---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 05/18/10: 19 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:19 AM - Countdown to Brodhead (helspersew@aol.com) 2. 05:31 AM - Re: Countdown to Brodhead (Bill Church) 3. 05:36 AM - Re: Countdown to Brodhead (Dan Yocum) 4. 05:42 AM - washers (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]) 5. 06:11 AM - Re: Re: 100 Report NX899KP (Tim Willis) 6. 06:11 AM - Re: washers () 7. 10:05 AM - Re: washers (Allan Macklem) 8. 02:10 PM - California Pietenpol Gathering (Michael Groah) 9. 04:24 PM - lost piet builder? (Lawrence Williams) 10. 06:10 PM - Re: Countdown to Brodhead (Jerry Dotson) 11. 06:18 PM - Washers (helspersew@aol.com) 12. 06:20 PM - horiz stab capstrip question (bcolleran) 13. 06:26 PM - Re: Was Washers, now "Dan's Secret Color" (Tim Willis) 14. 06:44 PM - Re: lost piet builder? (Dan Yocum) 15. 06:49 PM - prop for 0200 (Douwe Blumberg) 16. 07:50 PM - Re: horiz stab capstrip question (gcardinal) 17. 07:59 PM - Re: horiz stab capstrip question (Ben Charvet) 18. 08:24 PM - Re: horiz stab capstrip question (Rick Holland) 19. 08:42 PM - Re: horiz stab capstrip question (Jim) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:19:25 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Countdown to Brodhead From: helspersew@aol.com Last night's progress: Removed new, uninteresting modern-design ACS primer. Installed cool-lookin g antique Lunkenheimer primer that I found on Ebay. Installed front cockpi t cowl, and started lacing "distressed" leathercockpit coaming perimeter padding. Got it half laced. I want to use thin washers under all the metal cowl hold-on screws. All th e washers I have seen are too large in diameter and looks stupid because it extends out past the head of the screw. Does anyone know where I can find #8 washers that are less than 3/8" O.D.? Dan Helsper Poplar Grove, IL. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:31:18 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Countdown to Brodhead From: "Bill Church" Dan, 3/8" is pretty much the standard size for a #8 screw, but it looks like McMaster Carr carries some smaller washers: http://www.mcmaster.com/#washers/=7544va Bill C. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=298047#298047 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:36:14 AM PST US From: Dan Yocum Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Countdown to Brodhead Hi Dan, On 05/18/2010 06:18 AM, helspersew@aol.com wrote: > Last night's progress: > Removed new, uninteresting modern-design ACS primer. Installed > cool-looking antique Lunkenheimer primer that I found on Ebay. Installed > front cockpit cowl, and started lacing "distressed" leathercockpit > coaming perimeter padding. Got it half laced. > I want to use thin washers under all the metal cowl hold-on screws. All > the washers I have seen are too large in diameter and looks stupid > because it extends out past the head of the screw. Does anyone know > where I can find #8 washers that are less than 3/8" O.D.? McMaster-Carr to the rescue: http://www.mcmaster.com/#washers/=7542hw Follow the trail: washers -> round hole -> for screw size [8] -> Outside Diameter Range [.25" to .399"] -> take your pick of Outside Diameter = [.28", .31", .313", or .375"] Cheers, Dan -- Dan Yocum Fermilab 630.840.6509 yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things." ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:42:44 AM PST US From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]" Subject: Pietenpol-List: washers Dan, I used nylon washers under my cowling screws for whatever size you need thru ACS, Wicks, or Dillsburg Aero. The nylon washers don't mar your paint and are lighter than steel washers. ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:11:29 AM PST US From: Tim Willis Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: 100 Report NX899KP Kevin, Thanks for sharing your progress report and flying specs. The specs (speeds, etc.) are educational; the flying hours and passengers data, esp. Young Eagles, are inspirational. As you said, you have been flyng most every day with enough daylight and good weather. Keep it up. Tim in central TX do not archive -----Original Message----- >From: kevinpurtee >Sent: May 17, 2010 9:56 PM >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: 100 Report NX899KP > > >The prop is a 68" warp drive. I tried decreasing the pitch. The static went up ~150 rpm. Gave me a slightly improved climb, slower top speed and more fuel burn (all to be expected). I put it back the way it was. I could probably try to increase the pitch and improve that top speed but it flies so darn good now I'm reluctant to change it. Given my short legs it doesn't matter too much anyway. (You know, if I hadn't verified that my airspeed indicator reads 10% high,I could lie about the top speed in good conscious...) > >I don't have gap seals on the elevators. The tail comes up really quick just the way it is. > >Kevin > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:11:30 AM PST US From: Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: washers Also available at Airparts of K.C. ---- "Cuy wrote: > > Dan, I used nylon washers under my cowling screws for whatever size you need thru ACS, Wicks, > or Dillsburg Aero. > > The nylon washers don't mar your paint and are lighter than steel washers. > > > > > > > > -- Lynn ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 10:05:16 AM PST US From: "Allan Macklem" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: washers ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 02:10:22 PM PST US From: Michael Groah Subject: Pietenpol-List: California Pietenpol Gathering Hello everyone, It's now just two and a half weeks away from the Pietenpol gathering at Frazier Lake California (a nice grass strip). I just thought I'd send out a reminder and get people thinking about it again. If you've said you're coming then I already have that in my notes. If you're coming and you haven't let Charlie or myself know, then please do. It's not mandatory that you let us know you're coming, but it would be nice for planning purposes. Charlie Miller (our host) and my phone numbers are also on the info sheet; see attached pdf file. I'm looking forward to seeing others who are crazy about Pietenpols. Bring your Pietenpol, or construction photo album to share with everyone! Mike Groah Do Not Archive ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 04:24:09 PM PST US From: Lawrence Williams Subject: Pietenpol-List: lost piet builder? I've lost track of a man that I visited a number of years ago in his shop. As near as I remember it was about 2000-2002. His name is Lou Larson and he lived in Tavares, FL. He had an "A" and was getting ready to cover when I visited him. Anyone know Lou??? Larry W. ' ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 06:10:34 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Countdown to Brodhead From: "Jerry Dotson" Dan these people have a good selection of small parts. I have quite a stock from my modeling days. My Piet has already got some on it. Very reasonable prices too. -------- Jerry Dotson 59 Daniel Johnson Rd Baker, FL 32531 Started building NX510JD July, 2009 Ribs and tailfeathers done using Lycoming O-235 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=298125#298125 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 06:18:12 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Washers From: helspersew@aol.com Hi all, Thanks to everybody that gave me leads on washers for my cowling. I was ab le to find some that I think will work. It was tricky, cause they had to be black.....................oops..............I think I may have just gi ven something away. Darn!! Dan Helsper Poplar Grove, IL. ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 06:20:45 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: horiz stab capstrip question From: "bcolleran" Ok guys I made my gussets on my horizontal stab too big! yes there is such a thing. Now my capstrip placement is off. If I place the capstrip where it belongs as evenly placed I go right over my capstrip. I have attached a picture. I am thinking about just moving the capstrip placement 1" to it's planned placement. What are your thoughts? Little embarrassed I didn't lay it all out, but I guess that is what learning is for! Thanks, Bill N424BK Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=298128#298128 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_0502_166.jpg ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 06:26:54 PM PST US From: Tim Willis Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Was Washers, now "Dan's Secret Color" From: Tim Willis Sent: May 18, 2010 8:24 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Washers Black as the night, swooping in response to the iconic signal in the sky, "Holy Utility Belt, Batman, it's the BatPlane!" do not archive -----Original Message----- From: helspersew@aol.com Sent: May 18, 2010 8:16 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Washers Hi all, Thanks to everybody that gave me leads on washers for my cowling. I was able to find some that I think will work. It was tricky, cause they had to be black.....................oops..............I think I may have just given something away. Darn!! Dan Helsper Poplar Grove, IL. ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 06:44:51 PM PST US From: Dan Yocum Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: lost piet builder? Hi Larry, http://www.whitepages.com comes up with a couple suggestions: Lewis C Larson 415 Turkey Run Winter Park, FL No phone number given Laurits M Larsen 29248 David Ct Tavares, Fl (352) 343-2621 Cheers, Dan On 05/18/2010 06:20 PM, Lawrence Williams wrote: > I've lost track of a man that I visited a number of years ago in his > shop. As near as I remember it was about 2000-2002. > His name is Lou Larson and he lived in Tavares, FL. > > He had an "A" and was getting ready to cover when I visited him. Anyone > know Lou??? > > Larry W. > > > ' > > * > > > * -- Dan Yocum Fermilab 630.840.6509 yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things." ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 06:49:29 PM PST US From: "Douwe Blumberg" Subject: Pietenpol-List: prop for 0200 If anyone has real world experience with an 0200 in a Piet, I'd appreciate any prop suggestions. I know of two flying with Cessna 150 props, mostly because it was easier to get insurance using the prop the engine was certified for. And I know of one that flew a while ago using a 76X34. Thanks Douwe ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 07:50:20 PM PST US From: "gcardinal" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: horiz stab capstrip question Moving the capstrip 1 inch won't be a problem. Greg Cardinal ----- Original Message ----- From: "bcolleran" Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 8:20 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: horiz stab capstrip question > > Ok guys I made my gussets on my horizontal stab too big! yes there is > such a thing. Now my capstrip placement is off. If I place the capstrip > where it belongs as evenly placed I go right over my capstrip. I have > attached a picture. I am thinking about just moving the capstrip > placement 1" to it's planned placement. What are your thoughts? Little > embarrassed I didn't lay it all out, but I guess that is what learning is > for! > > Thanks, > > Bill > N424BK > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=298128#298128 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_0502_166.jpg > > > ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 07:59:49 PM PST US From: Ben Charvet Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: horiz stab capstrip question Thats one of those things that happen and nobody knows but you, except now you told us... Ben Charvet > > >> >> >> Ok guys I made my gussets on my horizontal stab too big! yes there >> is such a thing. Now my capstrip placement is off. If I place the >> capstrip where it belongs as evenly placed I go right over my >> capstrip. I have attached a picture. I am thinking about just >> moving the capstrip placement 1" to it's planned placement. What are >> your thoughts? Little embarrassed I didn't lay it all out, but I >> guess that is what learning is for! >> >> Thanks, >> >> Bill >> N424BK >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=298128#298128 >> >> >> >> >> Attachments: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_0502_166.jpg >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 08:24:42 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: horiz stab capstrip question From: Rick Holland Bill, don't tell anybody but one of the capstrips in my vertical fin is an inch below the capstrip in my rudder where they are supposed to be aligned. rick On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 8:59 PM, Ben Charvet wrote: > > Thats one of those things that happen and nobody knows but you, except now > you told us... > > Ben Charvet > > >> >>> > >>> >>> Ok guys I made my gussets on my horizontal stab too big! yes there is >>> such a thing. Now my capstrip placement is off. If I place the capstrip >>> where it belongs as evenly placed I go right over my capstrip. I have >>> attached a picture. I am thinking about just moving the capstrip placement >>> 1" to it's planned placement. What are your thoughts? Little embarrassed I >>> didn't lay it all out, but I guess that is what learning is for! >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Bill >>> N424BK >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Read this topic online here: >>> >>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=298128#298128 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Attachments: >>> >>> http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_0502_166.jpg >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > -- Rick Holland Castle Rock, Colorado "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad" ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 08:42:38 PM PST US From: Jim Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: horiz stab capstrip question Just move the capstrip/rib. Once covered it will never be seen and never cause a problem. Jim Jim Boyer Santa Rosa, CA Pietenpol on wheels Tail surfaces done Wing ribs done Corvair engine On May 18, 2010, bcolleran wrote: Ok guys I made my gussets on my horizontal stab too big! yes there is such a thing. Now my capstrip placement is off. If I place the capstrip where it belongs as evenly placed I go right over my capstrip. I have attached a picture. I am thinking about just moving the capstrip placement 1" to it's planned placement. What are your thoughts? Little embarrassed I didn't lay it all out, but I guess that is what learning is for! 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