---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 05/22/10: 27 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:28 AM - Re: Mike's Cuy's DVD (bubbleboy) 2. 04:34 AM - A question about the fuselage cross pieces (helspersew@aol.com) 3. 04:36 AM - Re: A question about fuselage cross-pieces (helspersew@aol.com) 4. 06:05 AM - Re: A question about fuselage cross-pieces (Gary Boothe) 5. 06:54 AM - Re: A question about fuselage cross-pieces (John Recine) 6. 07:05 AM - Cabane struts (echobravo4) 7. 07:12 AM - Re: overbuilding a Pietenpol--some options (echobravo4) 8. 07:12 AM - Re: A question about fuselage cross-pieces (Jeff Boatright) 9. 07:33 AM - Re: overbuilding a Pietenpol--some options (GliderMike) 10. 07:51 AM - Re: Re: Mike's Cuy's DVD (Michael Perez) 11. 08:23 AM - Re: Re: Mike's Cuy's DVD (Ryan Mueller) 12. 09:34 AM - Re: Re: Mike's Cuy's DVD (Michael Perez) 13. 10:12 AM - FW: American Airways ad, from 1938 (video) (Gary Boothe) 14. 10:55 AM - Re: FW: American Airways ad, from 1938 (video) (Michael Perez) 15. 11:25 AM - Re: Cabane struts (Jack Phillips) 16. 11:51 AM - Re: Cabane struts (Michael Perez) 17. 12:07 PM - Re: Cabane struts (Rick Holland) 18. 12:07 PM - Re: A question about fuselage cross-pieces (Bill Church) 19. 12:09 PM - Re: Cabane struts (Jack Phillips) 20. 12:15 PM - Re: Re: A question about fuselage cross-pieces (Jack Phillips) 21. 12:16 PM - Re: Flap over Flaperons (Bill Church) 22. 02:15 PM - Re: American Airways ad, from 1938 (video) (Jerry Dotson) 23. 03:09 PM - Re: Re: American Airways ad, from 1938 (video) (Gary Boothe) 24. 03:18 PM - Re: Cabane struts (echobravo4) 25. 03:34 PM - Re: Mike's Cuy's DVD (bubbleboy) 26. 04:21 PM - remove from list (Marshall Lumsden) 27. 10:39 PM - Re: Ailerflappers (BYD) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:28:26 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Mike's Cuy's DVD From: "bubbleboy" Hi Mike...thanks mate! I thought it was the video's that used the PAL and NTSC system? Over here our DVD players go on a zone system. Ours plays all zones. Does anyone else on here from OZ been able to play them? Bugger as I really want to have a look. Scotty :? -------- Scotty Tamworth, Australia Building a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camper www.scottyspietenpol.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=298494#298494 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:34:05 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: A question about the fuselage cross pieces From: helspersew@aol.com Bill, Actually I have a good reason to recommend that these pieces be put in fla t-waze. On the underside of the fuze, I used these pieces for the perimete r of my giant access panel, to get at the cables, bellcranks, etc. I insta lled "T" nuts in those pieces to secure my screws. Dan Helsper Poplar Grove, IL. ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:36:51 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: A question about fuselage cross-pieces From: helspersew@aol.com Bill, After reading your post question, I went into the vault, and retrieved the special "pickle" canister that the B.H. Pietenpol "lost" papers are kept. This is similar to the set-up that they have in the National Archives, fo r the safe-keeping of the U.S. Constitution, where they have it under spec ial green glass, and bathed in xenon (or is it argon ?) gas. Anyway, as I realized that this was a very important question to be resolved, (these can only be removed once per year) I slowly discharged the gas, and care fully removed these much-treasured, tattered-edged papers. After careful examination, it is very clear that these fuselage cross pieces should be glued-in flat-wise. As I discovered this, I exhaled a huge, involuntary sigh of relief, because this was the way I did mine. As official custodian, I then re-packed and re-charged the "pickle" contai ner, not to be opened till at least next year. Dan Helsper Poplar Grove, IL. -----Original Message----- From: Bill Church Sent: Fri, May 21, 2010 5:17 pm Subject: Pietenpol-List: A question about fuselage cross-pieces a> Just recently joined the sides of my fuselage together, and was asked how I ecided which way to orient the 1/2" x 1" cross-pieces and diagonals on the top nd bottom of the fuselage. i.e. when viewed from above, are the cross-piec es /2" wide or 1" wide? don't think it really makes any significant difference, and the plans don 't eally say which way they go. I went with the 1" dimension when viewed from bove. My decision was based on the highly scientific method wherein one lo oks t the plans, and decides that the cross-pieces appear to be drawn about th e ame width as the longerons (which we know are 1" x 1"). Anyway, I was just curious as to what the consensus is out there in Piet-b uilder and (if there is a consensus). So the question is: Which way did you orien t our top and bottom fuselage cross pieces? Bill C. ead this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=298469#298469 ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/tail_end_430.jpg -======================== ======================== =========== -= - The Pietenpol-List Email Forum - -= Use the Matronics List Features Navigator to browse -= the many List utilities such as List Un/Subscription, -= Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, -= Photoshare, and much much more: - -= --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List - -======================== ======================== =========== -= - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - -= Same great content also available via the Web Forums! - -= --> http://forums.matronics.com - -======================== ======================== =========== -= - List Contribution Web Site - -= Thank you for your generous support! -= -Matt Dralle, List Admin. -= --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution -======================== ======================== =========== ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:05:17 AM PST US From: "Gary Boothe" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: A question about fuselage cross-pieces Dan, Rumor has it, that, secretly coded within those papers, is a map, leading to BHP's personal stash of ping-pong balls and milk jugs.. Gary Boothe Cool, CA Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion Tail done, Fuselage on gear 18 ribs done Do not archive From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of helspersew@aol.com Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2010 4:25 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: A question about fuselage cross-pieces Bill, After reading your post question, I went into the vault, and retrieved the special "pickle" canister that the B.H. Pietenpol "lost" papers are kept. This is similar to the set-up that they have in the National Archives, for the safe-keeping of the U.S. Constitution, where they have it under special green glass, and bathed in xenon (or is it argon ?) gas. Anyway, as I realized that this was a very important question to be resolved, (these can only be removed once per year) I slowly discharged the gas, and carefully removed these much-treasured, tattered-edged papers. After careful examination, it is very clear that these fuselage cross pieces should be glued-in flat-wise. As I discovered this, I exhaled a huge, involuntary sigh of relief, because this was the way I did mine. As official custodian, I then re-packed and re-charged the "pickle" container, not to be opened till at least next year. Dan Helsper Poplar Grove, IL. -----Original Message----- From: Bill Church Sent: Fri, May 21, 2010 5:17 pm Subject: Pietenpol-List: A question about fuselage cross-pieces Just recently joined the sides of my fuselage together, and was asked how I decided which way to orient the 1/2" x 1" cross-pieces and diagonals on the top and bottom of the fuselage. i.e. when viewed from above, are the cross-pieces 1/2" wide or 1" wide? I don't think it really makes any significant difference, and the plans don't really say which way they go. I went with the 1" dimension when viewed from above. My decision was based on the highly scientific method wherein one looks at the plans, and decides that the cross-pieces appear to be drawn about the same width as the longerons (which we know are 1" x 1"). Anyway, I was just curious as to what the consensus is out there in Piet-builder land (if there is a consensus). So the question is: Which way did you orient your top and bottom fuselage cross pieces? Bill C. 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_____________________________________ Time: 07:05:33 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Cabane struts From: "echobravo4" i'm still in the rib building stage, but was wondering, for those of you that have made 36" (or wider) center sections- do the cabane struts remain upright or do they angle out at the top? -------- I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I intended to be. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=298503#298503 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:12:06 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: overbuilding a Pietenpol--some options From: "echobravo4" I've heard mention of a longer wing has that been done/successful? (been searching the archives) -------- I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I intended to be. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=298505#298505 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 07:12:41 AM PST US From: Jeff Boatright Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: A question about fuselage cross-pieces And cow-bells! Need more cow-bells! Do not archive >Dan, > >Rumor has it, that, secretly coded within those >papers, is a map, leading to BHP's personal >stash of ping-pong balls and milk jugs. > >Gary Boothe >Cool, CA >Pietenpol >WW Corvair Conversion >Tail done, Fuselage on gear >18 ribs done >Do not archive -- --- Jeffrey H. Boatright, Ph.D. Associate Professor of Ophthalmology Emory University School of Medicine Editor-in-Chief Molecular Vision ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 07:33:04 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: overbuilding a Pietenpol--some options From: "GliderMike" The check is in the mailbox, with a Twilight Zone commemorative stamp on it, and the red flag is up for the mailman to pick it up :D do not archive -------- Long flights, smooth air, and soft landings, GliderMike, aka Mike Glasgow Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=298508#298508 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 07:51:18 AM PST US From: Michael Perez Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Mike's Cuy's DVD I may be wrong, but I believe that NTSC and PAL are more in line with resol ution and format, where as the region code dictates what plays with what pl ayer.- From working with my HINT DVDs, my option for best quality while p roducing the DVDs is NTSC. All the other formats seem to be a lower quality or for PC playback only. (NOT knocking Mike Cuy's video at all...I have hi s video and recommend it to everyone...even if they fly something other the n a Pietenpol.) Last I head here in the U.S., our players were all region 1 . However, I have never been asked what region I want my DVDs to burn at, n or have I seen any region stuff on the home DVD players I have. Maybe all m odern home players are universal now and the region stuff is out the window ? If so, then our videos should play in any system. - ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 08:23:45 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Mike's Cuy's DVD From: Ryan Mueller Insofar as the NTSC/PAL thing goes, I want to say that most modern DVD players will actually play either one just fine, converting the image as needed for the output specified in the settings on the player. Region codes are not out the window....they are yet another pointless ploy for the film/tv industry to attempt to control distribution of optical media. However for the videos that you guys (i.e. Mike and Michael) are producing, odds are your authoring and burning software is not assigning region codes to the DVDs. Thusly they should play in any DVD player anywhere in the world. You won't ever see anything about region codes on your DVD player unless you happen to attempt to play, for example, a DVD that was commercially manufactured outside the US or Canada. In order to watch it you would have to switch the region code on your player. You are usually allowed to do this 5 times and then the player locks itself on the 5th and final choice, whatever it may be. If you 5th switch was to a region outside the US/Canada, well, you've pretty much bricked your player when it comes to playing any domestic DVDs. Same thing with computer DVD drives. Ryan do not archive On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 9:51 AM, Michael Perez wrote: > I may be wrong, but I believe that NTSC and PAL are more in line with > resolution and format, where as the region code dictates what plays with > what player. From working with my HINT DVDs, my option for best quality > while producing the DVDs is NTSC. All the other formats seem to be a lower > quality or for PC playback only. (NOT knocking Mike Cuy's video at all...I > have his video and recommend it to everyone...even if they fly something > other then a Pietenpol.) Last I head here in the U.S., our players were all > region 1. However, I have never been asked what region I want my DVDs to > burn at, nor have I seen any region stuff on the home DVD players I have. > Maybe all modern home players are universal now and the region stuff is out > the window? If so, then our videos should play in any system. > > > * > > * > > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 09:34:57 AM PST US From: Michael Perez Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Mike's Cuy's DVD Great intell. Ryan, thank you. ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 10:12:20 AM PST US From: "Gary Boothe" Subject: Pietenpol-List: FW: American Airways ad, from 1938 (video) (sigh..) made just one year after the date on my plans. That makes it Pietenpol related.right? Gary Boothe Cool, CA Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion Tail done, Fuselage on gear 18 ribs done From: Randy Farmer [mailto:r.l.farmer@comcast.net] Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2010 9:40 AM Subject: American Airways ad, from 1938 (video) This film is 21 minutes long so watch when you have time. The aviation buffs will like it. I really thought it was worth watching. What is the aircraft type? : The good old days when people dressed up to travel. http://marcbrecy.neuf.fr/aa.html ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 10:55:49 AM PST US From: Michael Perez Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: FW: American Airways ad, from 1938 (video) "The good old- days when people dressed up to travel." - Back then people dressed nice just to go outside. They cared about how they looked, smelled, talked, the treatment of others, were kind, considerate, spoke intelligently... OK, I'm done. ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 11:25:35 AM PST US From: "Jack Phillips" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Cabane struts My centersection is 36" wide and my cabanes atr vertical. The fittings at the top must be modified to allow the struts to be inset 3". Jack Phillips NX899JP Raleigh, NC -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of echobravo4 Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2010 10:05 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Cabane struts i'm still in the rib building stage, but was wondering, for those of you that have made 36" (or wider) center sections- do the cabane struts remain upright or do they angle out at the top? -------- I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I intended to be. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=298503#298503 ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 11:51:35 AM PST US From: Michael Perez Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Cabane struts Did you say modified Jack?!- I'm interested...please explain this mod...p ictures? I don't have the 36" C.S., but am curious as to what you did. Than ks. --- On Sat, 5/22/10, Jack Phillips wrote: From: Jack Phillips Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Cabane struts et> My centersection is 36" wide and my cabanes atr vertical.- The fittings a t the top must be modified to allow the struts to be inset 3". Jack Phillips NX899JP Raleigh, NC -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of echobravo4 Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2010 10:05 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Cabane struts i'm still in the rib building stage, but was wondering, for those of you that have made 36" (or wider) center sections- do the cabane struts remain upright or do they angle out at the top? -------- I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I intended to be. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=298503#298503 le, List Admin. ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 12:07:14 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Cabane struts From: Rick Holland The cabanes and the top and bottom fittings are unchanged. The spars just stick out a couple more inches on each side, and of course the wing connect fittings move with them. However since the three piece wing plans show the top of the wing connect fittings attaching at the top of the aileron pulley fitting a change has to be made here. I just connected the top of the wing connect fittings to the top of the cabane fitting (see attached), but they don't have to connect at all. rick On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 8:05 AM, echobravo4 wrote: > > i'm still in the rib building stage, but was wondering, for those of you > that have > made 36" (or wider) center sections- do the cabane struts remain upright or > do they angle out at the top? > > -------- > I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up > where I intended to be. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=298503#298503 > > -- Rick Holland Castle Rock, Colorado "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad" ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 12:07:14 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: A question about fuselage cross-pieces From: "Bill Church" Phew! Thanks for going to the BHP Pickle jar to sort this out, Dan. I've seen photos showing both ways, and had concluded that some builders were just plain wrong. And with your revelation, I now rest assured that I chose the right way, and it's the OTHER planes that will be falling out of the sky, not mine. What a relief! BC do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=298525#298525 ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 12:09:33 PM PST US From: "Jack Phillips" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Cabane struts Here's a picture that shows the modification. The cabane strut fittings attach to the spar fittings further inboard than the plans show. Jack Phillips NX899JP Raleigh, NC _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael Perez Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2010 2:51 PM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Cabane struts Did you say modified Jack?! I'm interested...please explain this mod...pictures? I don't have the 36" C.S., but am curious as to what you did. Thanks. --- On Sat, 5/22/10, Jack Phillips wrote: From: Jack Phillips Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Cabane struts > My centersection is 36" wide and my cabanes atr vertical. The fittings at the top must be modified to allow the struts to be inset 3". Jack Phillips NX899JP Raleigh, NC -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com ] On Behalf Of echobravo4 Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2010 10:05 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Cabane struts > i'm still in the rib building stage, but was wondering, for those of you that have made 36" (or wider) center sections- do the cabane struts remain upright or do they angle out at the top? -------- I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I intended to be. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=298503#29850 "http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List" target=_blank>httpef="http://forums.matronics.com/" ; -Matt Dralle, List Admin========= ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 12:15:14 PM PST US From: "Jack Phillips" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: A question about fuselage cross-pieces If you really want to have it covered, make them 1" square. -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Church Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2010 3:07 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: A question about fuselage cross-pieces Phew! Thanks for going to the BHP Pickle jar to sort this out, Dan. I've seen photos showing both ways, and had concluded that some builders were just plain wrong. And with your revelation, I now rest assured that I chose the right way, and it's the OTHER planes that will be falling out of the sky, not mine. What a relief! BC do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=298525#298525 ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 12:16:12 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Flap over Flaperons From: "Bill Church" Now, Kip... That's not really the Canadian National Motto. But I don't think I'll get excited about your mistake. BC Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=298528#298528 ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 02:15:11 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: American Airways ad, from 1938 (video) From: "Jerry Dotson" My treasure trove of little know aeroplanes turned up this picture and a web site that enlightened me. It is worth a look. http://www.dieselpunks.org/profiles/blogs/curtiss-t32-condor-ii Good video Gary. -------- Jerry Dotson 59 Daniel Johnson Rd Baker, FL 32531 Started building NX510JD July, 2009 Ribs and tailfeathers done using Lycoming O-235 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=298538#298538 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/curtiss_t_32_condor_ii_118.jpg ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 03:09:45 PM PST US From: "Gary Boothe" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: American Airways ad, from 1938 (video) Thanks, Jerry!! Gary Boothe Cool, CA Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion Tail done, Fuselage on gear 18 ribs done Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Dotson Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2010 2:15 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: American Airways ad, from 1938 (video) My treasure trove of little know aeroplanes turned up this picture and a web site that enlightened me. It is worth a look. http://www.dieselpunks.org/profiles/blogs/curtiss-t32-condor-ii Good video Gary. -------- Jerry Dotson 59 Daniel Johnson Rd Baker, FL 32531 Started building NX510JD July, 2009 Ribs and tailfeathers done using Lycoming O-235 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=298538#298538 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/curtiss_t_32_condor_ii_118.jpg ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 03:18:31 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Cabane struts From: "echobravo4" got it! thanks for the help guys! Earl -------- I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I intended to be. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=298541#298541 ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 03:34:27 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Mike's Cuy's DVD From: "bubbleboy" Thanks guys...it was kind of what I was getting at. Now Mike Cuy...if you read this do you take Paypal by any chance? Im in Australia and a draft is another $25 so its much easier if I add a few dollars more and pay you via Paypal if you can do that? Scotty -------- Scotty Tamworth, Australia Building a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camper www.scottyspietenpol.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=298542#298542 ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 04:21:14 PM PST US From: Marshall Lumsden Subject: Pietenpol-List: remove from list Hi: I would like to remove my name from the pietenpol list. Many thanks. Marshall Lumsden ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 10:39:36 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Ailerflappers From: "BYD" Don Emch wrote: > At the end of this video there is a good example of why there are no "slow down" devices needed. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeAw3-4HK_U > > Don Emch > NX899DE If you're interested I added to this video I made years ago - it can be found at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kG4ZH25ZFho Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=298559#298559 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message pietenpol-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pietenpol-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/pietenpol-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.