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1. 03:37 AM - Re: plans (Jerry Dotson)
2. 04:43 AM - Re: plans (GliderMike)
3. 04:48 AM - Re: plans (Jack Phillips)
4. 04:54 AM - Re: plans (helspersew@aol.com)
5. 05:07 AM - Re: plans (Gary Boothe)
6. 05:59 AM - Re: plans (Michael Perez)
7. 06:18 AM - Re: plans (Jim Markle)
8. 06:53 AM - Re: plans (H RULE)
9. 07:24 AM - Re: plans (AMsafetyC@aol.com)
10. 07:29 AM - Re: test message 1 - ignore (Bill Church)
11. 07:48 AM - Re: plans (John Hofmann)
12. 07:54 AM - Re: horiz stab capstrip question (Bill Church)
13. 08:18 AM - EAA Ch. 60 Fly-In Pancake Breakfast (Ken Brooks)
14. 08:29 AM - Re: Re: test message 1 - ignore (gboothe5@comcast.net)
15. 08:53 AM - Re: plans (GliderMike)
16. 09:24 AM - Re: plans (chase143(at)aol.com)
17. 09:38 AM - Re: Re: horiz stab capstrip question (airlion)
18. 10:45 AM - Re: Re: plans (Jim Markle)
19. 11:37 AM - Re: plans (TOM STINEMETZE)
20. 11:52 AM - Re: Re: plans (brian.e.jardine@l-3com.com)
21. 01:06 PM - Re: Re: plans (H RULE)
22. 06:32 PM - Re: plans (Clif Dawson)
23. 09:57 PM - Re: horiz stab capstrip question (GliderMike)
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Welcome to the forum. You are in for a fun time. I am also building. My wing is
almost ready for varnish. Enjoy the build. You will have questions. They can
be answered here.
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Jerry Dotson
59 Daniel Johnson Rd
Baker, FL 32531
Started building NX510JD July, 2009
Ribs and tailfeathers done
using Lycoming O-235
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Thanks Jerry,
I'm excited to get started. This list is part of what pushed me over the edge
to get started. Lots of good information here.
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Long flights, smooth air, and soft landings,
GliderMike, aka Mike Glasgow
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Welcome to the wonderful world of Pietenpols and Pietenpol People. You'll
find this the most rewarding experience of your life.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Raleigh, NC
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of GliderMike
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 2:35 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: plans
I ordered plans today. Looked at John Recine's facebook build photo album
one too many times, and kept thinking about the airplane. Been lurking on
the list for several months now. If you haven't checked out John's build
album photos, you are missing looking at a work of art.
GliderMike, aka Mike Glasgow
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Hi Mike,
Welcome to the list. Now is the time to start planning your trip to Brodhe
ad '10. Where are you?
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
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-----Original Message-----
From: GliderMike <glidermikeg@yahoo.com>
Sent: Wed, May 19, 2010 1:34 pm
Subject: Pietenpol-List: plans
I ordered plans today. Looked at John Recine's facebook build photo album
one too many times, and kept thinking about the airplane. Been lurking
on the list for several months now. If you haven't checked out John's bu
ild album photos, you are missing looking at a work of art.
GliderMike, aka Mike Glasgow
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Mike,
If you haven't already, be sure to check out www.westcoastpiet.com.
Gary Boothe
Cool, CA
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
18 ribs done
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
helspersew@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 4:55 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: plans
Hi Mike,
Welcome to the list. Now is the time to start planning your trip to Brodhead
'10. Where are you?
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
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-----Original Message-----
From: GliderMike <glidermikeg@yahoo.com>
Sent: Wed, May 19, 2010 1:34 pm
Subject: Pietenpol-List: plans
I ordered plans today. Looked at John Recine's facebook build photo album
one too many times, and kept thinking about the airplane. Been lurking on
the list for several months now. If you haven't checked out John's build
album photos, you are missing looking at a work of art.
GliderMike, aka Mike Glasgow
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Welcome to the show Mike! You'll find building this plane a great experienc
e. I am building as well. Love it!
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www.karetakeraero.com
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Totally agree and I would add that you've come upon a most unique and special group
here.....
Stick with it and you're in for a real treat.
Jim in stormy Oklahoma...
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Perez
Sent: May 20, 2010 7:57 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: plans
Welcome to the show Mike! You'll find building this plane a great experience. I
am building as well. Love it!
www.karetakeraero.com
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Stay away from the tornadoes or I think you call them cyclones down there.
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ent: Thu, May 20, 2010 9:16:32 AM=0ASubject: Re: Pietenpol-List: plans=0A
com>=0A=0ATotally agree and I would add that you've come upon a most unique
and special group here.....=0A=0AStick with it and you're in for a real tr
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me to the show Mike! You'll find building this plane a great experience. I
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Well Mike, a great first step. Not wanting to be too overbearing, however
at the risk of being found out early on I will. Following your plans
delivery and the long and arduous task of contemplation, study and decision making
after pondering the question of " Now What?" and beginning the build
process you need to meet up with us in Brodhead. Some of us had made our
associations through this message board and later on got a chance to visit or
meet
in person through our business and related travels. The easy way is to
just come to Brodhead.
You'll get a chance to meet, greet, photograph to your hearts content and
with a collection of great and interesting folks, and well if you have to,
yes, you may even have to be exposed to Markle too! (a really great guy
and at the brunt of most of my cheap and low intellect humor) But a really
fantastic bunch of people all willing to help when you need them. For me its
like Christmas in July or Mecca for the Piet builders.
If you love aviation, airplanes, Pietenpols, meeting new friends and
telling big lies with an occasional adult beverage Brodhead is the place to be.
I attend in July and by August 1st I have plans in place for the next years
trip. You never know you may be able to hop a ride, it has been know to
happen and quite frequently. I would encourage everyone to attend, its just
too great to miss.
Never have truer words ever been spoken about Brodhead than: "You go the
first time for the airplanes and you keep going back for the people". The
first time it is all inspiring to see the great workmanship and to photograph
so many inspiring works of art in hand made airplane but to meet the
builders the personalities and even the builders of fame like televisions Michael
Cuy of DVD and restoration fame, Frank Pavliga Barnstormer extraordinaire
Doc Mosher indescribable leader and Dan Helsper keeper of the Bernard
Pietenpol lost papers not to mention the inimitable John Hofmann. I could go on
but you'll have to come and experience it for yourself, Brodhead is not a
place its an adventure that only comes around once a year and well worth
the price of admission.
I hope to see you there, before you arrive I suggest you get familiar with
The Great Waldo Pepper as you may run into to him or his likeness several
times during the weekend share a laugh and an reply if you are able to
muster one in time or in passing.
John
In a message dated 5/20/2010 1:08:51 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
glidermikeg@yahoo.com writes:
I ordered plans today. Looked at John Recine's facebook build photo album
one too many times, and kept thinking about the airplane. Been lurking on
the list for several months now. If you haven't checked out John's build
album photos, you are missing looking at a work of art.
GliderMike, aka Mike Glasgow
do not archive
(http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List)
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| Subject: | Re: test message 1 - ignore |
Same here...
In fact, I didn't get Gary's note either.
Bill C.
Quite a bit North of CA, and even cooler.
Pietenpol
C-75 Continental (no conversion required)
Tail done, Fuselage getting framed up
But... ALL of my ribs are done.
DO NOT ARCHIVE
Gary wrote:
..doesn't work...neither did the last one...
Gary Boothe
Cool, CA
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
18 ribs done
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=298297#298297
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"I have a stupendous character! The world agrees on that"
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John Hofmann
Vice-President, Information Technology
The Rees Group, Inc.
2424 American Lane
Madison, WI 53704
Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150
Fax: 608.443.2474
Email: jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com
On May 20, 2010, at 9:24 AM, AMsafetyC@aol.com wrote:
> Well Mike, a great first step. Not wanting to be too overbearing,
however at the risk of being found out early on I will. Following your
plans delivery and the long and arduous task of contemplation, study and
decision making after pondering the question of " Now What?" and
beginning the build process you need to meet up with us in Brodhead.
Some of us had made our associations through this message board and
later on got a chance to visit or meet in person through our business
and related travels. The easy way is to just come to Brodhead.
>
> You'll get a chance to meet, greet, photograph to your hearts content
and with a collection of great and interesting folks, and well if you
have to, yes, you may even have to be exposed to Markle too! (a really
great guy and at the brunt of most of my cheap and low intellect humor)
But a really fantastic bunch of people all willing to help when you need
them. For me its like Christmas in July or Mecca for the Piet builders.
>
> If you love aviation, airplanes, Pietenpols, meeting new friends and
telling big lies with an occasional adult beverage Brodhead is the place
to be. I attend in July and by August 1st I have plans in place for the
next years trip. You never know you may be able to hop a ride, it has
been know to happen and quite frequently. I would encourage everyone to
attend, its just too great to miss.
>
> Never have truer words ever been spoken about Brodhead than: "You go
the first time for the airplanes and you keep going back for the
people". The first time it is all inspiring to see the great workmanship
and to photograph so many inspiring works of art in hand made airplane
but to meet the builders the personalities and even the builders of fame
like televisions Michael Cuy of DVD and restoration fame, Frank Pavliga
Barnstormer extraordinaire Doc Mosher indescribable leader and Dan
Helsper keeper of the Bernard Pietenpol lost papers not to mention the
inimitable John Hofmann. I could go on but you'll have to come and
experience it for yourself, Brodhead is not a place its an adventure
that only comes around once a year and well worth the price of
admission.
>
> I hope to see you there, before you arrive I suggest you get familiar
with The Great Waldo Pepper as you may run into to him or his likeness
several times during the weekend share a laugh and an reply if you are
able to muster one in time or in passing.
>
> John
>
> In a message dated 5/20/2010 1:08:51 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
glidermikeg@yahoo.com writes:
> I ordered plans today. Looked at John Recine's facebook build photo
album one too many times, and kept thinking about the airplane. Been
lurking on the list for several months now. If you haven't checked out
John's build album photos, you are missing looking at a work of art.
> GliderMike, aka Mike Glasgow
>
> do not archive
>
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| Subject: | Re: horiz stab capstrip question |
Bill,
Just a tip for future reference, as you progress with your project.
The plans don't really provide many dimensions for gussets, but it may be helpful
to know that the "extra" gusset material really doesn't do anything for you,
other than add weight. When determining the size of a gusset like the one pictured,
there's no need to go past the edges of the pieces being joined. See the
red lines in the attached picture for reference.
But, like others have said, in this case, just shift your capstrip over to the
edge of your gusset. If you're very careful, you COULD trim away the excess gusset,
but there's a very real risk of cutting into the Spruce sticks, and THAT
would be a bad idea.
Bill C. (not you... a Different Bill C.)
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=298299#298299
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| Subject: | EAA Ch. 60 Fly-In Pancake Breakfast |
If you're in the neighborhood of the Illinois-Wisconsin state line
this Saturday, May 22nd, stop in for EAA Ch. 60's annual Spring Fling
Pancake Breakfast, Fly-In and Auto Show, located at the Beloit, WI
Airport (44C). We'll serve breakfast from 7 -11 and the weather
forecast is great... sunny and a low of 60 in the morning and high of
78! To check the latest conditions, go to
http://web.me.com/chapter60/eaa/Fly-In_Weather.html
PIC of fly-in aircraft eat free, of course!
Otherwise, Adults $6.00
Kids 5 - 11 $4.00
4 and under eat free!
Do Not Archive
Ken Brooks, Ch. 60 Secretary
Slowest RV-8 Quickbuild in the Country (1997)
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| Subject: | Re: test message 1 - ignore |
Bragger...
------Original Message------
From: Bill Church
Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
ReplyTo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: test message 1 - ignore
Sent: May 20, 2010 7:28 AM
Same here...
In fact, I didn't get Gary's note either.
Bill C.
Quite a bit North of CA, and even cooler.
Pietenpol
C-75 Continental (no conversion required)
Tail done, Fuselage getting framed up
But... ALL of my ribs are done.
DO NOT ARCHIVE
Gary wrote:
...doesn't work...neither did the last one...
Gary Boothe
Cool, CA
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
18 ribs done
Do not archive
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=298297#298297
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Thanks to everyone. I would definitely like to come to Brodhead, but I'm not sure
my finances can stand it this year. I have been doing A&P school for the
last year and a half, and my wife is getting a little anxious about supporting
us both now I'm out of school. I do have a Hajjimobile to make the Hajj to various
Mecca locations, so I'm not ruling it out this year, yet. I also fly ultralight
gliders at The Point of the Mountain in Utah, which is known worldwide
as a Mecca for hang glider and paraglider pilots, which is why the Hajjimobile
has its name. I've been lurking the list for several months now, and have
figured out that being Markle-esque is sometimes necessary when you are associated
with Pitenpol folks. [Laughing] [Rolling Eyes]
--------
Long flights, smooth air, and soft landings,
GliderMike, aka Mike Glasgow
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Mike,
Welcome aboard, you are in for a great journey building a Piet. Brodhead is a
good time and a great first hand education. If you can swing it; one trip there
and you will say "I can't afford not to go"!
Enjoy the building!
Steve
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Steve
www.mypiet.com
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| Subject: | Re: horiz stab capstrip question |
----- Original Message ----
From: Bill Church <billspiet@sympatico.ca>
Sent: Thu, May 20, 2010 10:53:54 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: horiz stab capstrip question
Bill,
Just a tip for future reference, as you progress with your project.
The plans don't really provide many dimensions for gussets, but it may be helpful
to know that the "extra" gusset material really doesn't do anything for you,
other than add weight. When determining the size of a gusset like the one pictured,
there's no need to go past the edges of the pieces being joined. See the
red lines in the attached picture for reference.
But, like others have said, in this case, just shift your capstrip over to the
edge of your gusset. If you're very careful, you COULD trim away the excess gusset,
but there's a very real risk of cutting into the Spruce sticks, and THAT
would be a bad idea.
Bill C. (not you... a Different Bill C.)
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=298299#298299
Attachments:
http://forums.matronics.com//files/gusset_size_195.jpg
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You and I have a LOT in common! I love gliders/sailplanes and you have obviously
done a lot of soaring in hang gliders. There is at least one paraglider on
this list that just might be soaring the north shore (Hiwaii) as I type this....
There are several Pietenpols/Projects in the SLC area. Very nice people you'll
want to get together with.
Something we DON'T have in common is your piano playing...but that IS something
I would definitely like to hear more about! :-)
jm
-----Original Message-----
>From: GliderMike <glidermikeg@yahoo.com>
>Sent: May 20, 2010 10:52 AM
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: plans
>
>
>Thanks to everyone. I would definitely like to come to Brodhead, but I'm not
sure my finances can stand it this year. I have been doing A&P school for the
last year and a half, and my wife is getting a little anxious about supporting
us both now I'm out of school. I do have a Hajjimobile to make the Hajj to
various Mecca locations, so I'm not ruling it out this year, yet. I also fly
ultralight gliders at The Point of the Mountain in Utah, which is known worldwide
as a Mecca for hang glider and paraglider pilots, which is why the Hajjimobile
has its name. I've been lurking the list for several months now, and have
figured out that being Markle-esque is sometimes necessary when you are associated
with Pitenpol folks. [Laughing] [Rolling Eyes]
>
>--------
>Long flights, smooth air, and soft landings,
>GliderMike, aka Mike Glasgow
>
>
>Read this topic online here:
>
>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=298326#298326
>
>
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Mike:
Welcome to the list. You will want to know that NOTHING you see on
this list is bad information - - sometimes just slightly warped.
By the way, let me encourage you to join the ranks of the Crank
Snappin' Corvair Society (CS) and don't go haring off after one of
those ancient A or B relics or, even worse, some unimaginative engine
made for aircraft. You need something with Pizzaz and Mo Power!
"Corvair" rules the Pietenpol skies and nothing can touch us - - nothing
I tell you!
(Sorry Honey I forgot to take my medication this morning. I'll be
good.)
Stinemetze
N328X (one of these days)
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You need to start saving milk jugs,that's very important.=0Ado not archive
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ome to the list.- You will want to know that NOTHING you-see on this li
st is bad information - - sometimes just slightly warped.- =0A-=0ABy th
e way, let me encourage you to join the ranks of the Crank Snappin' Corvair
Society (CS)=B2 and don't go haring off after one of those ancient A or B
relics or, even worse, some unimaginative engine made for aircraft.- You
need something with Pizzaz and Mo Power!- "Corvair" rules the Pietenpol s
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That's why they all live in trailers and motorhomes Harv.
Clif
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From: H RULE
Stay away from the tornadoes or I think you call them cyclones down
there.
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From: Jim Markle <jim_markle@mindspring.com>
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Totally agree and I would add that you've come upon a most unique and
special group here.....
Stick with it and you're in for a real treat.
Jim in stormy Oklahoma...
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| Subject: | Re: horiz stab capstrip question |
Wouldn't it be better to go slightly wider than the red square, along the line
of edge distance with rivets? When I did Airframe stuff in school, my class got
screwed out of the stick and rag stuff, so I don't know. Our instructor had
a composites project he thought was more important, so we got zip on stick and
rag. I think I was the only one in the class that had any interest in stick
and rag. I'll get plenty building my Piet. I would agree Bill added extra weight
that doesn't get him anything but a couple of pounds of extra weight if
he did that on the whole airframe. :D
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Long flights, smooth air, and soft landings,
GliderMike, aka Mike Glasgow
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