Countdown to Brodhead (Dan Yocum)
     4. 05:42 AM - washers (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation])
     5. 06:11 AM - Re: Re: 100 Report NX899KP (Tim Willis)
     6. 06:11 AM - Re: washers ()
     7. 10:05 AM - Re: washers (Allan Macklem)
     8. 02:10 PM - California Pietenpol Gathering (Michael Groah)
     9. 04:24 PM - lost piet builder? (Lawrence Williams)
    10. 06:10 PM - Re: Countdown to Brodhead (Jerry Dotson)
    11. 06:18 PM - Washers (helspersew@aol.com)
    12. 06:20 PM - horiz stab capstrip question (bcolleran)
    13. 06:26 PM - Re: Was Washers, now "Dan's Secret Color" (Tim Willis)
    14. 06:44 PM - Re: lost piet builder? (Dan Yocum)
    15. 06:49 PM - prop for 0200 (Douwe Blumberg)
    16. 07:50 PM - Re: horiz stab capstrip question (gcardinal)
    17. 07:59 PM - Re: horiz stab capstrip question (Ben Charvet)
    18. 08:24 PM - Re: horiz stab capstrip question (Rick Holland)
    19. 08:42 PM - Re: horiz stab capstrip question (Jim)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | Countdown to Brodhead | 
      
      
      Last night's progress:
      
      Removed new, uninteresting modern-design ACS primer. Installed cool-lookin
      g antique Lunkenheimer primer that I found on Ebay. Installed front cockpi
      t cowl, and started lacing "distressed" leathercockpit coaming perimeter
       padding. Got it half laced.
      
      I want to use thin washers under all the metal cowl hold-on screws. All th
      e washers I have seen are too large in diameter and looks stupid because
       it extends out past the head of the screw. Does anyone know where I can
       find #8 washers that are less than 3/8" O.D.? 
      
      Dan Helsper
      Poplar Grove, IL.
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Countdown to Brodhead | 
      
      
      Dan,
      
      3/8" is pretty much the standard size for a #8 screw, but it looks like McMaster
      Carr carries some smaller washers:
      
      http://www.mcmaster.com/#washers/=7544va
      
      Bill C.
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=298047#298047
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Countdown to Brodhead | 
      
      
      Hi Dan,
      
      On 05/18/2010 06:18 AM, helspersew@aol.com wrote:
      > Last night's progress:
      > Removed new, uninteresting modern-design ACS primer. Installed
      > cool-looking antique Lunkenheimer primer that I found on Ebay. Installed
      > front cockpit cowl, and started lacing "distressed" leathercockpit
      > coaming perimeter padding. Got it half laced.
      > I want to use thin washers under all the metal cowl hold-on screws. All
      > the washers I have seen are too large in diameter and looks stupid
      > because it extends out past the head of the screw. Does anyone know
      > where I can find #8 washers that are less than 3/8" O.D.?
      
      McMaster-Carr to the rescue:
      
      http://www.mcmaster.com/#washers/=7542hw
      
      Follow the trail: washers -> round hole -> for screw size [8] -> Outside 
      Diameter Range [.25" to .399"] -> take your pick of Outside Diameter = 
      [.28", .31", .313", or .375"]
      
      Cheers,
      Dan
      
      
      -- 
      Dan Yocum
      Fermilab  630.840.6509
      yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
      "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
      
      
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      Dan, I used nylon washers under my cowling screws for whatever size you need thru
      ACS, Wicks, 
      or Dillsburg Aero.    
      
      The nylon washers don't mar your paint and are lighter than steel washers. 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: 100 Report NX899KP | 
      
      
      Kevin,
      Thanks for sharing your progress report and flying specs.  The specs (speeds, etc.)
      are educational; the flying hours and passengers data, esp. Young Eagles,
      are inspirational.  As you said, you have been flyng most every day with enough
      daylight and good weather.  Keep it up.
      Tim in central TX
      do not archive  
      
      
      -----Original Message-----
      >From: kevinpurtee <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
      >Sent: May 17, 2010 9:56 PM
      >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
      >Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: 100 Report NX899KP
      >
      >
      >The prop is a 68" warp drive.  I tried decreasing the pitch.  The static went
      up ~150 rpm.  Gave me a slightly improved climb, slower top speed and more fuel
      burn (all to be expected).  I put it back the way it was.  I could probably
      try to increase the pitch and improve that top speed but it flies so darn good
      now I'm reluctant to change it.  Given my short legs it doesn't matter too much
      anyway.  (You know, if I hadn't verified that my airspeed indicator reads 10%
      high,I could lie about the top speed in good conscious...)
      >
      >I don't have gap seals on the elevators.  The tail comes up really quick just
      the way it is.
      >
      >Kevin
      >
      ><clip>
      
      
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      Also available at Airparts of K.C.
      ---- "Cuy wrote: 
      > 
      > Dan, I used nylon washers under my cowling screws for whatever size you need
      thru ACS, Wicks, 
      > or Dillsburg Aero.    
      > 
      > The nylon washers don't mar your paint and are lighter than steel washers. 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      
      --
      Lynn
      
      
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| Subject:  | California Pietenpol Gathering | 
      
      Hello everyone,  
      
      It's now just two and a half weeks away from 
      the Pietenpol gathering at Frazier Lake California (a nice grass strip).   I just
      thought I'd send out a reminder and get people thinking about it again.  If
      you've said you're coming then I already have that in my notes.  If you're coming
      and you 
      haven't let Charlie or myself know, then please do.  It's not mandatory 
      that you let us know you're coming, but it would be nice for planning 
      purposes.  Charlie Miller (our host) and my phone numbers are also on the info
      sheet; see 
      attached pdf file.  I'm looking forward to seeing others who are crazy about Pietenpols.
      Bring your Pietenpol, or construction photo album to share with everyone!
      
      
      
      Mike Groah
      
      Do Not Archive
      
      
            
      
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| Subject:  | lost piet builder? | 
      
      I've lost track of a man that I visited a number of years ago in his shop. As near
      as I remember it was about 2000-2002. 
      His name is Lou Larson and he lived in Tavares, FL.
      
      He had an "A" and was getting ready to cover when I visited him. Anyone know Lou???
      
      Larry W.
      
      
      '
      
      
            
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Countdown to Brodhead | 
      
      
      Dan these people have a good selection of small parts. I have quite a stock from
      my modeling days. My Piet has already got some on it. Very reasonable prices
      too.
      
      --------
      Jerry Dotson
      59 Daniel Johnson Rd
      Baker, FL 32531
      
      Started building  NX510JD  July, 2009
      Ribs and tailfeathers done
      using Lycoming O-235
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=298125#298125
      
      
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      Hi all,
      
      Thanks to everybody that gave me leads on washers for my cowling. I was ab
      le to find some that I think will work. It was tricky, cause they had to
       be black.....................oops..............I think I may have just gi
      ven something away. Darn!!
      
      Dan Helsper
      Poplar Grove, IL.
      
      
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| Subject:  | horiz stab capstrip question | 
      
      
      Ok guys I made my gussets on my horizontal stab too big!  yes there is such a thing.
      Now my capstrip placement is off.  If I place the capstrip where it belongs
      as evenly placed I go right over my capstrip.  I have attached a picture.
      I am thinking about just moving the capstrip placement 1" to it's planned placement.
      What are your thoughts?  Little embarrassed I didn't lay it all out,
      but I guess that is what learning is for!
      
      Thanks,
      
      Bill
      N424BK
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=298128#298128
      
      
      Attachments: 
      
      http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_0502_166.jpg
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Was Washers, now "Dan's Secret Color" | 
      
      
      From: Tim Willis 
      Sent: May 18, 2010 8:24 PM 
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Washers 
      
      
      Black as the night, swooping in response to the iconic signal in the sky, "Holy
      Utility Belt, Batman, it's the BatPlane!"
      do not archive
      
      -----Original Message----- 
      From: helspersew@aol.com 
      Sent: May 18, 2010 8:16 PM 
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Washers 
      
      Hi all,
      
      Thanks to everybody that gave me leads on washers for my cowling. I was able to
      find some that I think will work. It was tricky, cause they had to be black.....................oops..............I
      think I may have just given something away.
      Darn!!
      
      Dan Helsper
      Poplar Grove, IL.
      
      
      <clip>
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: lost piet builder? | 
      
      
      Hi Larry,
      
      http://www.whitepages.com comes up with a couple suggestions:
      
      Lewis C Larson
      415 Turkey Run
      Winter Park, FL
      No phone number given
      
      Laurits M Larsen
      29248 David Ct
      Tavares, Fl
      (352) 343-2621
      
      Cheers,
      Dan
      
      
      On 05/18/2010 06:20 PM, Lawrence Williams wrote:
      > I've lost track of a man that I visited a number of years ago in his
      > shop. As near as I remember it was about 2000-2002.
      > His name is Lou Larson and he lived in Tavares, FL.
      >
      > He had an "A" and was getting ready to cover when I visited him. Anyone
      > know Lou???
      >
      > Larry W.
      >
      >
      > '
      >
      > *
      >
      >
      > *
      
      -- 
      Dan Yocum
      Fermilab  630.840.6509
      yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
      "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
      
      
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      If anyone has real world experience with an 0200 in a Piet, I'd appreciate
      any prop suggestions.
      
      I know of two flying with Cessna 150 props, mostly because it was easier to
      get insurance using the prop the engine was certified for.  And I know of
      one that flew a while ago using a 76X34.
      
      Thanks
      
      Douwe
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: horiz stab capstrip question | 
      
      
      Moving the capstrip 1 inch won't be a problem.
      
      Greg Cardinal
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "bcolleran" <bcolleran@comcast.net>
      Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 8:20 PM
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: horiz stab capstrip question
      
      
      >
      > Ok guys I made my gussets on my horizontal stab too big!  yes there is 
      > such a thing.  Now my capstrip placement is off.  If I place the capstrip 
      > where it belongs as evenly placed I go right over my capstrip.  I have 
      > attached a picture.  I am thinking about just moving the capstrip 
      > placement 1" to it's planned placement.  What are your thoughts?  Little 
      > embarrassed I didn't lay it all out, but I guess that is what learning is 
      > for!
      >
      > Thanks,
      >
      > Bill
      > N424BK
      >
      >
      > Read this topic online here:
      >
      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=298128#298128
      >
      >
      > Attachments:
      >
      > http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_0502_166.jpg
      >
      >
      > 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: horiz stab capstrip question | 
      
      
      Thats one of those things that happen and nobody knows but you, except 
      now you told us...
      
      Ben Charvet
      >
      >
      >> <bcolleran@comcast.net>
      >>
      >> Ok guys I made my gussets on my horizontal stab too big!  yes there 
      >> is such a thing.  Now my capstrip placement is off.  If I place the 
      >> capstrip where it belongs as evenly placed I go right over my 
      >> capstrip.  I have attached a picture.  I am thinking about just 
      >> moving the capstrip placement 1" to it's planned placement.  What are 
      >> your thoughts?  Little embarrassed I didn't lay it all out, but I 
      >> guess that is what learning is for!
      >>
      >> Thanks,
      >>
      >> Bill
      >> N424BK
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >> Read this topic online here:
      >>
      >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=298128#298128
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >> Attachments:
      >>
      >> http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_0502_166.jpg
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >
      >
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: horiz stab capstrip question | 
      
      Bill, don't tell anybody but one of the capstrips in my vertical fin is an
      inch below the capstrip in my rudder where they are supposed to be aligned.
      
      rick
      
      On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 8:59 PM, Ben Charvet <bcharvet@bellsouth.net> wrote:
      
      >
      > Thats one of those things that happen and nobody knows but you, except now
      > you told us...
      >
      > Ben Charvet
      >
      >
      >>
      >>> >
      >>>
      >>> Ok guys I made my gussets on my horizontal stab too big!  yes there is
      >>> such a thing.  Now my capstrip placement is off.  If I place the capstrip
      >>> where it belongs as evenly placed I go right over my capstrip.  I have
      >>> attached a picture.  I am thinking about just moving the capstrip placement
      >>> 1" to it's planned placement.  What are your thoughts?  Little embarrassed
      I
      >>> didn't lay it all out, but I guess that is what learning is for!
      >>>
      >>> Thanks,
      >>>
      >>> Bill
      >>> N424BK
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>> Read this topic online here:
      >>>
      >>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=298128#298128
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>> Attachments:
      >>>
      >>> http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_0502_166.jpg
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >
      >
      
      
      -- 
      Rick Holland
      Castle Rock, Colorado
      
      "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"
      
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| Subject:  | Re: horiz stab capstrip question | 
      
      
      
      Just move the capstrip/rib. Once covered it will never be seen and never cause
      a problem.
      Jim
      
      Jim Boyer
      Santa Rosa, CA
      Pietenpol on wheels
      Tail surfaces done
      Wing ribs done
      Corvair engine
      
      
      On May 18, 2010, bcolleran <bcolleran@comcast.net> wrote: 
      
      
      Ok guys I made my gussets on my horizontal stab too big!  yes there is such a thing.
      Now my capstrip placement is off.  If I place the capstrip where it belongs
      as evenly placed I go right over my capstrip.  I have attached a picture.
      I am thinking about just moving the capstrip placement 1" to it's planned placement.
      What are your thoughts?  Little embarrassed I didn't lay it all out,
      but I guess that is what learning is for!
      
      Thanks,
      
      Bill
      N424BK
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=298128#298128
      
      
      Attachments: 
      
      http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_0502_166.jpg
      
      
 
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